Vyacheslav Ivanov
To bake the same bread, in addition to the same recipe, you need to knead the same, ferment the same, bake the same. By time and temperature. That is, the same recipe on the same mode - that is, the same timing, the same mixing intensity, the same fermentation temperatures.
To achieve this entirely in two machines is unrealistic. The only thing is that you can choose modes that are the same in timing with Panasik, this will be only a first approximation, since the batch and temperatures may differ.
This is if you decided with a relative to compare bread on the same recipe.
I rummaged through your topic and instructions, but I don't see information on the modes anywhere else.
However, if the timings are different, consider completely different programs, then it is necessary not to take the same recipes, but to adjust to the supra bun and the amount of yeast. That is, bake CORRECTLY in your machine, and not like in Panasonic.
I see very beautiful bread in the subject. Therefore, I believe that this is a very decent machine, which only needs to be mastered correctly. Having data on modes, it would be easier to select a mode for a recipe. But, alas, no one at you has made a plate for mixing-kneading according to your machine. Maybe you will be the first))))
I will immediately suggest you understand any movement in the stove. For example, before you stick apple cider vinegar into bread, look under the Basics topic and see what it does. Apple cider vinegar can only be put in very rye bread, where it is in place, but for wheat bread it is harmful, it kills gluten, that is, it CATEGORALLY spoils wheat bread.
You were offered ascorbic acid to strengthen your flour, but this advice is good if you have flour with a protein of 10, and if the protein is from 11 and above, then the flour is already strong without ascorbic.
But in general, bread makers love strong flour. Therefore, if you have regular flour with 10 protein from the store, do not neglect ascorbic acid. Take baking flour. Weak flour, yes, it may not withstand a sharp machine mix. Panasonic is very delicate in this regard. Again, there is no information about the supra. Maybe honey too.
Kneading, and what on the forehead, what on the forehead. You can knead as in panasik, or as you recommend. Here's how to like it more. Another thing is that the kneading in Panasika protects the machine oil seal from unnecessary contact with moisture. That is, the Panasikov mix extends the life of the bucket.
You have two stirrers. A completely different batch than Panasonic. Not bad, but OTHER. During the competition, you did not indicate, but is it held in the same apartment? On the same ingredients, or do you and your relative have different ones?
I ask why. Flour can have not only a different degree of moisture capacity - that is, a different bun is needed, but also a different time of this swelling. If your mother-in-law in Panasik immediately makes excellent bread, and you have the same flour, then you can immediately knead it. And if you have other flour, it is not a fact. Perhaps you should try two options: - kneading immediately, and pre-mixing.
Now carefully study the ABC of a baker in KP
Wheat flour gingerbread man (master class)
you must match each stage for your car.
And here I explained what pre-mixing is. Understand the same completely. I don’t know, by the way, maybe there’s a pause in your machine too. I have no data on modes.
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 6877
Your task is to determine the proportion of flour-moisture, mix immediately-pre-mix for your machine in order to get the perfect mix in it. Then on bread you will already adjust your yeast optimum.
Well, it would be nice for you to study the modes so that you can easily navigate them. For example, wheat bread and rye bread require a different approach. Rye bread is not baked in the main mode)))))) Bread is baked on a completely weak whole grain flour on a more gentle mode than the main one.
If a plug happens somewhere, then the recipe is in the studio along with a photo of bread, a cut of the crumb, a detailed description of the smell, crumbliness, taste.
What else ... at the mother-in-law in the panasik, the machine itself determines the temperature of the ingredients while standing. You, perhaps, will have another difficult moment: the temperature of the liquid-ingredients during mixing. Again, there is no data on the intensity of machine mixing in the supra. General information on similar machines is such that they knead very intensively, and if flour from the nearest store with 10 protein, then yes - ascorbic acid is required for strengthening, but you also need to take water COOL so that during kneading your dough does not heat up above 26-28 degrees inside yourself. Otherwise, the flour may not withstand and you will not see the fluffy crumb.
I also saw that the girls in the Panasik topic suggested baking: fat and butter, do not immediately add. This advice very good on very butter test. And with classic uncooked bread, you don't have to bother like that. When small quantities in a non-sticky dough can be put together at once. The machine will not notice the difference anyway)))). In the recipe chosen for the competition, the usual uncooked bread, the main thing is not butter))), it is quite possible to knead everything there at once, the main thing there is to get a good batch - that is, a beautiful bun, the correct moisture-flour ratio. Do not overheat the dough while kneading. Well, so that yeast is for the perfect rise in bread. And you will have wonderful bread.
And if you give a description of all the modes, at least with full timing, then you can estimate for compliance with the panasik modes. Of course, ideally, you would also know the kneading time, the number of strokes. Time of the last proofing. To compare and contrast. To choose the ideal regimen for a prescription composition, you need info on modes. Panasik is all studied, but the supra is not.
wait to despair. Look at the beauty of your theme, even on baked goods.
Bread maker Supra BMS-350 # 3and this is what, for example. The crumb is also the most tender there.
Bread maker Supra BMS-350 # 47I look on the topic, people did not really work on the kolobok, they often made too wet a batch, so the roof lies.
Be prepared that you will have to dance around her at first. Deal with the kneading koloboks, sit in the process and see how the bread looks at all stages. At first, while you study, you adapt. Then everything will become easier.
The difference between the Panasonic and your stove is that the Panasonic is more tailored "for a beginner", it has long modes that allow a strong variation in humidity at the kolobok.
And you have to study and adapt to yours. At first.
Again, such a big topic, and no one posted the timings and their observations of the modes, although the potential of the stove is high and this info would help beginners.
The only thing I will write to you is that the shorter your regime is, for example, Panasonic, the drier you should have a bun and more yeast. That is, the koloboks are different in different modes. The longer the fermentation in the mode, the more flaws in water and the more wet the batch it allows and is less critical to the strength of the flour, the bread will be higher and softer.
The shorter the regime, the more powerful it requires, the drier the bun. That is, the amount of moisture in the recipe on the short mode is meant to be lower than on the long one.
But these are general guidelines. There is no information specifically for your stove.