Non-standard forms at Panasonic

oh, moderators, delete it later, but I can't hold on anymore!

why delete something? everything within the topic ...

[marinastom]

2. At the bottom is a stainless steel plate.

marinastom, and how high is your plate, below the heating elements? I have something that the lid does not close decently. Or we have different baguette holders.

In search of an aluminum mold, I found such a ceramic one, glazed inside. Probably it can only be used in the oven.

News from the "fields". My form! I bought it !!!

First entry from 325g flour. Apparently a lot of mushrooms



Here I got out of the "mommy"



Such a bottom



And the cutter

Well done, smart girl! What a handsome man there. Did you bake in the oven or in a bread maker? Congratulations on the bread, on the initiative!

Second entry - flour 300g.



It looks like the ceramic pan heats up more slowly and takes about an hour to bake. But I'm in no hurry.

The main thing is that my daughter is very pleased with the size of the sandwiches. What else does mom want :)

[Creamy]

Well done, smart girl! What a handsome man there. Did you bake in the oven or in a bread maker? Congratulations on the bread, on the initiative!

Thousand thanks Creamy

She baked in her native Ken.

Honestly, I waited with some excitement for the reports after the "field tests" of your ceramic mold. Pottery doused, how will it behave? After all, this is not a factory-made aluminum mold. But your bread looks more pleasant, homemade or something. Thank you for your contribution to the topic on non-standard forms for bread makers. Now ceramic molds are full members of the same family of non-standard molds. Once again, thank you very much for your research and work!

[glykoza]

glykoza, gorgeous bread!
Well done your Ken, made friends with ceramics.
Does bread easily jump out of this mold? Was it smeared with something?

Honestly, I waited with some excitement for reports after the "field tests" of your ceramic mold. Pottery doused, how will it behave? After all, this is not a factory-made aluminum mold. But your bread looks more pleasant, homemade or something. Thank you for your contribution to the topic on non-standard forms for bread makers. Now ceramic molds are full members of the same family of non-standard molds. Once again, thank you very much for your research and work!

Glad to try

By the way, I forgot to write, at the first baking it smelled a little of ceramics - I don't know how to explain how it smells. But it smelled - did not "stink", and even then the first ten minutes. After that, there were no smells except bread. Lightly grease the form with oil. The bread pops out on "one".

[glykoza]

Wonderful shape glykoza, I will add to the list of primary wishes. Only I would be a little higher, and so that I could fit into a panasik)
Fragrant bread for you and beautiful butrik for daughter

Thank you all for your support and advice.

The latest news for today. Only from the oven.

Pure rye according to Vanya's recipe 28. Here she is, my little dear.



From within

Tell me, did anyone try a silicone mold (brick)?

Tell me, did anyone try a silicone mold (brick)?

I tried in silicone (brick). I shifted it after the last molding, the dough rose, the baking turned on and so it started to smoke. After a minute I had to pull out the mold. I baked in the oven in the same form, everything is fine. I still did not understand what was smoking and why, but the smoke was coming very strongly. Try it - maybe you will be fine, but I have not tried it again.

Second entry - flour 300g.



It looks like the ceramic pan heats up more slowly and takes about an hour to bake. But I'm in no hurry.

The main thing is that my daughter is very pleased with the size of the sandwiches. What else does mom want :)

Cool bun!

I tried in silicone (brick). I moved it after the last molding, the dough rose, the baking turned on and so it started to smoke. After a minute I had to pull out the mold. I baked in the oven in the same form, everything is fine. I still did not understand what was smoking and why, but the smoke was coming very strongly. Try it - maybe you will be fine, but I have not tried it again.

So I found a relatively suitable silicone mold .. BUT .. I didn't take it .. I was afraid somehow ... although maybe it would be possible for the oven ?! And then what is the point of choosing the size for HP? In short, a dilemma, damn it!

Thank you.
so I realized that silicone is not worth it

Thank you.
so I realized that silicone is not worth it

Maybe it's worth it ... But I'm somehow afraid ... as they say, learns from his mistakes "dumb" ...

So I found a relatively suitable silicone mold .. BUT .. I didn't take it .. I was afraid somehow ... although maybe it would be possible for the oven ?! And then what is the point of choosing the size for HP? In short, a dilemma, damn it!

The silicone mold is an excellent thing - the bread jumps out of it and I baked the cake in it in the oven, but why the smoke went out - I did not understand. When I pulled out the form, it didn't even burn, but I didn't risk it. Then I'll get up the courage and put it in the stove again.

Here's a mold.

