irysska
Girls, I wrote in my previous post that there could be just such a party, this is how Makstro surge protectors - Ksyushka knows
And it's very good that mom has Mona1 , and at Pintusha yogurt makers are good.
But it is still alarming that in a yoghurt maker with temperature control, you have to put cartons as in other yogurt makers without this adjustment. If you need a piece of cardboard, it means that something is wrong with the temperature - then it is higher than the set one. This means that it is likely that the yogurt maker may not maintain a given temperature and still overheat. Then the question is brewing - why fence the garden by buying a second yogurt maker, if you can buy a thermostat for Deksik and have these 32, 36 and 42 C.
I quite agree that it may be podlyana from competitors But still, reading this before buying is somehow not very pleasant. My girlfriend is now in thought - she wants to, and injects (after all, Deksik is there and except for narrow jars there are no complaints about him).
And again, the argument is not in favor of Vivo: the other day it was very lazy for me to sterilize jars and pour milk into them at 24 hours - I sterilized a bowl for cottage cheese, a spoon, warmed up the milk, leaven there - and forward to the victory of communism. That is, the ability to put one large bowl is a big and fat plus (but this is for me personally, maybe someone does not think so). In total, I received 1.5 liters of Vivo streptossan.
But all these are just my reflections on the topic and I in no way want to offend the owners of this yogurt maker or say that the yogurt maker is not worthwhile. It would be more accurate to say that now all the yogurt makers on the market, how to put it mildly, do not meet the expectations that end users would like to see in them (tobish, we are with you).
Rita
azaza,
I have tried all earplugs and ended up with silicone for the pool. They don't hurt my ears. They do not need to be inserted into the ear opening itself. They just need to cover up the entire area in front of the hole, but it is not so sensitive. These plugs are sold in pharmacies and sports stores. They look like plasticine cakes. I buy childrens - they are smaller, but there are more of them. They suit me perfectly.
azaza
Rita, that's really thank you! I have not even heard of such. I will definitely try. Only first you need to find. Ordinary beads are not sold in every pharmacy.
Pintusha
Quote: irysska

Girls, I wrote in my previous post that there could be just such a party, this is how Makstro surge protectors - Ksyushka knows
And it's very good that mom has Mona1 , and at Pintusha the yogurt makers are good.
But it is still alarming that in a yoghurt maker with temperature control, you have to put cartons as in other yogurt makers without this adjustment. If you need a piece of cardboard, it means that something is wrong with the temperature - then it is higher than the set one. This means that it is likely that the yogurt maker may not maintain a given temperature and still overheat. Then the question is brewing - why fence the garden by buying a second yoghurt maker, if you can buy a thermostat for Deksik and have these 32, 36 and 42 C.
I quite agree that it may be podlyana from competitors But still, reading this before buying is somehow not very pleasant. My girlfriend is now in thought - she wants to, and injects (after all, Deksik is there and except for narrow jars there are no complaints about him).
And again, the argument is not in favor of Vivo: the other day it was very lazy for me to sterilize jars and pour milk into them at 24 hours - I sterilized a bowl for cottage cheese, a spoon, warmed up the milk, leaven there - and forward to the victory of communism. That is, the ability to put one large bowl is a big and fat plus (but this is for me personally, maybe someone does not think so). In total, I received 1.5 liters of Vivo streptossan.
But all this is just my reflections on the topic and I in no way want to offend anything
owners of this yogurt maker or say that the yoghurt maker is not worthwhile. It would be more accurate to say that
now all the yogurt makers on the market, how to put it mildly, are not
meet the expectations that end users would like to see in them (tobish, we
with you).
I want to say that vivo is one of the few yogurt makers that DOES NOT OVERHEAT. I measured it with a thermometer. the problem is in the design, since the bottom ferments faster than the top, but it ferments faster without overheating. due to the cardboard, somehow the heating occurs more evenly.
azaza
Quote: Pintusha

