And again, 1001 times about the flour of choice !!! For owners of ovens Moulinex 5004 and Panas 255

And about the similarity of the bucket of lies and Panasonic, so for me the bucket was quite suitable for me, but some tinny flimsy or something

and a photo from the forum of good quality
Panasonic owners do not be offended by the comparison of buckets
the smell of plastic blocked all the pluses of false

Thank you ... I lean towards Panasonic ...
but I also like Moulinex

and a photo from the forum of good quality
Panasonic owners do not be offended by the comparison of buckets
the smell of plastic blocked all the pluses of false

I will only say that Panasonic has a cast bucket, while LG and Delongey will have a thinner one, but, as practice shows, this does not greatly affect the quality of baking. Buy what you see first, now the stoves are somehow in short supply

I have the opportunity to compare both buckets, although Ski has been for many years. At Panasonic it is more impressive, perhaps. So golden, cast, heavy. Ski is easier. But, the bread is good both there and there. That's right, it's not the bucket. Although I saw the clathronics - a can of a tin to the touch, such a flimsy

And about the stoves - everyone praises his canary Many people go from Ski to Panasonic later. Maybe for a start not very expensive to buy? I have a family - 4 people, Ski baked bread 680 gr. (Maximum), enough for a day or two. And now the kids have grown up, bought Panas - a maximum of 1250, there were guests - one loaf was enough for 8 people. You also need to pay attention to this, how many people are we counting on? If the guests are not frequent, and the family is not large, I would not choose large units.

When we were choosing a new stove, we drew attention to the possibility of baking rye bread, but I still cannot buy malt to try. Although just mixed baked, my son liked the usual "gray" with seeds. Good for sandwiches. With smoked sausage.

A family of 4 + grandparents apply for homemade bread !!!

I have Moulinex-2000, I like the fact that there are 3 sizes of loaves: 500, 750, 1000. We don't need a family of 2 people anymore, we bake once 2 days, but about the crust, then we got out of this situation: at the end baking, for about 10 minutes, just cover the top of the stove with a towel so that hot air does not come out through the hole, and after the end of baking for 10-15 minutes it stands in the same position, and the crust turns out, as they say: what you love is my stove I like it, they say it right, everyone praises their swamp

We'll have to take Mulinex. Panasonic is nowhere to be found ....

Bunny if you are from Moscow, then Panasonic 255 was in Stockman in Teply Stan.

No. I am from Kiev. but my sister lives in Moscow

Try to order via the Internet, there are more choices and lower prices

I have Moulinex, but if your heart lies with Panasonic, then it is better to take it, although I like my stove, the main thing in it is what? what would she bake

Yes, you need to ring up, because it is not always available, although it flashes on the site, good luck

I called all these shops ... but they are not there ... nowhere else ...
All the same - thank you, friends !!!
I have 50 to 50 ... just a light crust scares in Mulka ...

What about your feedback? what's up with the crust? and with a lid?

What about your feedback? what's up with the crust? and with a lid?

I had Moulinex 2000, at first there were problems with the crust, it was also pale, and even then only in the French bun program, now everything is fine, I am satisfied with its color, as they say, developed. There are no problems with the lid yet, it is removed, but I don’t understand what it is for

... There are no problems with the lid yet, it is removed, but I don’t understand what it is for

Maybe to make it easier to "wash", for example, a window?

My first bread was with a pale crust, and then either I got used to it, but it turned golden (on wheat bread). I am more "worried" about very crunchy barrels and bottoms. Rather, "fry". I have never set the "dark" color, because it is very hot on average.

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what had - bread maker Moulinex 5004
what did you get - a beautiful loaf of bread, with a thin crispy crust, evenly baked, with a beautiful golden top crust - not at all white!
it is embarrassing that the stirrers remain in the bread and then they have to be removed ... I have one got stuck - I took it out and that's it, it's not scary, but still there is such a moment ...
otherwise - I do not know about Panasonic, but much better!!! I took a photo - tomorrow I'll put it on my computer and post it, and in the morning my husband will take my loaf to Odessa. I'll bake one more now!
p. from. during baking there was a smell of an iron heating, but this is written in the instructions, after the first few times it should go away ...