[Lagri,]

Oh, Lagri, bold, however ... Then we are waiting for the next results, and then, based on the overall "results", we will draw conclusions on the use of silicone molds in HP

[Lagri,]

Oh, Lagri, bold, however ... Then we are waiting for the next results, and then, based on the overall "results", we will draw conclusions on the use of silicone molds in HP

Only it seems to me that the silicone mold should be set higher. I guess I put it low the first time. If I could find someone who would eat the baked bread faster, I would bake it much more often, I really like this process and I also like experiments (both with ripe dough, and with sourdough and many other things ...), but our bread is eaten slowly, albeit delicious. How it will turn out with the silicone mold - unsubscribe. ... And I advise you to buy a form, even for the oven. I have other silicones as well. forms - they suit me very much and please.

If I could find someone who would eat the baked bread faster, I would bake it much more often, I really like this process and I also like experiments (both with ripe dough, and with sourdough and many other things ...), but our bread is eaten slowly, albeit delicious.

I have the same problem ... we can eat a loaf for up to 5 days, if I don't take half of it to my parents ...

And I advise you to buy a form, even for the oven. I have other silicones as well. forms - they suit me very much and please.

I bought myself on Friday 2 molds (the first silicone in the house) for baking in the form of flowers 36 RE each in the Fix-Price store .. I haven't experimented yet ... But they need butter pour that is, lubricate the forms?

I have the same problem ... we can eat a loaf for up to 5 days, if I don't take half of it to my parents ...

I bought myself on Friday 2 molds (the first silicone in the house) for baking in the form of flowers 36 RE each in the Fix-Price store .. I haven't experimented yet ... But they need butter pour that is, lubricate the forms?

Lubricate with oil only the first time. And then everything crashes by itself. She's soft. And nothing sticks to her and the sides are beautiful.

Here I have baked another L7-shaped bread. The bread began to turn out beautiful, I am delighted. Day by day it gets better and better both in appearance and in quality (for me). Probably, this is "quietly picking up experience ..." (joke).

Yes ..., now I don't want to bake in my own cotton bucket, and it will be more whole. It bakes perfectly, the crumb is super, the crust is thin, crispy! Long live L7 !!! and Creamy !!!

[Lagri]

I have the same problem ... we can eat a loaf for up to 5 days if I don't take half to my parents

you can cut part of the fresh bread in portions, into a bag and into the freezer. very much helps out !!! and the bread is not lost.
Lagri my highest praise was: "like from a store" .. and then felt the difference !!!

Yes ..., now I don't want to bake in my own cotton bucket, and it will be more whole. It bakes perfectly, the crumb is super, the crust is thin, crispy! Long live L7 !!! and Creamy !!!
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One hundred thousand +!

[Lagri,]

Lagri,olvina Thanks for the kind words. You have one-to-one bread, like mine. Not pale, not burnt, moderately ruddy and with a high stately "roof"! This is my favorite bread. I love the L7 aluminum mold. That's really really "neither add nor subtract." Ideal ratio of mold sizes for the best baked goods. And baking is surprisingly easy. Oh, I love baking bread. Now I go on a visit with a gift - a loaf of homemade bread.

[Lagri]

And mine, cutting this bread, inhale the smell of freshly baked bread and say: "You can be stunned, delicious ..." Here it is in the context (this is on ripe dough, the taste is incomparable)

Speaking of bread on ripe dough: I've tried a lot of things in 2 years, including with different sourdoughs, and on ripe dough I like most of all. Recommend!

Lagri my highest praise was: "like from a store" .. and then felt the difference !!!

Now they are unlikely to want to shop))).

[marinastom]

marinastom, and how high is your plate, below the heating elements? I have something that the lid does not close decently. Or we have different baguette holders.

Hello everyone! And I was already starting to get upset that they forgot about me - notifications are not sent to the mail, today it just came. And here already so many things have been "naughty" (from the word MIRACLE)!
My plate is 2.5 cm high. I just didn't see how much higher she tenov. But the frame of the frame at the bottom is rounded at the corners, therefore, it seems to me, almost flush. I did get hold of new molds for baguettes and flat cakes from Moulinex 6002. On the weekend I will try and report.

[Lagri]

The silicone mold is an excellent thing - the bread jumps out of it and I baked the cake in it in the oven, but why the smoke went out - I did not understand. When I pulled out the form, it didn't even burn, but I didn't risk it. Then I'll get up the courage and put it in the stove again.

Oh, Lagri, I do not think that the smoke was somehow connected with silicone. Apparently flour got on the heating elements and burned, frightened you. If silicone smoked, traces would certainly remain on it.
Once I safely smoked a silicone mold in the oven along with the charlotte baked with it)). Well, I just forgot about her, I was on the street. The charlotte had to be thrown away, and there were dark spots on the silicone. I think silicone in the bread maker is possible, if only the heating elements do not touch and preferably on the grill, since silicone molds are usually low. I do not have a suitable shape, otherwise I would definitely try) But only in the order of experiments, I do not have a soul for silicone something) I love, you know, everything real - glass, clay, cast iron, aluminum ..

