Lerele
And I'm grinding onions in a tapperware chopper, they are red. This is if it is very small. If bigger on an alligator 6. Both are washed with a simple rinse.
OgneLo
Quote: fffuntic
Of course if there is nothing
and it is not necessary if there is
Quote: fffuntic
filipok
or any other similar electric device
Nathalte
fffunticI never tire of wondering how different we are all
On the contrary, the spirals in the Korean carrot did not suit me, the shape is not the same.
And I love filly, despite not one such device. True, my harvester is not a Bosch, but also a fillet. Maybe we should try Boshik and fall in love too
Katerok87
Quote: fffuntic
Cubes. Today there is NO electrician that would give variety in cubes. Alas.

Quote: fffuntic
Therefore, there is still no electrical alternative to a mechanical alligator or graters with cubes.

Quote: fffuntic
with "quasi-cubes", they are like attachments for moulinex-meat grinders. Small sloppy parallelogram cubes. That is, you cannot do this on a festive table, for every day, well, as anyone.

Quote: fffuntic
For soup and preservation it is quite good, for salads already for everybody.
It turns out that you can have different cube cutters for guests, for example, the Alligator, cubes for everyday use Moulinex or the cubes attachment for the Selmer meat grinder. I would like to buy just a meat grinder with cubes because of the power, so that there is a hidden cabinet on the table, standing on the table top and opening the door upwards.

That is why I have a problem because of a cube cutter or a Mulinex meat grinder to choose some model more compact and to it a nozzle cubes or a Selmer meat grinder with such a nozzle.
Selmer is quieter, more compact, completely white, there is a carrying handle, lighter, wider mouth for serving vegetables, but the cube cutter itself confuses, because some are afraid to cut hard vegetables on it, others write that they are tearing fibrous carrots

Electric vegetable cutter
Moulinex is louder, but she has stainless steel knives. became self-sharpening, unlike Selmer, and if I understood correctly that a cube cutter from Mulinex is not afraid of hard vegetables? And not the correct shape of "cubes" for every day is not so important.
And I would also possibly buy some separate cube cutter with the correct shape of cubes separately for the blanks. How did I understand that Bosch is considered one of the ideal cube cutters?
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I don't like cutting with my hands AT ALL. Lazy. I prefer curved slices from the malyavka Moulinex than perfect hands on a sharp berner.


Natalia K.
Quote: Katerok87
but confuses the cube cutter for the Zelmer meat grinder itself
Correctly embarrassing. I had this cube cutter as soon as they appeared on sale. I got rid of her safely and was incredibly happy about it. Sooooo I didn't like it. Cubes, if you can call it cubes, turn out to be very terrible. This "cube cutter" crumples boiled vegetables, but there is no talk about boiled eggs. In general, I do not advise buying it, a waste of money.
an_domini
The cube cutter is good at Bosch. I have MSM 64085, everything is shoveled perfectly and very quickly. There is one peculiarity for boiled potatoes in Olivier salad. First you need to cool the potatoes well, you can put them in the refrigerator, for example, in the evening, and cut them in the morning. Then there will be good cubes. All other boiled vegetables are cut without problems.
To use such a combine is generally much more convenient in my opinion than small devices with attachments like meat grinders. I have this Ariette. Long ago I sent him to the country to rest, overgrown and unproductive.
And I practically do not remove Boshevsky from the table, there are many functions, it is easy to maintain.
fffuntic
I had a little girl Ariette - I can't stand her. My byaka was full, dull and uncomfortable.A little girl like her Mulinex served me up to the Boshik-blender faithfully for a long time. She's weak, with crooked slices, but I didn't need much for every day, in comparison with Arietta it is much more convenient, although they are very design-wise !! similar. Ease of assembly and washing, small size, covered its disadvantages.
But my cartoon is without quasi-cubes. I can't check out Mulinex crooks
The speed is not selectable and you cannot set it very small, that is, soft vegetables will crush without options. They must be cooked tight and cooled well.
Between the rub on the bosha / filipka and the rub on the malyavka moulinex - heaven and earth.