So far I am very happy and do not regret the choice made! and tomorrow I will make baguettes, and if everything is ok - I will boast with pictures !!!
window - I really liked that it is!

Congratulations!!!!!
I also wanted to buy one, but when I bought it, there were no such stoves on sale yet, and even more so, I only saw them on the website. Happy baking

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Bunny, it seems to me, or you posted the same message in three different topics?
Don't you think this is overkill?

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Congratulations! Have you found a dispenser? And then you have already written down his absence in the minuses of the stove.

there is no dispenser - there is a sound signal

Nobody has yet seen mulinexes with a mold for baguettes alive in Russia ...

Today in "Search" I personally had the honor to see and touch ....! but. heh, I'm not sure yet!

Who cares, I posted pictures here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=2383.0

GOOD PEOPLE CANNOT DOWNLOAD INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE STOVE AND PANASONIK 255 AND MULINEKS 5004. THE ERROR IS PERMANENTLY FLASHING. WHAT TO DO? PROMPT !!! PLIZ

GOOD PEOPLE CANNOT DOWNLOAD INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE STOVE AND PANASONIK 255 AND MULINEKS 5004. THE ERROR IS PERMANENTLY FLASHING. WHAT TO DO? PROMPT !!! PLIZ

Check - do you have a program for reading pdf files (ad reader)?

It opens for me through Adobe Acrobat. Perhaps you need to put it

I bought Moulinex 5004 yesterday (now I have 2 stoves). I bought it for 4870 - the lowest price so far for this stove. For those who are in Moscow - Electronic Paradise on Prague.

[255]

Greetings to all bakers and residents of this forum. I have such a difficult task, since it is not quite simple, Yandex prompted me to hear from you competent advice. The bottom line is the following, 4 young people live in our room, and as you know during their student years, they are so cheerful, carefree and cooked at some kind of concoction in "fast foods". Deciding to protect myself and friends from various diseases, as well as to save money, I suggested taking a Bread Maker for the New Year! Since the reviews about such a miracle in most cases are good, and it also turned out that they know how to bake cupcakes and other sweets for tea, many supported me and entrusted me with such a responsible matter as choosing the very stove. After sitting in front of the monitor screen and going to the electronics hypermarkets. I chose two, to be more precise 3 models Panasonic 254 (5) and Mulinex 5004. Why them, because, again, I persuaded I took better, so that it was possible not only to bake bread. And all the local bakers have such. After reading about both, I got even more confused. In this regard, here is what interests me about specific stoves:
1) Simplicity and not whimsical work (so that the devices themselves are not very capricious) the scales are already there.
2) The ability to deliciously bake sweets, since this is an eternal problem, "what about tea ??? !!!"
3) He obeys and understands even inexperienced cooks (and I still haven't baked bread before)
4) And of course, the durability of the work is at least 5 years. We promise to groom and lilify, but if she "gets sick" quickly and is capricious, and does not meet expectations, then all the bumps will fly at me ((
255
+ it hurts the members of the forum to praise her very much, or rather, they run to infringe on them, as a special deficit.
- because of the dispenser and dumplings dough, it costs 990 r more ((
Didn't understand the clear difference from 254.
5004
+ knows how to make 4 baguettes
+ whole rolls 1500 kg
+ there is a review window
- from the thread about muly 5004, some reviews are not super-super, unlike all the same 255, that's what confuses me (

For students, what do you recommend to take so that all the neighbors are jealous)))))

