Convection oven: model selection, tips, reviews (1)

Hello everybody!
diza67, I have a question for you as a user of the Hotter Tiger and Elite models. Elite is inferior to the Tiger in terms of cooking quality or did you not notice the difference? I choose between these two models, I don't know which one to choose. Thank you in advance for your response.

Good day ITU! At first, I did not want any other AG - only Tiger, but as it was written earlier .... There were only Hotter Elite in the store (with a removable lid, I, in principle, did not consider the model, there is no place in the kitchen for a lid). Not long I broke down - they took it - a lilac (and there was a little white Tiger).
There is an insignificant difference:
1. Price. If you buy through the Internet, it is the same. The cheapest - 8,500 rubles + delivery, in the Elite store 10,000 (+), Tiger 12,000 (-).
2. Design. I liked the Tiger more, and it is a little more compact (+). The Elite has a ledge at the back (-).
3. The Elite does not have an on / off key (-). There is a place for it, and the keys ... It is plugged directly into the socket. Tiger, I was constantly plugged into the outlet, I used the (+) key.
4. Screen. Tiger has LCD, Elite has LEDs. Here + I put Elite, because it burns ... pluck out your eye!
5. The panel itself. Here, too, Elite (+) is more understandable, especially for beginners - there are pictures. You don't have to look at the instructions all the time!
6. Oddly enough, but Elite's pastries are better (+)! Maybe he's new yet, I don't know.
I adapted to the Tiger. The rolls were baked at 260 gr., High speed - 20 minutes. At Elite - as it is written in the instruction 205, low - and I bake!
7. Bowls and items are exactly the same!
That's the whole difference! I would be glad if I helped in choosing! Happy shopping!

[Hotter]

In vain you, girls, scold the airfryer! I have worked Hotter Tiger for 4 years, in the full sense of the word, it turned on 3 times a day!

Here's the quality score overblown for the price Hotter- 4 years in total, for that kind of money - it's not just a little, it's terribly little.
I have a Chinese airfryer on the market bought tenovy with three speeds for 13 years plowing like a slave in galleys, and apparently is not going to retire.
Although I have already looked after myself a new one to replace him, Brandovsky little black - but then what to do with the old man?

You're just in luck. My Tiger also plowed, apparently it took 3 years for him. The husband said to repair something with a fan. I just didn't want to wait. And I definitely didn't want a Chinese AG! And I don’t want to! Everyone has their own choice. Excuse me.

When I bought the Tiger was made in the UK, the glass was from the Czech Republic. Now, of course, there is no guarantee. But I don't want to buy AG for 2 thousand so that it dies in six months. My first bread maker, cheap, lived for 4 months. And yet, I don't like removable covers, and only Hotters have brackets. Each bride will be born for her groom, so are household appliances. You are lucky - it works, someone buys it - in six months - it will be upset. We have no right to pressure. I am delighted with this brand, someone else - from another! Buying should be fun!

Do not quarrel. Working 3 times a day is of course experience. This is the same as with bread makers, someone bakes once a month, and someone every day, and more than once uses. Ves is still on the brackets, but I won't say anything about the quality, I haven't seen Hotters in our eyes.

Do not quarrel. Working 3 times a day is of course experience.

Happy Holidays!
But mine was not lazy either - the poor fellow survived so much, too, after all, I drive in the tail and in the mane. But my approach to all home appliances has long been this way - I look at the assembly (so that it is reliably assembled, without jambs and at the technical characteristics). And a prestigious company - from experience with my terrible Mulinex bread makers - is a secondary issue.

[diza67]

4. Screen. The Tiger has LCD, the Elite has LEDs. Here + I put Elite, because it burns ... pluck out your eye!
5. The panel itself. Here, too, Elite (+) is more understandable, especially for beginners - there are pictures. You don't have to look at the instructions all the time!

diza67, and you have not accidentally saved photos for clarity, what pictures are burning on the screen of both? Or maybe there are pictures from the instructions.

So far I can only describe. Elite - bright red neon numbers on a black background, "you can see for a km." And the Tiger has already been removed into the box - black numbers on a gray background, the husband claims that there was no backlight. With pictures while a problem, how it goes - I'll put it.

diza67, thank you for your answer.
Also, I'm wondering, when you take out the flask, the airfryer does not collapse (the head does not outweigh it)?

