Bread maker Supra BMS-350

Thank you all for your support, I have already saved this link and looked through it, and I immediately had a question, is everyone sifting flour? Is it really important? Has anyone tried this and that, is there a big difference in the final product? I have 15 minutes left until the end of the process, I set the crust to 2, but so far it is completely light. I wonder if she will have time to brown?
Nathalte, thanks, just read your answer. I didn't bake anything except charlotte and dumpling dough

[Nathalte]

Nathalte, and a little bit is how much? 5-10 minutes to stand after cooking? The daughter is already standing over her soul and asks for bread

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, I take it out immediately after the signal, leave the mold with bread on the board to stand for 10-15 minutes, then remove it from the mold, wait until it cools and cut it. You will still need to get their mixer bread before you start cutting it, there is a special hook included with the HP (in my opinion, not at all convenient). Then write how the bread tasted and the photo, if possible))
I also made the dough for manti in HP by eye. kneading on the function Dough, lasts 1.30 hours, I pulled out after 30 minutes. There were no problems with mixers in this mode.
Nathalte, it is more convenient for me to remove the stirrers immediately. For me, it is unnecessary body movement to extract them from the finished bread, leaving ugly holes in it. I do not use a delayed start, there is no need. Whoever is comfortable, everyone decides for himself

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, Thank you! Thank you all for the advice, I went to get the bread. I'll post a photo later

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, try to immediately pull out the bread, if anything, shake the bucket a little. And it is usually enough to stand for 10-15 minutes, in this HP I had no problems with pulling it out even once.
Lelikovna, and a hot little bread with butter, which melts for breakfast, eh? Wasn't there a temptation?

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, I began to sift the flour when I read the Admin article on the site that this must be done. The bread can be consumed when it cools well, this is also from the Admin article.
We are waiting for the photo !!!

[Nathalte]

Nathalte, I have breakfast at 11-12, I just have time to bake bread))) But seriously, I don't eat bread for breakfast, and even more butter)))

Here is my report! The bread had to be cut hot, because it was time for my daughter to go to bed, and without bread in any. When I cut it inside, I rolled a little, but maybe because it was hot, or maybe it was not baked a little? As I understand in this case, you need a little less water, because I did not have milk powder. It pulled out well from the mold, the sides are more crispy than the top and crispy, but this is probably because the mold is oiled. The top was generally slightly browned, although I put it on a medium crust. In taste and appearance, it resembles loaves (namely loaves, not loaves) of white porous bread, which were sold in the USSR. I don’t know, maybe there’s one like that now, we haven’t been eating bread for 3 years, and we’re buying the easiest one for a child, without everything. My daughter liked it, he says it tastes better than the purchased one. Does the porosity of bread depend on the amount of yeast? In short, I will experiment. Thanks again to everyone for the help! In general, I understood the technology of baking simple bread in this HP

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, congratulations on your initiative! The bread rolled off precisely from cutting it hot, it always happens. If the loaf is high, then yes, often the top is light (we now eat that too). Now try other bread recipes, choose for yourself. I never had milk powder, and I always took water according to the recipe. You can just replace all the water with milk, you can take water and milk in half. With milk, the crust will be more crispy, children like it better.
Open the full answer, there will be an inscription "insert the author's photo into the message" on top.

Hooray, it worked!

Well, this is not a light top, normal. We now eat with a white top.

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, congratulations on the first bread !!!
So big. How much will his daughter eat alone?
Why don't you and your husband eat bread at all? Healthy lifestyle or any other beliefs?
I also did not eat store-bought bread, or rather, I ate it, but very rarely (maximum 1 slice a day) and only if it was super fresh and some kind of unusual, that is, not a simple white factory bread. I often had to throw away my half-eaten bread. Now, I give him a little more bread (2 slices a day), but my husband is a noble bread eater. They haven’t thrown a single slice, it ends quickly, does not have time to spoil.

