Drinking water purifiers

Better throw a silver coin into a jug of drinking water - it will be more useful!

Silver (in certain quantities) purifies water only from microorganisms. It will not cleanse water from chemicals or oil products.

But! Long-term and uncontrolled intake of bactericidal bacteriostatic substances (silver refers to such), as well as antibiotics, and constant, for years, use of antibacterial soap such as Safeguard (externally, naturally) kills not only harmful bacteria, but also beneficial bacteria in your intestines. In any healthy organism, they multiply in huge quantities in the intestines and die, partly being over-etched, partly going out. But over-etching, they bring us the most valuable vitamins, especially of group B, which are responsible for the nervous and especially the hematopoietic and immune system. In addition, beneficial bacteria of the Escherichia coli group themselves resist dangerous fungi and harmful bacteria such as streptococci, staphylococci, amoebas, etc. With silver dissolved in water and immoderately consumed over a long period, even not very large doses, you are within a certain period (months) you can earn dysbiosis, enterocolitis, anemia, neuropathy, mycoses (fungal diseases such as thrush), furunculosis.

However, if you put a spoon or a coin in water, you will not get much harm. As well as the benefits. The silver concentration will be scanty.

Silver (in certain quantities) purifies water only from microorganisms. It will not cleanse water from chemicals or oil products.
However, if you put a spoon or a coin in water, you will not get much harm. As well as the benefits. The silver concentration will be scanty.

Not to mention the fact that industrial silver contains far from harmless impurities.

what is your profession? if it's not a secret, of course

I have about 15-20 professions.

Not to mention the fact that industrial silver contains far from harmless impurities.

Cadmium, copper and other highly toxic impurities of heavy metals in technical alloys based on silver are not allowed in cutlery and coins.

Can anyone say about the quality of ATOLL filters, but Russian, not American? For the third month I have been looking after myself a filtration system (for an apartment). I want "reverse osmosis" under the sink for drinking and a couple of pre-filters in the riser: from sand and other debris, and a cartridge in front of the washing machine.

I have about 15-20 professions.

and I was not even surprised! so many only a really versatile specialist can know !!!

Can anyone say about the quality of ATOLL filters, but Russian, not American? For the third month I have been looking after myself a filtration system (for an apartment). I want "reverse osmosis" under the sink for drinking and a couple of pre-filters in the riser: from sand and other debris, and a cartridge in front of the washing machine.

My parents have had ATOLL for more than 2 years. Only joyful emotions. But the production seems to be American.

I will ask again the question about structurators for osmosis. Which structurators does it make sense to trust? Which company? Where to get? How to check if it works? Because there are cartridges with Grander's water, but where is the guarantee that it contains Grander's water and how it works is still not clear. There are Grander devices that are very expensive, and again not for osmosis and it is not known on what principle they work (everything is shrouded in mystery). There are cartridges with bioceramics, they say that this is a structurator. Who can advise what.

P / S There is also coral water.

I will ask again the question about structurators for osmosis? Which structurators does it make sense to trust? Which company? Where to get? How to check if it works? Because there are cartridges with Grander's water, but where is the guarantee that it contains Grander's water and how it works is still not clear. There are Grander devices that are very expensive. And again, not for osmosis and it is not known on what principle they work. Everything is shrouded in mystery. There are cartridges with bioceramics, they say that this is a structurator. Who can advise what.
P / S There is also coral water.

IMHO
after the osmotic filter, the water needs to be slightly mineralized, and if you also structure the water, it will be just great.
For mineralization, stones with a slow release of elements (more often silicon and calcium) are suitable - shungite (shungite), zeolites, natural silicon, shale, sea calcium. But this is not a dogma.

Pet, your hands are growing from the right place! What purchases? You take the case from the old filter, throw out the filling, fall asleep with whatever you want (only first you need to rinse everything well in colo-slag), close it, displace the air from it, and connect it to the system.
The mineralizer-structurator is connected after the osmotic filter and up to the very last filter (which, like, removes pieces of rubber from the storage). And before or after the drive - for personal taste.
Shungite is sold in bags. I bought 3 kg for 300 rubles. Probably cheaper.
Marine calcium is a good thing. But only 1 type of coral is useful. And apart from the expensive powder for pouring into a jug, I have not met anything. Poor Japanese replace it with sea shells.

