Vanya28
Quote: Natali.M

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It would be nice to look at the kneading of pure rye dough for a full assessment, for example, this -
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Natali.M
in moulinex, you can definitely bake a kilogram of bread, there is a long way to the lid, and the bucket is very wide, I am already aiming there for round silicone forms to use, I will probably try on the weekend, and I will fill in the table as I use it.
vernisag
Yesterday we went with our daughters in the m-video, showed her this miracle ... She decided that it was a slow cooker, and then there were round eyes when she realized that it was a bread maker. Well, in general, I looked at it closer, the bucket is sooo big, there and 1.5 kg of bread will easily turn out. I thought, thought and decided to take DeLonghi EOB 2071 it is more functional for the same money. And I wish you Natalya success in mastering the new stove, always good bread and thanks for the pleasant communication!
Vanya28
Quote: Natali.M

Congratulations on your purchase !!!
Microwaves would have been pushed into this thing, the price would not have been for it.
I'm already looking at what to replace with such a multifunctional microwave ...

And how are the pastries and signs doing there?
Natali.M
On the weekend I baked a Ukrainian loaf,
Water (ml) 470
Wheat flour (g) 325
Rye flour (g) 325
Salt (tsp) 2
Sugar (tsp) 1
Coriander (tsp) 1
Dry yeast (tsp) 3
I forgot the breakdown at home, but the pictures are:
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Natali.M
well, more buns ...
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though I put it in the baking mode for 25 minutes, smeared it with honey and sprinkled with sugar, wanted to turn it on for another 15 minutes, and the bread maker said until it cooled down to 40 degrees, I won’t bake it while it was cooling down, my rolls fell off, next time I will put it on for 40 minutes at once
Vanya28
Quote: Natali.M

well, more buns ...
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though I put it in baking mode for 25 minutes, smeared it with honey and sprinkled with sugar, wanted to turn it on for another 15 minutes, and the bread maker said, until I cool down to 40 degrees, I will not bake, while it was cooling, all the rolls fell off, next time I will put it on for 40 minutes

Panasonic has the same joke with temperature blocking, but it is easy to treat for forgetfulness there - a towel on the taken out bucket and a piece of ice to the temperature sensor for a minute, then everything starts to work.
We are waiting for the first sign.

Judging by the size of the loaf and the bucket, perhaps you can easily bake 2 times, or even 3 times more.
Natali.M
Thanks for the advice, I'll look for where the thermal sensor is !!! But about the weight, it depends on what kind of bread, yesterday I baked ordinary white bread, so it turned out not small
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Natali.M
I fill out the plate, at least I will fill in half and lay it out, in general I have only used three modes so far, and none of them have the usual repeated kneading for me, there, during the period of standing, the bread maker does a couple of turns with a spatula and everything, if you don't sit next to it, you might not notice
Vanya28
Next time you take pictures, put matches or cigarettes next to the bread to get an idea of ​​the actual size.
Alexey B
Menu 17 can also be used in the following cases
- in combination with menu 11


Better with menu 16
Two videos:



And what about the build quality, squeaks, etc.? The thing is good, but the reliability of Moulinex, judging by the reviews .....
Natali.M
Well, I filled out part of the plate, I'm spreading it
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Natali.M
This whole grain with matches photographed
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Natali.M
rye according to the recipe from the book:

Water (ml) 460
Wheat flour (g) 400
Rye flour (g) 250
Salt (tsp) 2
Dry yeast (tsp) 3

such a ruler remained from the repair, I tried to take pictures with it, but somehow it did not work out very well