I don't like removable covers, and only Hotters have brackets.

Ves is still on the brackets, but I won't say anything about the quality, I haven't seen Hotters in our eyes.

Brand has two more models on the crown. One of them externally is the spitting image of Hotter Tiger. The second is the same, but it also has built-in programs.
In general, there is a choice of AG with brackets. And it’s not even a bad one.And Hotter, in my opinion, overprices

[diza67]

So far I can only describe. Elite - bright red neon numbers on a black background, "you can see for a km." And the Tiger has already been removed in the box - black numbers on a gray background, the husband claims that there was no backlight. With pictures while a problem, how it goes - I'll put it.

Thank you, diza67 that responded. I have already found on the Internet how it looks. And even though I was looking ...

And Hotter, in my opinion, overprices

I think the same. Therefore, I was not going to buy it ... I myself don't know what I want

I think the same. Therefore, I was not going to buy it ... I myself don't know what I want

Take our black Brandik, so handsome, I look at him myself, I can't see enough - such a honey! And on the bracket!

Take our black Brandik, so handsome, I look at him myself, I can't see enough - such a honey! And on the bracket!

I'm looking at him closely for now. The cat lady will receive hers soon. There are already reviews from Nevushka and Manna, and there will be more from Lena. Maybe I'll decide on it. True, one good man whispered in my ear until I was in a hurry, I don’t even drive horses, I go around the oven.

I have a Daewoo AG, it is also on the bracket, I am very pleased with it, the control is touch-sensitive, I use it almost every day, everything is super !!! And as for inexpensive equipment, I want to say that everything depends not only on the expensive Brand and the price, but on the assembly and can really, whoever is lucky !!! diza67, You probably just had no luck with a bread maker, but I have a simple DEX 307 plowing for the third year and baking every day !!! I try not to get too dirty with expensive brands (I already have experience with a food processor), because nowadays, when you start walking around the warranty workshops, you will only ruffle your nerves! I believe that everyone stays with his own opinion, but we just need to share reviews about our air grills, about their pros and cons, and the forum users will choose for themselves !!!

[Ksyusha]

I'm looking at him closely for now. The cat lady will receive hers soon. There are already reviews from Nevushka and Manna, and there will be more from Lena. Maybe I'll decide on it. True, one good man whispered in my ear until I was in a hurry, I don’t even drive horses, I go around the oven.

Ksyusha, my review will not be soon! At 3.01 he is still in Moscow, God forbid, to get there by Monday. And the money went away even 20.12. It takes a very long time to collect the parcel for sending.

I bought a Supra AGS-1211 airfryer, put it on the table and was thrilled to bask in its rays ...

Congratulations, Wasp! I also have Suprochka, only a slightly different model - 1201. Good machine For a month I have been tirelessly - the enthusiasm will not settle down

[Wasp]

Wasp, and congratulations from me !!!
I still can't decide on an airfryer, because the built-in oven is enough for me.

But soon I will be moving to another apartment, and there is a problem of a lack of space, until I decided for sure, but I'm already sorry to allocate a whole closet for the installation, in which so much could fit, and at the same time it's not a fact that I have enough desktop space for all my devices

[wooden skewers]

Comrades, experienced airfryer - I have a question!
I have an air fryer - the principle of operation is the same - blowing with hot air, I bought it recently and I don’t know:

Can I use wooden skewers for a kebab? They will not light up there at 180-200 C ??

I used. It's okay with the skewers. We use paper for baking.

[wooden skewers]

Can I use wooden skewers for a kebab? They will not light up there at 180-200 C ??

You can, you can! It is recommended to moisten, but do not burn even without it.

And I'm wondering how to fix bamboo skewers inside the airfryer? Somewhere in the closet were short metal ones. Do not put them on the wire rack? I understand that you can bend wire holders, but suddenly there is something ready for sale.

Do not put them on the wire rack?

