Bamix M200 Superbox blender and the entire Bamix blender family

And I come to you. The other day I took it, now we prepare fruit cream in the evenings. There are a lot of frozen berries, sour cream, sugar mmmmm, it turns out so tenderly. And they still made smoothies. But I'll dream up with ice cream today. I also want to try to make minced meat. With the purchase of a blender, I had so many culinary ideas and I want to try to implement everything)))

I also want to try to make minced meat.

Try it, but you are unlikely to get something good. Bamiks for raw meat do not work ... this is not their element ...

Try it, but you are unlikely to get something good. Bamiks for raw meat do not work ... this is not their element ...

Somehow you are too categorical. I am often too lazy to pull out the combine with a normal meat grinder, I make minced meat with Bamiks for two all the time.
Of course, a meat grinder will work better. But Bamix handles small amounts of meat in portions.

Of course, a meat grinder will work better. But Bamix handles small amounts of meat in portions.

Of course, the taste and color ... But what Bamix does with raw meat - even with a knife attachment, even in SliceSy - I don't like at all ... Meat in chunks, and a knitting mass.

Of course, the taste and color ... But what Bamix does with raw meat - even with a knife attachment, even in SliceSy - I don't like at all ... Meat in chunks, and a knitting mass.

Any device with this type of knife will produce a similar result. I had 2 of these "choppers". SliceSy - with the same success. A screw meat grinder - that's what a full-fledged minced meat is preparing!

Bamiks for raw meat do not work ... this is not their element ...

With this approach, we should not talk about Bamixes, but about any blenders, and household grinders ... I am not an expert, but based on the experience of using 2 blenders and 2 grinders, I agree with you with this amendment

Finally, I bought a blender yesterday, URAAA !!! I took the Gastro 200 model, 600 and 300 ml cups. received as a gift. Too bad the 900 ml jug. cannot be purchased separately. I arrived late yesterday, I haven't had time to try it yet.
Now all in the thought about the attachments. Do I need SliceSy or not ... They write that there are pieces of vegetables. Carrots, if you press harder, the combine stops.
I asked what is the difference between a chopper attachment and a processor attachment, I looked at the same knives. I was kind of told that the chopper attachment is an old model, and the processor attachment is new and a disc attachment fits to it. That is, if you buy a nozzle, it is better to take a processor nozzle, since only a disk nozzle fits to it? Accordingly, it has additional. the function of rubbing in contrast to the grinder attachment. Did I understand correctly?
Does anyone have a Bamix recipe book? The book contains recipes from the office. site? I forgot to ask about the book in the store, I was in a hurry.

Congratulations on your purchase! Oh, as I understand you, she herself was tormented for a long time to take slices or not ... The decisive disadvantages were: firstly, the slice has a small volume, secondly, a small hole for vegetables = fruits, and thirdly, the power for grating and chopped dough I don't need it (there is a meat grinder for meat). As a result, instead of slicing I bought a Philips harvester - I'm very happy! I could buy a mill, but a friend lends it to me, 2 kg of powdered sugar is enough for me for a year. And for other purposes, an old Mulinex grinder is enough.

Yes, at the expense of "native" glasses, do not bother, buy yourself the simplest liter plastic jug, it is more convenient for me, with my arthritis, to use it than Bamiksov's 900ml glass with an upper grip, I have not seen a liter "native" jug with us ... Here the main thing is that the container is narrow and high, even in half-liter sour cream plastic cups I beat when I make an egg + sour cream omelet)) Without any pathos and snobbery - I did not notice the difference in the mixing quality)))

I didn't understand anything about the attachments, there are only four of them: a knife (for meat, fish), a pancake (whips), with holes (mixes "mayonnaise") and a universal one with a curved blade. What nozzles are you talking about?

There are no recipe books, there is a booklet in each box, there are recipes on the site, but there is nothing like that.

I highly recommend taking 200W

Please argue. I used 140 and 200 - I didn't notice any difference, except for the design ...

I used 140 and 200 - I didn't notice any difference, except for the design ...

Oh, I have already said many times that power is not reflected in rotational speed in any way. Power is reflected only in the scrolling of the nozzle when grinding or mixing complex (viscous, thick, etc.) products. So I recently grinded thick products, the power of 140W was enough, but the nozzle could not stand it and, having stalled, jumped off So ... there is no fundamental difference between 140W or 200W

So ... there is no fundamental difference between 140W or 200W

Here, here, I'm talking about the same! Another bamiks consultant told me that there is no difference between the weakest and the strongest model, noticeable for a simple user, this is a marketing move - the more power, the more "buns" in the form of accessories included in the kit. In any case, I am very pleased with my bamix, although I use it mainly for whipping milk for coffee, frothy cocoa for a child, and for pancakes, omelets, since 140 mono has a wall holder. We did not go home mayonnaise, the cream soup, nevertheless, grinds the stationary mixer into a more homogeneous and thin cream.

Today I whipped cheap milk "Red Price" 2.5% from the refrigerator, not from the freezer - the foam is amazing !!!

Today I whipped cheap milk "Red Price" 2.5% from the refrigerator, not from the freezer - the foam is amazing !!!