I want to say that vivo is one of the few yogurt makers that DOES NOT OVERHEAT. I measured it with a thermometer. the problem is in the design, since the bottom ferments faster than the top, but it ferments faster without overheating. due to the cardboard, somehow the heating occurs more evenly.
That's interesting to me. If you, Pintusha, not being the developer of this particular yogurt maker and, I suspect, an engineer in general, managed to recognize the cause of the problem and the way to eliminate it, WHY CANNOT THE DEVELOPERS DO IT? !! This applies not only to Vivo, this applies to any overheating yogurt maker! Why should we, users of products, puzzle over and find ELEMENTARY solutions to other people's problems, and the manufacturer presents his products to the market as something perfect? ​​!!
PintushaI hope you understand that my words are in no way a claim to you. This is anger at the manufacturers-bunglers! It doesn't matter what the overheating yogurt maker is called. The important thing is that the price of solving the problem is literally a penny, but the manufacturer is sorry even for these pennies for the sake of improving their own developments. It's easier to chase a marriage than to bring a model (the same Vivo!) To perfection.
Lozja
Quote: azaza

That's interesting to me. If you, Pintusha, not being the developer of this particular yogurt maker and, I suspect, an engineer in general, managed to recognize the cause of the problem and the way to eliminate it, WHY CANNOT THE DEVELOPERS DO IT? !! This applies not only to Vivo, this applies to any overheating yogurt maker! Why should we, users of products, puzzle over and find ELEMENTARY solutions to other people's problems, and the manufacturer presents his products to the market as something perfect? ​​!!
PintushaI hope you understand that my words are in no way a claim to you. This is anger at the manufacturers-bunglers! And it doesn't matter what the overheating yogurt maker is called. The important thing is that the price of solving the problem is literally a penny, but the manufacturer is sorry even for these pennies for the sake of improving their own developments. It's easier to chase a marriage than to bring a model (the same Vivo!) To perfection.

That's for sure. What is it worth making the bottom a layer thicker so that the yogurt ferments evenly? After all, the heating comes from the bottom, and it is clear that the bottom will always be warmer than the top. Why does cardboard solve problems? And why not do this by sealing the bottom? The pinnacle of engineering!
Mona1
Quote: azaza

That's interesting to me. If you, Pintusha, not being the developer of this particular yoghurt maker and, I suspect, an engineer in general, were able to recognize the cause of the problem and the way to eliminate it, WHY CANNOT THE DEVELOPERS DO IT? !! This applies not only to Vivo, this applies to any overheating yogurt maker! Why should we, users of products, puzzle over and find ELEMENTARY solutions to other people's problems, and the manufacturer presents his products to the market as something perfect? ​​!!
PintushaI hope you understand that my words are in no way a claim to you.This is anger at the manufacturers-bunglers! And it doesn't matter what the overheating yogurt maker is called. The important thing is that the price of solving the problem is literally a penny, but the manufacturer is sorry even for these pennies for the sake of improving their own developments. It's easier to chase a marriage than to bring a model (the same Vivo!) To perfection.
The answer is simple - money. Cheap yoghurt goes like hot cakes. A person buys in the hope of chance: like maybe it was overheating from others, but it blows me over, why overpay? A more perfect design (in the same VIVO) - it is already more expensive, but there are much fewer jambs than in the cheap ones. If you bring VIVO to perfection, then it will be even more expensive. It has been historically proven that the most profitable trade is trade in matches, etc.
Lozja
Quote: Mona1

The answer is simple - money. Cheap yoghurt goes like hotcakes. A person buys in the hope of chance: like maybe it was overheating from others, but it blows me over, why overpay? A more perfect design (in the same VIVO) - it is already more expensive, but there are much fewer jambs than in the cheap ones. If you bring VIVO to perfection, then it will be even more expensive. It has been historically proven that the most profitable trade is trade in matches, etc.

Something I did not understand. According to your theory, the same Tefal and Moulinex should be better than Deksy. And where is it?
Mona1
Quote: Lozja

That's for sure. What is it worth making the bottom a layer thicker so that the yogurt ferments evenly? After all, the heating comes from the bottom, and it is clear that the bottom will always be warmer than the top. Why does cardboard solve problems? And why not do this by sealing the bottom? The pinnacle of engineering!
it's not just the bottom seal. VIVO's cups are high. And if you make the bottom thicker, then there will be less heat on the upper layers of yogurt and it will not ferment there.
Yes, even this is not the reason. But it is impossible for a factory to make the bottom thickness to suit everyone. Will explain. Elementary laws of electrodynamics from the school course. Tell me, do we all have the same voltage in the network? No. Someone has 230 V, and someone has 210, and somewhere in the village, like my granny's, is generally below 200 V, in the evening people turn on the pumps for watering gardens and a full kirdyk with voltage. And the heat transfer of the heating element directly depends on the voltage in the network. Therefore, if anyone in VIVO, without any cardboard boxes, is slightly steamed at the bottom, then I suspect that the voltage in the network is very good. But transport this yogurt maker to a village or town with a lower voltage in the network, then it will show itself as an IDEAL. At the factory, no matter how hard they try, they cannot please all the sockets.
Mona1
Quote: Lozja