If I were you (remembering my student years), I would take something inexpensive
In general, according to:
1) Read in "Difficulties of choice", but for me they are all clever, but at the same time everyone !! you need a smart head of its owner .. the model does not play a special role.
2) Any recipe for snacks from the site (and not only) can be baked in any bread maker, the main thing is to check the size .. but in my opinion, the average size is more or less the same for everyone (bread for 600g, in my opinion, everyone bakes).
3) see item 1
4) There is a survey topic regarding reliability:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2899.0

in 255 models, the dispenser is automatic, and in 254, additives must be added by a cotton signal.

in 255 models, the dispenser is automatic, and in 254, additives must be added by a cotton signal.

and yet, in 254 there is no "rye" mode

[Student]

Student , guys, better buy a multicooker, then the food will definitely not be fast food ... By the way, you can bake bread in it ...
Like it, then buy a bread maker ...

I support, of course, the multicooker is better, it is more functional, read it, the site has a section about multicooker.

[Pakatu]

Moulinex with baguettes: baguettes will need to be molded with handles, can someone do it?
I join Pakatu (outstripped) - the slow cooker will be an irreplaceable thing - the whole hostel will be envious
I agree with the bread machine Cubic.
But in Panasonic, bread is still tastier and, sorry, it's more difficult to mess up in it.

The presence of a window is not important, but without it, the top crust turns out to be fried.
SURVEY: Top crust color in bread
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4938.0

And somehow I didn't realize right away .. that's right, take a slow cooker !!! You can bake a lot of sweets in it, but it will also cook pilaf, and it will cook soup and porridge for you !!!

In general, I am also for a multicooker, but if we are a baker, then Panasonic. It always turns out bread.

If Panasonic - then, in principle, 254 is possible. I don't think that the absence of the "dumplings dough" mode will be critical for you (you already have strong hands, handle it yourself if necessary, it's very simple and fast). But in 254 there is Italian.
4 baguettes - first you have to mold them, and then - just enough for a sandwich for everyone. Better a loaf of bread under the lid - from any bread machine
Any HP can bake sweet breads.
By February 23rd, buy a slow cooker, then: 1. the neighbors will finally get jealous, because the smell of food will be added to the smell of bread - meat, soup, porridge, etc. 2. forget about fast food - the food in the dorm room will be tastier, and quickly ... 3. Learn to cook. 4. Girls will come to visit - for a delicious dinner with delicious bread. 5. Fewer health problems for the diploma ...

Wow, how many answers already, and so quickly, the forum is clearly alive

I advise a multicooker, right now we will study them, what kind of animals are

In general, then panosonic, although I thought they only make high-quality audio video.

If you want to bake bread, it is better to do it in a bread maker. For 4 men, Moulinex is better, because there are large loaves, the dispenser does not beep loudly (it is not there, but in Panas everyone complains that it scares). The shape is more convenient, a brick, and not a square, as in Panas, it is more convenient to cut. And a slow cooker is better for cooking, and it is better to bake sweet pastries. Moreover, it is more humid than in the oven.

Peace be with you bakers!
Student by weight more bread in 5004 comes out of course
it is more convenient for a large company, but don't count on baguettes too much, since the output is 400 grams and you understand this at once
but the baguette holder can be used for baking semi-finished products
my daughter's acquaintances from the institute dormitory buy at the wholesaler
immediately packing puff pastries with filling \ by the way, the price is within 10 rubles \ and baked in 5004 on a baguette holder
but on the other hand, a person does not live by bread alone, and if you are constrained
in the means and stand at a crossroads stove or multicooker, then my advice to you is to buy a multicooker first

The multicooker will cook the first and the second for you and bake sweets. And most importantly, it can be programmed so that lunch and dinner are hot. Buy a cartoon, you will not regret a day!