Yes, milk from the refrigerator is obtained as a frothy cocktail, and crystallized, not ice-cold, from the freezer is a creamy dessert

Yes, milk from the refrigerator is obtained as a frothy cocktail, and crystallized, not ice-cold, from the freezer is a creamy dessert

But not all milk produces such strong foam! Buttermilk, for example, does not foam ... I have frozen milk in cubes for him, someone here advised me, sorry, I don’t remember the nickname. Somehow it will be necessary to put an experiment on which milk lasts longer after the freezer. So far, experience shows that all "long-lasting" milk from the refrigerator froths better than "quick-souring" milk.

I kept trying to remember what kind of milk was the last time I whipped it until creamy on a pomegranate milkshake. If I am not mistaken, it was Opole 3.2%. But I have not come across the fact that the crystallized milk is not absorbed. Although, I have not tried low-fat or low-fat

Hello!

And in the mini-grinder (which is with a grinding disc), the knife is removed?

And another question: at low speed vibration is noticeable, if you start the engine, you just hold the blender in your hands; while at high speed vibration, one might say, is absent - do you have that?

And further...

I did not find such a problem in this thread: a very shitty knife changing system on the blender itself. Not only are they small and sharp, but also difficult to hook with your fingers because of the "crown". When the knife is dirty, it is generally an ambush. Each time you have to rinse it under running water. There is no such problem with "simple" blenders.

By the way, please see if there is a longitudinal play of the spindle? When you pull on the nozzle, it is noticeable that it extends by about a millimeter and a half, and you feel how the rotor rests (what does it rest against there? Probably against the sleeve. I doubt that there are bearings ^ _ ^) with such a characteristic "tyk "...

Now I went and pulled the spindle: it moves noticeably back and forth ... Something is annoying me.

[Hamstеr]

Hamstеr , welcome to the forum!

And in the mini-grinder (which is with a grinding disc), the knife is removed?

Filmed.

Now I went and pulled the spindle: it moves noticeably back and forth ... Something is annoying me.

Yes, it is moving.

very bad knife change system on the blender itself.

At first it was also inconvenient, you have to adapt. I slip two fingers (index and middle) under the knife and pry on. (wrote in).

[Omela]

Omela, thank you very much!

So how do you remove the knife from the mill? To pull with all the dope, chtoli? Or somehow you can remove the plastic "pip" from the outside?

Although I don’t know about the mini-grinder .. I don’t have a grinding disc inside, but a double knife .. here it is removed.

About this:

At first it was also inconvenient, you have to adapt. I slip two fingers (index and middle) under the knife and pry on. (wrote in).

I wrote it as it is)))) - I also put them in and put them on)))) And I also had to adapt first.
I always rinse my leg with a nozzle first, and then remove the nozzle.

There is one important point here - before removing, you MUST disconnect from the electricity. The buttons are soft, I almost knocked my fingers at first

Omela, in a grinder, that without a disc the knife looks different: it is molded into plastic along with half the pin. Perhaps this one is removed. That is, of course, it is removed, since you can remove it;)

And in a grater with a disc, the pin is completely "iron", and the knife is attached by two holes to a plastic sleeve, from which the pin sticks out. And you can't take it off.

Moreover, the picture shows that everything is filmed, but a knife of a different system - as in your Omela picture. On the blender itself (Superbox equipment) the date 2012-9 may have changed the equipment.

I will strain the sellers in MediaMarkte, they like to throw glasses and arrange other stupid demonstrations - let them try to take off the knife;)
By the way, it seems to me alone that for a device that has such a straightforward historical history, it has a lot of minor flaws, flaws - I don't know what to call them; in short, it's not clear what they were doing there for sixty years ... I'll write it down later, maybe someone will be interested - not all the same talking about chopped milk ^ _ ^

Today my husband just howled a chopper with a wiping disc and asked about the knife. It does not come off. The container is removed with it. There, behind two things, click on the arrow and the container will be removed (although there was a question about the knife, but just in case, I'll remind you about it)

I remove knives the same way as girls - with my fingers

And in the mini-grinder (which is with a grinding disc), the knife is removed?

NO

And another question: at low speed vibration is noticeable, if you start the engine, you just hold the blender in your hands; while at high speed vibration, one might say, is absent - do you have that?

This is due to the gearbox, which forcibly reduces the speed by increasing the force, something like this. Not strong in mechanics ... In a car it is called "at low revs", I think.

By the way, please see if there is a longitudinal play of the spindle? When you pull on the nozzle, it is noticeable that it extends by about a millimeter and a half, and you feel how the rotor rests (what does it rest against there? Probably against the sleeve. I doubt that there are bearings ^ _ ^) with such a characteristic "tyk "...

There is a backlash for everyone (of those whom I know), it does not affect performance and working capacity!

I did not find such a problem in this thread: a very shitty knife changing system on the blender itself.Not only are they small and sharp, but also difficult to hook with your fingers because of the "crown". When the knife is dirty, it is generally an ambush. Each time you have to rinse it under running water. There is no such problem with "simple" blenders.

You can take off your foot under running water and take off your fingers - no problem. I don't even remove the plug from the outlet, I just hold the blender by my leg when changing attachments ...

That's how I take off the attachments, I think that's exactly what they do ...

Hamster, forgive me, but still a little about milk ...

... But I have not come across the fact that crystallized milk is not absorbed. Although, I have not tried low-fat or low-fat

Whisk, then it whips, but the foam falls off very quickly in some milk ... I am looking for an ideal))

[Doxy]

Doxy, well, where does the gearbox come from?