Something I did not understand. According to your theory, the same Tefal and Moulinex should be better than Decks. And where is it?
Brand fee.
azaza
Quote: Mona1

The answer is simple - money. Cheap yoghurt goes like hotcakes. A person buys in the hope of chance: like maybe it was overheating from others, but it blows me over, why overpay? A more perfect design (in the same VIVO) - it is already more expensive, but there are much fewer jambs than in the cheap ones. If VIVO is brought to perfection, then it will be even more expensive. It has been historically proven that the most profitable trade is trade in matches, etc.
I didn't understand something
I didn't understand either. As practice shows, the cheapest yogurt maker is least susceptible to overheating. The higher the price, the higher the temperature in the yogurt maker. Although in the mind it should be the other way around: a cheap yogurt maker should be a pig in a poke (lucky / unlucky), and the more expensive, the more confident the buyer should be that everything will be in order with the device. However, in reality, everything is turned upside down. We will not take mulinexes with tefals (although it would be worth starting with them in this row). In this case, we are talking about Vivo. "Sharpened" under three temperatures - wow! Honors and respect for them. We thought about the users, everything is for the buyer: if you want - kefir kvass, if you want - curd, or you can also yogurt of any name. Well, the price for such a multi-station is 400 UAH (against 150 for the same Dex, for example).
And then it turns out that such a wonderful multi-station unit in the most banal way either over-sours or under-sours the product. And all why? Does the temperature jump? She doesn't seem to. "Just" the height of the glass was incorrectly calculated, which is why the product is ready from below and raw milk on top. Until you wait for the yogurt on top, there is already curd from below.
And who needs such versatility for 2.5 times the price than an outrageously simple Dex? Mona, the problem is that there are few jambs in Vivo, but than in even more expensive yogurt makers! In cheap, there are just or no problems at all, or they are reduced to an absolute minimum!
Davli
Mona1 I didn't understand something, do you think that tefali and mulik have no problems with overheating?
Mona1
Quote: Davli

Mona1 I didn't understand something, do you think that tefali and mulik have no problems with overheating?
On the contrary, it's just that these are well-promoted brands and not only in yogurt makers, advertising, these names are heard, so for the name they make the price higher, people will still buy
Mona1
Quote: azaza


And who needs this versatility for 2.5 times the price

For example, I would have gladly bought it a year ago if it was available. Well, I observe her at work with my mother at home, live, so to speak. I have already appreciated the convenience and pleasantness of these functions.
Davli
I already wanted to buy a Brand multicooker to make and cook yogurt at the same time, but then they brought Smile 3001 at a ridiculous price and I was left with an ARC multicooker and a yogurt maker soon - so far the flight is excellent
Sonadora
Quote: Mona1

On the contrary, it's just that these are well-promoted brands and not only in yogurt makers, advertising, these names are heard, so for the name they make the price higher, people will still buy
I do not agree!
It's not just about advertising or brand awareness. I can compare Mulinex and Severin yoghurt. The first one is much better! Maybe they will overheat (this is revealed later, unfortunately). The build quality and plastic are not in favor of the latter. The same is with the multicooker. I have Panas, they bought Palaris for my mother-in-law. Likewise. Panas is made much better. It's the same with the bread maker, I have never regretted that I bought this one.
Pintusha
I'm not against dex. but only for, vivo I was presented with a gift from Kiev. by St. Petersburg standards, it is cheap and good. We don't sell dex. So maybe she herself bought it instead of Arieta
Vafelka
Quote: Davli

Mona1 I didn't understand something, do you think that tefali and mulik have no problems with overheating?
I have moulinex and it DOES NOT OVERHEAT! I have been using it for about a year now. I don't put any cardboard or towels. The yogurt turns out to be smooth, without curdling, shiny and boring!
Here is a photo of yogurt, just made today
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Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)
Yoghurt maker - selection, reviews, questions about operation (1)
Rimma71
Vafelka, and the temperature was measured in a jar, which stands directly on the heating element? I had a mule that warmed it godlessly up to 45-50 degrees. I changed it to Arietta, only solely because of its compactness, but I continue to use the thermostat.

