Sedne
Which stove is more beautiful black or white?
sazalexter
Sedne, Svetlana, usually match the color of the rest of the technique
Sedne
Alexander, haha, my basic technique is metallic.
Galina2016
She has a metallic lid

They brought me my beauty! Now I will unpack, wash and OVEN With the result I will appear in another topic. Thank you all for your advice and moral support!

Bread maker Brand 3801 - description, characteristics, operation

Sedne
They also brought me already, put French bread according to the MariV recipe, Panasika is louder, of course, but it doesn't annoy me, I'm generally calm about noises, except for the noise of repair
fffuntic
and I wanted white, but there were only black ones. I'm not black in any way, Panasik is white, the whole kitchen is bright. But I didn't have enough patience to wait for another, and now the firebrand is visible from afar and it is more talkative than all the rest of my equipment.

Congratulations on your purchase, let it please you for a long time
Sedne
fffuntic, thanks, I bought a black one, it is most suitable for the kitchen and Panasonic black metallic (the top is black and the body is metallic) And the brand, on the contrary, has a black body, and the top is metallic
Galina2016
Quote: fffuntic
Congratulations on your purchase, let it please you for a long time
Thank you! We will try! The gingerbread man has already tortured me with her attention - I went to touch the cat's belly, so he bit me ... it's good that the gingerbread man doesn't bite

Sedne, congratulations on your purchase! Let it serve for a long time and fulfill the tasks assigned to it! And the noise of the kneading does not bother me, but the signal for additives could be quieter, if set for the night with a delay, it will probably wake up.
Sedne
Galina, I also congratulate you on hp, I also got the bun too, but this is always the case with new equipment
Sedne
I have already prepared French bread, the roof has fallen and the bread with sourdough has fallen, so it did not come out badly for 1 time, but it stood, I set it for 3 hours, 1.5-2 hours is enough for my sourdough, it cracked a little and the crust came out dense.
Sedne
Girls, who have this xn, on my ribs (this is where such bulges are) of the bowl, the coating on both sides is peeling off already, but nothing has passed since my purchase, is this such a good quality bowl from Brand or was I so lucky? I have Panasonic for a year, nothing peels off, there are small traces of salt, sugar only, and for Brand for a couple of months I only used it only 5-6 times. And what to change the bowls every 2 months? On the Brand website, they stand half a stove.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Sedne

Girls, who have this xn, on my ribs (this is where such bulges are) of the bowl, the coating on both sides is peeling off already, but nothing has passed since my purchase, is this such a good quality bowl from Brand or was I so lucky? I have Panasonic for a year, nothing peels off, there are small traces of salt, sugar only, and for Brand for a couple of months I only used it only 5-6 times. And what to change the bowls every 2 months? On the Brand website, they stand half a stove.
We HP Brand bought last year on March 8th. At work, I have it every other day. There is absolutely no damage on the inside of the bucket. Nothing peeled off, and there are not even minor scratches. In your case, I think, just a manufacturing defect, or improper operation (the coating does not tolerate contrasting temperatures)
Sedne
Quote: ANGELINA BLACKmore
or improper operation
I would agree whether it is a multicooker bowl or a baking dish, but how can the hp bowl be misused? Do not pour boiling water into it and put it in the freezer.
Galina2016
Quote: Sedne

Girls, who have this xn, on my ribs (this is where such bulges are) of the bowl, the coating on both sides is peeling off already, but nothing has passed since my purchase, is this such a good quality bowl from Brand or was I so lucky? I have Panasonic for a year, nothing peels off, there are small traces of salt, sugar only, and for Brand for a couple of months I only used it only 5-6 times. And what to change the bowls every 2 months? On the Brand website, they stand half a stove.
I sympathize with you, we bought stoves in one day, I look at the forum - March 25. A little over two weeks have passed ...She looked at hers now, everything is fine. One scratch is small, but nothing will come off. Refer to the manufacturer's website, there must be some kind of warranty period.
Sedne
Galina, yes, I was upset with words, I even wanted to throw hp out of the window. I think I have not used anything at all, maybe not even 5 times, I also have a dough mixer and other hp. Ira told me that they complained about the bucket cover, but I didn't think that she would come out of standing so quickly. I myself was surprised that the bucket had peeled off straight on the ribs, on one side it was strong, on the other it began to peel off a little. I am a Panasonic 2-3, and sometimes I started up 4 days a week and everything is fine for a year and 2 months already.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Sedne
Do not pour boiling water into it and put it in the freezer.
And some manage to carry the bucket into the sink right away, as they dumped hot bread ... And the water from the tap does not immediately flow boiling water, like the bowl itself.
Sedne
Nobody knows in NEC (I bought cups for mv from them, I liked it) restore the cover of the HP bucket? And if they restore how is its quality (coating)? I don't want to buy a new Brandov bucket, for 2,700 for 2 weeks (it turns out I have a stove for 2 weeks in total) - this is too much for me.
ksenia_br
Quote: Sedne
I don't want to buy a new Brand's bucket

Good day!
Contact the master of our service center, if this is a marriage, then you will be replaced with a new bowl free of charge
Sedne
ksenia_br, Ksenia, good afternoon, but how is it possible to contact the master?
ksenia_br
Sedne, I will send you a personal message his contacts for communication
Sedne
My scales stopped turning on, I didn’t drop them, and to be honest, I turned everything on a couple of times, I used other scales, but I just checked these, and today I tried to turn it on and silence.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Svetlana, the battery may have died.
fffuntic
Quote: Sedne

My scales stopped turning on, I didn’t drop them, and to be honest, I turned everything on a couple of times, I used other scales, but I just checked these, and today I tried to turn it on and silence.
Sveta, how did your bucket epic end?
I sympathize with you. When I bought my brandyushka, I took the last one from the window and so far everything is fine. You're out of luck. I would like to hope that only with a bucket.
And the battery really breaks down quickly, even bought again on any scales for some reason. I have other scales, I bought for Panasonic earlier, the same story is also the same.
But they also start lying before the battery goes out.
Sedne
fffuntic, I haven’t bought a battery yet, we don’t have it in the nearest stores, but we don’t have time to go for it specially.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: fffuntic
But they also start lying before the battery goes out.