What's the problem? With a jet? With your fingers?

Lieutenant, I'm blushing.
In short, I briefly painted the lack of a subject. Although, in general, the product is good, but still more compared to analogues, which are somehow quite frivolous. On the whole, Mogambo is satisfied, but it seems that half the cost is charged for "prestige", such as Shvis Made, all the cases ...
Probably, everyone present here read brochures on the subject, watched films, etc.

So, there all the time some engineers, developments and all that jazz are mentioned. However, I personally formed the opinion that if they have an engineer (s) there, then it looks something like this: in the building that is in the picture, sit the director, his deputy, his deputy, sales managers, ry on contacts with someone, secretaries, cleaners ... And behind this building there is such a little shed, like a toilet - there is an engineer. Only he is on vacation.
You say, I'm too critical, and who is he? Well, yes, yes, but judge for yourself:

They write that the device itself has not undergone any special changes since its inception - maybe this is good, but then, the merit here is only that of the very designer (too lazy to look at the name), and a good combination of circumstances. IMHO, the manufacturers of "ordinary" blenders (although Bamiks should be considered as usual, since it is the first) blenders in total have much more useful developments. The trouble is that all of them are "smeared" over different products, and so that all the chips meet in one - does not happen yet, despite globalization. Another problem is that all blenders, at least those that I know, are gross household goods, where cheapness (at least for the manufacturer) and rhinestones are in the first place ...

Take, for example, the Bamiks knife attachment system: yes, it is more reliable, because the spindle is connected to the motor "once and for all", without any plastic "stars" and unnecessary joints. Pros: tightness, absence of backlash (transverse) and, as a consequence, additional vibrations, small-size nozzles and simple design, which makes them easy to wash and store.

However, changing knives itself is inconvenient and traumatic. There is also the question of the hygiene of this system, because since the spindle can rotate, there is a gap there, which inevitably leads to the ingress of processed products into it. It is clear that the story is the same with a removable leg, but it would be possible to change only the leg itself (if there was such a possibility - the inaccessibility of spare parts for household appliances, apparently, there is something like a world conspiracy), and not the entire device. and on hand have only removable legs, and not whole devices. And you don't have to constantly pull from the network. This means that the title of "professional" Bamiks can only be worn by the motor.
About the motor.

I would like to glance at him, but the guarantee is not superfluous. So I judge from the pictures. Let's say they make the motors themselves, the winding, balancing they have there - everything is as it should be. It's fine. The AC motor is great. However, the absence of such motors in the overwhelming mass of household appliances is their cost. In fact, the price of really good DC motors that go into power tools is surprisingly low. Just like a normal open-frame motor is not much more expensive compared to any garbage in a glass.But, you know, when the number of products goes to the millions, and the retail price with all the mark-ups should be such that the product sells well - here every yuan counts, not that there ...

Somewhere I'm not there. So, about the Bamiks motor. Judging by the picture, it has its own external frame, it is also a counter holder, support bushings are pressed into it (or simply put :)). Apparently, the same frame serves as the very "super-duper system for removing heat from the engine." Let's admit. Everything is fine (except for the bushings), but otherwise what would you pay for? Moreover, the frame is necessary, not to plant everything directly into the plastic case (and you could ...). So where is the work of that very engineer - it is not clear. Now, if he would have taken, and turned the motor over with a collector "to the muzzle", like in Fein instruments - then yes. Then one could win in the coverage of the body at the top of it; True, at the bottom it would have become thicker, but apart from the appearance, which is already crap, it would not affect anything. But it would be more convenient to hold.

Plus, perhaps, the same heat dissipation would have improved due to the metal "leg". Although, not a fact. Apparently, ESGE engineers did not like this option - I don’t think that for so many years such an idea did not come.

By the way, why is there no speed control? So it is not really needed (and harmful for a motor without cooling - but there is a low speed, so it does not count), but the controller is cheap. Although, then you have to do the wheel. And the older models of the type are sealed ...
By the way, what for to do so many different options for the engine power and so many different cases and stands? Well, with a motor, okay, only the amount of wire is different, so everything is logical - the weaker, the cheaper. But the buttons are the same, the buttons are so ... Additional production lines only so that the owners of the coolest models do not think, what good, that they bought the same thing, only more expensive? And in general, leaking buttons on a device that works with liquids is not decent for a product from the type of a serious manufacturer.
More about safety and convenience: they would have made a detachable cord. First, it's just convenient. Secondly, it would be possible to pull it not from the outlet, but from the device itself - this, again, is more convenient, and therefore there is less temptation to change the nozzle with the device turned on. Of course, when washing, there is a chance of water getting on the contacts (if the cord were still removable), however, the possibility of it getting into the buttons does not bother anyone (or are there any seals for models without external rubber?).
Tired of writing, but I think you are tired of reading. Since this reading and writing has no meaning, whether this text is even complete nonsense, even a revelation - we will have only what we have at the moment ...
I will only write a little about Slicy, because to make a plastic grater, which was not actually invented yesterday, and which is produced in different versions by all and sundry (with varying degrees of success), you don’t need to be an engineer.
You can't wash the top. Wai-wai-wai. What's wrong with that? Two plastic gears coated with (God forbid) non-toxic grease? And if we could not make the gearbox collapsible (since it is simply impossible not to assemble it back :)) - it would be something to be proud of. Hygiene, again. And then, like a fool, wipe it with a cloth. And it's okay to take and wash.