Hello everyone! Half of the bread is gone. Varyushka, as soon as she woke up, she ran to ask for bread :) This loaf, well, it will be enough for 3 days. Her favorite food is bread, pasta, dumplings. All other food must be crammed. I do not eat bread because it is poorly processed by me, well, it does not go for my body. I only eat vegetables and meat, I can't eat porridge either. Yes, and I'm getting better from him. Now I began to make pâtés and no - no, I’ll steal a little bread from a little bread and start crawling with it. And my husband, looking at me, also refused bread, although earlier both the first and second with bread. We changed our diet completely, constantly on vegetable salads. But by the weekend, dad decided to bake a cupcake to try. I will study the site. And by the way, no one tried to make yeast bread from the first page from a recipe book without?

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, I didn't do anything from the book at all. I read that in the books, incorrectly composed recipes, most often do not work.

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, I really love English breakfast bread, have you tried that? By any chance the one with the seeds doesn't look like him? I will try different ovens. Here Varyushka eats up and I will try to bake something new for her, it's a pity that we are limited in sugar and eggs. You should also read about whole grain bread, how to bake it. When I bought the multicooker, I was also afraid to experiment, but now I'm inventing everything myself.

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, No, I haven't tried it. I only baked: Italian bread (only I added rye flour there at 50:50), Sweet Arabian bread, Wheat bread with flax seeds, sesame seeds and salted with seeds, Butter pumpkin bread, Wheat-buckwheat bread with poppy seeds. All these recipes can be found on the forum if you enter the name in the search. Everything turned out to be very tasty. I also tried to make Zebra pie, but for some reason it was not baked, I still did not understand why.
When you try something interesting, share in our thread

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, I just read about pumpkin in HP, there is a drain. oil is not added, but did you add oil? I think this will be my next bread. There was a big harvest of pumpkins in the fall and I froze it. Porridge, somehow does not go very well, I add it to the meat, I have it instead of mashed potatoes. Now we need to try to bake bread with it. Did you like this bread? What exactly was the recipe for baking for HP or for the oven? and in general from what was baked, what did you like the most?

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, this recipe contains butter, I added 20g and a spoonful of unrefined vegetable. I made this recipe: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=90192.0
There, on the third page, read my comments.
I'm making pumpkin puree soup today
Of the unsweetened breads that I baked, I liked Wheat with flax seeds and Wheat-buckwheat with poppy seeds the most.

Thank you, read it. I have already received orders from my eldest daughter, she lives separately and mothers for bread. Today it has become even tastier than it was yesterday. So now I'm going to start baking again and try adding milk.

Today I baked the same bread, but added a little more flour and put the yeast on the flour in a bucket. Yesterday my husband got out and shook him out on the roof, which crushed her, and she was not the same as today. And I took out this one myself neatly and it turned out to be a loaf with a high roof.I don’t know what it depends on, or it didn’t crumple, maybe the yeast didn’t get into the water right away, or maybe because I added a little more flour, it seemed to me a little damp yesterday. But I didn't shake the glass yesterday. True, she didn't sow flour yesterday and today, I have to buy a sieve. Tomorrow I'll add milk for mom. When I was photographing bread, my eater of flour food came running from class and climbed into the frame. From yesterday's bread, there are already horns and legs, I don't know if she will have enough for tomorrow

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, this time the bread is handsome and the "eater of flour" is beautiful. You measure flour by a glass, not by weights? Next time, put at least a little sunflower seeds or poppy seeds in your child's bread to make it tastier and more varied.

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, Thank you! I don't have scales, there was no need for them, now I need to get it. The question has already arisen, and how much is 30 grams of butter? I'll do everything by eye for now. And Varyushka is not allowed to do all this: seeds, poppy seeds, sesame seeds are generally a strong allergy. We were 3 years ago and there was no bread if, she was also allergic to gluten, so the bread from our family disappeared altogether, so as not to seduce her (you can see it goes along my line, my body does not tolerate bread)
And now it looks like it will return, yesterday I could not resist and ate a piece of butter. Now I will have a new oven, but I haven’t decided which one yet.