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Natali.M
Quick bread

Water (ml) 420
Wheat flour (g) 670
Salt (tsp) 2
Dry yeast (tsp) 3

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TaviЯ
Quote: Natali.M

Quick bread

Water (ml) 420
Wheat flour (g) 670
Salt (tsp) 2
Dry yeast (tsp) 3

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but I get a terrible white, and according to the first program, and according to the fast one, it does not work, and as in the video with this bread maker. I want the top to be a slide, but it is almost even.Although it rises normally, it is baked. And to pull out the problem, I break bread. How do you pull out?
Natali.M
I don't even know why it turns out smoothly with you, it can change the yeast, or the flour, I have it even only with rye flour. And to shake it out easier, when you get it out of the bread machine, let the bucket of bread stand for about 10 minutes, I also cover it with a towel, after that it is easily shaken out.
Manna
Quote: Natali.M

5 Rye bread. Long-term cooking 500-900 8h 15min
Isn't this program for sourdough bread?
Natali.M
my family is not very fond of sourdough bread, so I stopped conducting these experiments, on the weekend I will try, write what happened.
Manna
Oh, thanks a lot in advance.
As I started the sourdough, since then we have only eaten sourdough bread.
I do everything manually in Panasonic.
Yes, and other bread makers, which are with manual modes, for a maximum of 4 hours of proofing, and they have two batches with proofing between them (for rye, not the best option).
And then I saw this moulinexa
Moreover, you can adjust the kneading and proofing with her, it is very convenient, you can also use it for sourdough when the heating is turned off
Natali.M
but I am not very friendly with sourdoughs, maybe that's why my bread turns out to be strange from them ...
but an attempt is not torture, maybe this mode will really help bake a decent bread
Manna
I just don’t know how the warm-ups once an hour will affect the rise.
Natali.M
Yes, to be honest, it is difficult to call it a slap, there the paddle turns 3-4 times and that's it!
we will find out how it will affect this weekend!
prigorod1
Hello everyone! I got this miracle of technology half a year ago. There is Panasonic 253, but when I saw this miracle, I could not pass by.
Tried all baking modes - full g ....
I was already thinking about throwing it away, but then I began to experiment, in the end I bake bread according to the following recipe;

500 ml water
400 gr white flour
150 rye
150 whole grain
2 tablespoons olive oil
1 tsp each salt and sugar

it turns out super

I add, if desired, 2 tsp of instant coffee, a couple of tablespoons of nuts or seeds, spices, cheese, cheskook, chopped onions, paprika, etc.

how I will take a photo I will definitely expose

You can replace some of the water with milk, and butter, but then you need to add more sugar
asja
Hello people! Thank you for writing about this miracle of technology.
This stove was given to me by my husband a week ago. used it before
cheap brand from METRO / Talington house \.
The pastries were standard, but I lacked the pomp.
I also had the experience of baking in a Russian oven at the dacha. \ But it is on the street and this pampering is very seasonal.
Pts. I wanted the same crust as in the oven.
I got a crust, but I have a hard time with recipes and programs.
The only thing that turns out so far is long proofing bread.
Although flat, but insanely nostril and oven-like crust.
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Everyone in my family likes this bread.
But my brioche turned out to be flat and crumbles like shortbread dough - the children did not like it.
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Wheat on program 1 is dense and pale ... ... I will experiment further ... after so many disappointments from the recipe book, it's time to move on to others.
People tell me how to bake delicious white bread here - \ I want it like in the picture in the book, I suspect it was baked in the oven or oven.
Ulashka
Hello, I've been a user of this hp for a week now. This is my first experience with HP. On the first day I could not resist baking bread. I chose program number 1 - white bread, did everything as it is said in the recipe book, which is attached, for 500 g of ready-made bread: water 220 ml, wheat flour 340 g, salt 1 h. l., sugar 0.5 tsp. l., dry yeast 1h. l. Almost 3 hours, or rather 2 hours 50 minutes, did not come off the window xn. But what was my disappointment when I cooled it down and cut it, inside it was dense and tight with a very dry crust. I had to call my grandmother "baking pro" and consult, to which she said that there was not enough water for this proportion. Question, before writing the recipe book, did they try to bake according to their recipe? The same thing happened with "Charlotte" according to the recipe for 1 kg of finished product: 3 eggs, flour 200g, sugar 200g, vanilla sugar 1 tsp, 3 finely chopped apples (roofing felts, only kg, not specified in the book, guess yourself) I put 2 medium apples, baking powder 3 tsp.In short, this "Charlotte" looked, let's say so ugly, it tasted also rubber. Sorry!!! In short, the only bread that I got is bread according to the recipe from the Internet: water 200ml, milk 200ml, egg 2pcs, salt 1.5 hours. l, sugar 1.5 tsp. l, rast. oil 2 tbsp. l, wheat flour. 4 d. glasses of 250 ml (about 600 g of flour), dry yeast. 1.5 tsp. The bread turned out to be tall, with a beautiful golden crust (I put the crust on the medium setting), a porous crumb, and generally very tasty. Conclusion: I'm happy with the recipe book!
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aypostnova
I will sell the Moulinex RZ 710100 bread maker - the oven is great, I just did not guess the size of the loaf, it is very large for our family of two.
I chose an oven specially for baking "Custard rye bread is a real (almost forgotten taste)", as there is a minimum of dancing with a tambourine near the oven. This model has three separate modes that must be switched (kneading, proofing, baking). Even during kneading, you do not need to help with a spatula, HP does an excellent job on its own. The bread was a success the first time, and this is my first HB, and my first bread.
If you have a large family and you bake bread several times a week, then this model is definitely for you)))
Geographically Moscow.
Beker13
My first bread. Happy as an elephant. Many thanks to Natali.M for the mode table.
Did Ave 15-10 min. + Ave 4 with a delay of 40 min. Mishung "Ciabatta" from Kaufland. I think that I myself will not do better than the pros.

