Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

[IRR]

girls, we are all: girl_love: we love our pans and everyone is ready to break for them, I myself am so, but sometimes you have to compare and choose.

IRR, This is true! I agree that overpaying 200-300 hryvnia for unnecessary functions are not worth it, but I'm not sorry for the money, because my 60 is fully involved. And in 50, I already have nowhere to spread my wings.

in general, by and large, not thought out. 2 programs that duplicate themselves - yogurt and manual 40 gr.

Yeah, it would be better to make 31 instead of 40! There is no perfection in the world

[IRR]

IRR, This is true! I agree that overpaying 200-300 hryvnia for unnecessary functions are not worth it, but I'm not sorry for the money, because my 60 is fully involved. And in 50, I already have nowhere to spread my wings.

fine!
I have- envious eyes, grabbing hands - I will buy, and then I persuade myself that the money was not spent in vain

and over time, when the veil subsides, I get tired, I can reason sensibly. Only temporarily, until the next relapse.

[IRR]

Now this is not very relevant because in the kitchen there are about 30 - that's the most for proofing.)
And in winter, of course, it is very convenient. But it is better not to leave for a long time. Turn on for 10-15 "yoghurt" or 40 degrees, and then turn it off and just leave it, the heat will remain. This is more convenient than just turning on the "heating" for proofing. After all, you can overheat, accidentally forgetting for 10 minutes.

No, well, right now, it's clear. In summer, sometimes you need to send it to the refrigerator for proofing. And about 40 * I just imagined it: for 10 minutes, and then let it come by itself.

IRR, but here I am thinking: not thought out! This dubbing of functions is useless! It would be better instead of 40 and 100 * on the handbrake made 30 and 95. Look, even oatmeal at 95 * would behave with dignity. I, too, suffer from "wrong" cereals. But it's easier with porridge now - now the pressure cooker is responsible for them.

[heating]

And about 40 * I just imagined: for 10 minutes, and

Tanya! with the same success for 10 minutes can be sent to heating (there are correct 80 grams, but after about an hour of work) well and why What do these 40 grams give, like a program, right? although we have already answered this question.

[IRR]

IRR, but here I am thinking: not thought out! This dubbing of functions is useless! It would be better instead of 40 and 100 * on the handbrake made 30 and 95. Look, even oatmeal at 95 * would behave with dignity. I, too, suffer from "wrong" cereals. But it's easier with porridge now - now the pressure cooker is responsible for them.

azaza, well, there it is, in milk porridge, not 100, but a little less, so the porridge does not run away. I only ran out of oatmeal once when I poured it almost to the top mark. And when I cook for a liter - everything is fine!

By the way, I'm all about the benefits of 60s. But right after 50, I found one drawback in 60 - this is the display of the heating time (after the end of any program). In 50-ke the time was displayed in minutes and hours, and in 60-ke - only in hours. At first it was very unusual, but then I resigned myself)

girls, we are all: girl_love: we love our pans and everyone is ready to break for them, I myself am so, but sometimes you have to compare and choose.

Yes, if it weren't for bread, 50 would be enough for nowhere! She more than suits me. That's why I stopped now at 60: like the same cartoon, but also sharpened for bread. Otherwise, I would not refuse Pefezka with stainless steel. But I will not stand the dough in Perfezka, then transfer it to another pan and bake in Dex. Well, I want to go from dancing with the oven to smaller dances, but not to big ones.Actually, if the child did not need a cartoon, she would dance for herself with fifty dollars. And all the same, after all, you will have to buy something. And if you buy - either Perfezka with a stainless steel for a child (about 750 UAH), or 60 for yourself (about 800). The child doesn't care about the drum, just to stew and cook, she doesn't need anything else.

like the same cartoon, but also sharpened for bread.

what bread? 40 g? ??? just discussed that this is also a belly dance with a tambourine ... you can defrost it on heating.

they are all sharpened under bread with such a layout ...

so what? they bake excellently in perfese. is not it so?

I don't know why you scold the Panasonic bowl so much. You just need to read our forum For more than a year, I have plowed and plowed this bowl. I bought immediately, as advised here, a silicone spoon and a spatula. The bowl is in order, even though I threw bones at it, and I am actively interfering in it.
Although, of course, I think the price for Panasik (here, in Russia) is too high. It could well have been a thousand or a half cheaper.
It bakes nicely, you want charlotte muffins, you want bread.

