fffuntic
This means that now there is no electrical appliance that will fulfill the set requirements.

Bosch with cubes. The sizes of the cubes are 0.9 and 12 mm. Have mules in my opinion 0.8, if I'm not mistaken. But below 0.8 there is no electrical appliance with cubes.
The cubes are normal, but of this size.

There is no device for 0.5 mm cube and 0.1 mm cube.

The entrance of electrical appliances is very narrow, so vegetables are served vertically, and not along their length, long strings of Korean carrots are also impossible, like long strings of cabbage.
Filka and Bosch have sliced-julienne, it's just like a Korean carrot, but only if you don't cut the long side, but the short one.
That is, such short pieces.

About the slices. Very soft vegetables, such as ordinary tomatoes, the harvester remembers.
Cut the onion into slices. But the thickness there is a little more than 1 mm and 2-3 mm, two fixed thicknesses.

There is one harvester - at the Phillips, a large one, there is an adjustable nozzle - a slicer. You can make thin slices on it. But there are no cubes at all.

As for slicing, this is for a big fan. This is not an automatic machine, but a semiautomatic device, there you need to move the handles a lot, but yes - the slicing is neat. But I didn't like the process at all))), I completely refused the slicer. This is not an automatic machine.
Look on YouTube how they cut on a slicer.

All requirements can only be fulfilled on a Berner - which is not at all a harvester. And the cubes on the alligator - which is not a combine at all, but again they will be 6 mm, 9 mm, 11 mm, well, on a small lattice of 3 mm, you won't go far, too inconvenient for blanks.

However, of all the small cubes, only the alligator (nisers) have 6 mm and are very comfortable.

The harvester will be very useful if the requirements are reduced. Think about the above dimensions suit you?


Mirabel
Elvira, I fully subscribe to the above. You won't be able to meet the purchase of one assistant to satisfy all your needs. Moreover, vegetable cutters are not for a large scale. We'll have to take breaks from work. Well, small cubes of raw vegetables, most likely only the Alligator will scribble.
Elvira75
Thank you very much to everyone who responded!
I understand perfectly well that this will not be one unit.
And the size of the cube is not 0.1 * 0.1, but 1 cm by 1 cm - well, it is clear that plus / minus a millimeter or two.
Why I decided to write my question in such detail. I kind of already understood that the optimal combination is a Bosch cube and a moulinex, plus a couple of graters.
BUT then I noticed that these vegetable cutters have low power and they can work for 3 minutes with a break of 10 minutes, also in pulse mode. So I wondered if they could withstand my load?
- That is, it is logical for me to take an iron alligator for cutting everything raw into cubes - but there you still have to make pretty serious efforts with your hands, I understand correctly, raw carrots, for example, with one click to cut.
Plus Berner - rubbing his hands again)) It turns out that the most multifunctional unit in the kitchen is still a woman)))

Mirabel
Elvira, why do you need Moulinex, if Bosch will be? In my opinion, then Philips is already the best for cutting straws

dopleta
And I (taking into account the fact that Elvira needs to be planed in industrial volumes) will support Ilmirushka, the most suitable IMHO for this purpose is Bosch, but with a "but" - it will not work to cut different cubes for carrots and eggplants, a cube = 9x9 cm. And tomatoes he cuts into slices, does not crush. And cut into strips, but not long.
Admin
Quote: Elvira75
I make a lot of blanks and I need to: cut into cubes

For preparations in the winter, I specially hold a Phillips vegetable cutter, with a nozzle in cubes. Very helpful

Here you can see the quality of cutting vegetables

Electric vegetable cutterEggplant caviar (for every day and preservation for the winter)
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For workpieces, a grater with Berner attachments is still optimal for me - it does an excellent job. For preforms in cans and for drying in a dryer

And in other cases, for every day - for me it is better with pens, the volumes are not large, otherwise it takes longer to disassemble and wash the equipment

Elvira75
Admin, I completely agree with you - it does not bother me with pens every day)
Do you have Phillips -1388? Will he cope with 7-10 kg of fresh vegetables at a time? (It seems to have a capacity of only 200 indicated)

Fffuntic - it's generally a disaster with half rings of green tomatoes (
Admin
Quote: Elvira75
Phillips -1388?

