lira70
1. I don't know this model AG, but look at the power.
Check whether there are 3 convention speeds or, more simply, blowing speeds: low, medium and high. They are important. I bought it for my mother only at a high speed - not very convenient. Don't bake.
I have a hotter elite - the capacity of 1000 seems to be.

When we rented an apartment there was unimportant wiring and a gas stove. My electricity was cut off when it was immediately turned on: Ag, a multicooker, a pressure cooker and a microwave oven, a washing machine, 2 computers and 2 TV sets.
Microwave and Ar, when turned on, immediately take a lot, then it seems to settle down.
Ag was on my stove (the kitchen was 5.5). I put a plate on the back burners and put Ag there, as I cooked a lot in it.
balerian1
Quote: Alena_wolf

Ay, friends, help with advice, pliz! A friend persuades me to buy a Brand 35129 airfryer. I liked the model, the functions are "like big ones", the price is wonderful. The question is this - the kitchen is 5.5 sq. m., gas stove, five-story house, respectively, the wiring is not designed for a large number of equipment. The power consumption of these units is such that, I'm afraid it will be impossible to use anything else during cooking.
What do you advise? Thankful in advance

with such dimensions of the kitchen, it is better to take the AG with a removable lid ..... according to the law of old man Ohm .... the current will be about 6 amperes ..... will the plugs survive?
lira70
Alena_wolf
climbed looked, but he has three speeds. Power 1300. My power is from 600 to 1300. So it depends on the temperature.

balerian1
if the kitchen is small .. the removable lid, in my opinion, is not very good - after removing the hot lid it is necessary to urgently find where to put it ... but it is not small .. and very hot. and God forbid the child touches .. there will be a cry .. I burned myself, even though on my bracket, but slightly touched my wrist)) But this is my personal opinion, because my mother also bought it with a removable cover.
balerian1
balerian1
if the kitchen is small .. the removable lid, in my opinion, is not very good - after removing the hot lid it is necessary to urgently find where to put it ... but it is not small .. and very hot. and God forbid the child touches .. there will be a cry .. I burned myself, even though on my bracket, but slightly touched my wrist)) But this is my personal opinion, because my mother also bought it with a removable cover.

you can put the lid on the stove ... when opening the lid in Brand 35129, you need to provide a place above the AG ... and this, taking into account the magnifying ring - about 1 meter
Alena_wolf
lira70, balerian1, guys, thanks! The traffic jams would withstand, the wiring would not have died. When we drove in here, the plugs were knocked out from the electric kettle - we had to change, and the wiring burned a couple of times. Now, however, it can withstand both the washing machine and the air conditioner. Will another device hold up? This is the question.
The issue with the lid is not important, there is room for a hinged one.
Therefore, in addition to purely technical issues, I am interested in whether this unit is needed at all? My stove is heaped up, there is a grill and a spit in the oven, and it bakes great. C / n is, yogurt ice cream maker too.
How much does it make life easier (if it makes it easier) and what can he do that cannot be done in a good oven?
Three times mom
Quote: Alena_wolf

Ay, friends, help with advice, pliz! A friend persuades me to buy a Brand 35129 airfryer. I liked the model, the functions are "like big ones", the price is wonderful. The question is this - the kitchen is 5.5 sq. m., gas stove, five-story house, respectively, the wiring is not designed for a large number of equipment. The power consumption of these units is such that, I'm afraid it will be impossible to use anything else during cooking.
What do you advise? Thankful in advance
We have the same kitchen, the same house, they took just this model of the AG, put it directly on the microwave, I am very pleased that I took it with a hinged lid, there would be nowhere to lie to my liking. And I still doubted! The tables are always filled with everything you can. When the AG was turned on, the MV was turned on, but after 20 seconds the mains filter cut out (we have all the sockets in it, including the refrigerator, blender, MV, etc.). Cooking usually does not take much time, and when it was urgently necessary to heat something up, I stupidly turned off the AG for 30 seconds. Now, I don't remember, in my opinion the washer was working on the included AG, it is necessary to check. Power in AG 1300W. It does not cut the plugs, they are 16 amperes, quite sensitive, no inconvenience. Here, my husband says, our washing machine is taken out separately. Do not worry, for example, an iron, an electric kettle of 2 kW, if not more, you do not think about using them or not. The model is excellent in terms of price-quality ratio. Recommend.
lira70
balerian1
want to say that it is bigger than a hotter .. I have it for 14 liters .. there is not a meter for sure. Although for the sake of interest, tomorrow I will measure. Now I keep it in a closet - my apartment and kitchen 9 sq. m.

