SmiLena
So you have a D-512 pan? If yes, then you better ask in this thread https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=407526.0
Oktyabrinka
SmiLena Lena I have a simple one with a marble coating D-501 and on the site I saw such a lattice, but did not order, and now I think I should have taken it.
SmiLena
TS06101964, and on which site? Maybe I need it too, very interesting

I found everything, it's interesting for everyone.The miracle of frying pans is suitable, I have not seen her before
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)

Such?
Oktyabrinka
Lena, you found this lattice, but for what it I did not understand.
SmiLena
I found only such information: The grille must be used in the same way as the standard one. This grille is made using a different technology, it is more durable! You cannot put anything in the center, since the products will burn due to the heating of the flame, it is necessary to spread any products for cooking from the edge to the center, leaving an indent so that the products do not burn.
It is necessary to install the grate on the grill-gas pan, put the necessary food on
circle (be sure to cover with a lid!) and cook.
SmiLena
Maybe it is for baking, I have not seen such a grid before and I do not remember that it was discussed in the topic.
SmiLena
TS06101964, and friendship with a frying pan will definitely work out, you just need to adapt to the flame, even my husband fries barbecue on it himself (and he himself very rarely cooks) and now he tells all his friends about the Miracle of grilling
Mirabel
Girls! Does she smoke, this frying pan?
We have it on sale, so I don't have a gas stove. There are thoughts to buy a camping gas burner and sometimes cook on it.
Returning home, I want to buy everything and start learning.
Irina.A
Mirabel, does not smoke, my grandmother baked pies in an old frying pan, a miracle on kerosene gas, the result was excellent
Mirabel
Irina. A, Yes? well super! Fine! Everyone will be stunned at home. when I bring the tourist torch. But fortunately, it is very light and you don't need to ask anyone for help and listen to the whining, well, oh, oh, oh! New nonsense.
francevna
Mirabel, Vika, what is the size of the burner? Will a frying pan fit on it?
Mirabel
Alla, This should fit, right?
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or this one
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alex30169
I will also answer according to the experience of monthly operation of my miracle stainless steel grill gas)):
1 Wings, marinade soy sauce, a little honey and a little ketchup, marinated for half an hour, put on a wire rack, medium heat, did not heat the pan, after 10-12 minutes you can see, they can burn if longer, maybe honey and ketchup are there if they are ok, turned it over and another 7 minutes. Tasty, juicy!) I did the same with the shin, only after turning the fire quieter and a little more time to fry it.
2 Pies from the Universal potato dough, from a batch of 16-17 pieces, dough 40 g each. Made with meat, cheese, cinnamon buns. Everything is as usual, only sprinkled with semolina on top and bottom of the pies, did not smear with an egg, then proofing for 20 minutes, cut parchment with a hole in the middle on the wire rack, 7 pieces fit into the bookmark. Fried on slightly less than medium heat for 5-6 minutes on one side and 4 minutes on the other. It is possible with one, but the bottom without a caller then, although they are baked. Very airy and tasty, even two days later)))
3 Cutlets. Regular cutlets, but no breading. Minced meat, fried onions, bread, salt, pepper. He scattered about 120 grams on the wire rack, the first 5 minutes the fire was at maximum, then at medium, and another 7 minutes, turned it over, held it for another 4-5 minutes. Juicy with a crust turned out.
4 Pizza. The dough is like on pies higher, rolled out 2-3 cm thick, made a hole in the center and gently sipping in different directions formed a donut type, shaped under the lattice. I laid it on parchment with a hole, sauce, filling. Bake over medium heat, min. 12. Everything is ok, just the bottom without a caller.Next time I will try to tint the dough over high heat, turn it over and so on as above.
francevna
Vika, I can't open links from my phone.
I measured the bottom of the pan, diameter 30cm, 25cm straight, and then it rises up.
Mirabel
AllaAre these gas grills the same size?
francevna
Vika, I will not say for sure, I think they are the same.
Mirabel
AllaI also found a burner on Amazon with a grill plate (with holes) with a diameter of 30 cm. I think the grill pan will be there too.
francevna
Vika, is there a gas hole in the center? Give me a link, I'll look from a computer.
Irina.A
Mirabel, maybe an ordinary burner is better, not a plate? I have 3 types of gas grill pans and they all fit well on a small burner
francevna
Irina. A, the pan rests on the small hotplate, but rests on the grates at the bottom. I have a 4-burner gas hob, the frying pan is placed only on the front burner in the center, I have to substitute a magnet, otherwise the pan will slide.
Mirabel
Irina. A, Nah .. I don't need a plate at all. I just thought that if the 30 cm plate was installed, then the grill gas pan should also.
Here's a link
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Alla, you puzzled me ... somehow I did not even think that something might not fit in size.
if it doesn't bother you, could you take a picture of what doesn't fit your size and how everything looks
Something from the descriptions I can not understand and figure out.
I gave the link above. you see, this plate is placed on top of the burner and cannot help the gas grill pan. This is just an example that it is suitable for this burner.
francevna
Vika, here is my gas stove.
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
And this magnet is in front, otherwise the pan moves forward. The bottom of the pan rests not only on the burner grates, but also on the neighboring ones, and there is no such support in front.
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
francevna
Quote: Mirabel
Alla, This should fit, right?
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or this one
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Vika, I looked at the links, the support should fit in size. Find out the size of the burner, it should not be more than 7cm, otherwise the food will burn in the center, less is possible.
Wish you a happy shopping!
m0use
Mom was presented with a marbled frying pan, yesterday tested it on chicken thighs. Neither she nor I had seen the grill gas "live" before, just read ... We marinated the chicken in a mixture of mayonnaise-mustard-soy sauce-spices, for about 30-40 minutes, washed the pan, dried it, as written in the instrument, they greased the bowl with oil, put the chicken on the grate (there was nothing to dry there, put it like that), closed it, put it on medium heat. I counted 25 minutes on the timer, after 10 minutes it smelled deliciously of a fire, at the 15th minute I could not resist, looked in, and there were such beautiful fried pieces! Reduce heat and leave until timer beep. The chicken turned out to be delicious !! Juicy, with a crust! Now you need to try to cook fish, if it's just as tasty, I change my airfryer to grill gas
By the way, which one can be washed in the dishwasher?
Mirabel
AllaWhat an interesting stove you have! first time I see this.
I will ask for a comforts for sale and thanks for the photos and advice!
francevna
Vika. Good luck choosing new assistants. I will wait for the result. Parcels from Amazon take a long time?
Mirabel
Alla, very fast! But we're on vacation now, we gotta go home first
Thank you for your wishes!
Irina.A
So my stove is the most common, inexpensive, there is a square grate, everything is normal
francevna
Irina. AI had a 4 burner gas stove. There were no problems there.
Irina.A
francevna, so I'm talking about her, everything is fine on an ordinary stove, even my grandmother's frying pan bakes normally
Vredina_07
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Due to the fact that in the Ukrainian market, fake grill-gas frying pans of low quality Chinese made in Romanian packaging are massively sold, and many buyers have already suffered from unscrupulous sellers, the manufacturer decided to completely redesign the Grill gas packaging.

Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews)
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Mirabel
Girls! Tell me, are non-stick pans really bad? Or is it still possible to take a chance and buy?
These are the ones we have on sale
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in appearance, do you think it will go?
Niarma
Vika, the coating of the pallet, in my opinion, does not play a role, since it does not come into contact with food. And the inserts in the grill gas with a window are also non-stick.
Mirabel
NiarmaThe inserts are what is put on the pallet from above? Yes, it's the same too. But I got the idea to buy a pizza grid and cut it by diameter.
It seems that the reviews are decent, only dissatisfaction because of the too light weight.
Niarma
Quote: Mirabel
buy a pizza grid and cut to diameter.
How's that ??? I would also like to have a grate ... And what is heavy there - an ordinary tin, only with Teflon
francevna
Mirabel, Vika, I looked at the link, our grill gas is different from this. We have large gas vents below.
Mirabel
Quote: francevna
We have large gas vents below.
and .... is it better or worse? or not at all what you need? : girl_red: Buy it or ...?
I returned from vacation and immediately, rolling up my sleeves, set to work. Namely, we urgently need to buy a grill gas, a burner for it, and I want tagine even hefty, but we will discuss this from another place.
Niarma, I read here in this thread that there are special nets that wash well and I thought that I could underlay such a mesh on top so that the coating does not start peeling off, now I do not remember what material it is.
I myself use this in AF, a very good thing.
francevna
Vika, on this page there is a color photo of the grill gas, compare. everything is visible there.
Mirabel
I see differences, but I just would like to know how they will affect the quality of the final result.
If I have gas. the stove, especially because of 20 euros, would not rack her brains, buy and start experiments. But I'm going to write out a tourist burner
SmiLena
Mirabel, I also think that this is not how the air will circulate there.

