Manna
By the way, I have a question ... Probably, he is somewhat tactless, but ... I'll ask you anyway ...
zogar, and those multicooker / pressure cookers that you had / have, are they your multicooker / pressure cooker or your wife? I mean, do you cook in them?
Immediately I apologize if my question seems too personal to you.
zogar
Quote: nonamenm
And you could write options for multicooker, which in your opinion are preferable ...
To each his own.
In the summer, I could name my preferences, which can dramatically differ from yours. A lot is important in the choice: the number and composition of eaters, food preferences and much more. For example, one friend put the first item on the requirement that the multicooker bowl has ears.

In terms of the price / functionality ratio, it is still necessary to consider, although a considerable number of people recently do not focus on this moment in their requests (they began to live well!).

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Since there are experienced chefs here somewhat jealous refer to my advice on choosing electric pans, I consider it necessary to clarify: I am not a culinary specialist - I do not climb into other people's and high spheres of culinary art.

My topic is right choice: by correct price correct goods.

Optional multicooker and / or pressure cooker, optional in Russia. I always buy everything profitable - myself and to order. But only that which is interesting to yourself, which is ready to spend time studying. The main host forum (vxzone.com) "Forum about purchases in foreign online stores and at the eBay auction".

Here is my topic (over 18 thousand views) on multicooker on vxzone: "Multicooker Panasonic SR-JHS18-N / 220V "MADE in JAPAN" - 🔗
GalinaN
zogar, I think. that Panas 181 is a classic of the genre, programs are small, but at the same time sufficient for cooking simple dishes, I do not plan to cook delicacies, I cook on a gas stove and oven, a multicooker is needed mainly for those cases when there is little time and there is no way to control cooking ... I like the compact size, touch programs. Our choice of multicooker is not very large, I looked closely at the Philips 3036, 3077, 3058 models on the advice of Manna. I liked the 3077, but a lot of negative reviews
Rick
Quote: zogar
Since experienced culinary specialists here are somewhat jealous of my advice on choosing electric pans, I consider it necessary to clarify: I am not a culinary specialist - I do not climb into foreign and high spheres of culinary art.

My topic is right choice: by correct price correct goods.
What kind of jealousy are you? It's just that people come here for advice to real users of household appliances, and not to paid reviews and stars on YAM.
Correct from the point of view of whom? Real MV users or paid reviews on YAM? (I apologize for the tautology)
vernisag
Yes, I had 10 multicooker and I cannot always answer and advise unequivocally. Every day I cook only in multicooker and cannot name the best one. Even at the moment, when there are 880 types of them, it seems to me there is still no such multicooker that would satisfy all my needs and wishes.
But I don't need much at all, just a few points, but for some reason each has at least something that contradicts my requirements.
And most importantly, I know exactly what I need from a multicooker, since it is in practice I see the pros and cons of the device.
nonamenm
Good !
I will try to formulate my question in a slightly different way.
What are your personal preferences based on the parameters of price / functionality, ease of use and quality of the product (well, let's say, it won't break down quickly).
Thank you

Yes Volume 4-5 liters.Food preferences - porridge - in the morning, soup and the second (mainly stewing) - for lunch.
Dinner - stewing, double boiler. Weekend - pie, cupcake. Bread - there is a bread maker for him
zogar
nonamenm, now at my service - I will answer in the evening. I have time to ask an additional question: do you like to experiment / fantasize in cooking or are standard and reliable modes quite enough?
nonamenm
Quote: zogar
I have time to ask an additional question: do you like to experiment / fantasize in cooking or are standard and reliable modes quite enough?

Everyone loves to experiment. Only some are afraid, while others are lazy
Yes, I love it, but only after mastering the technique (I came to experiments with a bread machine after 6-7 months of operation).
The wife loves proven and reliable modes more, but after a year she begins experiments (although she can start much earlier in this unit).

PS Of course I would like to read the opinion of all multi-users.
And find out what points to pay attention to when buying.
Manna
Quote: zogar
Since experienced culinary specialists here are somewhat jealous of my advice on choosing electric pans, I consider it necessary to clarify: I am not a culinary specialist - I do not climb into foreign and high spheres of culinary art.