I have a Phillips ProMix Titanium with a "cubes" attachment
I keep it only for summer preparations.

Takes well and quickly. True, you have to periodically open and clean the bowl of already ground raw materials. I open it and pour it into a bowl - this is normal. Nobody has come up with a bucket-sized food processor bowl yet

In one go, I cook about a 7-liter pot. More on gas does not work, it is not advisable, it will take a long time and may not completely boil - the burners are small.
While this caviar is stewing, I polish and cut a batch of vegetables.
tascha
And who uses the Zelmer meat grinder attachment? Are you satisfied, no?
Admin
Quote: tascha

And who uses the Zelmer meat grinder attachment? Are you satisfied, no?

Disgusting nozzle I'm sorry I bought
Suitable simply for cutting vegetables into pieces of different sizes, for large quantities of salad. But, not even cubes.
Niarma
Quote: Elvira75
about 0.5 * 0.5cm
will not work; at least 0.6x0.6 and that is of a nightmarish quality (Scarlett hb44k03), mainly cubes 0.8-0.9 cm. Slices of different thicknesses (2 discs) will be cut by Philips HR 1388, he also has a julienne grater (like Korean). But the cabbage ... Probably just a harvester. It seems that you can buy additional graters for Bosch (but it's easier to ask the owners)
SoNika
I am happy with the mule, as well as the cheese grater, thanks to those who advised. Elvira, you watch the video, it is "home" and immediately decide what suits you best
Mirabel
Quote: SoNika
like a cheese grater
What is your cheese grater?
SoNika
VikaI'm afraid you, it will not suit you, because it is rechargeable, and it rubs finely, finely cheese (chips), chocolate, Ariete GRATI nuts
Mirabel
Virine, why not? very finely rubbing? I saw this on sale .. and I doubt it ...
Ilmirushka
Vika, I have the same, they are noticeable by the fact that they come in two colors - orange and green. I like the grater, in the sense of how it rubs, but it's unusual that it needs to be charged, it's somehow more accustomed to work with just electric things, or just manual ones, but maybe you just need to get used to it and put it on charge in advance.
Mirabel
Ilmira, yeah! understandably!
gawala
Quote: Ilmirushka
come in two colors - orange and green.
I have an orange one. Lying around is unclaimed, and even Martochka managed to gnaw the wires, but it's not scary .. they bandaged the wire ..
Quote: Ilmirushka
it is more usual to work simply by hand,
Exactly .. I tried so many things, what I didn’t throw away, and as a result returned to the usual grater, though I bought a grater a little better than usual. But I rub very little of everything, so it’s tame for me.
SoNika
Vika, we are all different, I like it, someone does not ... who loves Phillips, who is Zelmer, who is a mulyu ... It is difficult to advise, so I ask here, and then I watch the video ... and I filter out




Galina, hello, it has been a long time
gawala
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hello, it has been a long time
Why? Always a combat post. Hello!
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SoNika
Galina, apparently in different themes we inhabit,

I was all with the airfryer, the vacuum cleaner, I was running around, I got busy with tartlets, now the sous-vide is waiting for testing, but I’m not torn for something yet ... I’m somehow on the run, but I dream of the GFGril GFA-3500 Air Fryer Airfryer, I’m still waiting for baby will be on sale, this is my last wish for now

, but happy with a grater, only after chocolate it is not easy to wash.
gawala
Quote: SoNika
I am satisfied with a grater, only after the chocolate it is not easy to wash.
There is only one varinat, do not rub the chocolate and do not eat it at all ..
Ilmirushka
Virine, It is he? Something just one review and that is not very good.
SoNika
Galina, eat, but not grated
Ilmira, Yes,

here in the subject and in ozone I read reviews, there are a lot of videos ...

tascha
SoNika,
Quote: SoNika
Rubs finely, finely cheese (chips), chocolate, Ariete GRATI nuts
even soft cheese? Kostroma, Russian?
Mirabel
Quote: SoNika
I like it, some don't ..
PPKS!
I lost the Moulinex grinder when I was moving .. just grate chocolate on a small grater is not very good, so I choose,
Girls, what do you think is more convenient from the following?

