Biryusa
Quote: zogar
On YAM, reviews are moderated (not everyone is allowed to pass), but, nevertheless, marketers manage to break through under the guise of ordinary users - this is an indisputable fact.
And yet, even taking into account the breakthrough competitors-marketers, the situation with the quality of the compared models according to user reviews is as follows
I am distrustful of reviews on the Ya-Market, because several times I received offers from online stores to leave a positive review of the purchased product (indicating the order number) for a reward of 100-200 rubles / bonuses. And it also seems to me that the independent desire to write a review occurs more often among people who are disappointed with a purchase. Well, that's why I will try to register on Ya-Market in order to write a laudatory ode to Stebe (vacuum cleaner or blender), when I can share my joy of a successful purchase on my own Bread Maker, among like-minded people who will always share this joy with me

I wrote only my opinion, which may not coincide with the opinion of the majority, and even radically differ from it.

Hauneburus
Quote: Biryusinka
Well, that's why I will try to register on I-Market in order to write a laudatory ode to Stebe (vacuum cleaner or blender

I am of the same opinion. In Russia, if everything is ok, then no one will say thanks, but if something is wrong, they will already write))
Manna
Alexei, and you do not want Shtebu? She fries great. Or don't you want a pressure cooker? Shteba also has a DD2 model, although it is not on sale yet. It can work like a multicooker. And you can buy DD1 at OZONE if it is not available in your city.
Hauneburus
Manna, and Shtebu also do the Chinese brothers? Why is she so good that everyone praises her? ) This is the first time I've heard about such a brand ...
In theory, it should be on sale soon, let's look at the characteristics and price tag. I'm not in a hurry with the purchase, until I fully test 4502 for the multicooker capabilities

P.S. well, as they say - everything universal does not work. I would probably like a multicooker, although I don't see anything wrong in a pressure cooker)
V-tina
Alexei, and you Stadler did not look? A very good slow cooker, in the first there was a weak frying, but now, they say, very good
Manna
Quote: Hauneburus
Do Shtebu brothers do the Chinese too? Why is she so good that everyone praises her?
Now everything is done in China.
Steba has a temperature step of 1 ° C, a good range. Excellent frying. Possibility of stewing, cooking yoghurt, baking at 0.3 kPa (two pressure levels - 0.3 and 0.7). Steel bowl included. There is an opportunity to purchase a non-stick bowl (at OZONE it is a gift). Interesting cubic design. Overall, decent quality. The brand is really German (and not just registered there), but it is produced in China.

A temperature range has also been added to DD2, which is not in DD1 - from about 89 ° C to 100 ° C. This allows the pressure cooker to be used as a multicooker - without pressure build-up and with the ability to open the lid during cooking.
Manna
Tina, I've also heard about the new Frying in Stadler, but I don't understand why these changes have increased the temperature or just replaced the bowl with a thinner one ("ceramics")?
Masinen
Manna, I put a Redmond bowl in Stadler and still the frying is not as it should be. Yes, it fries harder, but not that.
I think we made some changes to Stadler's firmware.
zogar
Quote: Manna
A temperature range has also been added to DD2, which is not in DD1 - from about 89 ° C to 100 ° C.
Steba DD1: in "Heating"temperature can be set in the range 30 - 80 degrees, in the "Slow cooking / Simmering" in the range 82 - 88 degrees;
Steba DD2: in "Heating"temperature can be set in the range 30 - 80 degrees, in "Languor+" in the range 80 - 150 degrees.
V-tina
Quote: Manna

Tina, I've also heard about the new Frying in Stadler, but I don't understand why these changes have increased the temperature or just replaced the bowl with a thinner one ("ceramics")?
I read about the new firmware, but for the life of me, I don't remember where
Manna
Quote: V-tina
read about the new firmware
Quote: Masinen
made changes to Stadler's firmware
It is a pity that there is no one to compare both versions to understand how significant the difference is.
Felisata
Good morning everybody!!!
I am suffering with the choice of the second multi) I already have a Panasonic181, still of the Thai assembly) I am very pleased with it, this is my workhorse)
Now I want something more interesting:
-Multi-cook with 1 degree temperature control and high top temperature
- yogurt mode is adequate
-possibility to cancel heating
-liked the idea of ​​the handles on the saucepan
- Teflon or ceramics does not matter, you can always buy an additional saucepan
- liked the idea of ​​the removable inner cover
- the function of a pressure cooker is basically not needed
-budget up to 5 thousand
Please advise me the model)
P.S.) I am considering Redmond, but their advertising is a little infuriating and causes rejection
zogar
Felisata, you have a tough choice between Steba DD2 and Steba DD2.