And as long as the gearbox does not differ from that of any penny blender (well, the material, if only), they would have done it so that it uh ... different. If they had a planetarium, that would be yes. Given that everything is plastic, and the quality of the fit of the parts is at the level of "yes tea will not fall off immediately" the question is only in the molds. But it would be more difficult to stop the motor with a carrot.
By the way, what is the general difference between slice and other similar structures, to which a motor is also attached for the same money? Removable bottom? Not very impressive. The fact that the lid is not fixed, because of what everything rattles much more than it could? Probably this.Of course, I understand that everything can be quickly assembled, disassembled, removed with almost one hand, and the drive itself just attached and that's it; do not forget just to make sure that he puts on exactly and to the end, otherwise, I think, you will have to go for a new slice; and you can get hurt. By the way, there are much more potentially dangerous situations with this device than with any blender "for a thousand rubles from Auchan", don't you think?
Okay, tired already. I, perhaps, will not say that through the holes in the lid of the mill, products tend to outward, and although they do not always succeed in this, they still foul their leg. And I will not say anything about the flimsy stand either, although here the saving of plastic is not clear to me at all. So are the cups. A pitcher, by the way, is generally the apotheosis of the triumph of design ideas over thought as such. And it is inconvenient to hold, and if you bend the "nose" of the lid properly, you cannot close it back without removing the entire lid ... Well, the very quality of the cases, and everything else, is somehow not very Swiss. I have a few Swiss devices with motors, where, in addition to these motors, there is still a lot of things - somehow this Bamix of yours did not lie nearby. Although, for some reason, those devices are cheaper than a dead motor in a plastic cup (although some are more expensive, but there it is at least clear what you pay for :)).

And who uses TURMIX? There are bearings, a floating suspension of the motor, and a comfortable handle, and the knives are removed by pressing a button, and not just pulling them off ... And 15,000 rubles, and only two nozzles included (and in general in nature, it seems). And that's right, real chefs generally use such things to a minimum.
On the subject: mashed potatoes that are stupid are obtained using a blender. A hand crusher is best in my opinion. Yes, there will be lumps, but there will still be food, not glue, and lumps are still lumps, and not whole missing pieces.

What am I doing wrong? They say that mashed potatoes are best made by Kenwoods with an appropriate nozzle - there the likelihood of bringing to the state of glue is minimal. So, do you need a separate blender for mashed potatoes? IMHO, manual processing is still better, as well as for coffee a manual coffee grinder is best.

[Doxy]

Doxy, well, where does the gearbox come from?

Nevertheless, he is there. Your idea to wash the gearbox is a dream of any housewife! I have nothing to do!

In short, I briefly painted the lack of a subject. Although, in general, the product is good, but still more compared to analogues, which are somehow quite frivolous. On the whole, Mogambo is satisfied, but it seems that half the cost is charged for "prestige", such as Shvis Made, all the cases ...

I have been using it for the second year, I have long forgotten about the price ... Since it simply "plows", and I am not angry at its cost ... Pricing is generally a murky question in any open spaces ...

However, changing knives itself is inconvenient and traumatic. There is also the question of the hygiene of this system, because since the spindle can rotate, there is a gap there, which inevitably leads to the ingress of processed products into it. It is clear that the story is the same with a removable leg, but it would be possible to change only the leg itself (if there was such a possibility - the inaccessibility of spare parts for household appliances, apparently, there is something like a world conspiracy), and not the entire device. and on hand have only removable legs, and not whole devices. And you don't have to constantly pull from the network. This means that the title of "professional" Bamiks can only be worn by the motor.

Risk of injury if not unplugged. As for all other blenders. For a comparison between cleaning and hygiene, try cleaning the same area on blenders with fixed knives. You have to pick around the knife with a toothpick ...

More about safety and convenience: they would have made a detachable cord. First, it's just convenient. Secondly, it would be possible to pull it not from the outlet, but from the device itself - this, again, is more convenient, and therefore there is less temptation to change the nozzle with the device turned on.Of course, when washing, there is a chance of water getting on the contacts (if the cord were still removable), however, the possibility of it getting into the buttons does not bother anyone (or are there any seals for models without external rubber?).
And in general, leaking buttons on a device that works with liquids is not decent for a product from the type of a serious manufacturer.

If the cord were detachable, then an additional vulnerability would appear. It seems that you are talking about mechanics, but there is a persistent feeling that you yourself know the blender (but did you hold it in your hands?) It does not matter ... You don’t suspect about the gearbox, the buttons at Bamiks are completely under the rubber with a huge margin (about 5 centimeters around) .. Where is it even more sealed? That is why it does not bother ... I shamelessly rinse him completely under running water .... Against the rules.

I have a few Swiss devices with motors, where, in addition to these motors, there is still a lot of things - somehow this your Bamix did not lie nearby.

You are trying to give the impression that you bought this blender and are using it, but somehow other goals break through with you.
Oh Hamster, you have another interest in this topic ....

While I was typing, the last message appeared - as they say - without comment ...

