Verina Natalia
As far as I understand, the difference between programs is only in time. Temperature and pressure (according to the laws of thermodynamics) must be constant for the valve to operate to block, and the excess pressure is simply bleed off. Therefore, I concluded that the difference is only in the cooking time.
I didn't cook pasta in it, so I can't say anything.
Alenka212
It's sad, but she's not a multicooker at all! Multicooker recipes don't work with her. I baked the pie both on soup (as in all recipes) and on meat (it's easier to catch up to 50 minutes from 20 minutes). The result is almost the same. I cooked the horns in it: I fell asleep, filled it with hot water, so that they would cover themselves with rice with a closed valve. I also tried spaghetti.
mnatchka
Quote: Verina Natalia

As far as I understand, the difference between programs is only in time. Temperature and pressure (according to the laws of thermodynamics) must be constant for the valve to operate to block, and the excess pressure is simply bleed off. Therefore, I concluded that the difference is only in the cooking time.

If so, then it's sad ((, and it's not entirely clear why then different modes, if the only question is to set the time (but you still have to adjust it manually
And again, it is not clear why they write in a book with recipes: choose a mode such and such, set the temperature to such and such.
Alenka212
You are not the first one to ask this question! I bought it too. And dozens more. Sales from the manufacturer are in full swing. And we just have to either adapt and love our cooker, or buy her a multicooker for her girlfriend. You can cook a lot in it, only the quality of the dishes will vary. It's more convenient to take a pressure cooker to the dacha or on a trip, since you can quickly cook lunch and dinner. Also put the porridge in the morning.
Verina Natalia
Quote: Alyonka212

You are not the first one to ask this question! I bought it too. And dozens more. Sales from the manufacturer are in full swing. And we just have to either adapt and love our cooker, or buy her a multicooker for her girlfriend. You can cook a lot in it, only the quality of the dishes will vary. It's more convenient to take a pressure cooker to the dacha or on a trip, since you can quickly cook lunch and dinner. Also put the porridge in the morning.
I had several multi-cookers before the time, but with the advent of Radichka, they moved to those pens where they would be in demand, where the hostesses have more time to dance around them. Everything is simple here: loaded, closed, in half an hour (maximum) even meat is ready. Fast, tasty, healthy.
I didn't understand the quality of the dishes. From the fact that they are cooked in a fast food, the quality definitely does not suffer. IMHO.
Again, it is not clear - why not a multicooker? Turn the lever on the lid and cook like in a multicooker. Or is the time not stamped in two modes?
Alenka212
Quote: Verina Natalia

Everything is simple here: loaded, closed, in half an hour (maximum) even meat is ready. Fast, tasty, healthy.
I didn't understand the quality of the dishes. From the fact that they are cooked in a fast food, the quality definitely does not suffer. IMHO.
Again, it is not clear - why not a multicooker? Turn the lever on the lid and cook like in a multicooker. Or is the time not stamped in two modes?

I didn't even think to belittle the dignity of the pressure cooker. For busy women, the right machine. It is unlikely that you can cook pilaf in a multicooker for dinner in 25 minutes, like ours. The quality of the prepared food has been written about more than once. I'm not saying it's worse in a pressure cooker. It's just that the technology of cooking in a multicooker is different.I doubt that in a pressure cooker you can simmer porridge for 2 hours or simmer for 40 minutes with an open valve. The temperature is different.
mnatchka
Quote: Alyonka212

I didn't even think to belittle the dignity of the pressure cooker. For busy women, the right machine. It is unlikely that you can cook pilaf in a multicooker for dinner in 25 minutes, like ours. The quality of the prepared food has been written about more than once. I'm not saying it's worse in a pressure cooker. It's just that the technology of cooking in a multicooker is different. I doubt that in a pressure cooker you can simmer porridge for 2 hours or simmer for 40 minutes with an open valve. The temperature is different.
a By the way - I did not find an indication of the cooking temperature and the keeping temperature. Here on a forum I saw somewhere that the cooking temperature is 100-120, and keeping warm can probably be used to simmer porridge (though I haven't tried it yet). But about stewing - yesterday I tried to make potatoes with mushrooms from a book with recipes, although the portion of potatoes was not 600 grams, but about one and a half times more. and at the end I added grated cheese. And the time had to be increased almost twice. After cooking, I forgot to turn it off, and the rest of the cooked (about half) remained in the keep warm mode, for about an hour and a half to two, with the lid open. After that, the potatoes turned brown)) And before that it was like stewed, but a little thicker.