Shungite is sold in bags. I bought 3 kg for 300 rubles. Probably cheaper.

I have already read about shungite on your tip. Things are good. But I just don't understand where to ask him. Whether in pharmacies, or in cosmetic stores, or maybe where else? Just in online stores with an order of $ 2 (I saw packaging of 0.5 kg), no one will bother.
We have plenty of radioactive rubble. In our city, uranium is mined, maybe someone needs it for their beloved mother-in-law. I change 2 buckets of rubble for 1 kg of shungite. JOKE !!!

I have already read about shungite on your tip. Things are good. But I just don't understand where to ask him. Whether in pharmacies, or in cosmetic stores, or maybe where else? Just in online stores with an order of $ 2 (I saw packaging of 0.5 kg), no one will bother.
We have plenty of radioactive rubble. In our city, uranium is mined, maybe someone needs it for their beloved mother-in-law. I change 2 buckets of rubble for 1 kg of shungite. JOKE !!!

So uranium is in Zhovtye Vody, and not in Kirovograd.
And shungite can be found in the same place where filters are sold, as well as where all sorts of Chizhevsky chandeliers and similar fir oils.

So uranium is in Zhovtyh Vody, and not in Kirovograd.

There it is enriched, and mined throughout the Kirovograd region, including Kirovograd itself. From memory three mines within the city and one open pit. Well at least they work intermittently. Extraction is also carried out in Cherkassy in the Vinnitsa and Dnepropetrovsk regions. And probably in other regions. also.

And shungite can be found in the same place where filters are sold, as well as where all sorts of Chizhevsky chandeliers and similar fir oils.

Thanks for the tip. We have enough of this kind. I will definitely look.

One more question along the way. The last step in my filter is an ultraviolet lamp. It stands in front of the tap and is a valve from bacteria (so that they do not get into the tank with purified water). Does such a lamp affect the structure of water? If yes, then the structurator must be placed after all the lamps, in front of the tap itself. But then a pathogenic bacterium can start in the structurator itself. Standing for a long time, such water becomes dangerous. And tada everything, goodbye forum Please correct me where I am wrong.

One more question along the way.

And what can be the reverse flow of pure water? Otherwise, how can bacteria theoretically get into a container with purified water?
I would put shungite after UV.

And you can search among distributors, we have at least 3 of them in our city. They buy goods in Karelia with their own people, then they resell them through advertisements or through hardware stores.

In order for bacteria to multiply, they need a breeding ground and favorable conditions. If the water is purified and treated with ultraviolet light, then there are no nutrients for bacteria and there are almost no bacteria themselves.
And they try to use shungite for structuring water, that is, "building" a certain molecular structure of water. True, I do not know (or rather, I have not met) scientific studies that directly, objectively prove the effect of shungite on the structure of water and the beneficial effect of just such a "shungite" ... "shungan" ... "shunganut" ... Nevermind; water for human health or a cat there.
With other substances - such studies have been proven - the structure of water changes.

In order for bacteria to multiply, they need a breeding ground and favorable conditions. If the water is purified and treated with ultraviolet light, then there are no nutrients for bacteria and there are almost no bacteria themselves.

I don't understand something, probably in microbiology. It's like ALMOST not?
In one direction there is a stream of water, from which everything except Н2О is removed by molecular filters. How do bacteria spontaneously originate here?

I don’t undertake to prove the effect of shungite on the structure of water by objective methods.

I don't understand something, probably in microbiology. It's like ALMOST not?
In one direction there is a stream of water, from which everything except Н2О is removed by molecular filters. How do bacteria spontaneously originate here?

I don’t undertake to prove the effect of shungite on the structure of water by objective methods.

Of course, the correct membrane will not even let a salt molecule pass. But the exit system is not 100% sealed. Is water not sealed in polyethylene? Of course, some bacteria, viruses, spores can get through the air. For this, they put ultraviolet light to create a barrier at the exit. But water is a filter for ultraviolet radiation. Therefore, something there theoretically may well survive.