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, but can you tell me how much flour in grams is obtained in a measuring cup after shaking?

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, no, I can't say how much flour is in a measuring cup, I am guided only by the scales. If you want your bread to always turn out to be successful, it is better to purchase an electronic scale.

After the signal, I turned the shape over, twisted the gears at the bottom a little and the saddle fell out.

Great idea! And it’s true, every other time bread gets stuck on the mixers.

Hello everyone!
Yesterday I became the owner of Supra BMS-350. The first pancake is lumpy :-(
I want a proven recipe for an ordinary bread and with a detailed description. In what order should you lay everything down? Are there any preferences for flour, yeast, etc.
Thank you in advance!!!

[Lelik-1982]

Lelik-1982, congratulations on your purchase. And why the first pancake is lumpy, tell me, maybe it will be possible to understand and figure out what the matter is, so that there are no more such mistakes. Look through Temka, I laid out the recipes (links) there, according to which I baked my first bread (all successful).
PS Look at page 11, there is my photo of bread and a link to the recipe.

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, thanks for the compliments!
In the first recipe, it was necessary to put milk powder. I think that was the problem. It was probably overdue.
Made today according to the second recipe. All the same ingredients except milk powder. And yet, sprinkled the yeast at the end, on top of the flour, and the first time mixed the yeast with water.
My second Khlebushek turned out to be just super! We got it wrong at a time :-)

[Lelik-1982]

Lelik-1982, great !!! The stove is great (especially for its price) if done correctly.
And today I have rye bread like Borodinsky !!! The first time it was so hot !!!

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, Hi! Yes, the bread maker is great, we like it.
And how did the bread turn out? Tasty? Are there any delicious sweet recipes?

What a beautiful! And you can link to the recipe. Better yet, lay out here, if possible. How does it taste?

[Lelik-1982]

Lelik-1982, there are no recipes strictly "assigned" to a specific HP model. Choose any recipe for any HP, which one you like. For good results, be sure to study the topic for novice HP users.
Happy bread!

[Lelik-1982]

Lelik-1982, Hi. The rye och was delicious, I didn't even expect it)) I didn't find malt on sale, I made it with dry kvass. And the link to the recipe for the sweet Arabian bread Aquamarine in this thread gave, look through. I did, we liked Pts !!!
natasha-17Are you addressing me?

[Lelik-1982]

Lelik-1982, there are no recipes strictly "assigned" to a specific HP model. Choose any recipe for any HP, which one you like. For good results, be sure to study the topic for novice HP users.
Happy bread!

It's even easier to search on our forum:
Section "Basics of kneading and baking" https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=131.0
MANUAL FOR BAKING BREAD IN A BREADMARK (BEGINNER'S MANUAL) #

And you don't need to google

[Tatyan]

Tatyan, so this is a link to the same section of our forum, only it looks strange to me I always send you for help

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, yes to you ....

[natasha-17]

natasha-17, the taste of the bread is very similar to Borodino, delicious. Let me give you a link to the original recipe and write how I did, I changed a little
Here is the prescription
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=167008.0
I did not find malt, so instead of it I added dry kvass - 10 tbsp. l.
Accordingly, the amount of flour in the composition decreased - wheat flour was spent on a bun 272g, and rye, as in the recipe.
And I took less water initially to reduce the volume of bread - 400 ml (I thought suddenly I wouldn’t like it, and even so big. Next time I’ll do a big one)))
All other ingredients as in the recipe (see the link).
We don't have the Rye bread mode, like the author of the recipe, so I baked it like this (not my idea, I read it on the forum):
First, the Dough mode - 1 knead 20 minutes before proving, two good koloboks formed on each mixer: not dense, terribly sticky, with a puddle at the bottom. Turned off HP. At this stage, it is better to immediately pull out the stirrers, otherwise I did it already when the dough rose ... and because of this the dough fell ... and I had to wait a while for it to rise again.
Then she covered the HP with a blanket and put it to the radiator (it is cool at home), after an hour the dough rose and increased in size 2.5 - 3 times.
I switched on the HP to the Baking mode and after 60 minutes I got out this wonderful bread !!! Good luck to all!!!