I do not pretend to be true, but it seems to me that rubbing on a cone or on horizontal knives gives a different quality of rubbing in favor of a horizontal position.
I can't praise the rub on the little one, and the photos on the forum from the multi-cutter Moulinex with straws and cubes look much neater.
Therefore, it is possible to find a "more efficient" meat grinder-vegetable cutter, but "more accurate", I deeply doubt it.
I don't have a dice / straw multi-cutter. But I'm not sure that the meat grinder-vegetable cutter will be more compact, but there are fewer functions and the accuracy of the rubbing is worse.
In general, if you need just the ease of assembly and type of rinsed, then a meat grinder or just a little one. Truncated. I don't see any more benefits.

A multi-cutter or blenders with a cube cutter function are more attractive in my eyes if you need a neat rub.

Crown
Quote: fffuntic
I do not pretend to be true, but it seems to me that rubbing on a cone or on horizontal knives gives a different quality of rubbing in favor of a horizontal position.
Perhaps, but in horizontal ones it is worse with the loss of the finished product and therefore the cubes / straws wrinkle more. I think if you help with a spoon in time, they will be more whole.
dopleta
Quote: fffuntic
But my cartoon is without quasi-cubes. I can't check out Mulinex crooks
I can, I had both Ariette and Mulya - cubes are the same fig.




Quote: fffuntic
rubbing on a cone or on horizontal knives gives a different quality of rub in favor of a horizontal position.
Yes, it is, I also wrote about it.
Katerok87
Does Bosch have cubes of only one size? And if Bosch needs an Alligator?
an_domini
Bosch has one size as standard for salad, but you can additionally buy a larger one. Right now, in the topic about MUM 5, the girls are discussing this. The attachments for vegetable cutters are the same for MUM and MSM.
I will not say anything about the Alligator, it is mechanical, therefore, in principle, I am not interested. But two sizes of cubes from Bosch are enough for everything.
fffuntic
Quote: Katerok87

Does Bosch have cubes of only one size? And if Bosch needs an Alligator?
9mm and 12mm neat cubes, but is it enough? this is a question for you. How relevant is it to you, is it these sizes?
blenders with cubes have Phillips and the sea unplowed how much cheap.
MSM 64085 is a combine, with knives, without the function of a kneader-creamer.
there are MUM - harvesters, a series with cubes and kneaders.

The Bosch of a small blender (MSM series) with cubes has its drawbacks in the form of an ugly gear cover, you need to hold the button when working.

These cubes immediately create selection problems. As a vegetable cutter full of normal small models, but no cubes.

an_domini
Wrong!
MCM 64085 also has a special plastic knife for dough and a beater attachment for milk cream and meringue. By the way, it whips cream better and faster than the planetary Bosch 86. I make the dough for muffins in it. And the yeast dough is in MUM 86 (I have both of them, so I can compare as much as I like).
Svetlenki
Quote: an_domini
Wrong!
MCM 64085 also has a special plastic knife for dough and a beater attachment for milk cream and meringue. By the way, it whips cream better and faster than the planetary Bosch 86.

Olga, with all due respect, when it comes to whipping cream aka the preparation of patisier cream, about the correct CONFECTIONERY technology, then all the same the processor, uh ... it's not the right device. Therefore, I would not throw such categorical statements in relation to whipping cream.