The multicooker is, of course, a hit! Practically a cook, a minimum of effort is required from you. As for HP, for students, I would recommend the cheapest LG. She will cope with her direct duties completely and will be released 2 times cheaper than the fancy Panas. Bread made from it is much tastier than store bread, and you can make a mess in Panasonic. At the same time, observing the rules of the kolobok and sometimes reading the forum, you can bake excellent bread in any oven. And if it doesn't work out, or someone envies, drops it, breaks it, it won't be so offensive. By the way, did you have any cases in the hostel with taking out other people's things? (I had an LG, I know what I'm writing about. By the way, there were practically no jambs, with the exception of frank experiments "at random," and that was eaten.)

Listen to the real slow cooker just what you need. A girl who does not demand anything in return A quick scan on the Internet revealed that the Multicooker can handle most of the demanded dishes. Only here, which surprised me very, very much, they are not in stores. Mvideo, technosila, world, eldorado. In general, they don’t know what it is, is it not the same as a mini oven?

The Yandex market gave me only two models of this thing

Panasonic SR-TMB18
and PANASONIC SR-TMH10

Ps 18 model can bake bread, at least better than the store one or not?

[Student]

Student
You can bake bread in a slow cooker, but you need to knead the dough with handles. You can bake and cook the first and second courses, as well as different cereals, you can use both. They differ only in volume. For 4 people, the 18th model is better, it is 4.5 liters. 10th model for 2.5 liters, it will be too small for you. Ideally, it is better to have both a bread maker and a slow cooker. Cook in a cartoon, and bake bread in a bread maker. If you are in Moscow, then in the Mediamarkt chain of stores there are multicooker for sale. Look, there are several stores in Moscow. Were spotted in Kashirka and Leningradka last week

Vendors in stores sometimes call multicooker STEAMERS, although this is a completely different appliance.

Another option, a multicooker-pressure cooker (I have one) Unit -1000 or landlife, which is basically the same thing. Look at them, but I'm afraid that these pots are not sold everywhere .. however, like Panasonic (you will have to look for it too). Two big advantages: the function of the pressure cooker and the price (they will be cheaper than Panas).

So, if suddenly, instead of a Panasonic, you find a unit in the store - 1000, take it, the same cool thing.

There are multicooker in the Techhome online store.

There are also multi-hunters ... if we are talking about cartoons ... also an option ..

Student, this is what you "advised" !!!!!
If I were in your place (oooooohhh, I would give a lot to return to my student days !!!!), I would reason like this:
The money is limited, so I will buy a bread baker at a cheaper price (there is a choice), and a multicooker is 4.5 liters. Since there is no choice in the models, there is a choice in their liters (you have already explained).
Multicooker is sold in the Eldorado network. Call t8-800-555-11-11 free of charge (all-Russian toll-free line), name your city, they give it out to which address is available and how much it costs. The last price, I found out yesterday 5399r
If funds allow, then, of course, take Panas. And anyone. They have no equal in terms of reliability and constructive accuracy. If you still need to save money, then take Kenwood or LV. Read the corresponding branches - they have minimal complaints and they are reliable in operation. If a little "cooler", then Mulks and Delongues. But Mulki is a lottery, according to a poll on the forum, every 4 breaks, this is the biggest indicator! Think about it!
Summary. If you buy these 2 things, then in tandem they will feed BETTER girls not only to your room, but to the entire floor. that's for sure! They do not replace, they complement each other perfectly! Every day there will be dishes on the table that you would never bother to cook by hand on the stove at the end of the corridor!
P. S.Do not forget to come back here after your purchase and tell our all GRAND MERSY advisors for invaluable advice, but remember
NOT AN AX CUTTING, BUT A CARPENTER!

Good day.
I have a choice between two stoves: Moulinex 5004 and Panasonic 254.
According to the reviews on the forum, I realized that it is still better than Panasonic, but it confuses me that it does not have a "rye bread" mode. I would of course take the 255th Panasonic, but I can't find it in our city.
Tell me, is it possible to bake rye bread in a different mode at 254 or still take Moulinex?
P.S: the presence of baguettes is not critical