Cooking in Oursson KP0600HSD processor

TM (Orson, blender, etc.) will never replace MB. Even if you eat pureed soups and mousses all the time, CF is more versatile.

In a multicooker-pressure cooker, you can always prepare a complete dish for everyone at once. And from ordinary soup, you can always make a puree soup, pour a little into a bowl and beat with a blender - even one serving. How to please all family members.

In the processor (TM), this will not work, the design of the device is not the same. Therefore, it is better and more practical to have a multicooker-pressure cooker and a good all-round blender.

During my work, the Venser nozzle has already jumped off 4 times. And of course, every time she was knifed with knives. Did anyone have this? And where can you buy a new one? Guys who knows, please tell me. Orsika bought it in early February. Satisfied with everything except this attachment

During my work, the Venser nozzle has already jumped off 4 times. And of course, every time she was knifed with knives. Did anyone have this? And where can you buy a new one? Guys who knows, please tell me. Orsika bought it in early February. Satisfied with everything except this attachment

You can probably buy in the SC. But as far as I understand, this attachment can be used at a speed not exceeding 2 (!) Then it will hold and not jump off.

You can probably buy in the SC. But as far as I understand, this attachment can be used at a speed not exceeding 2 (!) Then it will hold and not jump off.

I used the Venser attachment at higher speeds of 5-7, I didn't need more for now - everything is fine.
Perhaps you need to reinsert the nozzle carefully and firmly - check

I used the Venser attachment at higher speeds of 5-7, I didn't need more for now - everything is fine.
Perhaps you need to reinsert the nozzle carefully and firmly - check

To be honest, I proceed from the instructions for the TM, where their similar nozzle is not recommended to be used at a speed higher than 3. But since in the gearbox the reduced speeds are turned much faster than in the TM, I do not turn it on above the second speed with this nozzle. But so far I've only cooked porridge with her

During my work, the Venser nozzle has already jumped off 4 times. And of course, every time she was knifed with knives. Did anyone have this? And where can you buy a new one? Guys who knows, please tell me. Orsika bought it in early February. Satisfied with everything except this attachment

I jumped off once, but I didn't dress her well. After that, I first put on the attachment for dry knives, and then I put the food in and nothing comes off.
You can use the Venser swing at 4 speeds.
I call the Orson support service and they themselves don’t know where to buy it, there is no service anywhere, you have to order.

Girls, I finally understood how to knead dough for bread in Orson, for the third time)))
We put liquid components, salt, sugar, oil. We turn on the dough mode for 2 minutes. After 10 seconds, start adding flour one tablespoon at a time. Then the Orson kneads the dough very gently and well.
And when we throw everything at once, it's hard for him to mix and the motor starts to warm up, look))) I hope someone will use my observations.
Now the dough is being proofed, I really like its appearance))

Yes, I wanted to ask if someone can measure the rate of water if it is heated at 37 degrees. I measured it in mine and my temperature probe showed 45 or even higher. I don’t know if I have something with the temperature sensor or is it all like that?

In general, the set of temperature in the KP puts me into a stupor - it heats up very quickly and strongly.Everything in TM is somehow calmer, very unusual ...
So I think, Mash, it's not just you.

I just remember that initially it was not like that, I certainly did not check, but it seems to me so. And then I decided to warm up the water for the bread dough and I think, let me do it in the checkpoint, maybe 37 is just what you need. But when I opened the lid, there was steam, I took the temperature probe and measured it and the rate was much higher, it made me think badly.

Now I tried it again, 2 glasses of water at 37 degrees. In two minutes, the temperature reached and I turned it off. Measured and came out 43 degrees.

We have been using the KP since November, bought mainly for cooking anything that requires either an exact temperature or cooking in a water bath.
Cooking lemon curd - all friends come with food to take the jar home, custard, custard dough, ice cream blanks = then to an ice cream maker (according to recipes from the owners of TM from the Internet), so as not to burn, reduce the temperature by 10 grams. (by the way, in the instructions for TM, and it is written, experiment with the temperature)
We do not shift anything about mashed potatoes, and we do not steam it, we found a recipe
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=31311.0, modernized 1 kg of potatoes in slices + 280 grams of water cook for 25 min / 90g / sk1 (this makes almost mashed potatoes).
Add 1/2 tsp. salt, 50-70 gr. butter, and mix 15-40 sec / sc. 4
by the way, shortbread dough (for a muffin dish for 200g of flour) literally in 5 minutes from weighing to placing in the refrigerator.
Puree soups are beyond competition ...
We do not use a steamer, since there is a multicooker, a pressure cooker-smokehouse.