Alena_wolf
about a rented apartment - the house was 30 years old. The wiring withstood. Now we have a house
with email stoves - and a separate outlet for such equipment - knocks out the mains filter)) when the PMM and the induction cooker or pressure cooker work together, plus a thermopot)))) So, you can knock out the e-mail anywhere.
but if the stove is good and there is a grill, perhaps Ag is not needed.
I have Ag for almost 4 years, now I only use it for meat, bake rolls, muffins, etc. (well, meat is also often) in a mini-oven, until I bought an oven. I personally didn’t bake at Ag. I still achieved it later - it worked, but the mini-oven is better. In your version, I wouldn't buy it. But this is again my personal opinion.
Alena_wolf
lira70! Hurrah! It also seems to me that it is superfluous for me. But my friend is an iron woman, if she decided that I need to buy something, she will endure the brain. And it will be easier to buy
lira70
Alena_wolf
I am the same stubborn and boring, I understand you .. we, such, are hard to endure)), and if I have something in mind, then oyyyy. But over time she began to think through everything.
You ask her for a while for her Ag, they say, check .. and then decide.
balerian1
lira70 just measure from the tabletop on which the AG stands + open the stand and install the expansion ring ... to the highest point with the lid folded down + place for a hand
lira70
balerian1

well, though I have used the ring for 3.5 years only recently - a big chicken caught)))
Alena_wolf
lira70, balerian1, but for a family of 2 people such a large AG is generally needed? Although, in my opinion, if the capacity is less, not all the bells and whistles are there (there are no speeds)
balerian1
Quote: Alena_wolf

lira70, balerian1, but for a family of 2 people such a large AG is generally needed? Although, in my opinion, if the capacity is less, not all the bells and whistles are there (there are no speeds)
we have enough for 2 people for the eyes of a seven-liter ... with an expansion ring of 11 liters ... we have this:
Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)

his wife calls him an alien
lira70
it's not about the number of people .. the guests come .. you want to make barbecues .. and that you will lay down for 40 minutes 3-4 times .. you will be tired of waiting. And so at least 2 bars. Or a chicken, immediately laid out on 2 grates and forgot for 40-60 minutes.
see my photos https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/s-image/556/mail/lir-1as/435/553.html

Well, yes .. if you put the ring, then the size will increase .. then maybe ...
Three times mom
And I’ll add my five kopecks to AG, we have only a week or two, thought over and studied the issue, I read here, and what pictures! The model, in my opinion, is excellent, only so far it is not very good for me with AG
So far I tried casserole (only it turned out as expected), pizza (the bottom is very white), muffins (not bad), capelin (completely stuck to the mold, not so tasty), vegetables (burnt ends), chickens. legs and wings (more or less).
Pros: cooks faster than in the oven; with my disgusting oven, the opportunity to try to cook something new (if possible); in the kitchen there is no such heat and smell; a new stream of tedious kitchen life.
Cons: it is difficult to adapt to the temperature settings, fan speed, not always what you expect; pizza (as I understand it, any pastry) is beautiful on top, white on the bottom; for a large family (5 people) this plate is very good. not enough, you have to make 2 bookmarks, then not so much time saving; at the expense of the greater consumption of e-mail. I don't know the energy yet, I think we'll press a little more.
If the oven is good, I would think.
Three times mom
I try very hard, I want AG to meet my expectations. Now I dream of HP
Caprice
Quote: lira70

removing the hot lid urgently needs to find where to put it ... but it is not small .. and very hot.
And really, how is this problem solved?

Quote: Three times Mom

pizza (as I understand it, any pastry) beautiful on top, white on the bottom
They say that there are special mesh or perforated ones for baking in AG ... I don't even know what to call ... Trays, plates? True, this is not for sale here ...
balerian1
Caprice For these purposes, the AG has a special stand (though not in all models)

Three times mom Hot air must circulate inside the AG ... therefore food must be placed on the wire rack .... there should be two of them in the grill - an upper and a lower one .... many unknowingly put (food) on the bottom of the bowl ... get used to it ... not everything will work out right away ... experience is a great thing
Three times mom
Quote: balerian1

Caprice For these purposes, the AG has a special stand (though not in all models)

Three times mom Hot air must circulate inside the AG ... therefore food must be placed on the wire rack .... there should be two of them in the grill - an upper and a lower one .... many unknowingly put (food) on the bottom of the bowl ... get used to it ... not everything will work out right away ... experience is a great thing