My theme is the right choice: the right price for the right product.
zogar, here the question is not jealousy, but that sometimes we are surprised by your recommendations and selection criteria. The fact is that these very selection criteria can be quite different for active users of multicooker and those who are simply well versed in the models (by studying the reviews on the Market and the attendance of topics on the forums). For example, for you (you often talked about this), the multi-cook and the number of programs are important. For the most part, these criteria are not so important in the experience of use (if the main modes are configured correctly, then there is absolutely no need for a multi-brew and a set of repetitive modes). Therefore, your choice is exclusively your choice, and it cannot be correct for everyone. And you quite categorically assert the opposite. All this surprises the "locals" So categorically you can only compare Marta MT-1936, Polaris PPC 0105AD and Steba DD1. And even then, personally, I would not dare to say unequivocally which of all the models in my use will be definitely better than the others, especially for other housewives (I can definitely only sweep aside the obviously "joint" multicooker). Irisha-Vernissage speaks about this. And many girls on the forum who have five or two multicooker. Therefore, we give advice "pay attention to", and not "this is what you need." Do you understand?
Although ... it seems to me that this is just a difference in male and female thinking and perception of the world. Women see more colors and shades
gala10
Mannochka, I read your post now and realized that I dared to advise when I had one slow cooker, and now, when I am waiting for the third one, for nothing! Because I began to understand something about them ...
And I also realized that it’s true - there is no perfect multicooker!
vernisag
Quote: GalinaN
I looked closely at the advice of Manna to the Philips 3036, 3077, 3058 models. I liked the 3077, but a lot of negative reviews
In my opinion, 3058 is better than 77.
Mannochka, and in these filipki the rice program is sensory? Is it working correctly? It seems to me that 3058 is straight, not even a bad cartoon, a bowl, we all know super, a well-tuned rice program, well, the drip tray is good, it's a pity it's not there. And so in general, just because of the bowl, you can already buy.
Manna
Irish, as far as I know, "Rice" for 3036/37 is touch-sensitive (it seems to work correctly), for 3075/77 too, but for 3058 it is not (the time is regulated in this mode). But I can't say for sure - I myself have not used them myself. But the bowls are good
vernisag
Thank you, Mannochka, I see.
Scarecrow
Besides, objectively, it cannot be better or worse. Therefore, there are so many cartoons for different tastes and preferences. The choice is SUBJECTIVE. That is, you highlight what exactly YOU like or dislike (I'm not talking about openly mowing devices now).I bought Zojirushi HP for a lot of money only because it has programmable modes. And not just programmable, but as I need it! So I don’t understand the categorical statements from the category: "The set of options and programs for this one is better than that of that ...". It is better for you, but for me and my habits, for example, it is not that ... Therefore, you can only offer and argue your proposal, because my arguments for someone else may be insignificant.
zogar
nonamenm, in my opinion, to begin with, it would be right to buy a budget product with good recommendations and in practice to identify your needs. And then the next cartoon will meet your needs to the greatest extent.
There are at least two burners for gas and electric stoves and there should be at least two multicooker-pressure cookers.

A good option as reported on page 403 is Stadler Form Chef One SFC.909 (4 sheets) for 1990 rubles. in St. Petersburg TechnoShock. A very good well-known model Polaris PMC 0512AD for 2456 rub. in the store It is also worth looking at Redmont RMC-M20 (5 liters) at a price of 1860 rubles. in the Internet shop Technostudio. This is a well-proven multi, with a large database of recipes and tips on the internet. All have 10-12 programs and the ability to manually adjust the cooking time, and the bowls are good.

The unbeatable price / performance ratio of the Polaris twin models is Polaris PMC 0507D Kitchen for 1280 rubles. and Polaris PMC 0508D floris for 1550 rubles. But, like most cheap models, the workmanship and workmanship are not stable (how lucky you are, which one you get) and the bowl coating is flimsy (there are complaints). You can and easily pick up an additional excellent bowl for these Polaris, but it will have a price almost equal to the cost of a multi (890-990 rubles). From budgetary Redmons interesting Redmont RMC-M23 at a price of 3348 rubles. Model of a little-known brand attracts attention Kitfort KT-203 the price of 2790 rubles.
All these multi-cookers have the "Multi-cook" mode (the ability to manually set both temperature and time).

When buying a multi, the closest attention should be paid to the condition of the bowl coating - it should be perfect, without chips, cracks and stains. The possibility of purchasing an additional bowl is also highly desirable.
I will write about multicooker in the middle (and high) price category next time - I want to sleep, the eyes close themselves.
nonamenm
zogar!
Thank you very much !
I'll wait about the middle category.
And I will definitely take an extra bowl ..
Rick
Girls, it seems to me? Or are we being ignored?
valushka-s
Quote: vernisag
well, the drip tray is good, it's a pity that it's not there
Irish, I'm certainly not talking about this cartoon, but as Mannochka said "how many people, so many opinions!" So I got used to it without a drip tray that in my mules, where they are, they are not convenient for me, well, maybe with the exception of SV.
nonamenm
Quote: Rick

Girls, it seems to me? Or are we being ignored?

