Grater Burner (2)

I'm already confused who is who - which one is a stub and which is not

The Trend stub should look like this

Girls, residents of Odessa. Where in your city can you buy Berner? I'm looking, I still can't find where to buy.

Berner's website lists the following office representatives:
Odessa
PE Mikhailova Lyudmila Nikolaevna, mob. t. 8-067-482-77-73
PP "KAMBUZ", TC "Aleksandrovsky", s / market "KOTELOK", t. 771-12-33
try to call them,
but in general I know for sure that there is a point in TSUM on the 1st floor, it has been there for 15 years,
once there was a point on PosKot in the "Family" and on Cathedral Square 2, the Berghoff store, but now I don't know if they are there
and recently they opened a point in the Riviera

Sandy, I'm sorry I dropped it in the midst of a choice. I'm already back!
The plug and the bladeless insert are different things. The knifeless one is included in the kit (it doesn't matter if the Prima set or the Trend - any set has 3 inserts: knifeless, knife 3.5 mm and 7 mm. I won't talk about the Pro's set, so as not to confuse you completely).
The set you chose is good, just exclude the knifeless one from it, it will be in the set itself. If something is not enough, then buy it according to your needs.

all weekend again rushed from Trend to Prima

I remembered the cartoon Three from Prostokvashino:
- Well, the stupid game has gone. I ran after her for half a day to take pictures.
- Now you will run after her for half a day to give her photos.

You will laugh ... I again stopped at Prima, after painful viewing of videos, I liked it more with its body, and the size is bigger and the handle seems to be more comfortable ...

[Sandy]

Sandywe will not laugh) We are like that) I have Prima - and I do not regret it at all) Again, do not look for the plug separately)

Girls, what should be written on the knives?

[Sandy]

Sandy - after VIP, of course I would like to accept, but!

What became worse in Prima - the distance from the blade to the bottom of the grater was reduced !!! And it can be seen even from the pictures!
That is, whoever chicks - a grater lying on a basin - makes no difference, but I'm used to putting the grater either on a board or in a large plate at an angle of 45 degrees, I work with good acceleration, and for me this decrease in the lower part is very, very critical.

But with all this, different Primovsky thicknesses - it's impossible without them, I can't imagine what I would do without this function in VIP - I have large bars for fries - one of the most popular cuts, sometimes I'm lazy and even crumble in a stew.

And I love my Trendik with tremulous love. Yesterday the borschik cooked: chopped cabbage on the back of the plug, onion - 3.5 mm, potatoes - 10 mm, carrots and beets - rubbed on Roko. My husband peeled vegetables 6 times longer than I rubbed them - cut them. I was offended right at me that I plowed it yesterday in the kitchen

Everywhere there is an inscription Berner

Everything, I finally made an order.
I chose Prima, 10 mm insert, pizza grader, and waffle. I'll buy the rest later, I want some more rock.
I will wait, they will bring it tomorrow the day after tomorrow.

[Sandy]

Sandy - after VIP, of course I would like to accept, but!

What became worse in Prima - the distance from the blade to the bottom of the grater was reduced !!! And it can be seen even from the pictures!
That is, whoever chicks - a grater lying on a basin - makes no difference, but I'm used to putting the grater either on a board or in a large plate at an angle of 45 degrees, I work with good acceleration, and for me this decrease in the lower part is very, very critical.

But with all this, different Primovsky thicknesses - it's impossible without them, I can't imagine what I would do without this function in VIP - I have large bars for fries - one of the most popular cuts, sometimes I'm lazy and even crumble in a stew.