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I will add more photos from the second bread.
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Irina Lvovna
Good day!
Dear audience, help with the choice! It is a shame that only the Bork X 800 and Moulinex RZ 710130 have folding blades! Therefore, my second bread maker will be "mule". Please, owners of the device, lay out the dough kneading process, at least for the first 5 minutes, in a round shape.
Another question - is a loaf mold included in the kit? I have not seen 2 forms in any vidio: only 1.
You are kindly requested, I cannot make a choice.
I have had a Bork X 800 for 3 years now, if anyone needs any help or a video, please ask, I will help. The bread maker is sensible, the dough is kneaded - super. Basically for this I want a "mulyu". Help everyone who can.
sazalexter
Irina Lvovna, The bucket only in this HP is only round https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=171421.0 the stove is sharpened for the mixture.
with round shape still DeLonghi EOB 2071 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=143917.0
The Bork X800 bread maker lives here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=141429.0
Happy choice!
Irina Lvovna
THANKS FOR THE QUICK ANSWER Sazalexter! But the choice will be successful only if the information is complete. Do you own this bread maker or do you just know a lot about it? If I understood you correctly, does she not cook from fresh and natural products? Or are you just offended by something at Moulinex?
sazalexter
Irina Lvovna, I have nothing against Mulinex, for this HP read the topic above. There is plenty of information on a specific model. The peculiarity of Moulinex is that by putting a folding spatula, they still did not solve the problem with the survivability of the bucket.
Irina Lvovna
Tell me, then, if you are competent: which of the HBs copes best with kneading hard dough (dumplings)? I understand that Sazalezter has Panasonic 2501 for mixing, and Delonghi for the soul? I'm sorry, but I always lack space in the X800 for a given weight, at least by eye. And I always set the maximum time (1.25 kg) in the menu even for 0.5 loaf, and the HB kneads the extra 10 minutes, respectively. That's when I like the bun. Tell me which HB does the best with mixing and does not save time. I watched a commercial from Delonghi today, just in a sludge from admiration. But I purely like it so that I can pour something on top (sometimes necessary). But after watching a German video with a cook, I didn't want something, mainly that something should be mixed there with a spatula
A nuance: I tried to knead the dough on dumplings on my Bork X800, without the presence of any oils (God forbid), I fell asleep at the rate of 900 g of flour - HB did not cope, stalled and stopped. I paused half of the content right on the spot, then she did it. Cope, I must say, excellently. Although the regime is only 15 minutes. But it made me think ...It is also annoying and I would not like to repeat this in the new HB - "splashing" the dry composition of flour on the sides, and sometimes on the ten HB. It is not very helpful when heating up afterwards when making bread. Opening and wiping on time, you know, is not recommended. Tell me what to do, so that there is an excellent batch, and it is better that I set the time myself or I can add 10-15 minutes along the way. You are a pro in everything, but of course I would like clarity or video, like this.
Irina Lvovna
PS:
The smell emanating from my HB (Bork X 800) never really liked during baking, did not cause admiration. I only liked the look of bread. I think this is due to the shades or the ceramic coating of the bucket, so I tried to take it out and bake it in the oven. Better, but not much. Are you so fantastic with this case in Delonghi, just jealous ?!
