Bread maker Supra BMS-350

Arkady has not seen oatmeal for a long time. As for the additional proofing, I generally unplug the plug from the outlet, I do not pause it, because the pause also keeps heating so that it does not overstay and does not ooze.

[aquamarin]

aquamarin, so the heating should be for proofing, since a pause is put on it. Actually, I always thought that there should be a pause on everything, including heating.

The instructions for the stove mention a double form (and there is a mode for it), which the ROLSEN RBM-1480 stoves definitely have (it is a GORENJE BM1400E clone). Their baking size is the same, I looked closely at Rolsen myself (up to 1400/1500, depending on which instructions to read to them). My feeling is that the buckets we have with them may be the same. Not the Supra office to afford exclusive buckets.
And, if Rolsen, nevertheless, is the same trash as Supra, then Burning is a more impressive company and they can be supplied from it through s / c. But first, I'll call the supra / rolsen. They will definitely have them cheaper.
Let's hope that, as they say in their songs, my call is important to them ...



Phoned again

Today for the first time I baked bread with potato broth. I read that the dough on it rises very well, but it never came to my hand, we rarely eat potatoes. And today I finally made sure that this is the ideal liquid for bread dough. And even the addition of bran, which I always sinned for (that they interfere with the raising of the dough), did not spoil the bread, but only improved it.
If anyone is interested in the recipe, then here it is. Bread with cheese, dill and bran https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=372781.0

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We come here more often, and it's even better to register in this topic for a long time Table of contents of the section "Ingredients for bread", about potatoes is written here Potatoes - use for dough

[Admin]

Admin, added to bookmarks, I will study. Thank you!!!

[Admin]

Admin, added to bookmarks, I will study. Thank you!!!

I'm waiting for new bread!

[Admin]

Admin, there will definitely be new bread. This is a new hobby for me. I can't wait for the bread to run out, to bake a new one

[Arkady _ru]

Arkady _ru,
Thank you, Arkady, for such valuable information on spare buckets.
I listened to something today to the HP, when she was kneading, and it seemed to me that the mixers were scraping along the bottom of the bucket, I was so scared, then it seemed they stopped, so your information is very useful.

And here is my handsome man, 600 grams of wheat flour, almost crawled out of the bucket, the bread yield is about a kilogram. Question - on 800 grams of flour, will it climb under the roof or stop there? In general, the principle of the kolobok is well understood, I put a can of flour for filling next to the HP, usually I have to add a couple of handfuls, but the roof does not fall anymore.
Another question, I have a simple Saf yeast moment, they need to be dissolved, but I just put it in flour. or do you have to dissolve first?

[Anna Warp]

Anna Warp, dry yeast is poured onto flour on top

[Idea]

Idea, with a spare bucket of other Brands, suitable for the 350th, has not yet been decided. By the 250th from Rollsen 1309 without adaptation, that is, partial alteration, for example, will not arise. So it is not known yet whether it will fit from 1480 Rolsen to the subject ...
The design of the drive of any type excludes the possibility of scraping along the bottom of the bucket with blades.

[Anna Warp]

Anna Warp, read the instructions in the book, where the maximum flour is indicated.
That's always the case, the instructions are read last (that's why electronic thermometers for some show the temperature of the cooling body).

In the instructions, a maximum of 800 grams of flour is possible, but I am practically interested in whether someone baked 800 grams of bread or not, and how it turned out. I read the instructions, but we all know what are inaccurate or incorrect instructions.

a spare bucket of other Brands, suitable for the 350th, has not yet been determined.

It's a pity, but I rolled out my lips.

[Idea]

Idea, yes, I've rolled it out too, but for some reason few people want to go the easy way and rivet their bucket. Although it is suitable for the 250th from Phillips, but Fili does not have such large x \ n like the 350th.
Anna Warp, I wouldn't 800, I would continue with 700. Pure wheat 800 will spread throughout the whole bread machine, as it seems to me.

The design of the drive of any type excludes the possibility of scraping along the bottom of the bucket with blades.

A friend of mine handed the Panasonic back to the store because of a loud grinding noise during the operation of the HP, she says that the blade scraped along the bottom.

[Idea]

Idea, this is only if the locking ring of the shaft on the drive in the bucket breaks / is forgotten to put and the shaft goes down. And you will immediately see the coating inside the bucket. This is already a malfunction.
In a serviceable x / n, this possibility is excluded even at the design stage.

[Arkady]

Arkady
You are right, the store recognized the factory malfunction, so you unconditionally replaced it with the same model.

I ask for help and advice! Tell me the pros and cons of this bread machine, is it worth taking? I simply don't have the strength to read the whole topic, I reread so much, my eyes hurt.

This HP is one big fat plus - bread came out the first time, it's fantastic. convenient menu, countdown, well interferes with two paddles. the bucket is inserted conveniently.
only the size is too big, it beeps 10 times, and there are no carrying handles: while I found a place for her, I poked her back and forth in an embrace.
I was so imbued with her that I even bought a mixer too, suprovsky))

Experiments with dumplings dough took place.
Everything is wonderful. They started by eye.
Program 8 mixes very intensively and non-stop for 20 minutes. This is even too much, stopped before.
The beeper signal is not loud at all. Normal.
The bread also turned out.

[lisa567]

lisa567, I have never regretted that I bought this particular HP. She completely suits me, I recommend her to all my friends and acquaintances.

[Olya]

Olya, thanks for the answer! you have 355 in your profile. Was this one too? What problems does it have when using it.