This is because a multi-cook with a step in 1 only her degree (the upper adjustment limit 150 degrees). But DD2 does not have a heating cancellation mode (the problem is solved by purchasing a timer-outlet) and a bowl without handles. And for the price, DD2 is also unlikely to fit into your budget - the previous model, the Steba DD1, is now offered at 4990 rub.

Steba DD2 is expected to be on sale from September this year. g.

Masinen
Quote: Manna

It is a pity that there is no one to compare both versions to understand how significant the difference is.
So, for half a year now I have been planning to take my Stadler to the service for repair. Tk Fry, generally fu ..
I'll take it all the same, let it change there. I already read in Stadler's topic that someone wore and made her fry normal.
Manna
Quote: Masinen
I'll take it all the same, let it change there.
Yeah-yeah, then I'm really looking forward to your impressions Whistle to me later so that I don't miss
ne_peku
Quote: Masinen

So, for half a year now I have been planning to take my Stadler to the service for repair. Tk Fry, generally fu ..
I'll take it all the same, let it change there. I already read in Stadler's topic that someone wore and made her fry normal.

An acquaintance bought Swizz Style SFC.909 for 4 liters in July. There is no frying at all, although the firmware version is the second, the time on the programs is changed, not like the first stadler. He tries to fry in baking, but it takes a very long time. She hoped that it would be something like my Polaris, active. Of course you can "fry", but it's not frying. I decided to buy the second one with normal roast, because it did not work out of this universal device.
As for attributing to the service, I don't think it will be better. Although, you can try. What, is there some kind of improved firmware and is it personally uploaded to someone? This is not a smartphone so that it is so easy to change, you have to change a whole block - a board. The program has not been brought to mind and will no longer be. A slow cooker is good for everything except frying. There is no real frying in it, which was stated at 150 degrees. It remains to mummyk with "baking", but as anyone.

The meaning for them is to change something in the old, if already Stadler-2 comes out, with a multi-cook.
INFA from here 🔗

🔗

Chef two - a stylish and sociable device for the same owners, which will delight not only with delicious dishes, but also with an impeccable appearance. The fresh design makes the Chef two from a number of other similar devices due to the original shape of the case, which saves kitchen space, as well as a combination of textures - matte plastic and glossy glass. Thanks to 16 cooking programs including "chef", this multicooker will find a common language with anyone, and even with little fussy - for this case there is a mode "children's menu".
And the confidence that only useful substances will be in the finished dish provides ceramic bowl cover. The design and technology of this multicooker is one step ahead: the innovative Touch line control has been added to the stylish touch panel.A few light touches - and lunch is already being prepared, and all information about the process is reflected on the large informative LCD display.

Technical features:
16 cooking programs including "chef" and "kids menu"
Touch line control panel
Large informative LCD display
Delay of ready time up to 24 hours
Keeping warm
Bowl volume: 4 l
Bowl material anodized aluminum with ceramic coating
Power: 800W (cooking)
Voltage: 220-240 W, 50 Hz
Dimensions (w: d: h): 240x300 * 240 mm