Can anyone say about the quality of ATOLL filters, but Russian, not American? For the third month I have been looking after myself a filtration system (for an apartment). I want "reverse osmosis" under the sink for drinking and a couple of pre-filters in the riser: from sand and other debris, and a cartridge in front of the washing machine.

Reverse osmosis costs six months, it works fine. Although the membrane is American.
Preliminary - is it mechanical cleaning? This is their "spherical" stainless steel, or what? I think it's better to take either plastic or stainless steel for 10-inch cartridges.

However, if you put a spoon or a coin in water, you will not get much harm. As well as the benefits. The silver concentration will be scanty.

Yah? But what about the effect of microdoses on the structure of water? No, recognizing that the structure of the water changes from a careless sneeze, one cannot fall back on materialistic positions and measure the concentration of this sneeze

Ultrasonic cleaners ("washing machines") have been and are being applied in microelectronics, dentistry and other industries for a long time, a couple of decades. The fact that a household gadget appeared is ONLY due to the reduction in the cost of components to the limit, including thanks to the Chinese. Not any "new discovery." It is not new. But really, it may well work.

As for the purity of ultrasonic washing itself, WASHING itself in general, as a PROCESS, often includes soaking, washing itself as a hydromechanical, chemical and thermal effect on fabric and dirt, as well as rinsing processes - that is, removing dirt by diluting a washing solution - (mud suspension) in water and partial replacement of clean water.

You need to understand that ultrasonic "washing machines" provide ONLY hydromechanical action, to a small extent chemical, and to a certain extent microthermal, but they cannot rinse. Wash, they wipe. But you need to remove dirt with the same rinse.

Ultrasonic dental baths - about 100 W per 1.5 L
Retona - up to 25 watts per 10 liters.
The difference is 50 times.

And the "recommended turning over" for a 6-hour wash cycle with modern powders will wash even without retona.

Of course, the correct membrane will not even let a salt molecule pass. But the exit system is not 100% sealed. Is water not sealed in polyethylene? Of course, some bacteria, viruses, spores can get through the air.

How is it not sealed? What, somewhere undermines? Excessive pressure in the system and no air enters.
But someone can live in a tank. But what this "someone" is eating there is a mystery to me.

But someone can live in a tank. But what this "someone" is eating there is a mystery to me.

100% lives. You can not even doubt. A friend of mine changed the tank after 1 year of operation. I disassembled the membrane, and on it a slimy plaque, which is a product of the vital activity of bacteria.
And what is it to eat there, is really incomprehensible. It can be assumed that gnawing the rubber membrane but on big holidays

100% lives. You can not even doubt. A friend of mine changed the tank after 1 year of operation. I disassembled the membrane, and on it a slimy plaque, which is a product of the vital activity of bacteria.
And what is it to eat there, is really incomprehensible.

And here is the complete coincidence of theory and practice.

I return to the topic with shungite again. My order arrived yesterday. I will move on to the practical part. Rummaged through a lot of information about shungite. I read that after a while you can boil it and rinse it in a solution of soda or acetic acid, after which it restores its original properties. Although there probably is no sense in this either, since there is nothing to sorb from purified water. In short, the expiration date of such a filler is of interest. And further...
The finer the shungite fraction, the higher its properties. Which fraction is better to use for filling the osmosis cartridge?
Maybe it makes sense to poke shungite with a hammer? What are the opinions

And they try to use shungite for structuring water, that is, "building up" a certain molecular structure of water. True, I do not know (or rather, I have not met) scientific studies that directly, objectively prove the effect of shungite on the structure of water and the beneficial effect of just such a "shungite" ... "shungan" ... "shunganut" ... Nevermind; water on human health or a cat there.
With other substances - such studies have been proven - the structure of water changes.

And with what substances? Where can I read about it?