sazalexter
Irina Lvovna.The selection of bread makers we have here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3696.1680
if you want to discuss Bork X 800 here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=141429.0
DeLonghi EOB 2071 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=143917.0
In this thread we are talking about the Moulinex RZ710100.
Irina Lvovna
Good.
I appeal to those who have CB Moulinex rz710100 at home: is there a loaf bucket available or just a round one? Does the scapula change position (either lying down or standing)? And does it change the direction of twisting (clockwise, counterclockwise)? Tell me: is there a "modify" button on the front panel or somewhere else? Can I set my parameters using the example modes, that is, program my (!) Programs? I beg you very much ... Video or photo essay on the first few minutes of the batch. Is the bread weight really the maximum 900 g? Who has had HB for a long time, do you regret that you purchased it or figured it out and are satisfied?
Take a picture of somebody kolobok at the last second of the batch - ideally.
sazalexter
Irina LvovnaThis HP doesn't have a square / rectangular bucket, just a round one. It is not programmable, it is an HP machine. But she has a Yeast dough mode
This menu allows you to manually select the ascent time in
range from 5 minutes (minimum) to 5 hours (maximum).
Adjustment is made in 5 minute steps using
buttons and. In addition, it is possible to choose
temperature with the “Browning” button: light
(25 ° C), medium (30 ° C) or dark (35 ° C) crust. The program
should only be used for raising dough.
Instructions https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/image/moulinex/moulinex%20rz7101.pdf
Read the entire thread above carefully. There is also a video from the off-site with a batch of bread.
List of programmable bread makers, comparison and discussion https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=6173.0
Irina Lvovna
Thank you very much for participating in my problem, I already ordered RZ710130 for Sunday. I will use it - I will definitely tell and write how the rz'ka mule differs from Bork X800. I know that Mulya is easier, but still. Thanks again. See you at the forum.
Irina Lvovna
A respected technical guru forgot to ask you about the most important thing how to accept the goods from the cold to check the operation of the engine and the operation of the button menu, please tell me so that you can immediately cancel the mode
sazalexter
Irina Lvovna, From the cold, alas, nothing, only an external examination. Otherwise, due to dew on the cold electronics, it can cause a short circuit.
Irina Lvovna
I have a fiasco: they brought the device "gray". There is no moulinex guarantee from the manufacturer, there is a guarantee from the online store. Nothing! I did not take: why should I worry, think and reproach myself? I looked on the Internet, it became interesting: in the company Internet store Moulinex, it costs only 900 rubles more, but with a native guarantee. The question is - can this be? They swear that the Mulinex guarantee, they do not work otherwise. And in the first store (the same thing. If you can, help me figure it out, all the same, my thoughts about buying do not let go. With gratitude, I am waiting for an answer.
sazalexter
Irina Lvovna, Mulinex has an official guarantee, according to some information, international.
Elena Gar