I am also an active user of Panasonic for more than a year already. The bowl feels great. You just need to handle it with care. Do not throw it into the sink with the rest of the dishes, but buy a spatula and a ladle special for such coatings.
Today I bought MV Brand, now I sit and torment myself with the question: which one should I take to the dacha, and which one should I leave in the apartment?

Today I bought MV Brand, those

Congratulations,

sit now and suffer

Ilona, ​​and what brand did you take? 01 or 02?

what bread? 40 g? ??? just discussed that this is also a belly dance with a tambourine ... you can defrost it on heating.

they are all sharpened under bread with such a layout ...

so what? they bake excellently in perfese. is not it so?

IRR, I tried it a couple of times on heating, in 10 minutes the dough is killed in the seams Still, 40 * are not so critical. They will not have time to leave the dough in 10 minutes. Toka-toka will warm the saucepan. And then on the principle of a thermos. But this is not what I say, this is how I imagine it! That's why I'm asking. Maybe my idea is wrong!
But whatever one may say, you need to buy a new cartoon. Because the child needs it, and I just give one of my own disagreeing, change the current awl for soap And the choice, by and large, is small: either Dex-60, or Perfezka + stainless steel. The prices are approximately identical.
The oven is baked in Perfezka. But as in Libera 2 cycles, for me it is too long (and the child does not need it at all). Lieber also bakes great, but more often I use Dex for bread: both quickly and efficiently.

[azaza]

azaza, well, there it is, in milk porridge, not 100, but a little less, so the porridge does not run away. I only ran out of oatmeal once when I poured it almost to the top mark. And when I cook for a liter - everything is fine!

By the way, I'm all about the benefits of 60s. But right after 50, I found one drawback in 60 - this is the display of the heating time (after the end of any program). In 50-ke the time was displayed in minutes and hours, and in 60-ke - only in hours. At first it was very unusual, but then I resigned myself)

Milk porridge - 98 *. Rice porridge does not seem to run away (except because of rotten milk). But milk porridge - they are not only rice, the question is much broader. There are quite a few capricious croup, rising with a very plentiful cap. By an evil coincidence, the most valuable cereals mean the most. This is oatmeal, and yak, and pearl barley. They say that millet (or wheat?) Is also capricious, but I haven't tried it myself, I won't argue. But yak and oatmeal - yes, they run mercilessly. So I think: maybe 95 * would be just in time for them? And just before the end of cooking, gently bring to a boil. For example, the same oatmeal with a yachka is superbly cooked on languishing - after a long languishing at low temperatures, they no longer even think of running away.

Heating time in hours is inconvenient, yes. But I have it in Libera, nothing, not fatal. But in 60-ke on steam, the countdown is not from the beginning of the program, but from boiling - and this is already a big plus.

[azaza]

So I think: maybe 95 * would be just in time for them?

azaza, in "milk porridge" the temperature is high only at the beginning of the program, and then decreases.
In the instructions for dex 60 it is written so "Milk Porridge - The content of the multicooker is brought to 98 degrees, and then reduced to 80".

IRR, I tried it a couple of times on heating, in 10 minutes the dough is killed in the seams Still, 40 * are not so critical. They will not have time to leave the dough in 10 minutes.

That's right, I once completely forgot about the "yogurt" dough for 40 minutes! I thought - everything was lost) It went up under the very lid!

["Milk Porridge - The content of the multicooker is brought to 98 degrees, and then reduced to 80".]

In the instructions for dex 60 it is written so "Milk Porridge - The content of the multicooker is brought to 98 degrees, and then reduced to 80".

It would be better if it was the other way around: it grew by 80 *, and by the end of the program it had risen to 98, or even 100. Capricious cereals - they just run away at the very beginning. On languor (first 45 *, then 65 *, 85 * and only after these sentries stages comes to a boil) nothing runs anywhere, the cereals are already pacified by the temperature.
Well, at the moment I'm more worried about the proofing process. Apparently, there should be no punctures, and 60 will justify itself.

You know, I sit and bastard ...

After all, still some two or three years ago, could we really have thought about what we would say "And I have this MV for this, this and this, but this one is for this, and the one with the pumpkin is for this pizzicato..."