I return to the topic with shungite again. My order arrived yesterday. I will move on to the practical part. Rummaged through a lot of information about shungite. I read that after a while you can boil it and rinse it in a solution of soda or acetic acid, after which it restores its original properties. Although there probably is no sense in this either, since there is nothing to sorb from purified water. In short, the expiration date of such a filler is of interest. And further...
The finer the shungite fraction, the higher its properties. Which fraction is better to use for filling the osmosis cartridge?
Maybe it makes sense to poke shungite with a hammer? What are the opinions

I'm talking about my experience, about a year.
I have a fraction from 3 to 9 mm. Probably, it can be smaller, the current will have to be washed from dust for a long time. I did not boil and did not poison with acids. I think this is superfluous. I focus on the taste of water.
It seems to me: after clean and fresh shungite, the water has a sweetish taste and smells a little of rubber.When this disappears, I shake out the shungite in a colander, and thoroughly grind it in a stream of cold running water with my hands. I wash it a little. And back to the filter.
There is really nothing to sorb from the water after reverse osmosis. Here the task of shungite is to ennoble the structure of water (one must only believe in this, it cannot be measured quantitatively), and to give furelene to the water (this is described in the literature).

Need advice. We have osmosis .. filters were changed and the pressure was completely gone. Who can say what? The direction of the filters has already been checked a hundred times. But for some reason there is absolutely no pressure .. the water is barely flowing ..

Rum ... not ... something else. On the water tank, we saw a hole similar to the air inlet on bicycle tubes. We think to try to pump it up with a pump. The fact is that before, when the tap was opened, there was a gurgling sound. Now - no. It feels like there is no pressure in this tank.

Nobody will give a definite answer here. Try to check step by step from coarse filters to post filters.

we have this

so there is a valve on the tank .. I'm talking - like on bicycle cameras. Could it be that you need to pump air there?

It may very well be

This is a large tank for storing water, not for pumping air.

yes, I know .. but we didn’t climb - and in the circuits this tank has an “air cushion” .. that is, air to create pressure .. water from this tank will not flow by gravity under high pressure. It goes weakly through all the filters .. and if you open the tap, then the pressure must come from somewhere ...
And second - for some reason this was done .. And yet - my husband was pouring water from the tank ..
Rum .. you may still have pressure there .. so the master did not climb

Do not be afraid. You won't break anything. This is an ordinary accumulator. And if there is a leak in the spool, then of course you will have to pump up. But if there is a leak in the membrane of the accumulator itself, then unfortunately it (the membrane) cannot be replaced in this type of accumulator. But if the membrane is leaking, then when pumping you will hear the gurgling of water inside the tank. Pump up a little and check to see if it will affect the water pressure in the tap. If not, then it's not the tank. And further. Is the pressure always bad or is it running out quickly? Maybe your tank is just closed? Check it out.

today we just don't have a pump)))) tomorrow we'll take it and experiment with it. And the pressure is constantly weak all the time .. as if just water goes through the filters ..

Korata, there are 2 things to figure out:
- pressure in the water supply system (each filter is designed for a certain range) if the pressure is weak, then the filter does not work well,
- check the water pressure in front of the accumulator-accumulator (disconnect the pipe going to it) there is the amount of water flowing
from the filter is small, but the head MUST BE. If there is no water pressure, there are problems with the filter, if there is a pressure up to the accumulator, and when you open the tap on the sink (drinking water comes from the water supply), an almost normal stream goes for a second, and then just barely - you need to pump air through the nipple.
Good luck!

and I just bought a filter like a kettle, it has a replaceable filter suitable for 300 liters of water, called Brita? very convenient water is filtered and at the same time settled, just what is needed for my little child, already saving on baby water

Looks like I took a picture of my filters for a reason. Recently they just changed. They are enough for one year.
Filters we have Aquaphor Viking. We have 5 of them in our apartment. They clean water perfectly, even to a drinking state.
This is how they look in everyday life:
Sorry for the mess. The apartment is new - renovation is still underway.

This is a hot water filter (it became so after a year of use):

The cold filter didn't look much better.

It's a pity there is no photo of the new filter. I forgot to take a photo. But he's perfectly white

Yes, I almost forgot to say. We also have coarse filters throughout the house. And in our apartment too. Tin, not water

Well, very visual. I believe, because after replacing the filters I have the same color: wow:

Right now you will see the photos and you will be horrified and say that this cannot be.
I didn’t believe it for a long time either, I went to the presentations of different filters, looked carefully, and said to myself - well, I have completely different water, and then I buy bottled water for drinking and cooking, it is clean.