Girls!
Yes, nobody ignores you. You ignore the questions yourself.
I asked everyone a question, and the answer was only from zogar.
Manna
Quote: nonamenm
I asked everyone a question, and the answer was only from zogar.
nonamenm, on our forum only zogar is called zogar
Here is your message "to all":
Quote: nonamenm
zogar!

You write: "the only Panas with a multi-cooker (Panasonic SR-MHS181) costs from 4915 rubles! Now you can buy a much better multi-cooker for half this price."

And could write options for multicooker, which in your opinion
Everyone's opinion you didn't ask
Scarecrow
Quote: nonamenm

zogar!
Thank you very much !
I'll wait about the middle category.
And I will definitely take an extra bowl ..

I don't understand additional bowls, to be honest. More than one bowl does not fit into a cartoon, and already prepared can simply be shifted. And this is more correct, by the way, so that the people do not poke around in the bowl when applying the dish. They will only scratch everything. I will not cook the next side dish and meat either (while you cook the second, the first has already cooled down). I do this simultaneously in two devices. Therefore, I do not have a single additional bowl (more precisely, Steba has it, but it was included in the set, I did not buy it). Shteba's bowls, moreover, are different, so there were two of them: steel and Teflon-coated.

Thanks to this "policy" I have all the bowls as new. Including from the Cuckoo, which is 4 years old - no less (if not more).
Manna
Quote: Scarecrow
I don't understand additional bowls, to be honest.
I support it very much. I am a supporter of a second multicooker than a second bowl.You cannot cook in two bowls at once, but in two multicooker you can cook separately meat and garnish, lunch and dessert, etc. I would not store food in bowls with a non-stick coating. I only store it in glass. I buy a second bowl only if the first one is damaged.
Loya
Hello, dear multicooker specialists! I have a question: I want to buy a cartoon for an elderly mother-in-law. Accordingly, the requirements for it are special: the buttons should be large and, if possible, be located on the top of the multi, the volume is 3 liters (ideally), from functions - soup, stewing, baking, porridge, rice, steaming. The multi-cook is not necessary, the signal would be rather loud. When scrolling through the topics, I did not find such information, although I am sure that such questions have already been raised. Thanks in advance for your answers!
Manna
Loya, and the four-button 101st Panasonic will not work? Or do you need a display?
There is also Moulinex 705132... It has large letters on the panel. True, he has problems with milk, and the bowl is "ceramic". I'm talking about this model only because it has large letters / buttons.
I don't even know what to say about the volume
Larssevsk
Quote: Scarecrow

I don't understand additional bowls, to be honest.

I don’t agree. At the time when, for example, soup is being cooked in one bowl, I already begin to cut the ingredients for the second course into another. By the time the soup is prepared, I have already soaked meat in the second bowl with onions and seasonings and vegetables are laid on top in layers. Very convenient. She pulled out the soup, put the second pan.

Plus some people use different saucepans for different smelling dishes. Just like chefs use different boards and knives for different foods. If I had only one cartoon, I would prefer to cook compotes and fish in different pots
gala10
Larissa,
I also have an additional pan for each cartoon, and they do not stand idle.
Loya
Manna, Moulinex looked. I like it. Can I have a link to Pasason?
Manna
Loya
Unfortunately, Moulinex was not on sale, but it fits better
Manna
Loya, Mulinex has real problems with milk, there is no suitable regimen. If only "dances with tambourines" arrange and cook in extra. capacity.
I don't know how in Togliatti, but in Moscow it should be in M. Video.
Loya
Milk is needed ... It seems that I also met Redmond ...
Scarecrow
Quote: Larssevsk

Plus, some people use different saucepans for different smelling dishes. Just like chefs use different boards and knives for different foods. If I had only one cartoon, I would prefer to cook compotes and fish in different pots

The bowl does not absorb odors. The odor is absorbed by the O-ring and food particles in the valves. Or should we also label ordinary pot pots: this one is only for milk, and this one is for fish? Like in canteens?)) No, we use them for everything. I'm just fine. In short, in my opinion, this is not an argument at all, but just a prejudice. Wash the bowl well enough.