I'm a bastard myself! A year ago, I wandered into Khlepobechka in search of a vegetable cutter, and looked with square eyes at those who had more than one multi in their profile. Even one for me was "too much", for it is absolutely useless gadget - after all, everything can be perfectly cooked on the stove

worries about the proofing process.

I read as many as 2 pages about proofing. Girls, what, the proofing of the dough above 40 does not happen ??? or is the dough not suitable ???
I am surprised because for 5 years (as long as I have an electric stove) I have been settling the dough in the oven, and there my temperature scale starts from 50 degrees. And ALWAYS the dough is perfect !!! I have never had any dough brewing, or some kind of spoilage ... I am engaged in baking to order, pies are always super!
Maybe I'm really wrong ??? Please explain ... I want to improve.

Svetta, are you putting it in a preheated oven for proofing? Is proving the bulk of the dough or is it already piece products? How long does the process take?

The fact is that the dough has its own volume and temperature. Until the "internal" temperature exceeds a certain threshold, nothing will happen to the dough. But if the same dough is heated completely on these + 45-50 long enough, then the yeast simply dies.

About how much the dough will heat up. We put bread in the oven at a temperature of + 180-190-230 ° C and bake for a long time. The temperature of the finished bread inside is below + 100 ° С!

[Svetta,]

I read as many as 2 pages about proofing.

Svetta, I also did not bother buying scales for a long time. Until LISSS did not insist, they say all the pros with weights, do not be a fool. With the scales, punctures went, then the flour is not so, then the water is not liquid enough. About the scales, by the way. In general, about proofing. There are plenty of info in the tyrnet, just type in a search engine
Proofing dough.
On the site read here

Rinchik,

multicooker-rice cookers ...

Svetta, are you putting it in a preheated oven for proofing? Is proving the bulk of the dough or is it already piece products? How long does the process take?

The fact is that the dough has its own volume and temperature. Until the "internal" temperature exceeds a certain threshold, nothing will happen to the dough. But if the same dough is heated completely on these + 45-50 long enough, then the yeast simply dies.

About how much the dough will heat up. We put bread in the oven at a temperature of + 180-190-230 ° C and bake for a long time. The temperature of the finished bread inside is below + 100 ° С!

Oh, how difficult it is ... Likely the IRR said "... until I bought the scales ..."
I kneaded the dough and put it in the oven, when warmed up, when cold. The dough sits there until it increases 2-3 times. If there is a lot of it, then it sits for a long time, sometimes up to an hour.But I noticed that with a large amount of dough, the oven must be turned on / off perdically, then it is better to rise.
Sometimes I put the already formed pies on a short proofing in the oven, only to start growing.
And Temka went to read about the proofing, thank you IRR.

I understood the hint. Multicooker - drawing cooker ...

Svett, yet HERE

I'll flood here with you myself, then I'll pick it up in one message ...

Well, it turns out that during this time the dough simply does not have time to really warm up. And proofing with kneading at normal temperature takes more than one hour ... plus, a certain enzyme work, it takes time.

Do not throw into the sink with the rest of the dishes

Yes, only on the weekend I discovered that hubby neatly folded all the forks in the sink, teeth down, into this very saucepan. I thought I had enough condrats. Nothing! I looked under a magnifying glass, it seemed like it had gone!

Girls, there is also a difference in the air temperature in the oven and the temperature of the bottom of the multicooker. The dough when proofing in a multicooker, where the temperature is 40^aboutWith and more, it can simply dry out, grab onto, etc. at the bottom. And lactic acid bacteria can die in such "hellish" conditions

Flimsy panasonic bowl in my belt tucked into a slim Perfezka bowl !!! Panas drives !!!

I practically did not breathe on my saucepan, but I constantly make something out of bones - they scratched the bottom with them. Or I can't always put the chicken out of the freezer neatly, I cook the compotes without removing the seeds ... And the "unoriginal bowl for Panas from Brenda" drives it. For the third week I am glad of it.

Girls, please help with the choice of a multicooker. I have a Panasonic18, my daughter is leaving for another city, she needs her own multicooker in the hostel, correspondingly smaller. I bought mine for a long time, now I'm looking at a lot of different ones appeared. What do you advise? I want about the same set of functions, but smaller and cheaper than Panasonic.