In general, I don't quite succeed with the recipes from the book - I always have to add cooking time
Alenka212
There is a lot of information about the temperature regimes of multicooker, but there is complete silence about the temperatures of pressure cookers.
mnatchka
Girls, tell me: the instructions say that when cooking in pressure cooker mode, there should be at least 2 glasses of liquid inside. But I look at your recipes, as well as on other sites, - a common trick. Onion (vegetable) pillow, lightly fried with the lid open, with very little liquid. then meat on top, in the "meat" mode with the valve closed. Will there really be no problems? Now I put the pork in a piece on the onion pillow. At first she "snorted" strongly, now she has calmed down, a little rustles. This is normal?
Alenka212
With me, it strives to block even with an open valve with a small amount of liquid. If you don't want a lot of liquid, I try to close the valve and cook with a small amount: I tried to cook meatballs with 2 tablespoons of tomato paste and 3 tbsp. spoons of sour cream. The pressure built up. If there is very little liquid and the valve is open, it can burn.
Alenka212
hedgehog77, before setting the delayed start, it is necessary to control exactly when the valve is in the closed position. I have it blocked if the nose of the valve is on the letter P in the word "closed".
Here is a very useful infa from the site about this model.
The delayed start button works exactly like a delayed start! This means that after the set time, the pressure cooker WILL START the cooking process, which consists of three stages: pressurizing, cooking, releasing the pressure. So, in order to get, for example, buckwheat porridge by 8 in the morning, you must remember that it will take not 6 minutes to cook it, but about 8-10 minutes to warm up and set pressure, 6 minutes to cook itself and 5- 10 minutes to relieve pressure. This means that you need to calculate and set the delayed start time on the assumption that cooking will take 20-25 minutes and should start at 7.30 or 7.40 in the morning. That is, if you go to sleep at 11 pm, the delayed start time will be 8.30 or 8.40.
Yesterday I decided to try the delayed start, I miscalculated with the time. As a result, instead of porridge in the morning, milk soup. I will try further.
I think a delayed start is still possible in those dishes where pre-frying and cereals or pasta are not needed (they will absorb liquid, the valve will not block). For example, stewing meat with vegetables. But only with the valve closed, otherwise it will beep before you come home from work.
Nevmer
Good day! I have been using this cool saucepan for a month now. But I just can't adapt to cooking milk porridge. Milk escapes through the valve in the closed position ...Please tell me what to do about it.
Alenka212
He is not dead, and you are sure that he is closed for you. There is a very thin line between the closed position (I have anyway). I experimented for a very long time to understand when it closes exactly and does not need to be corrected. I have a closed opposite the letter P in the word. Now I calmly put milk porridge with a reprieve for the morning.
Nevmer
Maybe you are right. The valve is really weird. He is too mobile, maybe he is defective, although everything else is being prepared well. I will try. Thank you.
marie719
Girls, hello. I want to join. Yesterday I bought 4504. Immediately cooked pilaf and casserole. Everything is super. And this morning I began to cook semolina according to the recipe book and was terribly upset. Did not work out!!! Burnt, semolina curled up into large lumps, milk floats on top. They didn't even try. Tell me how you cook semolina (only in detail, otherwise I haven't figured it out very much). Thank you in advance
KOREAN
TELL ME, WHEN YOU COOK BORSCH, THE PRODUCTS ARE ALL FAST AT ONCE? THE POTATO WON'T BROKE OUT?
Vei
Girls, how do you like the coating of the bowl? Are you satisfied with its quality, nothing sticks?
Alenka212
The coating of the bowl is very good. I bake only in it. Everything flies off with a bang. If not for that, I would have sold it after buying Brand.
Vei
Quote: Alyonka212

The coating of the bowl is very good. I bake only in it. Everything flies off with a bang. If not for that, I would have sold it after buying Brand.
Is it Teflon?
Alenka212
I'll take a look. It seems Teflon. Dark gray.
KOREAN
Quote: Alyonka212

The coating of the bowl is very good. I bake only in it. Everything flies off with a bang. If not for that, I would have sold it after buying Brand.