[Doxy]

You are trying to give the impression that you bought this blender and are using it, but somehow other goals break through with you.
Oh, Doxi, you have another interest in this topic ....

AAAA, I like bae, what have? !!! My interest here is completely unambiguous - to learn some new tricks with bamixes))))

Doxy, well, where does the gearbox come from?

I don't understand anything about mechanics, don't yell at me)))

In short, I briefly painted the lack of a subject. Although, in general, the product is good, but still more compared to analogues, which are somehow completely frivolous. In general, Mogambo is satisfied, but it seems that half of the cost is charged for "prestige", such as Shvis Made, all the cases ...

It's good that they summed it up from the very beginning. And then, straight, it's scary to read so many letters ...

They write that the device itself has not undergone any special changes since its inception - maybe this is good, but then, the merit here is only that of the very designer (too lazy to look at the name), and a good combination of circumstances.

Here !!! That's exactly why I bought into BAMIX in the hope that it is the declared invariability that guarantees the absence of "inherent aging" of the device! For the same reasons, I want a ZIL refrigerator and 21 VOLGA ...

Take, for example, the Bamiks knife attachment system: yes, it is more reliable, because the spindle is connected to the motor "once and for all", without any plastic "stars" and unnecessary joints. Pros: tightness, absence of backlash (transverse) and, as a consequence, additional vibrations, small-size nozzles and simple design, which makes them easy to wash and store.
However, changing knives itself is inconvenient and traumatic. There is also the question of the hygiene of this system, because since the spindle can rotate, there is a gap there, which inevitably leads to the ingress of processed products into it. It is clear that the story is the same with a removable leg, but it would be possible to change only the leg itself (if there was such a possibility - the inaccessibility of spare parts for household appliances, apparently, there is something like a world conspiracy), and not the entire device. and only have removable legs at hand, not whole devices. And you don't have to constantly pull from the network. This means that the title of "professional" Bamiks can only be worn by the motor.

The description of the desired technical characteristics, the same as the search for the ideal husband or wife - you will not find! You still need to put up with some shortcomings, but it's better to love them)))

About the motor.

I would like to glance at him, but the guarantee is not superfluous. So I judge from the pictures. Let's say they make the motors themselves, winding, balancing they have there - everything is as expected. It's fine. The AC motor is great. However, the absence of such motors in the overwhelming mass of household appliances is their cost.In fact, the price of really good DC motors that go into power tools is surprisingly low. Just like a normal open-frame motor is not much more expensive compared to any garbage in a glass. But, you know, when the number of products goes to the millions, and the retail price with all the mark-ups should be such that the product sells well - here every yuan counts, not that there ...

Somewhere I'm not there. So, about the Bamiks motor. Judging by the picture, it has its own external frame, it is also a counter holder, support bushings are pressed into it (or simply put :)). Apparently, the same frame serves as the very "super-duper system for removing heat from the engine." Let's admit. Everything is fine (except for the bushings), but otherwise what would you pay for? Moreover, the frame is necessary, not to plant everything directly into the plastic case (and you could ...). So where is the work of that very engineer - it is not clear. Now, if he would have taken, and turned the motor over with a collector "to the muzzle", like in Fein instruments - then yes. Then one could win in the coverage of the body at the top of it; True, at the bottom it would have become thicker, but apart from the appearance, which is already crap, it would not affect anything. But it would be more convenient to hold.

Plus, perhaps, the same heat dissipation would have improved due to the metal "leg". Although, not a fact. Apparently, ESGE engineers did not like this option - I don’t think that for so many years such an idea did not come.

By the way, why is there no speed control? So it is not really needed (and harmful for a motor without cooling - but there is a low speed, so it does not count), but the controller is cheap. Although, then you have to do the wheel. And the older models of the type are sealed ...

Who are you talking to now?

I will only write a little about Slicy, because to make a plastic grater, which was not actually invented yesterday, and which is produced in different versions by all and sundry (with varying degrees of success), you don’t need to be an engineer.

You can't wash the top. Wai-wai-wai. What's wrong with that? Two plastic gears coated with (God forbid) non-toxic grease? And if we could not make the gearbox collapsible (since it is simply impossible not to assemble it back :)) - it would be something to be proud of. Hygiene, again. And then, like a fool, wipe it with a cloth. And it's okay to take and wash.

And as long as the gearbox does not differ from that of any penny blender (well, the material, if only), they would have done it so that it uh ... different. If they had a planetarium, that would be yes. Given that everything is plastic, and the quality of the fit of the parts is at the level of "yes tea will not fall off immediately" the question is only in the molds. But it would be more difficult to stop the motor with a carrot.

I agree with you about slices ... The coolest notion is to take out EVERYTHING in one motion, but this (for me personally) ended its pluses.

Doxi, sorry, beguiled - the post above from me was addressed to Hamster. More precisely, his "analysis" of Bamiks.

[Macha]

Macha, reducer is a general name for devices for lowering, decreasing something. In this case, we are talking about a decrease in speed. This operation is performed using toothed rings with a different number of teeth. On the driven wheel - a little, on the driven wheel - a lot. There is no reducer in the drive itself and cannot be. Although, the planetary could be put there, but nobody needs it at all.