I think I'll adapt to my Prima, especially since I didn't have any other models to compare, I'll start from scratch ... as they say

Probably, those who have something to compare with feel this difference. I didn't have Berner before, I don't know what the distance was)
I cut on Prima, too, without a basin, holding the grater at the angle I need, I cut it normally)))

the distance from the blade to the bottom of the grater - reduced !!! And it can be seen even from the pictures!
That is, whoever chicks - a grater lying on a basin - it makes no difference

So, "chick" on the basin

Here in this video there is a comparison of all models, well, not quite a comparison, but you can understand how they differ from each other

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A trend, it looks like at first all 3 modifications show what kind of Berner happens - orange classic, trend and prima

Isn't this Trend:

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There is no middle ground between Trend and Prima. He shows the orange Classic, white Trend, white Prima ... And he demonstrates Prima's work already in the Orange Prima) This color misled you.

Oh no, oboznatushki) There is an intermediate grater, Berner Vip-4 in my opinion is called. But in my opinion it is no longer on sale, out of production

White is a little narrower and there is no latch on the handle, and the bottom of Prima is slightly rounded, although they are all shown on one side. Look at the freeze frame, the difference can be seen where each model is shown in an enlarged view

Oh, no, oboznatushki) There is an intermediate grater, Berner Vip-4 in my opinion is called. But in my opinion it is no longer on sale, out of production

While typing the previous message, yours appeared. I wonder why it was taken out of production?

While typing the previous message, yours appeared. I wonder why it was taken out of production?

They considered that Prima completely replaces it.
But it is more nimble in the hand, it is easier and faster to rearrange the thickness on the VIP than on the example

Whoever has Prima first will get used to it without any problems (I'm toiling here, I can't get off the VIP, I'm so used to it)

And I love my Trendik with tremulous love. Yesterday, the borschik cooked: she chopped cabbage on the back of the plug, onion - 3.5 mm, potatoes - 10 mm, carrots and beets - rubbed on Roko. My husband peeled vegetables 6 times longer than I rubbed them - cut them. I was offended right at me that I plowed it yesterday in the kitchen

I also have a Trend. 10mm potatoes. do not want to eat in the first courses, they are accustomed to larger ones. If you only make rectangular ones, you must try. I also find it inconvenient to cut the onion into cubes on it, with my hands faster. How do you cut the onion by scoring in the holder? Maybe I'm the crooked one. Potatoes in 10mm cubes. for frying, yes, my favorite. Carrots for pilaf, 7mm. large, 3.5 small. What is the thickest thread on all 10mm models? Also without a knife, I would like a thicker shredder, for example, zucchini in circles for frying are very thin. I really like to cut cabbage, into borscht and ferment on a cap, into a salad on the thinnest one. Yesterday I cut Peking cabbage, too. In general, I need something else, but I don't know what. My dream about onion cubes did not come true quickly and without tears.

Annushka, I can pick onions as you like and on anything - it's more convenient for anything than with a knife! The only thing I never cut onions on is the 3.5 mm insert (as for me, it's too shallow for onions). The rest is great! Depending on my mood, I can read across in the holder, or I can. And in circles, and cubes (which then crumble into cubes). The bow on the Berner is a song! As, indeed, everything else. I used to use the combine as a vegetable cutter, but now I use it exclusively for cubes, dough and meat.

I downloaded the instructions for the Trend and the Prima, so in Trend they write that in order to make the cubes, you need to cut the vegetable in the holder with a knife and then rub it on a grater. And in Prima, you just need to rotate the holder 45 degrees and the cube will be drawn, I don't understand why this is so? Holders, how I understood the same, what's the secret? Why can't you just turn the holder 45 degrees on Trend? to make the cubes?

And in circles and cubes (which then crumble into cubes). The bow on the Berner is a song!

And for some reason it does not work out for me, they do not completely crumble, some remain in pieces. I also like to fry a lot of onions for future use, but cutting is always a problem.

I downloaded the instructions for the Trend and the Prima, so in Trend they write that in order to make the cubes, you need to cut the vegetable in the holder with a knife and then rub it on a grater. And in Prima, you just need to rotate the holder 45 degrees and the cube will be drawn, I don't understand why this is so? Holders, how I understood the same, what's the secret? Why can't you just turn the holder 45 degrees on Trend? to make the cubes?