The stand, in my opinion, is attached to the side of the AG, the main thing here is to think in advance where to put it, to be honest, I thought it would be more massive

I have two grilles, however, there is no middle one, it would be good. And a dish with holes was included. Oh, I don’t know if I’ll establish relations with AG. In general, Brand 35129 has excellent equipment, plates, skewers, even tongs for lifting hot grates, etc. Apparently, my arms are not the same
balerian1
Quote: Three times Mom

The stand, in my opinion, is attached to the side of the AG, the main thing here is to think in advance where to put it, to be honest, I thought it would be more massive

I have two grilles, however, there is no middle one, it would be good. And a dish with holes was included. Oh, I don’t know if I’ll establish relations with AG. In general, Brand 35129 has excellent equipment, plates, skewers, even tongs for lifting hot grates, etc. Apparently, my arms are not the same

in the viscounts there is still a pallet (it is also called a frying pan), a nozzle for cooking poultry, a grate for toasts ... the stand is simply placed on the table ...
Alena_wolf
Quote: Three times Mom

The stand, in my opinion, is attached to the side of the AG, the main thing here is to think in advance where to put it, to be honest, I thought it would be more massive

I have two grilles, however, there is no middle one, it would be good. And a dish with holes was included. Oh, I don’t know if I’ll establish relations with AG. In general, Brand 35129 has excellent equipment, plates, skewers, even tongs for lifting hot grates, etc. Apparently, my arms are not the same

I am still thinking about the advisability of acquiring AG. The girlfriend is buying for sure. But she gave her sister's Hotter, and she is in complete euphoria, they made barbecue, baked chicken and something else. For herself, however, she plans to take Brand, and in order to save on delivery she persuades all her friends to buy at the same time.
Two have already succumbed, but I can't make up my mind. It seems like I want to, I generally love any new technique. On the other hand, why?
balerian1
Alena_wolf Without exception, ALL AGs prepare equally, since they are assembled from the same components in the image and likeness ... and the difference is only in the name and promotion of the trademark
Manna
Quote: Three times Mom

pizza (the bottom is very white) <...> pizza (as I understand it, any pastry) is beautiful on top, white on the bottom
And on what rack did you make the pizza? I have a white bottom only in silicone molds, and everything is baked in metal ones. I cook the pizza in a metal mold that came with the kit (flat tray) on the top rack 205 ° C for 20 minutes at low fan speed. Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)
dopleta
Quote: Alena_wolf


Therefore, in addition to purely technical issues, I am interested in whether this unit is needed at all? My stove is heaped up, there is a grill and a spit in the oven, and it bakes cool.
How much does it make life easier (if it makes it easier) and what can he do that cannot be done in a good oven?

My firm opinion, which I have repeatedly voiced, and many agreed with me (although there are opponents, but, I am convinced, they simply do not have a very good oven) under such conditions, it is not needed! On purpose, I repeatedly made the same dishes in it and in the oven, and I like it much more in the oven. So I repeat my conviction - it is needed only in the absence of a good oven and with an excess of free space and funds.
Agata
Quote: Alena_wolf

... is this unit needed at all? My stove is heaped up, there is a grill and a spit in the oven, and it bakes great. C / n is, yogurt ice cream maker too.
How much does it make life easier (if it makes it easier) and what can he do that cannot be done in a good oven?
Alena_wolf, I will answer unequivocally: NOT NEEDED. You have good kitchen appliances. My opinion: the airfryer is just a beautiful toy, but the products will be tastier and of better quality in the oven. I am writing based on my own experience.
Having the same set of equipment as yours and having bought the airfryer, I played a little and sent it to the archive (to the garage, which means forever).

dopleta , yes we are right in unison. That's what the power of persuasion means!

Alena_wolf
Agata Thank you! I really needed support. I was able to fight off the purchase of a multicooker myself, but with AG - there is a very hard pressure. Not enough strength
balerian1
Convection oven is ideal for giving ..... if you have a good oven at home - not needed
zvezda
And I'm AGAINST !!!!!!!!!!!!! : girl_cray: NEEDED !!!!!! Not halogen !!!!!! Let it be a cheap model, but a heating element !!!!!!!!!!! I have a great oven and still MUST !!!!!!
Manna
I suppose the AG is really needed! BUT! Only to those who myself his wants and ready his master! For those who cook in small portions ... And for those who do not have an oven (like mine). Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)
Alena_wolf
Quote: manna