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SoNika
tascha, do not grate the soft shavings, if only freeze them .., and for what from the soft shavings? And then immediately for macaros ... mmm, or chocolate. I just rub a lot at once and into the freezer.




Vika, I won't tell you about the lower mill, because there wasn’t one, and I don’t want to ... I don’t trust, there is a similar one with three different rollers, it suits me, I won’t say that it’s super, but better than fingers on a grater, wash, easy to disassemble, even rubbing crab sticks.
Mirabel
Virine, Yes Yes! I lost the same ... I just thought maybe the second one is cooler.

oyue what to buy

Lera-7
Quote: Mirabel
Girls, what do you think is more convenient from the following?
Until you try Vika yourself, you will hardly understand which one will be more convenient for you. There was Dekok (as in the first link), which was not very convenient for me. But according to the principle of a grater on the second link, I liked it more. But I only rub nuts and chocolate on it, for cheese I have Moulinex. I have this

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SoNika
Vika, buy both, so as not to suffer, suddenly the second will be better.
gawala
Quote: Mirabel
, maybe the second is cooler.
Gefu looked

Electric vegetable cutter
SoNika
Galina,
dopleta
Electric is more convenient for me, although there is a manual one
Electric vegetable cutter

In general, we have a special theme.
Mirabel
Virine,

especially since both are not very expensive and not large

SoNika
Vika, choose what you like .. and a gift to friends, if, what is
fffuntic
Elvira... Returning to the question on the combine.
1. On YouTube, it makes sense to look at each unit in operation and its dimensions.
So none of them cuts vegetables to length. Only on the short side.

Hence, mule.
It has only one 0.8 mm cube, but there is also a 0.8 mm thick straw.
The slicing is rather coarse, as far as I understood, for soft vegetables. Tomatoes are not thin slices. Boiled vegetables must also be pre-cooled strongly (this is actually true for all combines).
The rest of the graters are carrot, are of medium size.

The slices are also medium in size.
Vegetable processing speed is average.

I had a bosh mum and a filipka on my hands. Therefore, I give their sizes.

So the Bosch Mum combine is big. Very big. A real harvester in size. With a vegetable cutter attachment and a cube cutter - a piece that requires space. The power is good, the speed is high.
It is not difficult to wash afterwards, but you cannot say that you want to do it every day. Bulky details.
Cubes in two sizes 0.8 mm and 12 mm. In old deliveries, a 12 mm mesh must be purchased separately, and this is an extra piece.
No straws.
There are a wide variety of graters, BUT: as a rule, the standard delivery is too thin.
A medium-sized grater or for a julienne you have to buy extra money - that's a lot of money, about 1000 now for each. The graters are spicy, so the slicing is more delicate than soft foods than Muli and Phillips.
You also need to buy a disc for potato pancakes.
In the standard delivery, there are usually no discs: for potato pancakes, medium grater, julienne disc. Disc julienne (Korean carrot) is interchangeable with a medium-sized grater. But on julienne, of course, more square edges.
Cut into slices in two sizes 1mm and 3mm.

I saw a Bosch, which is not a mum mixer, but an msm, which is easier to assemble and smaller in size, but the cubes and discs in them are the same.
For ease of assembly, it is more convenient than Mum, more compact.

Now the Bosch blender, which is small.
The power is high, but you have to hold the button with your finger while working. Kettle-sized. Every day is more convenient than a large harvester.
BUT: the top cover is very lousy. It cannot be washed. At all. Very uncomfortable.
Secondly, when working, you need to rest the unit. It's still not a full-fledged combine for you. But, if done carefully, it will perfectly cut a bunch of vegetables.
Cubes are 9 mm and 13 mm in size. Slices 1 and 3 mm, grater - just medium. You need to buy a small one (if needed), there is a disk for a potato pancake.
There is no julienne disc in principle, that is, there will be no Korean gourmet carrots. Although the main grater is almost like a julienne in size, but round.
Somewhere on the forum there were pictures of rubbing.
Bosch is very similar to phillips blender with cubes... Also, you can not wash the lid, holding the button.
You should ask Tanya (Admin) for the peculiarities of a phillips with cubes, there are slightly different sizes for cubes, 0.8 mm and some other ones in additional delivery. Well, the graters with slices for all filipki are the same in size.