There, the knives are arranged differently, so there are more remnants, it seems.

There, the knives are arranged differently, so there are more remnants, it seems.

Ahhhhh, that's the difference ... it's good that I ordered, I also want cubes from onions

And for some reason it does not work out for me, they do not completely crumble, some of them remain in pieces. I also like to fry a lot of onions for future use, but cutting is always a problem.

Now, on DECOK it also works like this - part of it crumbles, and part remains in cubes,



I will hope that on Prima I will learn how to chop cubes

Now, on DECOK it also works like that - part of it crumbles, and part of it remains in cubes, because of this I want to Prima saw enough of how she shreds cubes ...

there, too, it seems, not quite cubes in shape, but for frying, I think, this is not critical.

[Sandy]

Sandy it's not about the holder at all. He has nothing to do with it. The difference is in blade design. In the Trend, inserts are placed only in one position.
On Prima there is a position "cubes" - there the blades are so cleverly exposed that the insert is just below the V-shaped knife and the product is cut in two planes, it is cut deeper than usual, and then, due to this, cubes are obtained. But only on inserts 7 mm and 3.5 mm included. This cannot be done on the 10mm insert!

There, the knives are arranged differently, so there are more leftovers, it seems.

Not certainly in that way. The knife insert has two positions. In one position, passing the vegetable over the knives, you cut it to the full depth of the knives, after which the V-knife cuts the future blocks to the root. In the second position, the knives cut through the vegetable the same way to the full depth, and the V-knife cuts them only by half of their thickness - they will be cut at the root only the next time they pass through the V-knife! Thus, either the blocks are two times thinner than in the first case, or if the fruit holder is held at an angle of 45 *, each pass turning it on the other side, but at the same angle, produces rhombuses with a thickness that is half the side of the rhombus ... These are the so-called "cubes". I don’t know how clearly she explained.
Sandy, the choice is good. Choosing at least Trend, at least I will accept, you will not miss, you will adore your grater. They are both great! The main thing is to make friends with the fruit holder from the first minutes.

Not certainly in that way. The knife insert has two positions. In one position, passing the vegetable over the knives, you cut it to the full depth of the knives, after which the V-knife cuts the future blocks to the root. In the second position, the knives cut through the vegetable the same way to the full depth, and the V-knife cuts them only half the thickness - they will be cut at the root only at the next pass through the V-knife! Thus, either the blocks are two times thinner than in the first case, or, if the fruit holder is held at an angle of 45 *, each pass turning it with the other side, but at the same angle, rhombuses are obtained with a thickness that is half the side of the rhombus ... These are the so-called "cubes". I don’t know how clearly she explained.
Sandy, good choice. Choosing at least Trend, at least I will accept, you will not miss, you will adore your grater. They are both great! The main thing is to make friends with the fruit holder from the first minutes.

Yes, I will train, especially since I am not friends with the holder at all, my hands are constantly wounded from DECOK, and on the Berner I will get used to the holder the first time
Oh, I can't wait ... as time goes by slowly ...

I somehow immediately became friends with the holder, it is very convenient with him, although this is my first experience.

And for some reason it does not work out for me, they do not completely crumble, some of them remain in pieces.

Yes, the sides remain sticks. If this is critical - one cross-cut in the center can be made - this will be sufficient. Well, or two, if the bulb is large.
"Cubes" in Prima are not exactly cubes. Not only are they diamonds, but also the sizes are very different (it is impossible to hit the same place twice with knives, and after all, during the previous pass, an incision is already made into the next "cube"). Therefore, in the already rather small "cubes" there is a lot of non-formatted crumbs. As for me, it is more accurate to cut on a regular knife insert, having previously made one or two transverse cuts, but you get even beautiful cubes.
But I do not argue in any way! I just made my choice, and my choice does not seem wrong to me. I adore my terochka with quivering love. But if I had chosen Prima, I would have loved her just as tenderly. I repeat - they are both wonderful, just a little different.