Suddenly you will be interested in technology from one of the world-renowned confectioners.

an_domini
This is not at all a categorical statement, but simply personal experience. I'm not a professional pastry chef, I whip cream and meringue for cakes for the holiday. If you are interested, my daughter-in-law is just a professional pastry chef, she works in a restaurant and makes cakes to order, for this she has a professional pranetary, in general, works like a beast.
But having MSM 64085 and MUM 86 at home, I naturally whipped cream in both. Until I had MSM, I did it in MUM 86, everything was fine with me, I'm not saying that the planetary mixer MUM 86 does not whip cream well.
But with a whisk in MSM 64085, I get it really faster, the quality does not suffer.
OgneLo
By the way, now there are good discounts on the Oursson HB6070 Hand Blender (with cubes) [in three colors HB6070 / GA, HB6070 / OR, HB6070 / RD, respectively] 600W, plastic bowl 1.2L, stepless speed control





Katerok87
Quote: fffuntic
9mm and 12mm neat cubes, but is it enough? this is a question for you. How relevant is it to you, is it these sizes?
I'm not a very experienced cook, so I have no idea what sizes I need. I want to consult with you girls where do 9 and 12 mm usually go?
Quote: fffuntic
blenders with cubes have Phillips and the sea unplowed how much cheap.
I don't want to blender, because you have to hold the button while working, MUM also disappears, I tend to Kenwood, because you can knead any dough
Quote: an_domini
MSM 64085
I liked this harvester by design. It happens with a minimum set, but for a cube attachment to fit?
Crown
Quote: Katerok87
Where do 9 and 12 mm cubes usually fit?
In my opinion, the optimal set, for a salad vinaigrette, I would prefer 8 mm, but 9 will ride, and 12 is good for vegetables for stews or hodgepodge and for canned salad.
By the way:
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Quote: glykoza from Yesterday at 13:52
12 mm is probably good for fruit salad.
glykoza, yes, but also a super thing for vegetables. For blanks, for sote, for stew, for ratatouille.
Katerok87
Quote: CroNa
In my opinion, the optimal set, for a salad vinaigrette, I would prefer 8 mm, but 9 will ride, and 12 is good for vegetables for stews or hodgepodge and for canned salad.
Thank you!
The Bosch 9 and 12 mm Alligator has 3 × 3 and 6 × 6 mm in addition to the Bosch. 6x6 where, for example, will fit?
Masha Ivanova
For me, for example, salad like Olivier will be the most delicious when cut 6 by 6 mm. I can eat larger ones from others, but without any pleasure. And such a cut, believe me, is loved by many. And 3 by 3, so this is for onions, garlic and the like.
Crown
Quote: Katerok87
6 × 6 where, for example, fits?
I don’t know, it’s too small for me, I would fit the size of peas - 7-8 mm, and grind 3x3 onions or cabbage for minced meat, and such an onion will go into a salad if the machine does not crush it.
Masha Ivanova
Yes, here everyone has their own preferences! Therefore, each owner chooses the right device for himself, for his family. There are many of us. And everyone has their own tastes.
I just wanted to say that for every size of cutting, cubes, there will always be those willing.
fffuntic
Katerok87, you know what. Take an ordinary knife and grater from mom. Cook the old fashioned way. And decide how many carrots you need per day and for a holiday, whether you will grate for soup every day, or a lot once a week. Pay attention to which grater sizes are relevant for you. Do you need salads for every day and which ones? Make a vinaigrette a couple of times for the family and measure your favorite cubes. Measure out potato cubes for soup. Make the cubes bigger and smaller, see the difference for you.
Buy a store stew or try mom's canning, pay attention to the slicing. Decide on your favorite option.
Do you need a large food processor if you want to chop one onion?

In general, no one !!!! will not decide for you what is best for you. Decide on the scope of work, decide on the size. Go to the store and check out the bowls and sizes on the harvesters. Think, you can keep the bandura on the table, or are going to carry it back and forth.
Consult your mother (she knows your tastes), mother-in-law (knows her husband's tastes).
And then choose.
Katerok87
All the same, we like the smaller cubes.
Quote: an_domini
I have MSM 64085, everything is shoveled perfectly and very quickly.
Olga, and this harvester copes with dumplings dough?
an_domini
I do not make yeast and dumplings dough in MSM, because I still have a powerful Bosch 86 for kneading. In MSM I make dough for muffins and shortbread. Chopping flour and butter, by the way, is very quick and easy in MSM.