[lisa567]

lisa567, in profile 355, because when choosing on the forum 350 was not in the list, and so I have 350
There have been no problems in use yet t-t-t. The only thing that scares is its size, at first glance it seems huge, but then the eye gets used and everything is fine. But bread can be baked in different sizes: both small and large (up to 1.5 kg). It bakes very well, we are satisfied.

[Olya]

Olya, Thanks again!!!! In the duration of the programs she has what, I did not find something in the instructions. And you can stir the dough for dumplings? What is the minimum bread size?

[lisa567]

lisa567, The main mode is 3 hours, French - 3.40, I did not bake on others (well, I still eat on Baking, but you can put as much there). About dough for dumplings hakernew in the very top message on this page I wrote. I make dough for mantas regularly, for pies and so on. Kneads great, do not knead with your hands.
The minimum size of bread that I baked (and was not too lazy to weigh) is 630g, this was my first bread: 200g of wheat flour, 200g of rye. I haven't tried it with less flour. The maximum weight of my bread (again, which was not too lazy to take a picture) was 1.115g.

[Olya]

Olya, Thanks again! (In the profile does not give more thanks, tomorrow) We have only 3500 thousand expensive. I will think

The only thing that scares you is its size

Why scare people? It is comparable in size to other x \ n for 1.5kg of baking.
I thought ... and what is worse than Moulinex Supra ...? I'll make a rack and bake two muffins. The baguette is not really needed. If you wish, you can purchase a rack from Moulinex inside, only the price will be raised most likely for its components. I'll try the cupcakes first.

I thought ... and what is worse than Supra Moulinex ...?

I heard bread in Moulinex burns, maybe from inability?

[lisa567]

lisa567, but not at all, ask if you still have questions.

Why scare people

Arkady _ru, as far as I remember, you were scared the most of its size I steadfastly endured the view of the unit Once, at first glance, I was slightly scared and came to my senses

and why is Supra worse than Mulinex ...?

And I read that Moulinex breaks more often than others. When I chose HP, I shoveled a bunch of information, Moulinex was immediately deleted from the list.

We have only 3500 thous.

lisa567, but look in online stores. I ordered it there, because in local stores we sell more expensive HP and Mulinex)))

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, well, of course, you will be frightened when the length of half a meter is indicated on the Yulmart website, and the other dimensions are larger than the real ones. In fact, the length is 42, which visually makes a big difference. Even after the 250th model, it didn't seem big to me. Unless if she is the first.
And at the Mulinexes, yes, the jambs are decent, therefore I did not consider them at all.

bread burns in Moulinex,

Someone who burns, someone who is not baked, do not turn the stirrers ... everything is enough. In the latest models, they seem to have worked on this, but the image is already spoiled
So they have a horse power of 1.5 kW. There is no need for such power.

I looked in online stores. Many, where the price is decent, do not deliver to our "village", while others have such delivery that it is easier to take it in a yulmart for 3500.

[lisa567]

lisa567, we have a cheaper model.

Please tell me the real dimensions and weight of the oven and is there a separate "baking" program for rye bread.

[thrift]

thrift.41 * 27 * 30.5cm 6.12kg; no

Now I’m going to bake some bread on the leftover mashed potatoes Who tried it? What are the nuances? Tell me, pliz!

Now I’m going to bake some bread on the leftover mashed potatoes Who tried it? What are the nuances? Tell me, pliz!

There is only one nuance - the dough is very soft, and all the time it seems that you need to add more and more flour. Follow the test

[Tatyana]

Tatyana
And what consistency should the bun be? As elastic as wheat-rye or weaker?

Here is one of the recipes with potatoes https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=136616.0

Recipe:
Jacket potatoes 300 grams
Wheat flour 600 grams
Saf-moment yeast 1.7 tsp.
Sugar 1 tbsp. l.
Salt 2 tsp
Egg 1 pc.
Vegetable oil 4 tbsp. l.
Potato broth 100 ml.
We put all the products in the bucket of the bread machine, turn on the BASIC mode, follow the dough, the bun is like pure wheat bread

[Tatyana]

Tatyana
Thank you, otherwise I read the link, but there is only kneading in HP, and bake in the oven.
And I would like it to be like in your second recipe, only with mashed potatoes instead of potato broth, but in HP. Can't you ?? If asked nonsense, excuse me, I'm a novice baker.

Even if I doubted with mashed potatoes, I'll go to cook my usual favorite wheat-rye. I'll wait with the experiment.

[Idea]

Idea, Tatyana has 99% (what I saw) bread recipes for the oven, but I actively use them for HP, everything works out great.

[Olenka]

Thank you,Olenka, I understand, but you know, I am a coward, I was afraid to spoil the food, mainly flour, I have little of it left, I have to bribe, and now there is no car, so I kneaded my favorite wheat-rye.
We have never eaten, as it seems to me, so much bread before, now I bake every other day.

[Idea]

Idea, I also bake every other day

[Ol]

Ol, and you yourself baked bread on mashed potatoes and water? Not potato broth, but mashed potatoes? After all, I have milk and butter there. I'm afraid to make a mistake with the kolobok.
Tatiana writes on potatoes + potato broth.

[Idea]

Idea, never baked on potatoes. Of vegetable, only pumpkin baked ... many pumpkin baked according to different recipes

from vegetable only pumpkin baked ... a lot of pumpkin according to different recipes

I haven't grown to pumpkin yet.

[Idea]

Idea, everything is the same, just add a pumpkin, nothing complicated
Here's a link:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=368851.0