I am not friends with the holder at all, my hands are constantly wounded from DECOK, but on Berner I will get used to the holder the first time

I somehow immediately became friends with the holder, it is very convenient with him, although this is my first experience.

Because the Decuk has an awfully awkward holder. And in Berner, the holder itself lies in the hand, you do not need to overpower yourself to get used to it.
Sandy, cut long vegetables into two or three parts at once, do not regret. Because the longer they are, the more inconvenient it is to cut them: the resistance force turns them at an angle, cutting the top of the vegetable with the pins of the holder. Therefore, either at first without a holder (but there were cases, experienced people opened their hands specifically !!!), and then into the holder, or immediately cut into convenient hemp, and put it in the holder. Then nothing will fall off, it will be convenient to cut, and the residues will be minimal (especially in the Trend).

I would not say that my DECOK holder is not convenient, it is very similar to Berner's




if the vegetable is cut into hemp, then mine holds perfectly, but I also need to shove it entirely there

And my Decock has a different fruit holder, combined with a citrus juicer. Here is the fairy. And this one really looks like Berner's, should be convenient.

I also have a Trend. 10mm potatoes. do not want to eat in the first courses, they are accustomed to larger ones. If you only make rectangular ones, you must try. It is also inconvenient for me to cut the onion into cubes on it, with my hands faster. How do you cut the onion by scoring in the holder? Maybe I'm the crooked one. Potatoes in 10mm cubes. for frying, yes, my favorite. Carrots for pilaf, 7mm. large, 3.5 small. Is there the thickest thread in all 10mm models? Also without a knife, I would like a thicker shredder, for example, zucchini in circles for frying are very thin. I really like to cut cabbage, into borscht and ferment on a stub, into a salad on the thinnest one. Yesterday I cut Peking cabbage, too. In general, I need something else, but I don't know what. My dream about onion cubes did not come true quickly and without tears.

I cut potatoes for soup on a 10-ke precisely into cubes, not cubes.
I don't cut onions for frying either. I just put it on the holder and at 3.5 or 1.6 (if in minced meat, in cutlets) I just pochikal.

Yes, the sides remain sticks. If this is critical - one cross-cut in the center can be made - this will be sufficient. Well, or two, if the bulb is large.
"Cubes" in Prima are not exactly cubes. Not only are they diamonds, but also the sizes are very different (it is impossible to hit the same place twice with knives, and after all, during the previous pass, an incision is already made into the next "cube"). Therefore, in the already rather small "cubes" there is a lot of non-formatted crumbs.As for me, it is more accurate to cut on a regular knife insert, having previously made one or two transverse cuts, but you get even beautiful cubes.
But I do not argue in any way! I just made my choice, and my choice does not seem wrong to me. I adore my terochka with quivering love. But if I had chosen Prima, I would have loved her just as tenderly. I repeat - they are both wonderful, just a little different.

Thanks for the clarification. You, as always, explain everything clearly. I love my grater too. I use it every day. The other day I was making apple chips in the dryer, I really liked it, and quickly.

Girls, tell me if you need a combichipser with Prima, as I understand it is needed for cutting into cubes, sticks, straws, so the same cuts can be made on the basic set? Or is it different?
And another question, Carly is needed mainly for cabbage?

You don't need a combichipser, you rightly said - everything is in the basic set for this)

What about Carly?

The question is still ripe - can the grater be washed in the dishwasher or not, will the knives become dull?

Nothing about Carly, I don't have her. This is for the girls) But like the pictures in the subject were - in the summer they cut cucumbers and radishes

[azaza]

Nothing about Carly, I don't have her. This is for the girls) But like the pictures in the subject were - in the summer they cut cucumbers and radishes

Where azaza she will poke her nose where to look, and she will tell a lot about Carly, I’m thinking if we are obsessed with waffles for salad, and we only eat Peking cabbage, so I need Carly or not, if I could see how she cuts a cucumber, for example, or a radish ... ..