tell me, should the elastic on the lid sit tight?
Alenka212
In a cold state it is denser, in a hot one the ring stretches. Sometimes you have to tweak. Then it cools down and returns to normal.
finanna
Please tell me the time is counted after the pressure build-up in this model.
I bought it as a gift, but I must first test it myself. I don't look very popular, this model is popular, there are not many reviews. I counted on it as a multicooker and a pressure cooker, but judging by the reviews, judging by how the cartoon she cooks not ah .. cook in a fast mode, and everything else on a regular multicooker.But probably this will not work
alfa20
Anya, don't be discouraged! Everything can be cooked in it. I make baked goods as usual. And in a pressure cooker - soup, meat (mmm ... tender and much faster), vegetables (both steamed and carcass), rice and buckwheat - are ready in 6 minutes. Pilaf can also be cooked faster using the pressure cooker mode. Beans, peas, beets - 20 - 40 minutes (depending on size and variety). The only thing that I have not tried is milk porridge - they do not eat them from me.
finanna
Quote: alfa20

Anya, don't be discouraged! Everything can be cooked in it.
Yes, the fact is that I only needed it for broths, which are cooked for a long time in an ordinary cartoon. And I wanted to cook everything else in it like in a slow cooker (or rather, teach my mother-in-law to cook - this was a gift to her), because the time is the same - while the pressure cooker raises the pressure, while it cooks, until it releases the pressure - the time is the same the most turns out in the end as in the cartoon. I thought I would cook broth in high speed mode and soup in multi mode with this broth. It's just that a person who hasn't had any experience with such a technique at all can not immediately adapt to a pressure cooker And she is delighted with the broths that my Brand 6060 pressure cooker cooks
finanna
Quote: alfa20

rice and buckwheat - ready in 6 minutes. Pilaf can also be cooked faster using the pressure cooker mode.
6 minutes is pure time without pressure build-up and pressure relief. And to be honest, I never cook buckwheat at all, if you pour it overnight with boiling water 1: 2 and immediately salt it, then in the morning you will have ready-made buckwheat of excellent consistency, even as a side dish, even for porridge with milk
Pilaf in pressure cooker mode, taking into account pressure, will be 40 minutes, so I am doing pilaf in the same time.This is me to the fact that pressure cookers as a whole do not win very much in time compared to multicooker.But the broths in them are really excellent and without any hassle
alfa20
Anya, I just have only this MS, so I somehow know little about a "clean" multicooker ... I mainly use the multicooker mode only for baking. It turns out that I got in with my advice ...
finanna
Quote: alfa20

It turns out that I got in with my advice ...
On the contrary, the opinion of the owners is very important to know. This is my style - first buy, and then look in the subject for answers not to my questions. I wouldn't ask people first, and then buy
But I still did not understand - the time is displayed on the scoreboard after selecting the mode clean, that is, without taking into account the pressure gain
alfa20
Yes. The countdown starts after the pressure cooker is pressurized. And in the multi mode - after the temperature rises, it seems almost immediately. In any case, I made a charlotte today, the countdown started right away.
finanna
Quote: alfa20

