A.lenka
Quote: Scarecrow
Because, probably, they are so lush: double loosening.))
Natasha, well, not double, of course ... There 1: 4 worked somewhere ... But, apparently, yes, the baking powder has done its magnificent job. But with one drawback - the void around the filling was formed in the pies with mushrooms and potatoes.
Today I bake the next Chuchelka pies ... With another adventure - the dry yeast has run out. I had to urgently get a supply of compressed yeast from the freezer. So far, I can note that the dough is more fragrant with them.

Probably, you need to switch to live yeast.
Scarecrow
A.lenka,

Double in the sense: yeast and baking powder)).

I have been baking only for the living for a long time. Dry so - in the wings, when suddenly there are no living.
A.lenka
Scarecrow, Natusik, convinced!
ONA
Huge Thank you for the recipe !!! ! Now I always make only this dough and pass the recipe to my friends. everyone is happy and happy. : girl_love: There has never been a tastier and more flavorful dough. working with him is a pleasure. : girl_dance: Thank you Scarecrow !!!
veronica555
Scarecrow, Good evening. Can you show me if it is possible to replace some of the flour with whole grain? If yes, then the amount of water needs to be reduced, increased?
Scarecrow
veronica555,

Sure you may. But due to the fact that you are replacing dry ingredients with dry ones, you do not touch the liquids in any way, so you should not change the amount of water.

ONA,

Good health to you and your friends. The pies are combined))).
veronica555
Thank you so much! I made pies according to your recipe yesterday. Super! the whole family was delighted!
alena40
Scarecrow, Natasha, I will napmshu your pies !!!!!! Their river has long been, but all hands did not reach to write gratitude ....... Forgive me, druh! In general, I hooked a whole school team and one uncle on your pies !!! It was like this: I was staying for almost half a year in your central regions ... (it just so happened). I came to my brother in a military town, my nephew was 18 years old. I prepared your goodies and pies with cabbage and chives. All guests liked it !!! In the next. once I decided to bake for the arrival of my brother from a long business trip, and my daughter-in-law take and take a few pieces to school (she is the head of the English language department there). Returns in the evening and says that colleagues Demand to conduct a master class. And as I did not deny and did not break away, I could not dodge ... I had to conduct an MC. BUT TOLD EVERYONE THAT IT'S NOT MY PIE, BUT NATASHA-CHUCHELKI !!!
RS kneaded 2 kg of flour, taking into account the sore right hand, it turned out super !!!!!!
And one of the men, having tasted the dishes prepared by me on the birthday table, among which were your pies in my performance, told his wife: If I had such Alena, I would never have married !!!!
Sorry that so much and messy, maybe not in the subject, but for a long time I wanted to say THANK YOU !!!!! If anything, I will delete everything ...
Scarecrow
alena40,

I read you, Alain, but the second batch is in the oven. I was reluctant to bake them with kulebyaki. And then you mess around, you mess around. but this does not affect the speed of eating))).

Did you directly show everyone the process inside and out? Right here is a master class? Finally !!))
Florichka
So I just put this wonderful dough. I want to bake raisin rolls. True, their raisins are from blackberries. My favorite dough. I bake for all parties and no matter how I deny, their name is Irina's pies.
here are my buns.
Cabbage pies
Ekaterina2
Cabbage pies
b] Scarecrow
Irina St.
Nata, baked pies with cabbage according to your recipe today, the whole family is delighted! The pies are just magical! From all of us Thanks for the tasty treat!
Vlasik
Scarecrow, Nata, thanks! Great recipe! I bake pies this way now. The next portion, sweet and with cabbage.
Cabbage pies
Scarecrow
Bake, bake. Pies are very in our way and in a family way!))
Irina1607
Girls tell me, is it possible to replace white flour with whole grain flour? I can't eat white flour pastries (well, maybe if only one pie), but I want some buns.
Scarecrow
Irina1607,

Can. The pies will not be so fluffy and there is flour that floats at all (whole grain), but in fact, everything should work out. I baked bread from it many times.
alena40
Quote: Scarecrow
Did you show everyone the whole process inside and out? Right here is a master class? Finally !!))
Straight MASTER CLASS !!! The aunts seemed to be of all ages, but they were interested! (Although I think they missed the "FRESH" in their small town, that is, a new person ..) But I liked it ...
Verusya
Good evening, tell me, please, what kind of consistency the dough should be ??? Now I'm doing it on the floor of the norm, the dough turned out to be thin and sticks to my hands ... What do you advise? Maybe add some flour? Thank you in advance for your reply !!
prona
Vera, let it rise, it will be denser. But if it sticks a lot, then maybe it was badly kneaded ?! Of course, it also depends on flour ...
Verusya
Hurrah!!! Thank you so much! The dough is delicious !!!Cabbage pies
IrinaS111
Nata, Natasha or someone, help? If you leave it in the bread maker for an hour, do you need to stand in the oven for another hour?
Lёlik
Quote: Scarecrow
Leave the dough in the HP bucket for 1 hour. All. Next comes the cutting.
Point N2 - for manual kneading, where we ferment the dough in the oven.
IrinaS111
Scarecrow, Natathanks for the delicious pies. I can say for the first time such a soft dough turned out. The bread maker had to work hard twice, as you warned. The result pleased me and all the household.
irina tukina
Hello. The first time I baked it, it turned out very successful. But the second time I baked, the dough turned out to be a little different, although I did everything according to the recipe. The dough turned out to be a little dense.
Scarecrow
IrinaS111,