But on the forum, if I remember correctly, there is a dumpling dough without kneading in 21 seconds! (dough for dumplings with knives in a food processor) + video by Doxy, just kneaded in a food processor with knives. MSM 64085 has the same knife. Look!

Of course, no kitchen machine can solve absolutely all problems, but you can choose for yourself what suits you best.
Dough and bread makers are also kneaded on dumplings. I have Panasonic (two: 255 and 2502) also copes well with this. So if there is HP, then it is possible in it.
Niarma
blender SCARLETT IS-HB44K01 has 6mm cube size, but its advantages end there - fragile plastic
Crown
Quote: an_domini
Dough and bread makers are also kneaded on dumplings. I have Panasonic (two: 255 and 2502) also copes well with this. So if there is HP, then it is possible in it.
They knead, but if you often knead steep dumplings dough in HP, then not every mechanism will withstand this, the bucket can fly. I'm sorry to strain my own on such a test, I also began to chop it with knives on my Redmond.
Katerok87
Quote: Niarma
blender SCARLETT IS-HB44K01 has 6mm cube size, but its advantages end there - fragile plastic
Well, how does he at least perform this function?




Quote: CroNa
if you often knead steep dumplings dough in HP, then not every mechanism will withstand this, the bucket can fly
She kneads 800 W for her mother-in-law HP Bork, but if the dough for dumplings is already too heavy for her to roll out the dough for dumplings. You don't want HP yourself, because you don't like bread from it.
Niarma
The employee seems to be happy with the cubes, but she mostly uses graters, and at the base where the graters' disks are inserted, a pin has already broken off, glued, but how long will it last ... By cubes, if I need to clarify.
Katerok87
The reviews also write that it quickly breaks down and heats up.
I was hooked by the existence of 6 mm in an electric grocery cutter and when I watched Scarlett I saw that Phillips had additional attachments of three types of cubes, in the other picture there are four of them, but nowhere can I find what size of cubes it turns out?

Electric vegetable cutter

OgneLo
Quote: Katerok87
what is the size of the cubes?
the main (the one that comes with the kit) HR1669:
Quote: julifera
cells in the lattice are not centimeter, but 9x9 mm
additional (can be purchased separately from the service center) HR7968:
Quote: Lera-7
One lattice is 0.75x0.75 (cm), the second is 1.5x1.5 (cm), the third is an equilateral triangle with a side of 1.4cm.
from the photo, from left to right, the size of the central holes, in mm:
15×15; 9×9; 7.5 x 7.5; 14 × 14; ejector for 15 × 15 and 7.5 × 7.5 - one, common; for 9 × 9 and 14 × 14 - each has its own pusher.
Katerok87
OgneLoMarina, are there different sizes of cutter attachments for your Phillips electric cutters?
Quote: OgneLo
from the photo, from left to right, the size of the central holes, in mm
Are the extreme holes fully used during cutting? As I understand it, the mesh is on top, and at the bottom, a straight knife cuts the columns into cubes, and the vegetable mainly falls on the central part of the mesh?
OgneLo
Katerok87, I have - HR1669 and all additional grilles with pushers that came in the additional set HR7968 were purchased for it
Electric vegetable cutterElectric vegetable cutter
(I also bought handles for each new pusher - it's more convenient for me)
Electric vegetable cutter
holes work all over the entire plane of the receiving hole ...
the mesh stands at the bottom, and above it, the knife cuts off part of the product fed from the top. The knife is set at an angle and with its plane pushes the cut product layer through the grate ...
Using the example of a similar Cutters for Philips HR1999 blenders
Electric vegetable cutter
Nathalte
Marinawhere are the bars going? What do you use it for and is it convenient? My dream is simple
OgneLo
I cut everything with them and for everything: in Olivier, and in soup, and in preparations, and in other salads, and hot greens (when a lot of greens are fried or a feather of onions in an onion filling), and apples-pears in a charlotte (we love when there are a lot of apples-pears in a charlotte and they are finely chopped and mixed with the dough) ... Very convenient and fast.