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, thanks, I'll try to do it too.

[Lelikovna]

Lelikovna, Tell me please. why can't I get bread made from wheat flour
Rather, it turns out, but the low and the top is not baked at all, it remains white. With water, yeast and
I experimented with the amount of flour in different ways. Is there a stove defect?
The link they gave me doesn't work.

[Idea]

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=167008.0 Idea, and now it works?

[Idea]

IdeaPlease read the section "Kneading and Baking Basics" https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=131.0
# and then if it doesn't work out, here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=33.0

[Idea]

Idea, and can you tell in detail how and what you are doing? Let's try to figure it out.

[Rarerka]

Rarerka, sazalexter, LelikovnaThank you, dear ones, for responding!
Rarerka, now the links are working, thanks!
sazalexter, I read, like, I do everything like that, I sin on flour, I will try from other varieties.
Lelikovna, of course I’ll tell you, but the fact is that I reduced the water and added, different ingredients too, but the brick remained low, and the crust was white, white.
I have already said somewhere, sorry if I repeat that the bucket is too deep and you need to make large loaves so that the top is fried. Is it so ? I haven't tried it yet, I'm waiting for flour.
I think there is no need to say that I have HP SUPRA BMS - 350

But the fact is that I both reduced the water and added, different ingredients too, but the brick remained low, and the crust was white, white.
I have already said somewhere, sorry if I repeat that the bucket is too deep and you need to make large loaves so that the top is fried. Is it so ? I haven't tried it yet, I'm waiting for flour.

It's not about the bucket.
And the observance of the rules for laying down ingredients and the correct kneading of the dough.
Learning to make bread dough, first from wheat flour The simplest white bread from wheat flour https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=83080.0

Hello everyone! Since I am not a fan of white and Borodino bread, I was looking for a recipe to my liking. And I bought different flours - buckwheat, corn, wheat and rye bran, flax seed, malt. But somehow I don't like everything. And then I came across Bread Kievskaya arnautka https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=130495.0, it is true for the oven. But these photographs do not give my soul rest, because I spent my entire summer childhood in Ukraine with my grandmother and I liked their bread (especially the crust) so much, although I did not like bread at all then. And I decided to bake bread according to this recipe, but in a bread maker, because I still don't have the courage to bake it in the oven. Moreover, the girls there described how they make dough and dough in HP: Dough for the dough + kneading dough mode again on this mode.I made the dough on the dough mode, and then put the main one, and the last time in French with pauses 3-4 times during the proofing. Made with active yeast. It turned out, of course, not beautiful, the lid periodically falls off, but very tasty (although not like in childhood)

It's not about the bucket.
And the observance of the rules for laying down ingredients and the correct kneading of the dough.
Learning to make bread dough, first from wheat flour The simplest white bread from wheat flour

Thank you Tatiana ! I have already copied your recipes, boom to try, I will try to make the correct kneading, the fact is that I can't get a bun, because two mixers can be taken out after kneading and form one bun?

[Idea]

Idea, no need to take out the dough, you just have 2 koloboks (one on each mixer) and that's it.
I also have Supra 350 and usually my loaves are small for 400-450 g of flour, the color does not depend on this.

no need to take out the dough, you just have 2 koloboks (one on each mixer) and that's it.
I also have Supra 350 and usually my loaves are small for 400-450 g of flour, the color does not depend on this.

Ol, why then? What a pretty rye you have ...
Now I’m waiting for new flour, I’ll try more of it, my hands drop straight, how many unsuccessful mixes I made!

[Idea]

Idea, once again I propose to describe all your actions in order using one example (recipe). This is the only way to understand the true reason. Now no matter what anyone says, it will seem to you that you are doing everything right. And you can point out an error only when it is known what exactly you are doing.