Accessories:
Measuring cup (160 ml), spatula, soup spoon, wire rack for cooking in the "Steamer" mode.
Manna
ABOUT! Another cube
Rick
Yeah, and I immediately thought)))
gala10
Quote: ne_peku
provides a ceramic coating on the bowl.
Not over ...
I was happy, I remember, 1.5 years ago that the coating is ceramic, and now I bake everything in the oven, despite the heat. There is no question of frying ... Well, and on... why is it necessary?
Manna
Quote: Manna
Steba has a temperature step of 1 ° C
Quote: zogar
multi-cook in 1 degree increments only for her
By the way ... a step of 1 ° C is not that important at all. There are other multicooker (for example, from Polaris) in 2 ° C increments. Why is it not so important? Because it Heating elements devices, and they have a deviation range from the set temperature of 2-3 ° С
This information is for those who decided to take the temperature step as a selection criterion
Felisata
zogar, thanks for the advice, but they do not suit me) I want exactly multicooker and I don’t want to freeze with pressure) the design of the bars for me is also not very suitable for my kitchen)
Stafa
Quote: Manna
ABOUT! Another cube
In comparison with the staff, this stadler is a straight coffin of some kind of monstrous.
zogar
Felisata, I did not advise, I just suggested that under the first point (temperature step 1 degree) only Shteba is suitable, there are no other models.

The multicooker most closely matches your preferences Polaris PMC 0531AD: in a multi-brew in the range from 90 to 110 ° С, the temperature step is 2 ° С, in the range from 30 to 90 ° С - 5 ° С, in the temperature range from 110 to 160 ° С - 10 ° С. There is a heating cancellation function, a removable inner lid and a bowl with handles. In addition to the "Multi-cook" mode, there is also the "Multi-cook a plus".

“Multipovar” and “Multipovar Plus” differ from each other in that in “Multipovar” it is not possible to prepare a dish in one stage, setting the time and temperature manually, and in “Multipovar Plus” for one recipe you can program from one to three consecutive stages cooking, with the setting of an individual time and temperature at each stage.

In Eldorado, the price is 3999 rubles.

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

Rick
Quote: zogar
Now I use Steba DD1 ECO (the representative office of Steba gave it to me for testing),

zogar, and where can I read the results of your testing?
Felisata
zogar, thanks) I'll take a closer look at this model
zogar
Quote: Rick
... where can you read your test results?
When asked to test Steba DD1 ECO, I wrote that my food regimen is the simplest (not a cook) and I don't want to change it. To which the following response was received: "Of course, you don't need to change your regime and I don't ask for any recipes with culinary delights - the forum is not culinary. An honest and private opinion on this model will be fine. Since outwardly it does not immediately repulse, as sometimes happens, I hope that you will "make friends" and be able to share your impressions with other visitors and forum participants without advertising where you got it."

I hate the Redmont (and in general all) "sent Cossacks", I think it's a lousy job for market operators - that's why I don't hide the origin of the shtebka.

What's good is good, the kitchen device is really solid, but I will write my own complaints about Steba DD1 ECO.

Firstly, it would not hurt, in my opinion, to have well-read program names on the sides of the buttons with symbols. Those who cook often will remember the meanings of the symbols, but I had to climb a couple of times for them into the Instruction.

The second unpleasant moment was pressure incontinence, also a couple of times. Repeatedly closing the lid did not fix the matter until I noticed that this silicone gasket was warped.Probably a reliable fixation of the gasket can be provided with an appropriate engineering solution ...

Third, and most importantly, the price!

While the boil was unique with its multi-cook mode (with the possibility of a temperature step of 1 degree), coupled with the quality of materials (there was no plastic stench - I began to cook immediately, without steaming with lemon) and assembly - the price was more or less tolerable. As a result of competition, other companies (the same Polaris) began to improve the consumer qualities of their products, to reduce the temperature step, but this had almost no effect on the price of the stem.

For this money (today the price is from 4990 rubles), I would not buy it, because I try, like many others, to purchase things with the best functionality / quality ratio.

It is much more practical, in my opinion, to purchase a multicooker average price category and budgetary a pressure cooker - it would not be much more expensive, but much more convenient (two bowls, two appliances - more reliable).
Masinen
zogar, about the inscriptions.
What are they needed for? From the pictures it is clear what each button is for.
As I bought Shteba and read the instructions once, I didn't look at it anymore.
There is no place to put the inscriptions and it would not be beautiful.
And I bought Shteba for 7500 rubles and with 1 steel bowl.