I'm very glad. Do not stop there, work with the test further))).

irina tukina,
You can reproduce the recipe up to a gram, but the result will not be the same. Because products are not exactly the same. In particular, flour. Its humidity is unstable. And the dough will be different. In winter, the humidity is lower (everything dries up from heating), usually the dough needs a drop of more water / liquid.
irina tukina
Yes, I did not take into account this moment.
Lёlik
Nata, Natasha, thanks for such a wonderful recipe. So everything is painted in detail, plus a master class in modeling. From the very first time, beautiful and delicious pies turned out. I imagined myself to be a super pastry chef, and having lost all fear, I treated Tanya-Zhirafka when I met her in Moscow. The pies turned out to be just the size of a glass.
Florichka
And I recently baked Monkey bread with three types of fillings - cabbage, chanterelles with onions and liver and onions in a bread machine. And the dough is still the same, Natasha, yours, my favorite.
Cabbage pies
Scarecrow
Florichka,

I, too, got used to it and sprouted. I'll do it even with my eyes closed. And I just sculpt everything out of it.
Ricca
Thank you !!! Delicious dough !!! I made it for 500 g of flour, it turned out 17 pieces (part with meat and part with potatoes). Here's the meat pies, I'm on the trail. if I put less sugar, and with potatoes - the most sugar !!!
In general, this is the best recipe for pastry pastry!
irina tukina
Tanya and you did 500 gr. flour and accordingly reduced all the ingredients?
Ricca
Yes of course. If you are talking about sugar, then a little less than half a glass took it, a third was applied.
irina tukina
Did yeast and other components also reduce?
Ricca
Yes, it halved everything. :-)
irina tukina
Thank you Tanya
tana33
Scarecrow, Nata, tell me pliz how to make a filling from cottage cheese to make it so that it does not flow such an infection .....?
Scarecrow
tana33,

I don't like curd filling, to be honest. In pies, I mean. Therefore, I never combined minced curd with yeast dough. I do not know.
tana33
Nata, thanks))) I'll go look for someone who loves)))))
Crochet
Quote: tana33
how to make cottage cheese filling to prevent it from flowing

Tanyush, I do like this:

Cottage cheese - 400 grams
Yolk - 1 pc
Sugar - 3 tbsp. l. or to taste
Salt - 1 pinch



I take dry, grained cottage cheese ...
Tumanchik
Quote: tana33
Scarecrow, Nata, tell me pliz, how to make a filling from cottage cheese to make it so that it does not flow such an infection .....?
Tanya once upon a time I did this. The eggs were mixed in a bowl and in a water bath, stirring constantly, and gradually adding curd filling (whipped cottage cheese with sour cream, sugar and vanilla). where I wrote it down - but where I do not remember.
tana33
Inna, Irina, thanks my good ones, I'll try)))

Scarecrow, Nata, I will try the dough in vyhi, for a cake, I do something like this from the instructions for x \ n, it is only sugar-free, I still think what I lack in it, but probably there is not enough sugar)))

Crochet
Quote: Tumanchik
once upon a time I did this

Irishka, and at least the approximate proportions of cottage cheese-sour cream-eggs do not remember?

I was really interested in your method of making cottage cheese filling, the same custard curd cream turns out, but I don't know how by eye, I can't ...
Tumanchik

Quote: Krosh
I was really interested in your method of making curd filling
Innulya, I will definitely look. Toka later!
Natul, pies IN !!!! Delicious! I liked the dough very much! Took note of the use of animal and vegetable oils at once! No wonder such a popular recipe! Thank you! Now if there are pies, then from Scarecrow!
Only they grow huge with me. Especially when baking. Immediately small, neat. And then ELEPHANT! But delicious !!!
Tumanchik
Quote: Krosh
Irishka, can you remember the approximate proportions of cottage cheese, sour cream, eggs?

I was really interested in your method of making cottage cheese filling, the same custard curd cream turns out, but I don't know how by eye, I can't
Inna, I found my old notes. This is true:

300 g of low-fat homemade cheese or non-watery cottage cheese, 100 g of butter, 200 g of sour cream, 2 eggs

Mix cottage cheese with butter and sour cream. Beat the eggs in a water bath, gradually add the curd mass there. Stir the toka, not whip.
Crochet
Irishka, my gratitude has no limits !!!

I will definitely try !!!

What kind of beast is this homemade low-fat cheese?

It's something like cream cheese ? Or no ?

Although I'm fooling around, I'd rather buy cottage cheese ...

Thank you, my bunny !!!
Tumanchik
Quote: Krosh
And homemade low-fat cheese is what a beast
this is a Bladed cheese weighed into a blade
Crochet
I know this, I did it myself ...

Shouldn't I shake up the old days and cook blade cheese ?!

Thank you, golden !!!
Tumanchik
Quote: Krosh
Shouldn't I shake the old days and cook blade cheese ?!
carefully, do not shake too much!
kykysik1107
Girls, dear!
Please explain to me why the top of the pies (see page 76) is not the same as on the first page ??
The fact is that my pies also always turn out like this, no matter how I smear them, but I want dark ones.
Maybe it's a gas oven, not an electric one?
Tumanchik
Quote: kykysik1107
Maybe it's a gas oven, not an electric one?
absolutely not. be sure to lubricate. preferably with protein, but not cold. exactly the way it is written. well, the baking temperature. I also bake in gas. always bright. but I have a special thermometer in the oven

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