Girls, well done, beautiful breads.
Agree with Lagri - bread, on ripe dough - extraordinary yummy. I only bake wheat like that. Firstly, there is a minimum of yeast in the recipe, and secondly, the bread is much more aromatic and richer in taste. And I also really like the structure of its crumb - it turns out to be so elastic, tender and at the same time elastic - it keeps its shape perfectly and does not crumble. And just yeast, especially unpaired, bread reminds me more of the structure of buns and muffins - airy, loose, with a neutral taste. Not for an amateur, of course, but my bread has never been requested since I went to the ripe dough. And unlike the leavening - in the ripe one - the sourness is barely perceptible, but the aroma and taste are rich, bready, real.

you can cut part of the fresh bread in portions, into a bag and into the freezer. very much helps out !!! and the bread is not lost.

And I read somewhere that it is not recommended to freeze homemade cotton bread. So this is a divorce? And I was afraid. We also have that we eat for several days.

Or maybe the silicone touched the heating elements somewhere? But he can't touch them, that's what the instructions say. I also use limited silicone. Most of all I love metal forms. Girls, on July 17, I ordered a baguette maker in their SC, have not yet arrived, and their hands are already itching to shove it into Panasonic and bake baguettes.

[Marinastom]

Marinastom, also how you can freeze! I even freeze filled pies. After defrosting in a micron, you will never guess that the pies were not just baked.

[Creamy]

Or maybe the silicone touched the heating elements somewhere?

In my case, no, the silicone was on the grate.
In the case of Lagri, perhaps, but it seems to me that traces would remain on the silicone. And Lagri says there are no traces left.
But I agree, of course, the form should not touch the heating elements at all, especially the silicone one. And so, in a bread maker, the temperature is not critical for silicone. It should be measured, but I doubt that there are more than 230))

Girls, on July 17, I ordered a baguette maker in their SC, have not yet arrived, and their hands are already itching to shove it into Panasonic and bake baguettes.

Congratulations, Creamy! Did you order something from Moulinex or find something cheaper?

I ordered 5004 from Mulinex. They threaten that they will cost up to 2000 rubles. We get it, we find out.

[Marinastom]

Marinastom, also how you can freeze! I even freeze filled pies. After defrosting in a micron, you will never guess that the pies were not just baked.

still have to buy a micra ... and cram it somewhere.
And one more freezer - this one is already chock-full of berries (from the dacha) and fish (my husband is very sick with this fishing).

[Marinastom]

Marinastomif there are few eaters, buy a baguette holder instead of a micra! Always fresh bread and bake small baguettes, whatever you need.
And now there are still guests with us .. so even the molded wheat in one sitting is minced)) I bake rye almost every day, every other day it is stable

[Marinastom]

Marinastom, you and your husband need to come to an agreement. For a family, buy a freezer, a smokehouse for fish for your husband (less ice cream will lie - checked with a friend, they are both avid fishermen with your husband), and you have a microwave.

[Marinastom]

Marinastom, you and your husband need to come to an agreement. For a family, buy a freezer, a smokehouse for fish for your husband (less ice cream will lie - checked with a friend, they are both avid fishermen with your husband), and you have a microwave.

This is our third smokehouse. Two were burned out from frequent use. They talked to him about the freezer only today. But micra ...

[Marina]

Marina, or maybe you should be asked to buy a mikra as a birthday present or on some significant day from your team or friends? Like, "I'm not guilty", they gave it themselves. And the simplest one can be mechanically controlled. I personally bought four microwaves for myself. The first one was cool. Having gained experience, then I bought inexpensive ones with mechanics. They all work great.

Let's return to our rams, that is, breads: my question is: for baking in the form of L7, etc., the amount of dough is needed less than size M.
1. How to calculate it?
2. Isn't a small amount of batch regularly harmful for the stove?

[marinastom]

marinastom, I will answer for myself. I do not pretend to be true.
I bake on ripe dough, so every time after kneading, I tear off a piece of dough and put it in the refrigerator until the next batch. It turns out that 100-150 grams are constantly kneading with ballast, which increases the size of the kolobok, the total mass of which corresponds to a batch of bread of size M.