Your opinion as men with a narrow menu is not an indicator.
Women with their families in Shtebe cook anything and everything and do what they did not foresee to produce.
I do not think that having bought a cheap, although much cheaper, pressure cooker and a cheap glitchy multicooker, then you can replace Shteba.

I am writing not because I am defending Shteba, but because, in addition to Shteba, I have three multicooker and also dear Kuku. So of all my pots, I use Shteba.
It is simple, convenient and fast.
But that's my personal opinion.
Rick
zogar, thank you very much for such a detailed answer. Of course, as many people as there are opinions. But the best confirmation of words Masinen is that many users of DD1 want to buy DD2 (including me).
Quote: zogar
“Of course you don’t need to change your regime and I don’t ask for any recipes with culinary delights - the forum is not culinary. An honest and private opinion on this model will be quite satisfactory. you can share your impressions with other visitors and forum participants without advertising where you got it. "
And yet, if it's not a secret, on which forum can you read your impressions in more detail?
zogar
RickHaving received the staff, I was going to make an overview and for a start I even took pictures from different angles. And then I discovered that the materials on Steba DD1 ECO tueva hucha!
Including the whole section on the bread maker - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&board=543.0 .

I did not pour from empty to empty, because in the subject "Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker Steba DD1 ECO" - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=278949.0 - more than seven thousand messages, well, what new could I say there ?!

In short, on our site he limited himself to the proposal to ask me questions (just not about cooking!) And posted links to THREE review Steba DD1 ECO - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=298953.new#new .

It's just that in all cases, I usually advise you to take a closer look at this or that model, but I safely recommend to the headquarters - this if I think it fits the requirements the questioner.
Rick
Well, what are you ... And the forum is interesting because each real user can share real impressions and experiences about a particular model in the relevant topic. And theoretical reviews and reviews on NM can be read without our forum.
zogar
Advice for those wishing to spend 5-7 thousand on a multicooker - take a closer look at the duo: multicooker (with multi-cook!) Kitfort KT-203 + pressure cooker UNIT USP-1010D.

In a multicooker 20 automatic programs, of which three sensory... Multi-cook with a temperature range of 35 -160 degrees and a delay start timer. Ceramic bowl.
On the official website, the price is 1,790 rubles, if you buy another extra bowl, then delivery in Central Russia will be free (when buying from 2,500 rubles).

"Inexpensive and competitive cartoon - Kitfort KT-203"- this topic on

Pressure cooker UNIT USP-1010D in "HouseBT" is offered at a price of 1500 rubles. - 🔗

Thus, by paying a ridiculous 4 thousand rubles (with a tiny tail), you will have a functional multicooker with an additional bowl and a budget pressure cooker - this is enough to meet all your cooking needs.
Vika
Please tell me about the Redmond M90 multicooker, how the function of the deep fat fryer showed itself (french fries, chops, meat in the quail) and how the multicooker itself, I don't want to throw money down the drain a second time. There was Polaris 0523, everything was fine, but after 3 months of use, I would go to the service center for the second time, although I used it very carefully, I also want to cook porridge for the kids and sometimes pamper my family with fries, in general, whoever has this device, please, will be grateful for any feedback.
Vika
Thank you, but why are they silent, I thought maybe there will be good people here and write their impressions about this slow cooker and the function of deep frying?
zogar
Vika, kind people have already thrown out a lot of different impressions (a total of 167) on the YAM reviews page - 🔗

Read filtering.
julia_bb
Quote: Masinen
It is simple, convenient and fast.
I subscribe to every word, and I want to buy DD2 for the dacha! And you can also do sous-vide in it))
irina23
My Steba is also my favorite
Panochka
I can't decide what to buy multi or soon? It is necessary for a summer residence, there is no gas. Requirements - the taste of food !!! Speed ​​is not important to me. I will cook baked meat, stew, porridge, pies. All that needs to be cooked in the oven, but it is not. The cost is approximately 1500 - 3000 UAH or 100-250 US dollars. I thought as an option to buy an inexpensive and small multi and a large pressure cooker in the budget. What do you advise? The pros are behind me.
zogar
Panochka, with your budget, it is possible to purchase both multi and pressure cookers. It will also remain.