Why not add? Just add!

good day!
I would like to consult with you, because I do not know at all how I should be.
Even before the holidays, my husband brought an airfryer HX-1098 SMART, decided to cook pork with a whole piece of pork on the New Year's table for 2-2.5 kg. The meat was baked for 4 hours. I'm in shock !!! The lid on the flask does not fall tightly, it walks on it with a shaker leaving cracks through which the heat comes out, and, in my opinion, it comes out quite well. I decided that this is a marriage and this should not be, especially with friends, although in the earlier models the lid on the flask falls heavily and closes it tightly. I quickly washed everything and collected it for a refund, today I sent my husband to the store, he looked at all the models and said that everyone has it, and that the sellers explained to him that it should be so. He took it back to use it for a couple more days and see what's what. Here I sit and wait and think, how should it really be?
please help me with advice, I can't cope without you)))
Thank you.

good day!
I would like to consult with you, because I do not know at all how I should be.
Even before the holidays, my husband brought an airfryer HX-1098 SMART, decided to cook pork with a whole piece of pork on the New Year's table for 2-2.5 kg. The meat was baked for 4 hours. I'm in shock !!! The lid on the flask does not fall tightly, it walks on it with a shaker leaving cracks through which the heat comes out, and, in my opinion, it comes out quite well. I decided that this is a marriage and this should not be, especially with friends, although in the earlier models the lid on the flask falls heavily and closes it tightly. I quickly washed everything and collected it for a refund, today I sent my husband to the store, he looked at all the models and said that everyone has it, and that the sellers explained to him that it should be so. He took it back to use it for a couple more days and see what's what. Here I sit and wait and think, how should it really be?
please help me with advice, I can't cope without you)))
Thank you.

Hour 4 is still a bit too much ... And what did you bake in? I would do it in foil or a sleeve and it would take a maximum of 2 hours, or even less for your piece of meat. The lid, the same, does not fit very well ... Do not rush to hand over, I think you will make friends

good day!
The lid on the flask does not fall tightly, it walks on it with a shaker leaving cracks through which the heat comes out, and, in my opinion, it comes out quite well.

Mine is leaky, of course, but the heat does not come out, I can calmly bend over the joint itself and watch. Especially now I checked, I bake buns.

good day!
I would like to consult with you, because I do not know at all how I should be.
Even before the holidays, my husband brought an airfryer HX-1098 SMART, decided to cook pork with a whole piece of pork on the New Year's table for 2-2.5 kg. The meat was baked for 4 hours. I'm in shock !!! The lid on the flask does not fall tightly, it walks on it with a shaker leaving cracks through which the heat comes out, and, in my opinion, it comes out quite well. I decided that this is a marriage and this should not be, especially with friends, although in the earlier models the lid on the flask falls heavily and closes it tightly. I quickly washed everything and collected it for a refund, today I sent my husband to the store, he looked at all the models and said that everyone has it, and that the sellers explained to him that it should be so. He took it back to use it for a couple more days and see what's what. Here I sit and wait and think, how should it really be?
please help me with advice, I can't cope without you)))
Thank you.

The fact that the lid does not fit snugly is, I think, because of the bracket. Somewhere in this thread I saw how the AG was improved in order to "cure" this problem: on the one hand, the washers were screwed onto the substrate so that the saucepan would come closer to the bracket, and on the other hand, these washers, on the contrary, were removed. T. about. the gap decreases or disappears altogether. And something else on the bracket itself was adjusted. Study the thread for a more specific description.
I have an AG with a removable lid, it fits very tightly, no cracks.

Self-cleaning, I think, is not such a useful function. Well, he poured water into the flask, well, it warmed up there, ran in a circle. Laid off, let's say, well. But then this bandura must be taken to the sink, the dirty water must be drained. And the bandura is heavy with water, but hot! In short, it is easier to wash by hand.
And what is your AG? If with full minced meat - Hotter, I suppose? That is why I did not buy it expensive - I see that a lot of people refused him a permanent residence permit in the kitchen. I'm not used to throwing money away. Therefore, I bought one of the cheapest cars, so if anything, it was not so offensive. But if I become friends, but if you need a new one, then ...
I used to think that. And now, I think, if that - I will buy the same. Simple, cheap, but functional. And he got a residence permit from me the most that neither is permanent What is called: we got along with him in characters.

azaza, as if about self-cleaning, it's hot and heavy, it's easier with your hands, especially after the chicken, let's say you still need to soak and tear off, and the flask itself (walls and bottom) and handles are wonderfully washed
I have a number of problems, ranging from no place to unwillingness to wash
I bought it first (before other devices), maybe my friend was crazy about AG. and then MV, from which I am crazy and my friend bought it, as a result she does not use MV (she did not like it, for example, they do not eat porridge in her family, and everything is cooked from it). or I use HB all the time (I don’t buy bread from the store at all), and my husband’s sister only “on holidays”.
in general, perhaps it is also necessary to consider the family's gastronomic preferences.
another example, I bought an air fryer, fried potatoes in it for the very first time, it turned out to be damp (as it turned out later, I had to add more time, because I took more potatoes than was needed according to the recipe), I threw it all summer, I regretted it honestly about buying (as now about buying AG), and then on the forum I read a recipe for meat in it, and that's all, now almost everything that needs to be fried (just fry onions with carrots, meat, pies, etc.) is only in it.