[azaza]

Where azaza she will poke her nose where to look, and she will tell a lot about Carly, I’m thinking if we are obsessed with waffles for salad, and we only eat Peking cabbage, so I need Carly or not, if I could see how she cuts a cucumber, for example, or a radish ... ..

Azaza praises her very much. He uses a grape for durum cabbage salads. She somehow fluffs up the cabbage according to her words and it becomes soft. I don't have it yet, but it's worth it in the near future. Winter is in the yard. Red cabbage will begin to cut, and then Carly will have to come to a place. And if you only cut the Peking, then I think you can do without Carly. Just wait for the answer from Azaza, maybe she still uses it for something.

[tatyanka]

The girls have found a cookie, describes tatyanka how to make cubes:
The moment - I rub without a holder. But I don't recommend it to anyone.
We take a Burner grater (Vip-4, nozzle-straw 7), set the nozzle to position 1 for cutting cubes - as indicated on the nozzle itself, insert the potatoes into the holder. I hold the grater tilted in a bowl (I don’t use a Berner bowl - again, I don’t recommend it to anyone - a matter of taste) with my left hand, the potato holder in my right. Put your right hand over the grater, the arrows on the holder should match the direction of the long side of the grater. Let's call this state the initial state. in-and-out-and-out the holder (parallel to the surface of the grater) 45 degrees clockwise, * press it against the surface of the grater (the nozzle itself) and drag it over the surface, we observe how the sharp teeth of our nozzle enter the vegetable .. . and leave it on the other side :-). We return the holder with the vegetable to its original state. * And now we turn the holder by the same 45 degrees, but only counterclockwise. then everything in the text from * to * We alternate turns of the holder clockwise and counterclockwise. Until the vegetable in the holder runs out - push the holder cover until it stops. And we finish cutting our vegetable into cubes.
The blades on the nozzle and on the base of the grater in position 1 are mutually arranged in such a way that when you spend the first time, it makes cuts in it at a sufficient depth in one direction. When the second time - in the direction perpendicular to the initial, while cutting off the transverse layer, but not along the entire depth of the longitudinal notch, but only half. The next pass is again a deeper cut, and half of the transverse layer. Ie.one longitudinal notch is enough for two transverse ones.
After all the potatoes have been cut, in some places the cubes may be stuck together. It's not tragic. Just pat them with your hands, gently. They will disconnect.
How I cut carrots. I don't like messing around with small ones. I almost always choose a large one. Peeling boiled carrots. And (!) Without a holder, you can already start cutting it. The attachment is installed in the same way as for potatoes. What is the beauty of cutting without a holder - you do not need to carefully monitor the degree of rotation (only for the remnants of the vegetable), because you can draw straight once, and the second time - rotate 90 degrees, then straight again, which is much easier. than twice in different directions 45. When working with the holder - be sure to take into account the direction of the arrows, without it - turn the vegetable as you want, just take care of your fingers. When the carrot starts to run out, insert it into the holder. I usually begin to twist the remaining piece back and forth so that the distance from the fingers to the knives is maximum.
It's a pity that I don't have a camera. I would film this process and post it somewhere. In fact, everything is simple. And it takes a long time to write. While I was writing, you could grate a bowl of vinaigrette :-)
Good luck !!!

[It is very, very not recommended to wash any knives in the PMM at all !!!]

The question is still ripe - can the grater be washed in the dishwasher or not, will the knives become dull?

It is very, very not recommended to wash any knives in the PMM at all !!!
Good, expensive, well-sharpened knives have a bad edge over time!

Therefore, if you want the grater to last longer, it is better to wash it by hand!

I specifically checked on my knives, which I do not mind:
On a German excellent knife - the edge crumbled in places from 2 sinks at 60 C
Cheap knives don't care.