[Why I suggested not to compare Thermomix and Processor in the same topic]

Girls, I don't like this processor, it has so many jambs, I'm already upset that I bought it for my mother. If it were not for the gift today, I would have sold this commercial proposal, and bought something else!

Why I suggested not to compare Thermomix and Processor in the same topic

When you already have one device and get used to it, then the second one is always not the same as it should be
The Processor does not have a lot of jambs, but you also need to get used to, adapt, master, as you once got used to Thermomix. And you constantly have the Thermomix in front of your eyes, and you cannot mentally reconstruct and accept the new device as it is!
In this case, your mother can cope with it faster, because she will not have an example of another in front of her eyes, and who will not "put pressure" on her

I have nothing to compare with, and I work with the processor and try to make friends and understand it. And the processor suits me, fulfills all my wishes! Since I have no desire to pay 50, 0 thousand rubles for Thermomix, I use all the capabilities of the kitchen processor.

During my work, the Venser nozzle has already jumped off 4 times. And of course, every time she was knifed with knives. Did anyone have this? And where can you buy a new one? Guys who knows, please tell me. Orsika bought it in early February. Satisfied with everything except this attachment
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I faced exactly the same problem a couple of weeks ago. The instructions say how to put on this attachment is poorly written, it says that you need to put it on and turn it, in fact, it must be pressed rather hard onto the pin, and not turned. If you do not press with force, then at a speed above 2 it flies off and naturally the knives scratch and even crumble it. I was shocked at first, since I hadn’t used the device for a month. I called the hotline, there really are people who do not have experience in operating this device themselves, but they find out everything and call back. When we finally figured out that the instructions say something completely different, this attachment was replaced for me free of charge. Moreover, we even managed to agree not to go to the service, and their employee came to me a week later and replaced me. True, I thought I was just lucky, maybe there was a delivery to my area. But it's still very nice that we went to the meeting.

You can probably buy in the SC.But as far as I understand, this attachment can be used at a speed not exceeding 2 (!) Then it will hold and not jump off.

According to the instructions, the speed when using this nozzle is not higher than 4! At speed 2, even eggs don't whisk well!

Honestly, for a month of periodic use, I fix two serious shortcomings. First, it makes a lot of noise. In the morning if you cook while someone else is sleeping, I think it will wake you up. I really don't like it. I looked on the Internet and found several reviews that the thermomix is ​​also terribly noisy, it calmed me down a little, after all, the price difference is three times. And the second is what burns in it. True, this is not felt at all on the quality of the finished dish, neither the taste, nor the smell, nor the color suggest a burnt dish. But at the bottom near the knives there is always a burn, and it is annoying to scrub him. Burn like a stainless steel saucepan. After soaking, it is rather well wiped off with a metal wire sponge (like steel casts), but not with a sponge, the sponge does not take it. And the porridge burns, and the mashed potatoes, and the sauce. And in the cooking mode, just at 90 degrees.
And I also did not understand how to set the cooking time so that it would shut itself off. But it's okay, I'll find out on the hotline.

In general, the device is not bad, a warm blender is a good idea. The volume of the bowl is larger than that of a blender, it is convenient. True, an old brown blender is still in use. Since a small portion of Orson just spreads on the walls

I bought this Orson a month ago, although by the time of purchase I realized that I need to start with a multicooker and they do not exclude each other. But after studying the issue of multicooker, I came to the conclusion that, although Orson's one is attractive, there are many complaints about it, besides, the issue with the quality of the inner coating of the pan, which is actively discussed in other forums, remains. In general, I decided that it is better to choose Kuko, but I want to buy it in Ukraine, where the price is almost half the price in Moscow and almost comes out like an Orson multicooker for the money. But unfortunately in Ukraine it has been out of stock for more than a month ... So I'm waiting.

I know what's in another section. And I read about all the complaints. And that users don't complain about the quality of the bowl. There are questions about certification and the composition of the coating, on this site no one discussed this, but somewhere there were links to other sites. In general, I decided not to risk it.