[Hairpin]

smaller in volume and dimensions will hardly work. According to the layout of Panasonic, there are inexpensive viscounts ...

and the Brand who Hairpin still using it? It was 3 liters.

Girls, please help with the choice of a multicooker. I have a Panasonic18, my daughter is leaving for another city, she needs her own multicooker in the hostel, correspondingly smaller. I bought mine for a long time, now I'm looking at many different ones. What do you advise? I want about the same set of functions, but smaller and cheaper than Panasonic.

Do not bother with a small cartoon, take it as your Panasonka, she lived in a hostel when she studied, the company was always going to eat, but you can cook a little in 5 liters.

I support Rina about the Viscount and the removal of the technique, the expensive one should not take. Good luck with your choice.

[Irisha]

Len, is the Panasonic not expensive?

: secret: If you take 4-5 liters, then the choice becomes much larger

Irisha, I meant the displacement of Panasik, you shouldn't take him himself, in the hostel his saucepan won't last a month. We must take the cheapest one. If something happens to her, then in a year you can buy a new one.

Yes, probably you can not be small, she will not live alone in the room.
Yes, it's scary that uhaidakayut, so you want something cheaper. On the other hand, taking a very cheap one - the first pot, the girl alone in the city - will not work if everything burns and breaks. There are no problems with Panas'ka.
what then to take in terms of price - quality?
And thank you very much girls for the advice!

Yes, probably you can not be small, she will not live alone in the room.
Yes, it's scary that uhaidakayut, so you want something cheaper. On the other hand, taking a very cheap one - the first pot, the girl alone in the city - will not work if everything burns and breaks. There are no problems with Panas'ka.
what then to take in terms of price-quality ratio?
And thank you very much girls for the advice!

Sveta, three acquaintances of mine took Viscount a year ago, though of the old design, no one ever told me about ...Well, everyone is happy, and the control panel is very similar to Panasonic's, you will consult it by phone, the menu contains just the optimal set of functions. I ran away to cook everything, otherwise my husband will come home from work soon.

[Svetul]

Svetul, about whether or not to be afraid of cheap technology ... Here is a topic on the viscount, we have said more than 50 pages
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=73926.0

ask there directly how reliable the technique is, how quickly the pan is killed, etc.

we have this viscount for the price of a simple clathronic rice cooker (which has only two modes and a mechanical switch).

Thank you girls! I read reviews on Yandex. the Viscount market - very good. And the difference in price with Panasonic is very pleasing.

I'll tell you what else. I considered multicooker for myself as a camp kitchen. Therefore, the external dimensions and weight are very important (even if the car is carrying it all). Well, perhaps, the weight is not so important, but the dimensions ... I came to the conclusion that for travel, life outside the home, etc. ... Well, more pressure cookers, but that's another story.

That is, a vertical case, without protruding control panels.

For a year now, we have been selling Polaris protozoa, white with pink flowers, 5-liter in Auchan. Gave 3 girlfriends to another city last summer. Despite the fact that the lights are often turned off there, and in cartoons they cook, including men of different ages (that is, students, too, who do not bother to take a silicone spoon to interfere with the brew), then Polaris passed the test completely.
We had a price for it from 1700 to 1900 rubles. in different Auchan. Look also.

ABOUT! I didn’t name Polaris because we don’t have him.

Rina, I don't know how happy, but I also saw Polaris in Auchan on Petrovka, about six months ago

Something on Polaris reviews are not unambiguous - many complain that food burns in it. And everyone praises the Visconte, but until I find where to buy from us in Samara, I don’t want to order on the Internet, I’ll try to search.
Thanks again to everyone for the advice !!!!

***
I found Vikusya on the Internet for 1891 rubles. with free shipping I ordered, I'm waiting while I download recipes with features for this particular model - I'm preparing a recipe book for my daughter

Congratulations,

sit now and suffer

Ilona, ​​and what brand did you take? 01 or 02?

model 37502. Why suffer? what is that? Well ... I'll take it to the dacha, and from there I'll return Panasonic to the apartment, if you don't like it ... Why is it wrong with Brands? What to expect Oooh, kill me at work ... I ordered the same to the office, and my friend, looking at me, also took my mother to the DR, lucky to give it on the 24th. Inject, what's wrong with the saucepan?