The reducer is in Slice. And I would like to serve him. That is, I don't need this, but the very possibility would not interfere.
About injuries. Yesterday I didn't remove the disc from the shaft, just rinsed it under the tap and that's it. Yes, but it stuck. Scratched a little. It is clear that he himself is to blame, but no one will deny the difficulty of reaching the attachment for simple human fingers, I hope.
Are the buttons for simpler models Mono, Classic, etc., are they also sealed? It looks no, and the instructions say that only Shvisline and Gastro can safely poke into the slurry.

Actually, I immediately said that the blender is good, but for some reason there is no delight.
By the way, on Yandexmarket, or there was infa, like a carrot, you can stop the engine when using Slice. Maybe there was another drive, and Slisya, bought separately? Schwissline does not even slow down especially, although I normally pressed Carrot is probably rather weak :)

[rings]

with toothed rings with different number of teeth

Wheels, of course, the mother-crush. Probably thinking about carrot rings when I wrote ^ _ ^

[Macha]

Macha, reducer is a general name for devices for lowering, decreasing something. In this case, we are talking about a decrease in speed. This operation is performed using toothed rings with a different number of teeth. On the driven wheel - a little, on the driven wheel - a lot. There is no reducer in the drive itself and cannot be. Although, the planetary could be put there, but nobody needs it at all.

The reducer is in Slice. And I would like to serve him. That is, I don't need this, but the very possibility would not interfere.
About injuries. Yesterday I didn't remove the disc from the shaft, just rinsed it under the tap and that's it. Yes, but it stuck. Scratched a little. It is clear that he himself is to blame, but no one will deny the difficulty of reaching the attachment for simple human fingers, I hope.
Are the buttons for simpler models Mono, Classic, etc., are they also sealed? It looks no, and the instructions say that only Shvisline and Gastro can safely poke into the slurry.

Actually, I immediately said that the blender is good, but for some reason there is no delight.
By the way, on Yandexmarket, or there was infa, like a carrot, you can stop the engine when using Slice. Maybe there was another drive, and Slisya, bought separately? Schwissline does not even slow down especially, although I normally pressed Carrot is probably rather weak :)

Regarding the gearbox - "is it not and cannot be on the drive?" Information on this account:
The Bamix has only two switching speeds. How are they achieved? The second speed is the fastest (17000 rpm) and the shaft with a nozzle works directly with the motor shaft. And the first speed is reduced and the speed of rotation is reduced (12000 rpm) due to the REDUCER (gears), that is, the speed of rotation of the motor shaft is reduced by the reducer. This is an analogue of a car gearbox. The first speed has much more ROTATION FORCE, but the speed of rotation is lower, while the second has the opposite.
Now let's figure out the speeds of blenders with 5-6-7-8 speeds. How does their speed decrease? And their speed decreases by lowering the voltage supplied to the motor due to resistors (step rheostat). But in this case, with a decrease in voltage, the speed of rotation of the shaft decreases, but at the same time the power on the shaft also decreases. Therefore, in my opinion, at the lowest speeds of rotation of the shaft, the power on the shaft drops significantly and it is much lower than 250 watts. That is, with Bamix, the shaft power is always constant, because the voltage does not change (the voltage is constant). And with other blenders, this power is variable, as the voltage changes (decreases or increases). Some of these blenders even have a SMOOTH change in rotation speed. Such blenders have an ordinary rheostat (variable resistance).
What conclusion can be drawn from this? And such that Bamix can mix something thick, viscous at a low speed, but on other blenders this is difficult to do, since at a reduced speed there may not be enough engine rotation power, since the engine will work with significant overloads, it will get very hot. it can stop and in the end it will not withstand the load and burn out. What we often see. Bamix is ​​not particularly threatening, as there is enough power at low speed !!

The above applies exclusively to the drive.
I have a Schwissline Superbox.
And about injuries - the second year of operation and only once was there an injury (although I sin by climbing to the attachments with the device connected). She took out (soaked) a knife for chopping meat (such a huge one, not a nozzle) from the sink (soaked) and took (and carefully) the blades. Immediately cut.

Yes Yes.It’s a pity you didn’t quote about the power on the shaft - very informative. It’s scary to think about the power consumption of this shaitan machine. Although it's okay - 400 watts should be. Only then will it be large for female hands.


I also liked about rheostats in electrical appliances, which are stepped and conventional

And I, a fool, thought that the rheostat
How can one write such a junta, I do not understand. Traffic from people, apparently, is enough only to lay out their profound opuses about the structure of the country of unlearned lessons.
And yet, I'm just wondering, HOW does the gearbox switch itself just by pressing one or the other button?
Okay, I looked at the addresses of the services, I'll ask what the Bamiks have inside. I can't find his scheme in the internet ... I don't want to disassemble mine.

Nobody will deny the difficulty of accessing the attachment for simple human fingers, I hope.
Are the buttons for simpler models Mono, Classic, etc., are they also sealed? It looks no, and the instructions say that only Shvisline and Gastro can safely poke into the slurry.

I don't know, maybe I have some kind of not simple human fingers, but I don't notice any inaccessibility

I can't say about Mono, but the Classic buttons are also sealed. Here at the Zepter, the buttons are not sealed. And, by the way, I like them more - it's easier for me to press the Zepter for many years and over the years I have not felt the difficulties that you describe here (the same applies to the "one-year-old" bamix)

My last post about the reducer-figurator. I do not want to clog this topic anymore, since it has no practical meaning, and is generally not interesting.