Must be ordered through the service, Venser

What I don't have is complaints about the coating of the pans - very durable and neat, I use two pots at once. And in general, there are no complaints about the work of Urson 5005

The bottom of the processor is very well washed, if you first remove and pull the knife system out of the bottom, pull it out and insert it into place "at once".

Yes, by the way, the bottom is washed normally, I don't even take off my knives. And if the knives are removed so without any problems, you can rub them with a sponge.
Angelica1, you rubbed it with an iron brush, so it began to burn strongly. I don't rub it with such a thing, only with a sponge.

It seems that it has not faded. Looks like any normal steel pot. And it is cleaned with the same success. I have never removed the knives, the sponge will normally crawl under them. I noted this as a disadvantage for the reason that I did not expect at all that something would burn to the bottom. There is also stirring. Indeed, when you cook in a saucepan, if you stir periodically, then nothing will have time to burn. And here the knives just sit just above the bottom and it is under the knives that the mass is not scraped off, as it were, from the bottom. Therefore, it burns there in 25 minutes of cooking.

And about the quality of the coating of the pan in the multicooker of this company, I doubted, after reading that it was some kind of unknown composition that is not used for dishes and similar appliances either for the European or even for the Korean market. It seems like a novelty or something. But if there is no certification for Europe and the composition is unknown, although the company is being promoted as Switzerland, God knows what they mixed there, because these multicooker is produced only for the CIS market, like all Orson equipment. The attitude towards us is ...And we ourselves, in the majority, do not bother on this topic, and this can be used. Now there are so many things about the harmfulness of some non-stick coatings that it is safer for me personally to buy a pan that has been certified in Europe and is sold, or at least in Korea itself. As for the processor, there is a simple stainless steel bowl, there is no non-stick coating, and therefore there is no reason to doubt this topic either.

It burns because the temperature does not correspond to the declared one - it is clearly higher.
Plus the composition of the bowl is kind of sticky, and it is VERY DIFFICULT to wash this burn! I really didn't rub it with iron sponges, I was afraid to ruin it, I naturally remove the knives with any washing, this is a second procedure, and you can easily cut your hands. I have a bowl soaked with dishwashing liquid for half a day, and then another 15-20 minutes of intensive washing
In general, I stopped cooking in it with heating, I do it in TM.
I agree that this burn is not transmitted to the taste of dishes, but still not very pleasant ...
Stainless steel is also different, it sticks to some, but not to the other.

And in 5005 there can be no bad quality or harmful coating on the bowl, since it is produced at the highly respected Korean company Lihom, and in Korea everyone is obsessed with health safety. They will not fool around especially for the CIS and produce all kinds of garbage!

Naturally, I read what kind of enterprise it was, and at first I calmed down. But there are people who have studied in more detail and write that this coating is not used on any other pans of this, including the enterprise. It has a proprietary trade name, but the composition is unknown. It is impossible to assess safety. Certification only for the CIS market. By the way, the market is very capacious, if you take into account the high price of the device in our market, again, then you can get confused for this. After all, all Orson is designed and produced only for our market. Unlike the same assembly, these are not discontinued Kuko models that have been tested by the Korean and European markets. It is quite possible that this is a very good new innovative coating, but I personally prefer to buy Kuko for this price, since in Europe this issue is taken much more seriously.
As for the processor, my sponge is not iron, but made of soft wire. I use it for glass baking dishes and ceramic baking bowls and stainless steel, of course. Non-stick coating, it can scrape, if there is one, here I did not experiment. And she washes this bowl very well, I just never thought that I would have to scrub it. By the way, the knives are not so sharp, I work with my bare hands, I never injured anything. I'll try to remove the knives next time. In general, this bowl behaves like a stainless steel pan. And in the thermomix with similar manipulations, it means it does not burn? Yes, this is a serious advantage, in my opinion.

By the way, I half thought that if the temperature is higher than the nominal, can I try to cook not at 90 but at 80 degrees? I just don't have a thermometer to check the temperature there. I'll try at 80.
I understand that in the cooking mode, the temperature is generally standard. If I need to set 90 or less, then this is no longer the cooking mode, but all the settings are individual, right?

I understand that in the cooking mode, the temperature is generally standard. If I need to set 90 or less, then this is no longer the cooking mode, but all the settings are individual, right?