About the family's gastronomic addictions in the very heart! One gets a watermelon, another pig cartilage for dessert
AG is very to my taste, but AF somehow does not inspire yet. And thank God! We should take a little time-out. And as I went to the forum, in a month and a half and acquired HP, MV and AG. I would slow down a bit, otherwise I will buy all the devices in a couple of months - and then there will be nothing to want

Rebziki! who has 7 liters? shallow chicken easily fits? Regular chicken (non-elephant) (there is also a ring, but for now I am considering an option without it)

[IRR]

Well, Tanya, I would ask such stupid questions about the volume, tell me? I would have stupidly stuffed a chicken into it ... Flour of choice, panimash ...

IRR, of course not a large chicken will be shoved, there will be no stock. And the ring is removable, you can always remove it if you have one.
It's good when the grill lid on a hinge leans back, you don't need to buy a stand or attach it somehow hot, but that's if the lockers allow it.

Rebziki! who has 7 liters? shallow chicken easily fits? Regular chicken (non-elephant) (there is also a ring, but for now I am considering an option without it)

I have 10 liters with a ring 14 will fit and a broiler piglet chicken

[IRR]

IRR,
It's good when the grill lid on the hinge leans back, you don't need to buy a stand or attach it somehow hot,

Stand included

[IRR]

IRR, of course not a large chicken will be shoved, there will be no stock.

Vanya28, I ask, do you also have this miracle? and how many liters? and what does it mean there will be no stock? stock of what? empty space for blowing? and it will be? I understand correctly? ... with lids-brackets, there is a brainstorming session on the topic, there is a stick about 2 ends - half for removable, approximately, left for hanging? Do you, as I understand it, hang? once again sorry

Flour of choice, panimash ...

Well, as far as I understand, if I’ve already tuned in and finances allow it, then why waste time on trifles. What if a good large chicken turns up and then what will you do with your 7L?

then there will be no stock? stock of what? empty space for blowing? and it will be? I understand correctly? ...

Right, right. The walls should not touch, the air should circulate.

PYSY: and I have two quotes inserted

[Vanya28]

Vanya28, I ask, do you also have this miracle? and how many liters? and what does it mean there will be no stock? stock of what? empty space for blowing? and it will be? I understand correctly? ... with lids-brackets, there is a brainstorming session on the topic, there is a stick about 2 ends - half for removable, approximately, left for hanging? Do you, as I understand it, hang? once again sorry

Hanging, hanging (what the cap is).
Hotter 17 liters, but now I would buy some other company, cheaper. Everything is one.
The large grill can be used for many more applications.
For example, to make boiled sausage, but it is not profitable to make a little of it (it quickly disappears), or to dry mushrooms on grates.
Extra volume is useful.
There, in addition to the lid, it is good to pay attention to the heater, I myself prefer a thick copper heating element, and not halogen heating. It seems to me that this way the resource is larger.

Hanging, hanging (what the cap is).

oh, thank God, otherwise I was scared of course, but 17 liters - this is my one room will be too much

17 liters is my one room will be too much

So they are 12 liters. (and 17 is already with a ring, due to the height). If only standing chick fit. I'm lying down (no ring) so it takes up space, almost the entire length.
I saw 7-liter, well, very small. I also thought that you can cook there

I saw 7-liter, well, very small. I also thought that you can cook there

Duc, there is a ring in the 7 liter one, if anything, I'll put it up, it's not a question ... I'm just comparing my 6 liter pressure cooker in volume and, frankly, it is not small, but the AG will be bigger by a liter + ring .. ... here ... I think ... I estimate.

So we put the whole volume in the pressure cooker, and in the airfryer in a different way. There the air should circulate from above, and below, and on the sides.