I subscribed to this topic a long time ago, it is very important to me, since I have been making yoghurts since the summer of 2009.
I decided to express my opinion. I am convinced that we just need a thermostat, because it not only fights overheating, but also helps to make the RIGHT yogurt, because each starter culture requires a CERTAIN temperature. And I make yogurt not only to get just a delicious product, but also to benefit my family.
And also, I just don't understand why make yogurt in a yogurt maker if purchased yogurt is used as a starter? If only so that it was just delicious? But helpful is it? I only use specials. leaven. All this is my personal opinion.
Mona1
Quote: Rimma71


And also, I just don't understand why make yogurt in a yogurt maker if purchased yogurt is used as a starter? If only so that it was just delicious? But helpful is it? I only use specials. leaven. All this is my personal opinion.
I agree to all 100 !!!
tat-63
I bought a Redmond yogurt maker yesterday, I have already experienced it, I liked it very much, 8 cups of 180 ml does not overheat.
Lozja
Quote: Vafelka

I have moulinex and it DOES NOT OVERHEAT! I have been using it for about a year now.I don't put any cartons or towels. The yogurt turns out to be smooth, without curdling, shiny and boring!

And how long is your yogurt ready? And what do you make it from? The fact is that Moulinex does not overheat critically, it's just that yogurt is faster than it needs to be cooked.
irysska
Quote: tat-63

I bought a Redmond yogurt maker yesterday, I have already experienced it, I really liked it, 8 glasses of 180 ml does not overheat.
Well, this is Well Congratulations and good luck
Vafelka
Quote: Rimma71

Vafelka, and the temperature was measured in a jar, which stands directly on the heating element? I had a mule that warmed it godlessly up to 45-50 degrees. I changed it to Arietta, only exclusively because of its compactness, but I continue to use the thermostat.

I subscribed to this topic a long time ago, it is very important to me, since I have been making yoghurts since the summer of 2009.
I decided to express my opinion. I am convinced that we just need a thermostat, because it not only fights overheating, but also helps to make the RIGHT yoghurt, because each starter culture requires a CERTAIN temperature. And I make yoghurt not only to get just a delicious product, but also to benefit my family.
And also, I just don't understand why make yogurt in a yogurt maker if purchased yogurt is used as a starter? If only so that it was just delicious? But helpful is it? I only use specials. sourdough. All this is my personal opinion.
Rimma71, the yogurt maker heats the jars up to 38 gr, and only one 40 gr. (it is probably closest to the rest of the heating element). I make yoghurt from VIVO sourdough - I think this is a fairly "correct" yoghurt (but that's just my opinion). My family likes it.
Quote: Lozja

And how long is your yogurt ready? And what do you make it from? The fact is that Moulinex does not overheat critically, it's just that yogurt is faster than it needs to be cooked.
Lozja , You're right. Yogurt is prepared at different times. For example, VIVO - 6 hours, and initially I made yogurt from Activia, so there it was 8 hours, then I switched to Milk style yogurt - 7 hours there. So it's individual, I think so. Yes, and they write the necessary time on leaven
Quote: tat-63

I bought a Redmond yogurt maker yesterday, I have already experienced it, I really liked it, 8 glasses of 180 ml does not overheat.
tat-63 , I congratulate you on a useful and successful purchase!

In general, girls, it seems to me, just how lucky with the device
Rimma71
It means that I was so unlucky with moulinex ...
Vafelka, I also make from VIVO, I tried Genesis, Evitalia, too, I hope that I also have the right yoghurts coming out of this!
Vafelka
Rimma71, I hope you are now normal! The main thing is that you and your family like it! And what is the name does it matter
Risa
Good afternoon everyone. I bought a Dex-108. Alas, it overheats up to 45 degrees. I put the cardboard on the bottom, it's still 41 degrees in a jar (. I'll have to buy a thermostat. While it is not there, tell me what to put to lower the temperature?
azaza
Quote: Risa

Good afternoon everyone. I bought a Dex-108. Alas, it overheats up to 45 degrees. I put the cardboard on the bottom, it's still 41 degrees in a jar (. I'll have to buy a thermostat. While it is not there, tell me what to put to lower the temperature?
Maybe because of the heat? Mine also began to overheat - three hours after turning it on, I recorded a temperature of 41.5.
irysska
Quote: Risa