But I didn't understand this already
Any mode in CP and TM is individual, there are no pre-installed automatic programs. Each time you set the time and speed yourself, and, if necessary, heat treatment also the temperature.
In TM, really, nothing burns, especially at 90 degrees, especially dairy-free and even 100g. I didn't even imagine that it could be different, otherwise the whole meaning is lost. It can burn on the stove, why then buy anything else ...

By the way, I saw how much TM in Germany costs 1100 euros, and now it has a discount of 20 euros, hihi)))
It does not burn in TM, because there the heating element is made differently, it is built directly into the bowl, and in the gearbox it is made, as in the previous model TM21, those in the unit body. I think that's the difference.

It does not burn in TM, because there the heating element is made differently, it is built directly into the bowl, and in the gearbox it is made, as in the previous model TM21, those in the unit body. I think that's the difference.

Purely visually, both bowls look almost the same, what is the connection with burning, I do not quite understand, explain, Mash
And it doesn't burn in TM 21 either.
Well, what can you do? I sin on the thermal sensor, not the heating element device.

Yes, I wasn't just sitting there reading about the TM device, so I made an assumption. I do not approve.
Sometimes nothing burns with me, and sometimes it sticks, maybe the thermal sensor works like that. But at 90 it never stuck, but in simple cooking mode it can sometimes stick.

Here on another forum I found Orson's twin brother. Distributed in Australia and China.

Since our topic is called "Oursson KP0600HSD Kitchen Processor, an analogue of Thermomix", and not "recipes for KP Orson" or simply "KP Orson", then we can discuss the processor itself and the unit, an analogue of which it is even in the name of the topic.

Are we unreasonably negotiating the KP? We are all in an equal situation - we spent our money and discuss impressions, if only so that potential buyers have a more complete and correct idea of ​​the commercial proposal, and everyone decides for himself whether he needs such a device or not. When the same thing happens in topics about kneaders or waffle makers, where the price of the issue is completely different, none of the owners of their units says that if you don't like your purchase, then sit quietly and be silent, and do not spoil the mood of others or you can to speak only as of a dead man - either good or nothing?

Everyone who has registered on the forum has the right to share his experience, if it does not contain profanity and does not offend other participants in the discussion, is not it?

TM has a presentation system where potential buyers can get acquainted with the device. Of course, it cannot be otherwise for its price, no one wants to pay almost 1.5 thousand euros for a pig in a poke.

But the price of the commercial proposal is also not small (at least for me), and there is nowhere to see, touch, and even more so to see it in operation (not to mention the regions)! The rest have only one hope - those who have already bought and use it.

I don't like CP, and it's not that I'm used to TM (although, of course, you get used to good things quickly). If I knew everything I know about KP now, I would not have spent this money on it. Another thing is that TM is absolutely unreasonably expensive, and therefore I cannot say that it is better, the prices of these units are incomparably different! And we all have already agreed that these appliances are far from being paramount by necessity in the kitchen. Do I have to pay that much for them?
Better then Kenwood with induction heating or Bomann with him.

Today I cooked oatmeal at 80 degrees for a total of 30 minutes - it was not burnt. If the same thing happens again, it means that the temperature is really raised and the issue is resolved. Now about the cooking mode. If you press this mode, the temperature is automatically 100 and cannot be changed. I meant it. Right? Or have I not figured it out?

And what else is Thermomix better than Orson? Does it make noise too? But it doesn't burn. Is the rest the same? It even makes sense to compare, because we all bought it after learning about the baking capabilities of the thermomix, but deciding that it is meaninglessly dear to us. And we use recipes from the thermomix. In my opinion, Orson is convenient for anyone in the kitchen, from time to time it can even make life much easier. I'll buy a multicooker, then I'll finally decide whether I shouldn't have bought Orson or not.