For example, a multi-cooker Redmond RMC-M90 in PALLADIUM for UAH 1520. (or Redmond RMC-M70 in TELEMAN for UAH 1528 - that's what you like, they are similar in functionality) + pressure cooker SCARLETT SL-1529 in PALLADIUM for 866 UAH + additional bowl to the mult for 436 UAH. in the same PALLADIUM.

From three thousand UAH 1766 lags behind. - maybe enough for delivery.
Panochka
Quote: zogar

Panochka, with your budget, it is possible to purchase both multi and pressure cookers. It will also remain.

For example, a multi-cooker Redmond RMC-M90 in PALLADIUM for UAH 1520. (or Redmond RMC-M70 in TELEMAN for UAH 1528 - that's what you like, they are similar in functionality) + pressure cooker SCARLETT SL-1529 in PALLADIUM for 866 UAH + additional bowl to the mult for 436 UAH. in the same PALLADIUM.

From three thousand UAH 1766 lags behind. - maybe enough for delivery.
and before you advised Kitfort KT-203, maybe her? Whose will it be?
The husband, a scoundrel, does not want to buy two at once, he says you haven’t tried another one, but you’re already looking at two. I'll start with one, which is better multi or soon? Even one for 3000.
zogar
Quote: Panochka
... you used to recommend Kitfort KT-203, maybe her?
So I look where I answer! - On the Ukrainian market, this brand has not caught the eye, it is possible that there are no supplies at all.

By the way, in post-Soviet countries, a high price is not at all an indicator of quality. I myself prefer the product with the best price / quality ratio.

Well, it's a master's business, a rich multicooker from an expensive one is Redmond RMC-250, at Fotos for UAH 2792, it has both a multi-cook and a multi-chef - top technology. But these bows are opportunities for advanced chefs, and for an ordinary cook, Stadler Form will be good from expensive multicooker (prices are around UAH 2500, there are models for 3, 4, 5 liters - prices for them differ, functionality is the same) - multi-cook (manual setting the temperature and cooking time) they do not have, only automatic programs, but they are good, sensory (the program itself determines the cooking time, by boiling off the liquid).

Multicooker is more functional and safer - after all, cooking in them without pressure, not like in a pressure cooker.
Panochka
Quote: zogar
Kitfort KT-203
🔗 on the site, I do not know the availability.
zogar
PanochkaKitfort KT-203 in Ukraine and in Russia is a big difference: in Russia this multicooker is sold for 1,790 rubles, and in Ukraine for 4160 rubles. (at the official rate). I offered it as cheap alternative to advanced multicooker, but it does not stand next to the M90 ​​and, moreover, from the RMC-250. With an equal price of M90 with KT-203, there is nothing to think about, definitely M90! She has a wide temperature range: 35 - 170 degrees in 5 degrees increments, pre-heating shutdown, a good bowl.And recipes and tips - the sea is poured!

By the way, the situation with the price of M90 in Russia is the opposite: from 1940 UAH. (at the official rate), which is a quarter more expensive than in Ukraine. So make a conclusion what and where it is more profitable to buy.

Kitfort is a dark horse, only three reviews in YAM (versus 168 for M90). What kind of bowl, how correctly the programs work, what kind of reliability - this is all unknown, and the instructions do not even indicate the temperature step and the temperature range itself is somewhat narrower than that of the M90 ​​(35 - 160 degrees). There is no preliminary heating shutdown.
But at the Russian price, the purchase looks more than justified!
Panochka
Quote: zogar

PanochkaKitfort KT-203 in Ukraine and in Russia is a big difference: in Russia this multicooker is sold for 1,790 rubles, and in Ukraine for 4160 rubles. (at the official rate). I offered it as cheap alternative to advanced multicooker, but it does not stand next to the M90 ​​and, moreover, from the RMC-250. With an equal price of M90 with KT-203, there's nothing to think about, definitely M90! It has a wide temperature range: 35 - 170 degrees in 5 degrees increments, pre-heating shutdown, a good bowl. And recipes and tips - the sea is poured!