As for the cut ... I just have ... 4 multi. I rarely cook one after the other. Because I have a very limited time, and I do everything almost simultaneously. Now in Shtebe, meat is cooked for broth, in a Panasonic rice cooker - brown rice, in oursson - salmon with ginger. I didn't get to the Cuckoo, because she is in the gazebo))).
Because of pre-cut to buy a bowl? I can cut it anyway. And in 2 minutes, collect the dish in a bowl and put it in the cartoon. In short, you can immediately see how different we are))).
* Anyuta *
Quote: Scarecrow
Or should we also label ordinary pot pots: this one is only for milk, and this one is for fish? Like in canteens?)) No, we use them for everything.

never Well, in general, in my life I have never cooked in a saucepan for porridge nothing but porridge.... the porridge pan is a milk porridge pan and that's it !!! Therefore, I don't have to mark it ...
so when I bought a Panas, I immediately ordered an additional bowl for cooking everything else, and left my family for cereals ...

By the way, a chicken egg (incl.and for Easter) and I used to cook vegetables for salad in a special separate vessel - now I just started cooking vegetables in a micr ...
Manna
Quote: Loya
Seems like Redmond smart met
What is this? Redmond has a regular display with regular buttons. The largest buttons are on the top of the 4502.

Quote: Scarecrow
you can immediately see how different we are))).
This is absolutely certain
I also cook milk, stew, and meat in one bowl ... I did not notice any extraneous odors. Unless if I forget to wash the plate
zogar
Loya, from 3-liter I was very interested in the model Brand 701, perhaps excessively functional, but at its cost (from 2990 rubles), you can come to terms with it. The knobs are at the top, but whether they are large enough is up to you. And I won't tell you about the volume of the sound signal, you yourself will listen in the store.

Rich car: 17 modes, including a manual five-step mode (multi-cook plus), a Yogurt program with three sub-modes (yogurt, sour cream, cottage cheese), the ability to turn on / off automatic heating, a bowl and a heating element with a ceramic non-stick coating (the bowl can also be with a non-stick Whitford coating to buy at a price of 890 rubles), two steamers included (container steamer and stand steamer), removable lid plate.
Two years warranty!

Read a good review "Multicooker Brand 701" - 🔗

It is simpler, and the buttons are smaller and on the side, but it has proven itself perfectly, a very popular model (and the price is from 1,711 rubles), at one time I aimed at it - this is REDMOND RMC-M11.

"Review of multicooker Redmond RMC-M11" - 🔗
Vasilica
We have our own theme for multicooker Brand 701why go somewhere.
Manna
Brand 701 with rather large buttons, display is also good size. The signal is loud. BUT! The bowl from the kit is very low-quality, you need to immediately buy a bowl with a non-stick one. And this is no longer 3m. r., and 4t. R. Although ... it's still worth it. Another thing is that for an elderly person it may be too difficult to manage. It is rather for "advanced" users.

In Redmond 11, the panel is located on the side of the case and is shallow.
Larssevsk
Quote: zogar

Loya, from 3-liter I was very interested in the model Brand 701, perhaps excessively functional, but at its cost (from 2990 rubles)

It costs now on Ozone 2691 (10% discount). There, in general, there is now a 10% discount on everything multi
Scarecrow
Quote: * Annie *

never Well, in general, in my life I have never cooked in a saucepan for porridge nothing but porridge.... the porridge pan is a milk porridge pan and that's it !!! Therefore, I don't have to mark it ...
so when I bought a Panas, I immediately ordered an additional bowl for cooking everything else, and left my family for cereals ...


How can this be explained? What's the point?!! The pan is stainless steel! Mine, at least. It does not absorb anything. At all. It washes well, unlike canteens, in boiling water, in PMM. In addition to personal cockroaches, I cannot explain this division into porridge / fish / sauce / meat / compote))).
Manna
Loya, yes, there is also binaton 2130. Only it does not have a display. And now I don't remember, does he have a signal? And the buttons are located on top, it seems not small. Each mode has its own button. The slow cooker is good.
Larssevsk
Quote: Manna

Loya, yes, there is also binaton 2130. Only it does not have a display. And now I don't remember, does he have a signal?

Manna, he has no signal.
Very correct modes. Very high quality casserole. Porridge does not run. Baking pleases.
But for a beginner without a display, without a signal, it's somehow scary to recommend
Admin
Quote: Scarecrow

How can this be explained? What's the point?!! The pan is stainless steel!