Which I recommend doing the first time. Knead the dough from 400 g flour

flour - 400g
water - 225-235g
fresh yeast - 4 g
salt - 6 g
oil - 26 g

We turn on the first program. Pour flour, oil into the bucket, while the temperature is equalizing (for Panasonic), dissolve yeast and salt in warm water. After 15 minutes, pour it into a bucket.
We kneaded the dough. It turned out 660 grams. When the scoreboard is 2:00 about 100 grams, tear off, put it in a jar and in the refrigerator. From the remaining test
form the bread, put it in the L7 form, set it in the HP. The final proofing will take about 45 minutes. We bake.

Here he is:



Next time (and all subsequent ones) we knead the dough from 300 grams of flour:

flour - 300g
water - 170-180g
fresh yeast - 2.5 g
salt - 5 g
oil - 20 g

Pour flour, butter into the bucket, turn on the first program, at this time, while the temperatures are equalizing in warm water, dissolve the yeast, salt (you can add sugar) tear our ripe dough into pieces and throw it into this water. After 15 minutes, pour it into a bucket and make a batch. When the scoreboard is 2:00, without turning off the program, we take out a bucket, tear off a piece of dough (100-150 grams), put it in a jar, form bread from the rest, put it in an L7 form, set it in HP, bake, bake.

Girls, absolutely delighted with this thread. Can I join you? I'm not just empty-handed.Look, you can buy forms here, mailing from Ukraine throughout the CIS and they even write there that they can be made with a handle at will and even several forms can be fastened at will in two, three, etc. sectional configurations (for example, make one block two forms No. 11)
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The minimum order quantity is 1 piece.
The only thing, it is not clear how certified these products are.

Girls, absolutely delighted with this thread. Can I join you? I'm not empty-handed right away. Look, you can buy forms here, mailing from Ukraine throughout the CIS and they even write there that they can be made with a handle at will and even several forms can be fastened at will in two, three, etc. sectional configurations (for example, make one block two forms No. 11)
🔗
The minimum order quantity is 1 piece.

Monochka, one by one If you order any form, the price increases by 8 grams for each form, and for the handle + 10 UAH. to the price, only from ten pieces of one form will be at the stated price. and payment only to a bank account (there is no card) or in cash when picking up from Kiev, only mail is written about delivery, no carriers are mentioned, but you can call in more detail.
Thank you for the link, if my husband goes to Kiev, I can persuade him to stop by to buy a dozen L 7, then it really turns out to be profitable.

[Mona1]

Mona1, I was amazed at the price of vine molds for proofing - it's a gift at all. My mother-in-law is now in Kiev (well, or in the vicinity), but she is not in the tooth with a foot and explaining anything to no purpose. You will have to order for 800 rubles (200 UAH against 45 UAH)

Monochka, one by one If you order any form, the price increases by 8 grams for each form, and for the handle + 10 UAH. to the price, only from ten pieces of one form will be at the stated price. and payment only to a bank account (there is no card) or in cash when picking up from Kiev, only mail is written about delivery, no carriers are mentioned, but you can call in more detail.
Thank you for the link, if my husband goes to Kiev, I can persuade him to stop by to buy a dozen L 7, then it really turns out to be profitable.

In short, they have only Kiev phones, no mobile. So for now I wrote them a letter with all these questions. I wrote that besides me, a whole crowd of thirsty people from our forum are waiting for their answer. Let's wait, maybe they will write good sho. Or maybe there are women from Kiev among us, they will call and find out. If they don’t answer, I’ll call them myself, I won’t go broke, and really!

[Mona1]

Mona1, I was amazed at the price of vine molds for proofing - it's a gift at all. My mother-in-law is now in Kiev (well, or in the vicinity), but she is not in the tooth with a foot and explaining anything to no purpose. You will have to order for 800 rubles (200 UAH against 45 UAH)

Ksyusha, on our forum in Joint Procurement Lyulek sells very good rattan baskets (from Slovakia) round, oval, triangular and rectangular. I bought myself recently. There is a round, depending on the size, 90-100 UAH. To Russia, I asked her, is sending. Shipping 1 basket costs $ 8. But it still comes out less than 200 UAH, and if you take more than one, and pack a couple together, then even cheaper.
Here, look. At the bottom third of the page, scroll down.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=31266.0

Girls, no one told you that you we are MANY !!!!! I want a round proofing basket. And by these forms, can anyone tell the exact dimensions ?? Can I fit into my Bork ??

[Tanyush]

Tanyush, Thank you. I saw a warehouse. While I think.

Mistletoe, there was a picture with dimensions above somewhere. right here

Girls, no one told you that you we are MANY !!!!! I want a round proofing basket. And by these forms, can anyone tell the exact dimensions ?? Can I fit into my Bork ??

Here in their price list there are sizes
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Girls, thanks, I went to study!