By the way, the fact that there is no reducer in Bamiks (yes, it works fine anyway, this reducer was given to someone), it is clear and so, by two simple signs:

The sound of the engine is changing (by the way, there is no sound of the gearbox at all - why would it be), whereas in devices with a gearbox, the engine always works in one mode (if there is no additional electronic speed control)

The jerk when turned on at the first speed is lower than at the second. This jerk occurs when the rotor is spinning, the gyroscopic effect is called. If there were a reducer, such a difference would not be observed - see the first paragraph. (Right now, that very clever uncle with a rheostat will say that at first speed, together with the magic elven gearbox, which switches itself, and even freewheeling, and under load (Nobel prize!), A smooth start is also turned on And at high speed it is disabled, so that the food does not have time to understand anything)

By the way, could you ask that uncle to measure the torque? And then I "by eye" do not understand at what speed it is easier to stop it. There, and the speed does not differ much, something like 22 and 17k. So I don't feel the difference between 0.1 and 0.09 Nm

Yes Yes. It’s a pity you didn’t quote about the power on the shaft - very informative. It’s scary to think about the power consumption of this shaitan machine. Although it's okay - 400 watts should be. Only then will it be large for female hands.

If you were the real owner of this shaitan machine, you would easily have grasped this secret - it is written in large letters on the end of the drive, there are such numbers 230 V and 200 W ...

And so, this is blah-blah-blah, aimed at

And who uses TURMIX? There are bearings, a floating suspension of the motor, and a comfortable handle, and the knives are removed by pressing a button, and not just pulling them off ... And 15,000 rubles, and only two nozzles included (and in general in nature, it seems). And that's right, real chefs generally use such things to a minimum.

Fool people's heads, and not particularly talented, let's just say ... And in the wrong place.
Happy Holidays! And the best in your field!

By the way, the fact that there is no reducer in Bamiks (yes, it works fine anyway, this reducer was given to someone), it is clear and so ...

Indeed, to put it mildly, why does a goat need a button accordion? Most likely there is no mechanical gearbox in Bamiks.The legend about his mechanical gearbox was first voiced on one of the Odessa [forums, and now where not (and on this page too) this information is quoted, or excerpts from it, like the truth.
By 99.9 percent I am sure that the solution with switching speeds (and power!) In Bamiks is the simplest: a different number of turns of the AC motor winding is involved. This is indirectly confirmed by the fact that at first speed Bamiks has less rpm and less power, which is elementary felt in the work.
For the competent (i.e. those who have seen and know what a mechanical gearbox is) who doubt or disagree

This means that the title of "professional" Bamiks can only be worn by the motor.

Plus, perhaps, the same heat dissipation would have improved due to the metal "leg". Although, not a fact. Apparently, ESGE engineers did not like this option - I don’t think that such an idea did not come up for so many years.

Nowhere and never was Bamiks positioned as a professional technique. Unless our would-be marketers in our stores, in order to justify a noticeably higher price ...

With the removal of heat due to the metal "leg", the possibility of breaking ice is buried, since the lesson will be unpromising in terms of the result ...

Shl. In general, the post is a very lengthy reasoning from the personal bell tower ...

ZYZY. Evaluate what our Soviet industry produced 30 years ago. If it was still released in some kind of Muhosransk, then who would take imported Chinese Philips, Brown and hedgehog with them ... But, - however, the patent ...

ZYZY. Estimate what 🔗 produced our soviet industry 30 years ago. If it was still released in some kind of Muhosransk, then who would take imported Chinese Philips, Brown and hedgehog with them ... But, - however, the patent ...

I found this Meteor on Daru-dar - really Bamiks!)))))))))))))) With a sovetsky cord and plug))))

Yesterday I became the proud owner of Classic М140
And why didn't I do it before ?! I had Phillips, Cash, and Redmond. I bought a Bosch 7800 last summer. If you add up the cost of all these blenders ... All these blenders have one problem - where the leg joins. A plastic crap flew on Boch on Saturday, a small one, and without it the blender will not work in any way. In Bamiks I really liked the fact that the leg is not removable. For me personally, this is almost the most important plus.

[Lenochka]

Lenochka, congratulations on your purchase! I also have Classic, I'm happy!

I did a little milk frothing experiment with 3.2% of different manufacturers. And this is what happened

1. Opole

2. House in the village, melted

3. Cheerful milkman

4. I don't remember the manufacturer, from a soft bag with a short shelf life

Between the first three, I did not notice a special one. But the fourth milk whipped worse - it did not reach the state of the cream. I beat it repeatedly. The result was unchanged.

Yesterday I became the proud owner of Classic М140
And why didn't I do it before ?!

I sincerely CONGRATULATE!
You can talk a lot about the exaggerated cost of the Bamixes, but ... They are worth it, that's for sure!
Just yesterday I thought - well, how convenient it is to use it and what a wonderful result you get!

... Probably, with the presence of Burner, Slicey is not needed, he really stands idle ...
But all the nozzles and the mill are in great demand!