By the way, the situation with the price of M90 in Russia is the opposite: from 1940 UAH. (at the official rate), which is a quarter more expensive than in Ukraine. So make a conclusion what and where it is more profitable to buy.

Kitfort is a dark horse, only three reviews in YAM (versus 168 for M90). What kind of bowl, how correctly the programs work, what kind of reliability - this is all unknown, and the instructions do not even indicate the temperature step and the temperature range itself is somewhat narrower than that of the M90 ​​(35 - 160 degrees). There is no preliminary heating shutdown.
But at the Russian price, the purchase looks more than justified!
Thank you very much!!! And if you choose multi / soon, what do you recommend?
Panochka
What to choose from Steba DD1 - 3350 UAH, Brand 6051 - 2600 UAH, Oursson MP5015PSD - 3400 UAH?
zogar
Panochka, from what you suggested for consideration, I would not take anything for myself - just because of the crazy price.

Point-by-point, I think Steba is on sale at a high price: UAH 1773. (against your UAH 3350), Brand has a fair price: UAH 1250. (against your UAH 2600), Oursson is very, very expensive here: UAH 3056. (against your UAH 3400).

If we assume that you are a relative of Akhmetov (or Kolomoisky) and the prices do not care, then the analysis of the models will go according to the functionality and quality of each.

The most advanced on the list is Brand 6051, it has it all: manual pressure adjustment (high and low pressure cooking), 3 manual cooking steps (multi-cook a plus) with the possibility of setting the pressure level in each mode, the presence of an upper temperature sensor, setting the temperature from 25 ° C to 130 ° C with a step of 5 ° С; the possibility of canceling automatic heating at the end of the program, saving the program during power surges up to 20 seconds, removable inner lid, container for collecting condensate, ceramic coating of the heating element. And a fair price (for the Russian market).
But. as you can see, in a multi-cooker, the upper temperature regime is only 130 ° C - it is no longer possible to cook in deep fat, it may be important for someone. An even greater disadvantage is revealed by quality reviews: complaints about the excessively long time of pressure build-up and about the silicone ring-gasket that absorbs odors, strong heating of the case.

The most reliable and high-quality made of high-quality materials, with a unique multi-cook (in which a temperature step of 1 degree) allows you to cook using the sous-vide technology (sous-vide), manual selection from two pressure levels, with an original design - this is Steba DD1 ECO... At the same time, this is the least functional multi-cook, since manual temperature setting is possible in a very narrow range: in the "Heating" mode, 30-80 degrees, in the "Slow Cooking / Simmering" mode, 82-88 degrees (this is corrected in the new DD2). And there are only four multicooker programs (cooking without pressure): "Steam", "Slow cooking / Simmering", "Roasting", "Heating". Reviews are very good, there are no bad ones at all!

Oursson MP5015PSD modification of Oursson MP5005PSD which a couple of years ago was almost a cult pressure cooker. The changes are big in price (it has grown by more than a quarter!), But otherwise a little: they write that the cover was strengthened (there were many complaints about cracked covers), a couple of buttons were renamed and the interface was Russified. That is, before it was the most advanced and an expensive pressure cooker, now with the development of competition this ordinary advanced, but very expensive. But beautiful for my taste.

Manna
Quote: zogar
as you can see, in a multi-cooker, the upper temperature regime is only 130 ° C - it is no longer possible to cook in deep fat, it may be important for someone.
She has a fry at 150 ° C.
By the way, although it is the most advanced in terms of functionality, the bowl is difficult to clean - deep honeycomb and "ceramic" coating.

Panochka
I'm shocked, but what should I take? Of course, due to the jump in the dollar, prices increased, and the risk of default was also invested in them. What can you say about Polaris PPMC 0124D, the same around 3400?
irina23
What to choose from Steba DD1 - 3350 UAH, Brand 6051 - 2600 UAH, Oursson MP5015PSD - 3400 UAH?

I have Steba DD1 and Brand 6051 - I like both, but I cook much more in Stebe.
Ofeliya
Panochka, on the off site Shteba DD1 costs 2040 UAH. I do not know if they will confirm it after placing the order, but such a product and at such a price is listed as "in stock".

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