Frying pan Miracle Grill-gas (reviews) In ours so, but there it is not clear how
Mirabel
I don't know, girls, how the air will circulate there
There are small holes in 2 different pieces that are put on a pallet, maybe through them
And the descriptions of this frying pan have the same characteristics as yours and people seem to be happy.
Alex100
Mirabelif the non-stick coating is of high quality, the pan will only delight
Washable much better than stainless steel, does not oxidize
I have a non-stick frying pan that has been in operation for half a year, at first they used it every other day, now less often
Well, after all, everything is boring, I want different things
coating like new
Mirabel
Alex100, Thank you so much! I take it! well, like italian, maybe the coverage won't be the worst
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because everything is boring, I want different
Oh yes, and don't say it!
mur_myau
Mirabel,
There is no hole, convection is not so obvious. Maybe it will bake longer? Can you measure the base and order a grid with a hole for this grill gas? It is cheap.

Then kebabs, kebabs, etc. can be made.
And with the grill for the airfryer, if you put it in the pallet, the possibilities increase even more. I immediately thought about bread. What is the height of the lid, I wonder?

It's a pity they don't deliver to the Russian Federation. I did not find this on Ibei.
Stafa
Mirabel, Vika, why do you need a grill gas, you have AF. The dishes are almost identical, but why so much complexity?
Mirabel
Svetlana, Yes? Same dishes? : girl-th: Yes, it seems they say that the smell of smoke is present in the grill gas, downright barbecue in nature.
Well, there are thoughts about what you can take with you to a picnic, although you can't often go to nature.
ElenaThe lid height is small as far as I remember. It's all in that magical store, where there are noodle cutters with a motor, tagines made of different materials and these pans, which I just look at, the number of which does not decrease at all, because no one is looking in their direction, except me.
Stafa
Vika, there is no difference at all in taste. And you can't do much either, there is not so much space on the grate.
mur_myau
Stafa,
There is a hole in the center, meat and fat are slightly scorched, like on a grill. For my taste, and even in appearance, there is a difference.

Mirabel,
I have AF Redber and AF Haan and two grill gases (one with a window).

For a good crust I put up to half a kilogram in one sitting, but not more, otherwise the meat is soft, dull, and you won't see a good crust even at the maximum.
You can even shove a small chicken into Khaan! But I don't see the point, all the same, with a turnover, you have to poke the oven with a thermometer. But the volume of the bowl is two to two and a half times larger than that of the redber.

In the grill gas, 900-1000 g of product is placed on the grate per tab, so the difference is noticeable if there are many eaters.

So I'm not going to give up either AF or grill gas. (By the way, and from the contact grill too, it is ideal for flat pieces).
This is my opinion, I do not impose it in any way.

One thing I can say. With a blocked hole in the center, the same grill effect of cooking on an open fire can be lost. You need a grid with a hole or, at worst, an ordinary round grid (put in).
Mirabel
mur_myau, Lena, thank you! I understood everything. I will buy this frying pan, in extreme cases we will take it for picnics with a gas burner.
and I'll try to get the grate.
mur_myau
Mirabel,
It seems to me that the inner inserts can also be used as molds in the oven.

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