Hi everybody! I spent a long time choosing the best blender option. Stopped at Bamix SuperBox. I bought it through the bamiz.biz website (bamix-, Swiss- are all the stores of one firm). I went to their pick-up point and bought a Bamix SuperBox for 10,700 rubles. (although the website shows the price of 13,090 rubles, you can get a discount - you just need to call and say that you want to buy by self and at a discount!

by the way ... apart from Bamix they also have brands Valera, Nivona, Swiss Diamond, Silga, etc. for 75,000 thousand rubles)
Reason for editing: the character was changed from advertising to informational.

The Bamix M160 Deluxe is my purchase today. A long road led me to him. At first I could not find it anywhere in the city, then I bought Brown (and I still don’t regret it). Then I found where to buy Bamixes but ... the toad began to choke. And this year my faithful Brown began to fail and I decided. And I was happy today. I’m sitting bloated from the huge amount of milkshake I had drunk. I dreamed of this for a hundred years. Milk + sugar. powder + fresh berries and some ice cream. Memories from childhood. How happy I am ...

Hello! I really want this mixer for myself, but since no one in my environment has it, some questions are brewing:
1. Is it really quieter than conventional mixers?
2. What is the difference between the mono series and the classic series apart from mounting?
3. Is it possible to make a homogeneous mass such as cottage cheese and what nozzle?
4. How is the pancake whipped milk? Is it just a flat pancake, or something special?

Hello! I really want this mixer for myself, but since no one in my environment has it, some questions are brewing:
1. Is it really quieter than conventional mixers?
2. What is the difference between the mono series and the classic series apart from mounting?
3. Is it possible to make a homogeneous mass such as cottage cheese and what nozzle?
4. How is milk whipped with a pancake? Is it just a flat pancake, or something special?

Hello!
1. I won't say about other blenders - I didn't have others. And if you compare with mixers, then yes, quieter.
2. As far as I remember, the difference in power (the mono has less), but I could be wrong - I did not specify.
3. Of course, you can purée. Universal nozzle.
4. The disc is mounted at an angle. Whips at high speed. But the milk must be strong, very strongly chilled.

Hello! I really want this mixer for myself, but since no one in my environment has it, some questions are brewing:
1. Is it really quieter than conventional mixers?
2. What is the difference between the mono series and the classic series apart from mounting?
3. Is it possible to make a homogeneous mass such as cottage cheese and what nozzle?
4. How is milk whipped with a pancake? Is it just a flat pancake, or something special?

1- Yes, it is really quieter!
2. The classic buttons are rubberized in mono iron (mono looks more vintage), well, the difference in the mount (stand) Power 140 for both!
3. Yes, you can make a homogeneous mass, put cottage cheese, a little milk or sour cream in a glass and get a cream! If you want to grind just dry cottage cheese, this will take more effort and time, of course. Curd grains will remain early!
4. Pancake - flat, but soldered to the base at an angle, rotating forms an ellipse, due to which whipping occurs. Take a closer look at professional cocktail machines, they have the same principle - pancake and high speed!

[Doxy, manna]

Doxy, manna
Thank you very much, everything is clear! I forgot something else
1. Is it possible to beat eggs on it faster than a conventional mixer-blender?
2. And how long is this very chilled milk whipped? And can it then be warmed up so that the foam does not fall? And then I love cappuccino very much, but there it is better to have warmer milk ...

1. Eggs, in my opinion, are better beaten with a hand mixer - whisk. Bamiks cannot whip up a strong foam.
2. Cold milk is whipped for 5-10 seconds, depending on the volume. I spread the froth on the coffee, it does not heat up quickly, it remains pleasantly cool, some of it dissolves, some remains a dense fine-bubble cap. You can also whip hot milk, but the cap is not so beautiful - it is large-bubble and unstable ...

Hello! Happy owners of bamix! Today I am interested in the topic of slice. Please tell us how you use the smallest grater? I can't apply it anywhere. Potato pancakes are too problematic with her, they turn out to be shaggy, it's inconvenient to work, but I don't know what to do with her anymore

1. Eggs, in my opinion, are better beaten with a hand mixer - whisk.Bamiks cannot whip up a strong foam.

that's after all ... one of the main reasons (well, except milk), because of which I want this device I do not like to beat with a mixer - very loud! I wanted something quieter, but it looks like ... maybe someone mastered beating eggs?

And about milk - we have a coffee machine, so while the milk is cooked it is a little warm, so I would like all the hot milk. Have you tried putting it in the microwave after the formation of a thick foam? Doesn't it settle?

... Potato pancakes are too problematic with her, they are shaggy, it is inconvenient to work ...

It's perfect for potato pancakes! You just need this recipe:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=219121.0

1. Is it possible to beat eggs on it faster than a conventional mixer-blender?

1. Eggs beaten too quickly. You can beat them easily. I beat only at a reduced (first) speed. I agree that it is better to beat the cream with a mixer (precisely because it is easy to beat with a disc)

Please tell us how you use the smallest grater? I can't apply it anywhere. Potato pancakes are too problematic with her, they turn out to be shaggy, it is inconvenient to work, and I don't know what to do with her anymore

I use it for potato pancakes and carrots for carrot salad. Although sometimes I make potato pancakes and average.

Have you tried putting it in the microwave after the formation of a thick foam? Doesn't it settle?

At room temperature, it does not settle for about an hour. It didn’t even occur to me to heat, somehow it was useless. But I think it will liquefy from heating.

It's perfect for potato pancakes! You just need this recipe: h 🔗

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