Filipok is a vegetable cutter. There are no cubes.
This one has slices of 1.2 and 2.4 mm, a julienne disc is included in the delivery. Grater.
No, and it's very difficult to get one - a disc for potato pancakes. There is also a very large grater for carrots in nature, which is also extremely difficult to get.
Coarser cutting than Bosch for soft vegetables. But a very convenient unit in the assembly. Wash quickly, takes up little space, quiet.
However, it also requires a more careful attitude than any combine.

Filipkov also have a large gap between the graters and the serving of the vegetable. The remains are larger than those of Bosch. Not that it is very critical, but it is observed.
The most interesting thing: not everyone likes the largest slices of all combines for sauerkraut - they are too thin.
And only filipka combines have adjustable slices

Philips Essence series
like this
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there are full of different types of graters and adjustable slicing.

Filipka differs from a vegetable cutter only in the absence of a julienne grater. Alas, you can get her figs.

This means that I have a Bosch blender with cubes working now. But due to the fact that it is impossible to fully wash the top cover there, I cannot really praise this model.
But if the dimensions are not fundamental, then still, in terms of the quality of performance, great family, I would choose a Bosch combine. If the presence of a mixer is not fundamental, mum is a very large unit - but there is a planetary mixer, also a gorgeous thing, but msm.
I would buy a medium grater or julienne. There is practically everything that others have ... except for the perfect coarse slices of cabbage and straws, like a mule.
But the mule is still not sharpened for heavy loads and they are slower, the mule's knives are not so sharp.

An assembly of two large filipok and bosch combines would cover 99 needs, apart from a small cube and neat straw. If there is a pantry and money, then ..
By the way, these are old models, you can buy inexpensively on the same Avito + julienne for Bosch, it is possible to buy an even larger grid of 12 mm if needed.
A small cube and straw is already an aligator (nyser), but this is not an automatic device. The thing is convenient, but not for handling carrots over 14 kg. Although it will be even harder manually.

And also, if there is money, that is, branded Kenwood and others like him. There is so much there. All sorts of extras and nozzles. Perhaps it is worth looking there too.
I don't have Kenwood and never have. And here we are in the subject of vegetable cutters, not harvesters. Therefore, it may be worth asking in the topic on Kenwoods and other professional units like Kitchen.








Elvira75
Fffuntic, thank you very much for such details!
The fact of the matter is that I did not plan to buy a combine for cutting once a year, albeit a large number of different vegetables. Therefore, I thought about a vegetable cutter. And they, as luck would have it, one cuts into a cube, the other in half rings))))
For several days I have been sitting on the yu-tube, studying the topics here. Until a decision was not just ripe in my head, but rather the opposite, everything became even more confused

The Bosch MUM combine, by the way, attracted me. But I read the reviews in the Yandex market and became sad
fffuntic
I asked the same questions

, but did not consider expensive professional devices due to their cost. They may be fabulously comfortable, though.
I wanted for every day and with high performance in case of holidays and supplies.
First I bought a bosh mum5 with cubes. Imagine a bandura that is 30 x 30 and with a full assembly height of half a meter.
You will not carry it. It should be on the table and near the washstand for convenience. Otherwise, you will admire it from the shelf.
The vegetable cutter-cube cutter attachment is easy to clean, but there are a lot of parts and they are large. They must be washed and wiped again.
If the family is small, then it's too lazy to do it.
If you cook a large amount every day, then the effort will pay off.

The mixer turned out to be relevant to me. For his sake, I am not lazy to pull out and put the bandura on the table. But a mixer is a mixer.

But for every day I'm lazy to make soup in it. Keep on the table constantly - there is no way.

Therefore, I began to look towards small units for every day.
I bought a vegetable cutter. She is good for everyone, but rubs more roughly than Bosch and there is no cube. But the charm is julienne. I visually like this polish.
I bought a disk for potato pancakes on Avito from other combines)))
There was not enough cube. But I had a nice diser, and then they gave me an alligator.
A very convenient thing for every day to cook in small quantities. Collect and wash - no problem.
And for salad - pickling cabbage, well, the size of the slices does not suit me there. I make cabbage by hand on a mandolin. That is, it is tolerable, if without complaints. But by hand it tastes better to me. Although, if in large volumes, then I do it on bosha.