Good afternoon everyone. I bought a Dex-108. Alas, it overheats up to 45 degrees. I put the cardboard on the bottom, it's still 41 degrees in a jar (. I'll have to buy a thermostat. While it is not there, tell me what to put to lower the temperature?
Yes, apparently the heat is making itself felt.
You can put a silicone pad under the hot, so plump - it helps a lot.
rusja
In case of heat, I read the recommendations that you need to close the jars only with lids, and not one common one, and there is no thermal effect. Try it! Happily I have nothing on
Risa
Thanks for the advice. And the room is really hot. Instead of plastic cups, I put 4 glass jars of 250 ml, just for a liter of milk.
Girls from Kiev, tell me where in Kiev you can buy the Dnipropetrovsk thermostat, I will order it for my husband when I go on my next business trip). We don't have any suitable ones in Russia.
rusja
As far as I know, the girls, even from Kiev, ordered a thermostat from a manufacturer in Dnepropetrovsk or the region, here I did not meet them
Mona1
Quote: rusja

As far as I know, the girls, even from Kiev, ordered a thermostat from a manufacturer in Dnepropetrovsk or the region, here I did not meet them
Isn't it possible for the girl's husband, having already arrived in Kiev, to order it in Dnepropetrovsk, and in 2-3 days get it in Autolux or Novaya Poshta or in some other representative office of the carrier to whom they can send it? Or if from another country, then it is impossible?
Risa, if this suits you, I can call Dnepropetrovsk and ask for details, is it possible in principle.
irysska
And I, frightened of a possible overheating at Deksik and taking into account the heat that happens in summer, ordered myself a thermostat for a yogurt maker - this will be more reliable
Risa
Mona1, thanks for the help offered, but my husband's parents live in Kiev, however, they are already very elderly, but I think they can handle the order).
mowgli
And my Mulinex does not overheat, normal yogurt, in July it will be a year since I use it
fronya40
Girls, where in Dn-sk can you buy a thermostat?
irysska
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Girls, where in Dn-sk can you buy a thermostat?
Tan
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fronya40
Quote: irysska

Tan
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Thank you !!!! I have already entered the site, made an order!
Mona1
Quote: fronya40

Thank you !!!! I have already entered the site, made an order!
Congratulations! In our regiment of thermo-regulated has arrived!
fronya40
I sit laughing, just read you, once and wrote out, they will bring you today. and I myself think, did I need IT? (thermostat) - after all, the yogurt turned out the same! But now it will be cooler !!!
irysska
Quote: fronya40

I sit laughing, just read you, once and wrote out, they will bring you today. and I myself think, did I need IT? (thermostat) - after all, the yogurt turned out the same! But now it will be cooler !!!
Tan, if you need to set the correct temperature, it will. Come in handy
rusja
I confirm - especially for kefir, Vivovskaya sour cream and other delicate products
irysska
Quote: rusja

I confirm - especially for kefir, Vivovskaya sour cream and other delicate products
I confirm Olechka's words - it has been tested on Vivo sour cream - there is not a drop of cheese - I showed it.
Aygul
Does sour cream look like store sour cream or some other taste?
irysska
Quote: Aygul

Does sour cream look like store sour cream or some other taste?
It is similar to me - with the necessary slight sourness, thick and tasty.
For me, this is real good sour cream Suitable for me and my family
Aygul
To make sour cream on cream? Which fat content is better than 10 or 20?
irysska
Quote: Aygul

To make sour cream on cream? Which fat content is better than 10 or 20?
Yes, with cream. I always do 10-12% - quite enough, 20% - for me both fat and thick. Although it won't be 20% worse.
Here is my sour cream with 10% cream - as you can see, the spoon is standing, the sour cream is thick.
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Mona1
Quote: irysska

Yes, with cream. I always do 10-12% - quite enough, 20% - for me both fat and thick. Although it won't be 20% worse.
Here is my sour cream with 10% cream - as you can see, the spoon is standing, the sour cream is thick.
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Irish, are you going to re-ferment this sour cream with a part of this sour cream, or with sour cream it is impossible like with yogurt?
fronya40
Quote: irysska

Tan, if you need to set the correct temperature, it will be. Come in handy
everything, I am already a HAPPY owner !!!!! : girl_skakalka: like this - just whistle to me!

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