[Elena Bo!]

So we put the whole volume in the pressure cooker, and in the airfryer in a different way. There the air should circulate from above, and below, and on the sides.

so ... I'll come from the other side ... Elena Bo! won't you shave in a 7 liter + ring (I don't know how much it will be in real life, now I'll look in a search engine) a chicken about one and a half kg? (I don't need it anymore)

I do not know how much it will be with the ring in height.If standing on a device for grilled chicken, then you need to see what height it has (they are different) and add at least see 10

I do not know how much it will be with the ring in height. If standing on the grilled chicken device,

and if stupidly lying on a stand?

I already wanted to write smart thoughts ...

And then suddenly a hint in my head popped up - buy a chicken and try it on in the store
How Mr. Bean tried fish on pans in a supermarket

But seriously, I'm afraid I will push my ass and neck. And you also need to turn it over carefully (at least in my case).
It's easier when standing. It is necessary to measure everything, it is possible that the ring will be as it should be.

[IRR]

IRR, I bake a chicken "standing" in a large AG with a ring (17L) if it weighs no more than 1.7-1.8kg. At the same time, I try to plant it deeper on the stand so that its neck does not rest on the ten. You can, of course, bake the chicken and "lying", but then it needs to be turned over, and the result is a little different.

[IRR]

IRR, can I get in? Today I got to my AG, found a place for him (I moved the microwave oven to the cupboard, now, entering the kitchen, I get an unclosed door on my forehead, which slams loudly from the blow). So, regarding the volume, so that a ruddy crust is obtained from all sides, you need air access, that is, you have to put food on the spread. Do not put more than 3 quarters of chicken without overlap. Written correctly Elena Bo: in the pressure cooker, we put the whole volume, and in the airfryer, differently. Imagine that it is an upside-down steamer that heats only by transferring heat from the heater to the air and steam in and from the flask to the food. You can't put several layers already.

I decided to try baking bread and making chicken. She took the very first of the recipes for HP, after the HP readiness signal, she rolled a bun out of it - and onto a flat glass baking dish (I simply did not buy another one). I put it on the lower grill, closed the airfryer, turned it on a little bit so that the dough would not freeze, and after 30 minutes I set it to 20 minutes-200C. To my huge surprise, after 2-3 minutes on the thermometer (which with its hook perfectly attached to the grid under the AG lamp) was already over 100C, then 150, 170! After 10 minutes, the top of the kolobok darkened (I reduced it to 150C), and by the appointed time, it was almost completely baked - only at the bottom the glass did not allow the dough to fry. I put it on for another 10 minutes, but still it’s not right ... there’s heating from above, not like in the oven. And the gap between the mold and the wall was small.
The chicken turned out to be a pensioner, but the smell was during the process mmmmmm! Kuru smeared the remains of mayonnaise + salt + pepper + seasoning for potatoes. Fat from the upper grate dripped into a mold with potatoes on the lower tier, which made the latter float in a puddle. I then caught it, salted it and baked it separately, after the chicken.
I am attaching the photo, I am glad that nothing has burnt. For myself, I concluded that glassware, which saved so well from a burnt bottom in a gas oven, does not fit the AG, due to its super-speed heating and the upper position of the heater.
IRR, more information for you on the volume in the photos (sorry for the quality, I shot with one hand). Bread with 500g of flour spread out over almost the entire form (27cm) and supported the thermometer with the roof, then knocked it down. The chicken lies on the upper lattice, from it to the AG piece of iron you can hardly put a matchbox on the edge. The top protruding parts of the food brown very quickly and well. So next time I'll put on the ring. It only seems big, but cooking in 12 liters is just right! Of course, if you do not use baNanotechnology in the kitchen

[IRR]

IRR, can I get in?

need to!

Masha, you can talk to me (I'm so young, auto-training and nonsense)! What I wanted to ask? what time is it

, and by the appointed time, it was almost completely baked - t

how many breads were baked?

and I scratch my turnips, probably I should definitely take 12, otherwise I won't get a culinary orgasm, but I really wanted it on a budget ...I take exclusively grilling chickens, everything else is not relevant and, to be honest, I just wanted it less after the reportage Wasps... Somehow I felt everything so real, like, how I suffered myself, cooked and ate. All the same, insects to each other - friend tovarisch and brother ...