Hello! Something absolutely no one writes in this thread.I got this model quite by accident: my husband and I went to Mvideo to watch live mini-ovens, well, and, as always, walked through the rows with all the kitchen devices, and suddenly I see: there is this bread machine, the price tag shows the old price of 3990, and with a discount of 2700 !!!!!!!!! Well, when I saw her round bucket, I could not move away from her, I had to take it, though there was only a display case available, well, okay, seemingly perfect, although my husband is very meticulous, examined her from all sides, well, and at such a price, I would not have left without her. At home I have a Kenwood 256 bread maker, I really like it, well, now there are two of them. I have baked a little in the new oven so far: white bread from the enclosed book, the crust turned out well, just soooo what I dreamed of, everything was baked, the only thing, the bottom crust is thick. And wheat-rye muffins are also from the book, there was almost enough yeast, there was no home, but it was baked very well, but the bottom crust is very thick. I have not figured out how to insert a photo yet, this is my first post on the forum, although I have been reading it regularly for several years.
Manna
Elena Gar, Welcome!
And the photo can be uploaded here, then copy the code and paste from your message.
Elena Gar
Thanks for the answer, I've already tried it here, it doesn't work, maybe because I'm sitting with the iPad, I'll try to download it at work on Monday.
Elena Gar
Well, now I'll try to insert a photo. This is the very first, according to a recipe from a color book. Moulinex RZ710100 Modes Moulinex RZ710100 Modes This wheat-rye is also from this book Moulinex RZ710100 Modes This is white bread that I usually bake in Kenwood in French mode. Moulinex RZ710100 Modes Moulinex RZ710100 Modes In Kenwood, it turns out to be completely different, more fluffy. And this is lemon cupcake Moulinex RZ710100 Modes
Cherkas
Good day! Friends, here's the problem: today, at my own peril and risk, I bought a Mulinex rz710130 bread machine from M-Video, a discounted incomplete set, i.e.
without a box, instructions and a DOUGH MIXER, so that you can make a Dough mixer yourself or buy it somewhere (I know what I was doing)
I have a convincing request to you, we need photographs, close-ups, all the nodes from different angles of this very dough mixer, well, information where you can buy,
the search engine did not give any results, I will be very grateful. I've been baking bread for 4 years already, there were also 4 different stoves, everyone has the same disease - it breaks the bushings in the bucket, and starts to miss the gland, now I use Kenwood 260 (with covection !!!). I accidentally found this topic, read it, liked it and decided to purchase this copy of Mulinex RZ710130, thank you all for the information, Yuri, Novosibirsk.
Kirks
This is my bread. With sugar, baked on program 2, bread for dessert, very tasty, could not resist ate a piece with tea
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Ouen
Moulinex RZ 710100 La Fournee Mode Chart (Supplemented)

Program 1
2:51 mix 15 min.
2:36 rest 30 min.
2:06 knead 5 seconds-rest 30 minutes
1:36 kneading 5 sec. - raising 30 min.
1:06 Baking 1 h. 6 min.

Program 3
2:56 kneading 15 min.
2:41 rest 30 min.
2:11 knead 5 sec-rest 30 min
1:41 kneading 5 sec. - raising 35 min.
1:06 Baking 1 h. 6 min.

Program 4
3:00 batch 15 min.
2:45 rest 32 min.
2:13 knead 5 sec-rest 32 min
1:41 kneading 5 sec. - raising 35 min.
1:06 Baking 1 h. 6 min.

Program 5
8:15 knead 9 min.
8:06 rest 1 h
7:06 knead 5 seconds-rest 1 hour
6:06 knead 5 seconds-rest 1 hour
5:06 knead 5 seconds-rest 1 hour
4:06 knead 5 seconds - rise 3 hours
1:06 Baking 1 h. 6 min.

Program 9
3:44 knead 44 min.
3:00 rest 40 min.
2:20 rise 30 min.
1:00 baking 1 h.
to be continued...
vernisag
But I still bought this stove

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