There it is ... ... And I still think, what I have after pressing the "on" button instead of one zero in the measurement of grams, 4 zeros appear (and the letter is correct g). I turn it off again, start it again when 4 eights appear, then by pressing "on" again I set the new unit of measurement to "grams" and only then one zero appears. So it's time to change the battery too. But she has been plowing from the date of purchase - this is 14 months, moreover, she does it every day, more than once.
Sedne
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But she has been plowing from the date of purchase - this is 14 months
Just about and I just bought HP, then one with her, then another. No luck just with a new toy.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Shine, well, don't be upset. Replace the parts and she will plow like your sweetheart. And did you contact local service providers (they seemed to give you coordinates)?
Sedne
Girls, I'm starting to be friends with this hp, but there is a big problem, the bread is fried to the spatula from below, it is very difficult to get it, although I let it stand in shape, and when it does fly out. then a piece of bread breaks out straight, of course you can take out the spatula and so on, but sometimes you want to put bread at night or keep track of the time when you take out the spatula, is there a secret of how to solve this problem?
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Shine, try to lubricate the spatula with a universal non-stick lubricant (there is a recipe somewhere on the site)
Sedne
Natasha, and this grease while kneading will not be absorbed into the dough and the spatula and the dough will stick again?
ANGELINA BLACKmore
I think it will be fine. I like this lubricant in general. I already didn’t do without it))) At first I did it with ghee (homemade), and then I began to do it with melted lard (also its own heating). Great stuff.
Tiyu
Hello, cookies! As, probably, many sit with a "broken" head. When comparing the characteristics of the bread makers, I liked Brand (I love the Brand multicooker dearly), but the reviews about its fragility and a large percentage of defects were alarmed. I understand that well-known brands can also have breakdowns. Please comment on the build quality and service life.
MariV
Tiyu, it's like a lottery - lucky or not.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Tiyu, HP Brand itself is wonderful. I like EVERYTHING about her !!! BUT .... apparently as someone is lucky with the product. My bucket is out of order (it served a little over a year) The pin on which the mixer is put on fell out. All the elastic fell apart there. And now I'm dusting off the stove. I wiggle my hands and cry that I got the unit so badly. At the office. The buckets are expensive on the website (delivery will cost me more than 3 thousand). So think for yourself, decide for yourself - TO HAVE or NOT TO HAVE, as was sung in the movie.
Tiyu
ANGELina BLACKmor, thanks, so I think-uuuuuuuu ...
The possibility of manual programming is declared by Gorenie and Binaton ... Maybe I shouldn't have gotten hung up on control?


Added on Friday 07 Oct 2016 12:47 PM

MariV, thanks, em YES. Already, perhaps, think about another option? Well, you know how it will bond ...
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Tiyu
Maybe I shouldn't have been fixated on management?
Personally, I need manual control over the cut - I'm doing sourdough bread. And other CPs cannot create conditions for me to work with such bread, due to the lack of specials. programs.
Tiyu
ANGELina BLACKmore, for the same reason I am exploring ovens with a manual mode, Brand has good opportunities, but it's not cheap, the girls write that you can adapt to any, but this is again dancing with all musical instruments.
And if you give your stove to craftsmen?
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Tiyu
And if you give your stove to craftsmen?
So far we have not found such. I asked my sister, who lives in Moscow, to order at the office. website bucket (and what to do, do not throw out the same HP) At least I'll save on delivery.
Sedne
Girls and boys, can you tell me which stirrer can fit our bread maker? Maybe you know, because someone has 2-3 bread machines, I would like to buy it simply.
Paste
I have a brand bread maker covered with a copper basin. Didn't last long. I didn't use it often. They refuse to repair it; most of the repair centers do not have spare parts. And the brand, the only service in the whole city that takes up warranty maintenance of equipment, repairs only under warranty, but refuses to do repairs for money. Therefore, I do not recommend it for further purchase, although I liked the bread maker.
If someone needs something, then I have a bucket with a stirrer, and I bought a spare stirrer, which I never used.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
I did not throw away my HP. The husband inserted into the bucket another, not his own, oil seal, though not heat-resistant. And now my HP is not HP, but a mixer))) I already stopped getting upset. She, my dear, has been faithfully kneading bread, minced meat and God knows what else for me until now)) Recently, here on the site, I also read that it can still be used as an oven, only with a different mold - cover the trailing device at the bottom there is any metal cup or mold of a suitable size (I adapted a corrugated cupcake mold) And now I am again happy with my aggregation in full)) The only thing is that I bake bread in a multicooker.
Paste
My ten burned out. Nobody does repairs. I will definitely not buy this one because of problems with the repair.
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: Pastila
I will definitely not buy this one because of problems with the repair.
Well, this is clear, like a white day))
I already insured myself, bought myself a KitFort mixer for mixing.

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