Katerok87
Does the cube cutter only go to the blender? Phillips also has combine harvesters like Bosch with a compact motor underneath.





Only the blender has the cubes sorted out
Katerok87
I found such a video compared to vegetable cutters

OgneLo
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Found
this can in no way be called a comparison, since there are too different characteristics of devices, a set of functions and their target groups of consumers.
The 7605 shows a complete set that has not been supplied for a long time - the disc for potato pancakes stopped coming in the kit until 2004, if not until 2000 - I bought a new one in 2004, there were already two graters and a shredder (and in the old one there were for potato pancakes, a grater and shredder) ...
It is foolish to compare, for example, a 5-liter multicooker with a 2-liter pressure cooker or a pressure cooker and a slow cooker ... And here they almost "compare" ...
This is just some very cursory overview of random devices ...
Niarma
Quote: OgneLo
The 7605 shows a complete set that has not been supplied for a long time - the disc for potato pancakes stopped coming in the kit until 2004, if not until 2000 - I bought a new one in 2004, there were already two graters and a shredder (and in the old one there were for potato pancakes, a grater and shredder) ...
strange ... I bought mine in 2015 (new) and it has a grater for potato pancakes
OgneLo
Quote: Niarma
and he has
good if returned
I bought additional potato pancakes through the service
Katerok87
Quote: fffuntic
Still, it would be better if you indicated what exactly you are still interested in. Don't you have a meat grinder?
There is no meat grinder, therefore, I tend to the option of a meat grinder + a cube attachment, but I'm not sure that the size of the cubes is suitable for workpieces, for example, cubes can turn out there not in cubes, but porridge, then another device with a large cube is needed, for example, a cube cutter attachment to Kenwood, but again, of the minuses, it seems to me that 1.2 cm cubes are too big. Therefore, the second option is Bosch plus a meat grinder. The first option attracts more, since a meat grinder with a small on the tray takes up less space, quickly wash and immediately into the bowl, you can get a bulky Kenwood attachment once a year for large volumes. And a manual cube cutter.
Quote: fffuntic
Meat grinder with cubes, depending on which one. The mules have very specific cube attachments. They are very different from cubes in other units.
Moulinex me 730 likes the shape and the fact that it is white. Power is not so important, the shape of the cubes is fine.
fffuntic
Katerok87,
1. Choosing a meat grinder is not easy. In fact, for me, minced meat is not the same in every meat grinder. I personally have a domestic meat grinder breeze with saber knives and you get a very juicy minced meat. I tried domestic and foreign meat grinders with friends and I like mine more: quieter and juicier. Although, first of all, I haven't tried ALL meat grinders, and Brizka has a minus: if not looked after, the grates and knives can rust. That is, not ideal, but it is functionally very comfortable.
Therefore, fig knows how the mulka in the minced meat behaves. This point must be properly clarified with the owners.
2. In meat grinders, rubbing on round drums is always more sloppy than disc vegetable cutters. Well, I see you have a bullet, that is, this function is already overridden.
3. Well, cubes, here you can figure it out without me. But what to combine them with? With a meat grinder - see its main function first, will the quality of the mince suit you?
and if with a combine? That is also by function. What will you cook in the main bowl with knives?
Do you need minced meat with knives in a large bowl? is this type of minced meat needed? And then you will not be interested in confectionery and you definitely will not need a good confectionery mixer?