I suppose the AG is really needed! BUT! Only to those who myself his wants and ready his master! For those who cook in small portions ... And for those who do not have an oven (like mine). Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)
It's interesting for me to master it, the option to cook without oil is very attractive. Family - 2 people, so industrial cooking is excluded. But there is an oven
Basically, I try not to clutter up my home with unnecessary things. The criterion is - if the thing has not been used for a year - to be discarded! Naturally, first you ask your friends and acquaintances (since the junk that has not been released into circulation is thrown away, and often just new things that have not found a place in our life), and then we arrange a "Homeless Day" - a day when all unnecessary is taken out to the trash and from there spreading around the neighborhood. Much cannot be brought to the trash heap, he understands the process of expulsion from the apartment by neighbors
So, a new coffee machine moved, which we could not master - well, it didn’t turn out coffee, and it’s ridiculous to talk about cappuccino. But that was our fault - we looked at the feature set without paying attention to the pressure. The same fate befell the juicer - there is no dacha, and to squeeze juices from purchased fruits and berries - the toad strangles, it is better to eat it
I would not want to endure the AG later
zvezda
When there is no oven, the question is clear here at all ..... but I really like dishes from AG more than from a GOOD oven !!!!! And what is easier to wash ???? Sun. oven or one glass bowl, which also fits in the dishwasher ??? All the same, no one will convince me that to cook in a bowl, where air circulates inside and I can instantly change the speed and temperature worse .... just don't buy a halogen !!! He does not give a complete picture of the AG !!!!!!! You can try Hairpin... she compared ...
Alena_wolf
Quote: zvezda

When there is no oven, the question is clear here at all ..... but I really like dishes from AG more than from a GOOD oven !!!!! And what is easier to wash ???? Sun. oven or one glass bowl, which also fits in the dishwasher ??? All the same, no one will convince me that to cook in a bowl, where air circulates inside and I can instantly change the speed and temperature worse ...just don't buy halogen !!! He does not give a complete picture of the AG !!!!!!! You can try Hairpin... she compared ...
Thank you! We are not talking about halogen - if you take, then only heating elements and 3 convection speeds. I have already figured this out. You will probably have to throw a coin, otherwise you still can't decide
balerian1
I will speak out in defense of halogen ... I have a model with a halogen heater ... for almost a year now ... I have not noticed any problems with it ...
Advantages: when food is being cooked, lighting is not the last thing ... it reaches operating temperature much faster than metal ...
disadvantages: it seems like a small working resource of the heating element (I don't care ... I have a lot of spare ones) .... if liquid or fat gets on a hot heating element, it can burst (but with the same success it can burst .. and the lid rim bursts. .. crumbles into many pieces ... and this incident happens much more often)
Three times mom
Quote: balerian1

in the viscounts there is still a pallet (it is also called a frying pan), a nozzle for cooking poultry, a grate for toasts ... the stand is simply placed on the table ...
yes, in Brand everything is the same, I think it has the maximum configuration

balerian1
Quote: Three times Mom

yes, in Brand everything is the same, I think it has the maximum configuration

Differs only in price
Three times mom
Quote: manna

And on what rack did you make the pizza? I have a white bottom only in silicone molds, and everything is baked in metal ones. I cook the pizza in a metal mold that came with the kit (flat tray) on the top wire rack at 205 ° C for 20 minutes at low fan speed. Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)

I did it on a flat metal plate that comes with the kit, then stupidly on the foil, which I put on the grate. The result is the same. Apparently, the mistake was that I baked on the lower grate, I was afraid that the top would be baked quickly. Thanks for the advice. I will follow your example in the next. time, I hope it will work out. I also want to place it on a leaky plate.
lira70
Three times mom
try to choose thin forms for pizza and baked goods. The thicker the wall and bottom, the worse it is fried.
There is another option: put baking paper on the wire rack, make thin holes in it for air, or a silicone mat on the wire rack. Then it might be better.
If your Ag has 3 speeds, then at first at low, it drives air along the bottom of the flask and it is more likely that it will bake from below. then you can have an average speed, that is, the air runs in the middle of the flask, and high is that the crust would be beautiful. Because there may be a beautiful crust, but inside it is half-baked, it has been verified by experience.
It is better to put the fish on the wire rack. but first grease the grate with sunflower oil so that it doesn't stick so well.
I usually do this: on a medium grid, temperature 180, medium speed. and then I regulate.

And in the subject in recipes, I always completely wrote both the temperature and speed for cooking.