Apparently, this has been going on since ancient times ...
My mother and grandmother also taught me to have a separate pan for milk. And the neighbor's grandmother's friends also cooked milk in a separate saucepan - this was a law that everyone followed, including we, the young

Maybe this was due to the fact that the dishes in those days were mostly made of aluminum, and it is a porous material and absorbs product particles and odors.So that the milk does not sour during cooking and does not have extraneous odors - and keep a separate pan for these purposes

Times have changed - the principle of cooking has remained, and is transmitted through generations, I think so

And there was also a separate cast-iron pan for pancakes and pancakes - and besides pancakes, nothing was allowed to bake in it! Law!
* Anyuta *
Quote: Scarecrow
In addition to personal cockroaches, I cannot explain this division into porridge / fish / sauce / meat / compote))).

Let it be so ... cockroaches, so cockroaches ... but I categorically cannot eat milk after fish is prepared in the same dish, the smell of which, by the way, is very well absorbed into the dish ... well, I'm a sniffer .. I can smell any smell from a kilometer - to the extent that I can say with what detergent I washed the toilet while in the corridor ...
Manna
Quote: Larssevsk
But for a beginner without a display, without a signal, it's somehow scary to recommend
Larochka, but ordinary cooker pots also have no signal or display. In any case, you can consider this multicooker as another option for choosing.
By the way, Brand 701 I would advise to consider nonamenm, but only immediately with a non-stick bowl. This slow cooker, although inexpensive, has rich functionality and temperature range, and a 3 liter bowl is good for a small family. Yes, it is more difficult to manage than most multicooker, but videos are posted on our forum that will help you figure it out if suddenly something is not clear.
And if a pressure cooker is acceptable, then I would advise Stebu DD2.
On our forum there are topics about both models. You can read.
nonamenm
Quote: Manna
Everyone's opinion you didn't ask

Oh, your lies!
Message 8074

PS Of course I would like to read the opinion of all multi-users.
And find out what points to pay attention to when buying.

And in response, silence .......
Scarecrow
Admin,

No, with pancakes and pancakes everything was clear. I myself have a cast-iron pan just for this. Cast iron must be prepared for work. Then it does not burn, the pancakes are great fried. Cooking any other food in this frying pan knocks down the "settings" and pancakes can stick later, again you will have to do the preparation procedure. And I agree with aluminum. We also had an aluminum pan for porridge.

* Anyuta *,

Ank, with a stainless steel - this is a "placebo". It does not absorb the smell at all. And I have nothing at all except stainless steel, in my opinion. Not even enameled.

By the way, I am also famous for my nose. If a runny nose - I have a tragedy. So it's simply impossible to live!)))
Svetta
Quote: Scarecrow

How can this be explained? What's the point?!! The pan is stainless steel! Mine, at least. It does not absorb anything. At all. It washes well, unlike canteens, in boiling water, in PMM. In addition to personal cockroaches, I cannot explain this division into porridge / fish / sauce / meat / compote))).

Nata, shake your hand! I also don't understand the division by bowls. Indeed, a well-washed bowl does not smell, the rubber gasket on the lid smells, and that is very conditional. It "smells", rather, the consciousness that there was a fish. Yes, I agree that cabbage and fish have a specific smell when they are cooked. Well, you don't need to cook milk right after the cabbage, that's all. I have been using one Panas for 5 years already, after cooking I immediately transfer food from the bowl and wash it (twice after smelling). And my cup still looks super (!!!), and I never once thought about a spare. Now I bought a second cartoon (there was also Perfezka, I gave it), I also don’t need a spare bowl, I can do just fine with my family.
Anyway, talking about spare parts will not lead to any end - everyone adapts to their habits. Someone has one for all occasions, but someone has three pieces and a little.
Scarecrow
Now I will add here in this thread to the handle, I will go and buy myself a brand 701 out of greed. And my husband will kick me out. And all of you will be to blame! I like him. Functions.
I have already considered the new HP Panasonic. The husband said, looking over his shoulder: are we buying a new one? Here's sho for people, no say: don't you dare! No: why don't you want to? What's the matter with you? ... The men are completely crazy ...

Larssevsk
Quote: Manna

Larochka, but ordinary cooker pots also have no signal or display. In any case, you can consider this multicooker as another option for choosing.
Mann, if anything, send me for instructions

Nata, shake your hand! I also don't understand the division by bowls
I started a discussion here.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Larssevsk
I started a discussion here.

This discussion occurs every six months on different topics, so this is not the first or the last time ...

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