To be honest, the dough mixer mum then with cubes is much more attractive for me. A blender can be purchased in addition of a small size.
Katerok87
Quote: fffuntic
What will you cook in the main bowl with knives?
Probably nothing, because the plans include a kitchen machine, but not Bosch.
Quote: fffuntic
Do you need minced meat with knives in a large bowl? is this type of minced meat needed?
Not needed for cutlets.
Quote: fffuntic
domestic meat grinder breeze with saber knives and a very juicy minced meat is obtained.
If you can cook minced meat like a Ninja blender, then I think the meat grinder disappears or, by definition, this is not possible
Then there remains the manual cube cutter and the Kenwood dice attachment.





But again, in the attachment to Kesha, the size of the cubes is confusing.
Or a hand blender with cubes because of the cubes and mixer.
fffuntic
Katerok87, I have no kenwood and no ninzi either. Therefore, the answer is approximate. Ninja is a blender, not a meat grinder. The principle of grinding is souffle-like, and in the meat grinder it is piecewise. That is, the minced meat is different in theory. Although for sausages, minced meat from a meat grinder is specially interrupted in a combine for souffle.
Therefore, you try the minced meat from the blender and from the meat grinder separately in cutlets and check it out. The sophisticated housewives usually have a meat grinder and a blender, but what to choose in a single copy .. and fig knows, you need to be guided by your taste.
In the cache, it seems like large cubes? or I'm wrong? go ask around as follows in the subject.
And the cache is kind of like a monster harvester, is there a powerful blender there too? or I'm wrong? as if with the cache you also need a ninja?

In general, most likely be ready to fork out, most likely, for each need separately.
Perhaps the cubes will have to be solved separately due to the difficulties with the sizes, but so that the boiled one is cut.
Katerok87
Quote: fffuntic
In the cache, it seems like large cubes? go ask around as follows in the subject.
1.2 cm, yes, you probably really need to ask around there)))
Quote: fffuntic
And the cache is kind of like a monster harvester, is there a powerful blender there too?
Ninja more powerful than 1500 watts
Quote: fffuntic
as if with the cache you also need a ninja?
If you buy Ninja, then Kesha is without a blender and a food processor, because Ninza has both a blender and food, but more powerful and another plus is that Ninja has it all at the bottom, and Kesha at the top, so it will often have to be moved from under the cabinet.
Quote: fffuntic
Perhaps the cubes will have to be solved separately due to the difficulties with the sizes, but so that the boiled one is cut.
Thank you !!!
Svetlenki
Quote: Katerok87
1500 watt

How strange it is to hear these numbers ... Just yesterday I looked again and dreamed of Robot Coupe. Serious professional, designed to work at catering establishments. Only the stars are higher. He has 500. Why manufacturers mislead us, it's not clear

Katerok87, I'm not reproaching you. It is clear that this information is provided by the manufacturer. You just don't have to put it at the forefront when choosing
Katerok87
Quote: Svetlenki
You just don't have to put it at the forefront when choosing
Svetlenki, Sveta, I don't need the most powerful one, I meant that the Ninja is more powerful than the Kenwood attachment)))




Quote: Katerok87
1.2 cm, yes, you probably really need to ask around there)))
Clarified
cube in Kenwood 1cm. Not 1.2.
Depending on the vegetable, it turns out 0.9 or when boiled. If raw and then boiled for steam, it boils down to 0.8-0.9 exactly, 1 never works.
k.alena
Of course, I did not master the whole topic, and the search did not give me anything. Does someone have a Tefal MB905834 multi-cutter? Are you satisfied? Absolutely similar model to Moulinex DJ905 Fresh Express Cube & Stick. Due to her age, it is already difficult for mom to cut and use Berner. Therefore, I am looking for an electric assistant Electric vegetable cutter
Rita
k.alena, I don't have it, but when I wanted to buy it, the reviews were contradictory, but many are satisfied. They say you can't grate raw beets.
k.alena
Well, everything in this world is not reliable. In my Bosch MC812M865 harvester, which cuts into cubes, when rubbing carrots, the grater disc holder broke, although I did not press on the carrots, but only held them. For mom, rub, cut in small quantities, for daily cooking. I hope it will meet expectations, although the price for it is space

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