And then one day I nevertheless let people in with a water tester and to make electrolysis of water in my house, in my dishes, from my tap.

Immediately I took pictures of myself for a long, "kind" memory of Moscow drinking water, which we are advised not to be afraid to drink directly from the tap.

I will only explain that the electrolysis was carried out on two samples of water - the left one in the photo is water from the tap, the right one is clear transparent in all the photos, this is water passed through the Zepter filter.

So the show begins. Sorry for the quality of the pictures, today I took photos from early photos.

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I will only add a comment to photos 5 and 6.

In photo 5, tap water after electrolysis, on top of the foam is yellow-brown-green, with some kind of oily bloom. The water analysis was done in jars for yogurt, and so the edge of the jar was never washed of this paint, so the yellow spot remained for a long time.

In photo 6, the same water 2 hours after the analysis, below the sediment in the form of small grains is visible, as if semolina were poured onto the bottom (dark strip). Jars with clean water obtained after the Zepter filter are everywhere. Clear water. And you can drink.

And I would like you to drink water from another jar, or make lunch from this water.
But this is the kind of water that Muscovites drink, and not only. Process water is coming from the tap.
We did such a water analysis at my work, and people brought water from home, the result is the same.

Now let's talk about the "lure" of me by the Zepter firm ?!

Well, I think it's not about the Zepter, but just a good filter

The water looks awful. Brewed coffee, no more, no less

And you can't drink water from the tap at all. We did an analysis all over the house. So the water, as you said, is technical. Now they want extra in the house. put filters. After that, I want to do a water analysis in my apartment, in the same way as you.

And at the moment, tap water (without filtration) in our house looks like this:





What is it for? People, do not skimp on filters!

Do you think we have not chlorinated?

In a word, for those who do not see: The quality of water in terms of sanitary and chemical indicators does not meet the requirements of SanPiN. There is an excess of iron.
And in another document does not correspond to the content of petroleum products
The house is new.

I'll also buy TDS.

I read about the filters, it's bad that the water is in the tap. But you only bathe in the bath, brush your teeth not in the kitchen, do you?
And the filter only partially protects us.
And the price for Zepter really bites - $ 1000, a lot.
It's a shame they don't hold any promotions or discounts.

Right now you will see the photos and you will be horrified and say that this cannot be.

Yes, impressive. Thank you. Of course, I knew that the water from the tap was bad, but what is it ... It's good that we have been using the filter for several years.

We have a reverse osmosis filter from Atoll. Plus two filters for mechanical cleaning at the entrance. Water tastes like rainwater. There have only been reviews from community hygiene professionals that such water can be harmful, since almost all salts are removed. I really like her taste. There is no sediment at all.

Almost without salts, water from reverse osmosis filters will not be harmful: if you eat at least 200 grams of fresh (without heat treatment) fruits, vegetables and herbs every day. The body will pick up the missing micro and macro elements from them.

If you are on friendly terms with your hands, the old filter housing is pre. cleaning, you can fill it with useful stones (shungite, zeolites, silicon, shale, sea calcium ...) and connect it (after washing) to the filter outlet (before or after the storage tank) and enjoy tasty, healthy, HAND-MADE WATER.

A classmate bought a sophisticated filter from me for 600 euros. And something began to seem to her that the water was foaming too much. She invited another of our classmates - an ecologist. He made measurements and it turned out that after this filter, alkali is obtained.

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but specify what kind of filter? so as not to burn yourself

this water can be harmful as almost all salts are removed. I really like her taste.

You can drink water as a drink (as an option) mineral water (it is better to select it on the advice of a doctor), and from your purified water you can cook soups / borscht, etc.

You can drink water as a drink (as an option) mineral water (it is better to select it on the advice of a doctor), and from your purified water you can cook soups / borscht, etc.

The water should be zero, without any impurities. It is not for nothing that the purest melt water is appreciated.
Uncle Sam rightly said, vitamins need to be replenished with quality nutrition, there are more benefits.
85% of the pure water received by the body (water, not compote) goes to the formation of fluid for washing the brain, the rest to tissues. This is no longer a secret.