Vei, well, why beat hysterics? And you don't need to slander me

For those, who already owns the processor:
1.turn back to the store, as it did not meet expectations
2.cook, exhibit recipes, evaluate opportunities, give advice

And to beat in hysterics for the entire forum, and the Internet - well, and then what? What do you want to prove to the public? Which Thermomix is ​​Better? Maybe! Every appliance has good and bad! You might think that you were forced to buy a processor at gunpoint. You yourself decided to buy it, no one imposed it. And I warned you that you will constantly be accompanied by the desire to compare these two devices. Why take offense at me now

Perhaps you will achieve that many will go into the shadows, will not display recipes here, will cook in silence and rejoice at what they have
Isn't it better to combine "bad and good" - to leave offenses aside and try to make friends with the processor, jointly master the device! Well, if there is no way to return it to the store

I have been using the CP since December and I can say that I have not regretted for a second that I bought it. The possibilities and variety in cooking have increased significantly. In general, I am happy, well, of course, as in every technique there are some imperfections and you always want better.
I cook a lot in it and we are 100% friends with him and I don't want to change it. The price of the KP is adequate, in my opinion. And by the way, I can't live without him, that's how much I got used to the CP.

I have been using the CP since December and I can say that I have not regretted for a second that I bought it. The possibilities and variety in cooking have increased significantly. In general, I am happy, well, of course, as in every technique there are some imperfections and you always want better.
I cook a lot in it and we are 100% friends with him and I don't want to change it. The price of the KP is adequate, in my opinion. And by the way, I can't live without him, that's how much I got used to the CP.

Can you get the recipes in the studio? I also want something tasty and see what people are preparing in the processor, fantasy is not always enough

Admin, I haven't noticed anyone hysterically around yet. And I didn't say anything to you, as well as to the command post

Handing over to the store, of course, is impossible ... Technically sound equipment cannot be returned. And in fact, you can cook in it everything the same as in TM, just with inconveniences and small jambs, significant for me, but not for others ...
It is difficult for me, having TM, to force myself to cook in KP. I give it to my mother, in fact, for what it was acquired. I feel sorry for my mother, but changing with her also suffocates green, since the control room cannot be washed in the PMM, and soot from porridge is poorly washed, but I need porridge. Mom has other requirements for the CP - she will not cook porridge in it, maybe mashed soups, and creams with jam (I hope they still won't burn), and how to use it as a blender.

I wish you all culinary success, and that any unit you buy will only please you!

I've been using KP for about five years now, but for now I'll save up for TM and you look they will release TM41, woo, I'll buy it)))))

I've been using KP for about five years now, but for now I'll save up for TM and you look they will release TM41, woo, I'll buy it)))))

Mash, it is better to save up for Kenwood 080, if I am not mistaken in the numbering, it is still with induction heating, there the machine is many times more versatile, and beyond the cordon and several times cheaper))))

If you buy outside the cordon, then we will not be able to use the guarantee.

Why can't Orson be dishwasher safe? Or is it about the fact that soot will not be washed off? Yes, but it seems to me that you can wash in the car.

And once again I want to ask, why is it worse than a thermomix, except for questions about heating temperature and burning? I would not consider the design, it looks quite good. For me, this is more beautiful than a thermomix, there is a lot of plastic, for heating equipment it is somehow not very good.

In the instructions for the KP, no detail of the KP is clearly written in no case in the PMM, and the knives should almost be wiped with a gentle cloth, and not washed, so as not to damage some kind of rubber band.

As for the design, I agree - the KP looks more modern, IMHO - but it is precisely because of its design that functional inconveniences arise.In TM, the control panel is clearly visible from any angle, even if you look inside the bowl with one eye, and with the other at the control and at the same time smoothly turn the toggle switches for speed, temperature and time. In KP, in order to see or switch something, it is necessary to tilt each time so that the display is at eye level, I am already silent about the fact that sometimes during this time the product can be crushed almost into dust, since everything happens in seconds.

And the plastic you are talking about does not heat up in TM, but on the contrary protects against contact with a hot bowl. There, at any time, you can open the lid without the slightest effort and fear of getting burned. Weigh and add other ingredients without removing the bowl.

I do not want to unnecessarily excite other members of the forum with my "constant comparisons" anymore, so ask your questions either in a personal or in the topic about TM

And I think it was very interesting))) okay, now we will speak specifically about Orson))
Today I decided to boil rice. It turned out very well.
1 multi-glass was poured into the cooking basket. I poured water to close the rice by 2 fingers. Cooking mode 40 minutes.
After the rice has cooked, remove the basket and pour the water out of the bowl.
Take 1 large carrot and roughly chop for 5/10 sec.
Salt, add oil and sauté on the Cook mode 12 min. When there are 4 minutes left until the end, put the rice and stew together the rest of the time, yes, I added 50 ml (half a measuring cup) of chicken broth, or maybe some water so that the rice does not burn)) well

Please tell me, is that multi-glass in the lid?