Caprice
I have a hinged lid, so I don't know who decides how, But I have a frying pan 35 cm wide. I don’t put the lid on the stool on which the towel lies. But I have no small children, and the dog does not enter the kitchen.
balerian1
I don’t know about other AGs, but mine included a lid stand ...
Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)

Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)

Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)
Caprice
Quote: zvezda

And I'm AGAINST !!!!!!!!!!!!! : girl_cray: NEEDED !!!!!! Not halogen !!!!!! Let it be a cheap model, but a heating element !!!!!!!!!!! I have a great oven and still MUST !!!!!!
Why not halogen?
lira70
I read somewhere that halogen is harmful, but on the other hand it may be the intrigues of the imperialists)))
ag "ves" with halogen it is made in Spain, and it is a hotter in Thailand, etc. Hotter has ten metal, Ves has halogen ...
I had a choice .. I chose a hotter, because they have a hotline, service - I broke the flask and bought it not for 1500, but for 900 rubles, since they also have discount cards for discounts, which not bad too))) everyone fights for the client as best he can ..
Caprice
Quote: lira70

I read somewhere that halogen is harmful, but on the other hand it may be the intrigues of the imperialists)))
That's why I see that we, the inhabitants of the "imperialist" countries, are being sold a solid halogen Probably in order to exterminate us as soon as possible
But seriously, I haven't seen others on sale, only halogen ones ... However, there is practically no choice of NG in Israel ... Only "two and a half" models ...
balerian1
Quote: lira70

I read somewhere that halogen is harmful, but on the other hand it may be the intrigues of the imperialists)))
ag "ves" with a halogen it is made in Spain, and it is a hotter in Thailand, etc. Hotter has ten metal, Ves has halogen ...
I had a choice .. I chose a hotter, because they have a hotline, a service - I broke the flask and bought it not for 1500, but for 900 r, since they also have discount cards for discounts, which not bad too))) everyone fights for the client as best he can ..

VES, HOTTER, SMAILE, VICONTE .... and others are made in CHINA !! ...... the harm from halogen is no more than from an ordinary incandescent lamp .... the same tungsten filament .... a glass bottle. .. and inert gas inside .....
lira70
you are harmful ...
but my personal hottetra is in thailand .. I will not prove it ... especially since you have a different brand of AG from china
balerian1
Quote: lira70

you are harmful ...
but my personal hottetra is in thailand .. I will not prove it ... especially since you have a different brand of AG from china

And I don’t hide it ..... only I saw the hotter from the inside ... and not one .... and in terms of assembly it loses to the Chinese
Three times mom
Quote: lira70

Three times mom
try to choose thin forms for pizza and baked goods. The thicker the wall and bottom, the worse it is fried.
There is another option: put baking paper on the wire rack, make thin holes in it for air, or a silicone mat on the wire rack. Then it might be better.
If your Ag has 3 speeds, then at first at low, it drives air along the bottom of the flask and it is more likely that it will bake from below. then you can have an average speed, that is, the air runs in the middle of the flask, and high is that the crust would be beautiful. Because there may be a beautiful crust, but inside it is half-baked, it has been verified by experience.

Again today I made pizza on foil, which I put on the wire rack, the bottom is actually raw, although I did it according to the advice of manna on the top wire rack, 205 deg., Low speed. A thought suddenly dawned on me: maybe it's the recipe !? I tried again Pizza dough from curd dough, trying to find for myself the best recipe for pizza dough. In short, I continue to torment AG
balerian1
Three times mom exactly the opposite ... at low speed - at the top of the flask ... etc., as an example, consider a simple fan - the lower the speed, the closer you need to approach it in order to feel the invigorating coolness
Manna
Quote: Three times Mom

A thought suddenly dawned on me: maybe it's the recipe !? I tried again Pizza dough from curd dough, trying to find for myself the best recipe for pizza dough. In short, I continue to torment AG
Then try lazy pizza from Stеrn. Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1) In this recipe, the dough is on top of the filling ... which means it will bake for sure Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)
Three times mom
Quote: manna

Then try lazy pizza from Stеrn. Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1) In this recipe, the dough is on top of the filling ... which means it will bake for sure Conveyor grill: model selection, tips, reviews (1)
I tried it, mine didn't like the dough. serve as in a pizzeria While looking
marysichca
Help with advice, I want to buy an airfryer, but it keeps me from having a good electric oven. if the meaning is in the airfryer? maybe he consumes less electricity?
sazalexter
Quote: marysichca

Help with advice, I want to buy an airfryer, but it keeps me from having a good electric oven. if the meaning is in the airfryer? maybe he consumes less electricity?
It makes no sense, only if you often cook for 1-2 people

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