In general, the thought stuck: I want a small Bosch.
In general, I bought a Bosch blender.
Honey. I like. BUT: collecting it is not two movements. And most importantly, I wipe this cover with all due respect and get annoyed all the time.
Better in functionality, a filipka vegetable cutter, but incomparably worse in terms of washing.
And further. Despite the fact that there is a large chopper there, I do not make raw meat there precisely because the lid cannot be washed properly afterwards, only those products that do not spit and which need to be washed very well.
The fact that there is no julienne there is not scary, very beautiful rubbing on a grater.
Well, take care of it.

Probably, it is this unit for today made of electric for every day I like the most. Two types of cubes, neat rub. Cabbage for pickling 3 mm - tolerable.
If you use it carefully, you can make blanks.
It will be slightly less convenient than on a large combine. Rather, to be honest, it is less convenient, but incomparable with manual work.
Tanya (Admin) uses the same filipok for blanks. In principle, her filipok is almost my Boshik. I'm only afraid that my Boshik has the sizes of slicers I like better. 1 and 3 mm versus 1.2 and 2.4 mm.

That is, for me, the solution to the issue of automation in the kitchen is decided in favor of the Bosch-Filipok-blender. Cheaper analogs break faster.
+ something necessarily like a 6 mm alligator.
From mum5 I left only the mixer, got rid of the nozzle))), from the film too.

BUT .. if it is possible to install the harvester on a table without dragging it out of the closet near the washstand, then perhaps I would have stopped only at mum5 and an alligator for every day.
A harvester is a harvester. It is more productive and more durable. There is a mixer ... and other nice things. And in msm there is no mixer, but there is a rub for berries, a wonderful chopper






what mum specifically dislikes? I love my mixer dearly




although there is another budget option: mulka with a cube + bosch 4 normal, without a cube - for julienne and cabbage, a mixer (it is the cheapest) from my mother. Practically the same as the 5 with its notorious increased power. But if there is a place in the kitchen
well alligator by 6 mm
Ilmirushka
Quote: Elvira75
The Bosch MUM combine, by the way, attracted me. But I read the reviews in the Yandex market and became sad
Elvira, and what kind of reviews are there that caused sadness? I have Bosch in a good set, graters + citrus juicer + meat grinder + blender, I have been using it for several years and I love it very much.
Niarma
It is generally more convenient to cut cabbage into blanks with Burner - you do not need to adjust the pieces to the size of the loading hole (I still saw an electric shredder for cabbage on Avito).
dopleta
The entrance hole in the Boche-cube is along the wide side, if you put the carrots on its side, as much as 7.5 cm - well, not super long, but still quite suitable for a Korean one. And half of the onion is quite normal in size.
Electric vegetable cutter
I'm for him. I have it for eight years, and works in the tail and mane flawlessly.
SoNika
Lena, fffuntic, hello, my mule is cutting into strips.
Mirabel
Quote: Niarma
generally it is more convenient to cut with Burner
but for me, an armless one, this process is not convenient. Do you need a simple grater?
Elvira75
Ilmirushka, Bosch reviews are rather tasteful.

Something like the fact that a fine grater rubs too finely, it turns out like porridge. Large - too large), etc. So I think I'll buy a hefty car, and it will only make cubes out of what is needed, like a modest Phillips vegetable cutter. Well, of course, there is a meat grinder and a mixer, comforters)

Dopleta, the fact that Bosch 5 has been working for many years is very encouraging.

And cutting cabbage is not so important anymore) that's exactly what I don't cut it in such quantities.

SoNika, Mula will cut green tomatoes and onions into thin half rings? And, I understand correctly, we are talking about a vegetable cutter?




Ilmirushka, Dopleta, Bosch Mum, the one that makes cubes, cuts into slices (for example, onions and green tomatoes)? Does it generally have slicer-type attachments?