And in 12 minutes the carrots with oil on the cooking mode did not burn at the bottom?

Please tell me, is that multi-glass in the lid?

This glass is 100 ml. When it comes to him. The onion will not burn if the temperature is low, the rotation speed of the mixers is there and is sautéed in oil)

You can use any container, it is important to know how much liquid is prescribed in the recipe itself

Please tell me, is that multi-glass in the lid?

And in 12 minutes the carrots with oil on the cooking mode did not burn at the bottom?

When I sauté carrots with onions, it never burns, but the rice stuck a little, but then I easily washed it.
If you are afraid, you can sauté for 100 g, and then when put the rice down, lower it by 90 g. All this can be done without disconnecting the CP

I bought this wonderful unit today. There was an opportunity to take Thermomix, but the toad strangled me.
For the test, I decided to do something as simple as to cook pasta. And the first impression was sharply negative - it is very noisy. At the minimum stirring speed (1), the sound of Oursson working can be heard even from neighbors. As far as I remember Thermomix at the presentation, at low revs it did not make so much noise.
Actually a question for those who have been using Oursson for a long time. Is it a defect of my copy, or is it really very noisy even at minimum speed?

Well he is noisy, but the meat grinder is noisier from Orson. When he works for me in the kitchen, I can't hear him in the next room.
I think you just felt like it did to me the first time.
Well, in general, you can return it within 2 weeks and take Thermomix, if it seemed to you that it works quieter))))

Very noisy. Fact. But on the Internet they write that the terromix also makes a terrible noise. There are discussions where there are a lot of negative reviews about the thermomix. It's just that the majority, having paid 50 thousand, praise him as under hypnosis, but there are a lot of other opinions, this is objective. Even on this good forum, I could not find why Orson is worse, except for what I myself noted as disadvantages. By the way, a young lady from Kazazstan was here, by the way, who also wrote that the semolina porridge in the thermomix sticks strongly.
The price difference is 3 times! Hence the decision.

Today I decided to cook steamed grain bread from the TM recipe book.
Naturally, the recipe was reduced for Orson by 330g

• Place flour, yeast, sugar, salt in a Bowl and stir for 10 sec / Sc. h.
flour (grain, higher
varieties or in a ratio of 1: 1) 420-450g
sugar 1 tablespoon
salt 1.5 tsp
warm water 250-270 ml
instant yeast 11 g '
Knead the dough 2 min / dough mode
boiling water 600 ml
• Add water.
• Place the dough on baking paper.
Shape into a bun or flatbread.
• Place the plate in the VAROMA Basket,
put baking paper with dough on a plate, wrap the edges of the paper to ensure free passage of steam.
• Pour boiling water into a Bowl, place VAROMA and steam 45 min / Varoma / Sk. one.
Note:
The slices of this bread are great for toasting.

Here are the pictures
During cooking


Ready bread


And this I browned it for 10 minutes in the airfryer, for a presentable look))


In the context, no, maybe just pulled out of the AG. Yes, I set the cooking time to 50 minutes, well, just in case)) And put pressed yeast 8 g

Well he is noisy, but the grinder is noisier from Orson. When he works for me in the kitchen, I cannot hear him in the next room.
I think you just felt like it did to me the first time.
Well, in general, you can return it within 2 weeks and take Thermomix, if it seemed to you that it works quieter))))

Unfortunately, I can hear it perfectly in the neighboring rooms. I’m unlikely to return it, but I was greatly disappointed that I cannot use it while the children are sleeping. Of course, I cannot guarantee that Thermomix was quieter. I "heard" it at the presentation and made dishes on it myself according to their recipes, but there was a larger room and there were about six people, perhaps because of this, it seemed less noisy.

It's just that the majority, having paid 50 thousand, praise him as under hypnosis, but there are a lot of other opinions, this is objective.
...
The price difference is 3 times! Hence the decision.

Yes, in fact, the decision has already been made. Moreover, in my case, the price difference was more than 4 times. We offer Thermomix for 55 thousand, and I took Oursson in the online store for 13 thousand.

Alex, you will not regret that you bought Orson, the main thing is to observe the volumes of products in it, since the Thermomix can process large volumes, and for Orson you need to reduce it.
This is the main note, but everything is the same)))