[Ilonin]

that yo mayo ... I mean that Brand is a good saucepan. And to suffer is like a Buridan donkey (sorry) to choose between 2 armfuls of good hay

shl. missed Ilonin post, sorry

Fuuuh ... relieved! Well, I got scared here ... Thank God - in vain! Indeed, we will write it ourselves, get an answer and again - we suffer)
And the question with the cartoon was solving: Panasonic to the dacha, because it is already tested and tested, and my granny is already screwing in it. And I will test the new device here.

[Someone uses Black Pearl cosmetics, while others exclusively use Yves Saint Laurent, Loreal ... and more expensive brands .. The same is true when choosing a multicooker ..]

After choosing and purchasing a multi, I will also insert my 5 kopecks ...
This is one of the sites where I got a lot of information for myself, both when purchasing HP, and later on a multicooker. When choosing HP, the question did not stand for a long time ... a day later it was clear that it would be Panas, it was only a matter of choosing a model ... But with MV, everything turned out to be much more complicated ... especially since this is the first cartoon in the kitchen ... Someone wrote that it makes no sense to buy Panas, someone strongly recommended it and more expensive models. After much torment, I came to the conclusion ...

Let no one, please, be offended by the comparison written below ..
Someone uses Black Pearl cosmetics, while others exclusively use Yves Saint Laurent, Loreal ... and more expensive brands .. The same is true when choosing a multicooker ......
I repeat again - this is purely MY PERSONAL opinion and let it not offend anyone ... I actually don't use cosmetics, but I didn't choose MV from cheap ones ...
Reason for editing: FOUR the option of highlighting the same text is too ...

And yet .. before choosing a multicooker, I studied the market for spare bowls before buying this device .... and immediately after buying I ordered a couple of additional bowls, because I know in advance ... the purchased item will not stand idle .... I didn't do it in advance with HP and now I regret it very much ... (((

[SOMEONE USES "BLACK PEARL" COSMETICS, AND SOMEONE EXCLUSIVELY YVES SAINT LAURENT, LOREAL, ISA DOROY, CLINICS AND MORE EXPENSIVE BRANDS .. ALSO WHEN CHOOSING A COOKER]

LET NO ONE AT ME, PLEASE DO NOT OFFENSE ABOUT THE BELOW WRITTEN COMPARISON .. SOMEONE USES "BLACK PEARL" COSMETICS, AND SOMEONE EXCLUSIVELY YVES SAINT LAURENT, LOREAL, ISA DOROY, CLINICS AND MORE EXPENSIVE BRANDS .. ALSO WHEN CHOOSING A COOKER.... but MV did not choose from cheap ones ...

* Anyuta *
Such big letters, and so many brands of cosmetics - and most importantly, they forgot to write - what kind of cartoon did they acquire in the end?!?

Of the most expensive, I know only induction Zarushi and the like, have they really grabbed this?
We do not have them on live sale.

I was already struggling with the settings, but for some reason neither the HP model nor the MB is displayed in the avatar ... I am the owner of the PANASONIC SR-TMH 181 HTW Multicooker unit ... maybe for some it is not an expensive unit, but in comparison with the same scarlet for 1,7-2 thousand rubles I consider my "baby" not cheap.

I have already struggled with the settings, but for some reason neither the HP model nor the MB is displayed in the avatar ... I am the owner of the PANASONIC SR-TMH 181 HTW Multicooker unit ...

You can list your vehicle in the profile settings in the "name" column.

I wonder my YUMMI black pearl or Loreal paris. The fact is that when I bought it, it was IVSIN LAURAN, and now GREEN PHARMACY

You can list your vehicle in the profile settings in the "name" column.

There I wrote the name MV - does not display

I wonder my YUMMI black pearl or Loreal paris. The fact is that when I bought it, it was IVSIN LAURAN, and now GREEN PHARMACY

If you read the message to the end, then it says that I actually don't use cosmetics .. maybe the comparison is not very good ... Then you have such an example, someone drives a Kalina, and someone drives a RAV4 .. .. The choice is obvious .... Although both have 4 wheels and they have a capacity for 5 people ... And the crash test gives its results ... But the taste and color .... we are all further know))))

There I wrote the name MV - does not display

In general, I have nothing against Panasonic of this particular model (well, the lid is non-removable, well, the drip tray, well, it happens) to someone even nra. But in Japan, it is not expensive. Something 30 uyov. Our civilized market added the rest along the way.