I figured out the julienne nozzle, it is perfect for me for carrots. And the nozzle for French fries is possible for eggplant cubes (for He)

I read the topic of Bosch Mum, but there on the first 15 pages The people are more puzzled by the nozzle cube)))
dopleta
Quote: Elvira75
it turns out like porridge
Porridge? What nonsense! I don’t know what model is written there - I have that Bosch cube about which we have theme, and I have it almost from the first day of sale, so I bought some disks, but - it has slices of three thicknesses, and graters are also of three sizes: small, medium and large (I'm talking about ordinary graters, excluding julienne, grater for potato pancakes and bars for fries). You would meet with one of the mokwiches who have it and try it yourself.
fffuntic
SoNika, yeah, the mule has a large straw, I know. Straws generally only have a mule. but Muli only has one kind of cube and the slices are thicker than the mum. In general, you start poking around, each unit has its own + and -. It remains to be seen what is more important to yourself.
And so that the cube is different, and the straw, and the slicing and washing, and conveniently - there is no such thing. We must choose some disadvantages in the bargain.

Girlswhat kind of porridge? there are simply different sizes of lines.

my MUM came in a small package. That is, there was the smallest and largest grater and two types of slices.
A grater, which is small, really makes thin sticks, not porridge. I was just delighted, because I love such carrots and on any other machine it turns out so thin. Tiny straws.
In general, the Bosch cuts into neat strips. An ordinary hand grater does not rub like that.

At the same time, I needed an ordinary grater for everyday needs and I bought it in addition. Julienne did not take it, because the average straw is a wonderful neat straw, I saved stupidly, the spare parts are very expensive.
And for really baby vegetable puree, I took a thorn, which is for potato pancakes.

When I bought a minibosh, there were 4 graters in the delivery, a thorn, two slicers, and just this one is a neat medium grater, and I bought a little favorite and took a big grater to the heap.


Rubbing with beautiful straws, thick or very thin, neat, pre-neat.
Mom has the 4th Bosch, and there is not much difference, but it turns on without a bowl, you can rub it directly into a saucepan.
As I understand it, this power is needed to grind meat with cartilage, or knead dumplings.
And if it's just yeast and like a vegetable cutter, then in the 5th mum only the presence of a cube cutter distinguishes, + the inconvenience: you can't turn it on without a bowl (or rather, I made the plug manually, but this is no longer a guarantee)
I have one more complaint about Bosch combines - I bought a flexi whisk for mixing cream and custard dough, because other combines have a K-nozzle, but you have to buy more from Bosch. And to buy it is expensive. The flexi toad choked for a long time until the desire to have won. But horror .. these additional purchases are not cheap
And so - tenderly, dearly love.

And I looked at my friends, which was with cubes, but with knives, without a mixer. MCM. So neat. And the discs and cubes there are the same as mum.

Elvira75
The further into the forest, the thicker the partisans
Fffuntic what is mini bosh?

And how it all began prosaically))) but why not buy me a small vegetable cutter at the end of summer?
fffuntic
mini-bosh-filipok,
this is where the lid won't wash

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like this - the previous model from Tanya (Admin), in my opinion it was Philips HR1659 / 90,
and also .. to the filipki there was a set of triangle cubes.

but my mini-Boshik, although the reviews are just delightful, it is not ideal, although as I already wrote, it suits my needs the most for today.
Bosch MSM 881X2 - my model,
older Bosch MSM 671X1
Because of the cover times. Secondly, it is gentle. Filipki are more workhorses. This unit requires attention and care. Not in the tail and in the mane. It is necessary to give a rest, not to press with all your might. How to check fasteners during operation.

Type Bosch MSM 881X2 reviews in Yandex. There will be his description and photos.

Admin
Quote: fffuntic
where the lid won't wash

Why not wash? It washes well It's just so tall and big.

I already have so many of these rattles that I use them when needed. This phillips for me in the summer works at the time of blanks, planes with cubes mainly
vorchih
Hello everyone! I've been reading for many days, and I can't figure it out ... The whole discussion revolves around Muli, Fili and Bosch, but there are many other companies, they are not worth attention at all? I suddenly wanted a blender with a cube cutter, but Filya was too tough for 11 sput, ordered VVK 1011., and I think now that it’s probably in vain. Explain the teapot, what's the difference? I am aware of the authority of the firms, maybe what else have I missed? Thank you in advance

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