Yes. The countdown starts after the pressure cooker is pressurized.
Here, thanks to me and I should have known. And then in Brand it is necessary to set the time, as it were, blindly, not knowing how much time will be spent on building pressure. And you can never guess this. For example, put vegetable soup for 40 minutes and think that 30 minutes for pressure and 10 minutes for soup. And the pressure will be typed not in 30, but in 25 - and all the porridge is overcooked instead of soup Still, 5-10 minutes in the pressure cooker mode is almost 15-20 in the usual, probably ...
Alenka212
Anya, she still bakes well. Where in Brand I need at least 1 hour, here in 45 minutes it turns out rosy baked goods. And in terms of volume, biscuits and pies are obtained. I now use it for first courses (especially in the summer, appreciate when nothing is floating out of the pan), baking and high-speed cooking (for example, if after work I urgently need to boil potatoes, I cut them into quarters and pour a little water). In general, the more liquid, the longer the pressure builds up. Get used to it
finanna
Today I cooked beef broth on the bone. Immediately set the time to hour, because they said that the meat is harsh. She gained pressure for 25 minutes at full volume. I liked everything, only it constantly hissed for me, for an hour and a half Is this normal or I installed the valve incorrectly
Then on this broth I wanted to make soup in multi mode. I set the valve to the Open position, but it still blocked and the pressure gained, the lid did not open. I had to urgently change the time from 30 minutes to 7. As a result, the soup with peas turned out to be delicious for the kids, but with adventures
alfa20
I immediately pour boiling water from the kettle, then the set takes less time. This (hurray!) Does not affect the taste of the broth. I began to do this, remembering the old Soviet pressure cooker, in which the water boiled longer than in a regular saucepan. Yes, and somehow I did not install the valve that way at first. Materiel I should have studied the instructions more carefully. Correctly - there is a hiss when you set pressure, then a light click, and it is barely audible, and the countdown begins, the dots are blinking. And I cook the soup in pressure cooker mode. (Or on the gas stove from this broth. We love complex soups, multi-stage, so to speak. For example, a hodgepodge, mushroom with beans, fried - then add something, then brown it, then fry it.) Oh, it's time to turn off, soon by train (I'm going to Petersburg! Hurray!)
Alenka212
Anya, they threw slippers at me for this, but ... I also had problems with hissing. It seems that the float leaves on a closed wave, but still hisses. Then I conducted tests for myself. After a set of pressure (very carefully, PAR !!!!), I slightly moved the valve until it reached that position (literally in millimeters) when it did not hiss. And I noticed this situation for myself: in my word "closed" it is the letter "P". Now I can even put porridge for the morning at a delayed start without fear. I'm sure the valve will block.
Regrettably, it does not work in the multicooker mode declared in the advertisement. Even when the valve is open, it strives to block if there is liquid. Therefore, I cook soup (borsch) either in several stages: for example, first the meat on the bone, then potatoes with the like, then with the lid open I let the sorrel boil with spinach until the color changes. (Now connoisseurs of healthy food will throw slippers: meat must be used without bones, I know). But this is rare. Knowing these features, now I cook soups on the same tab ... with meatballs. fast and convenient.
finanna
Yes, girls, you need to tinker with the valve in order to catch the closed-open position. It is necessary to turn literally millimeters until the hand feels that the valve position has changed. But I will look for him, the position is
And do not upset me by saying that she will not work in multi mode. How can I then live with her
Today my hands have not reached the point of baking, but I really want to bake in it something lightly from a book.
Alenka212
Anechka, many have already experienced this. You still have multi. And in a duet, the multicooker and the pressure cooker are the very thing. I generally bought mine for use in the singular. Then I even wanted to sell out of grief. But now she calmed down, bought Brandyusha, assigned them roles. After all, two units are better than one, even with two bowls. There is a job for everyone.
Speaking of baked goods. My half is very fond of cookies with jam and grated dough. But doing it in the oven in the summer ... Dismiss. I found in the net a recipe for baking this in a slow cooker. True, the author was showered with slippers there, so that the top would not turn red in the multicooker. I took a chance. And, lo and behold, the top in Redmond turned red. I tried to repeat it in Brand, the top was pale for more time. And then I started to respect Redmond again.
Multicooker-pressure cooker Redmond RMC-M4504
finanna
Quote: Alyonka212

Anechka, many have already experienced this. You still have multi. And in a duet, the multicooker and the pressure cooker are the very thing. I generally bought mine for use in the singular.
So the fact of the matter is that I bought it for use in the singular only not for myself, but for my mother-in-law. So I "found" 2 in 1 only it turned out 1 in 1 And in principle I didn't need it, I just liked it so much that I won't give it back now. It's just that if you can't cook soups in it in multi-mode, then the mother-in-law needs to look for something else. And I'll leave this one for myself, where there are four there and the fifth place will be found
Alenka212
Good luck in finding! Maybe there are 2-in-1 models. But practice shows that due to combination, the quality of performance of individual functions may suffer ...
Ukka
Girls, did you measure the inner cup? Measure, please, it is very necessary !!!
Bergi
Hello! Girls, tell me, but show it better))) today when I wiped the lid and turned it over, a valve flew out, not the one that turns, but another in the middle, a small pin flew out and a round gasket, how it all looked initially - I don't remember ((I didn't find anything about him in the instructions, maybe someone can take a picture of how he is located there ...
finanna
Quote: ukka

Girls, did you measure the inner cup? Measure, please, it is very necessary !!!
You still need to measure it or is no longer relevant If necessary, I can do it in 10 minutes, just put the vegetables on the salad to cook
finanna
Quote: Bergi

Hello! Girls, tell me, but show it better))) today when I wiped the lid and turned it over, a valve flew out, not the one that turns, but another in the middle, a small pin flew out and a round gasket, how it all looked initially - I don't remember ((I didn't find anything about him in the instructions, maybe someone can take a picture of how he is located there ...
I can't take pictures, I don't know the technique
And it looks so simple as if the pin itself is screwed with a rubber nut, and just on top of it there is some kind of round carnation. Something like this...
finanna
At first I was upset when I bought it. that in multi mode it almost does not work, and then it got involved. that now I only use it
By the way, if you fry the meat with carrots in advance, I put it on for 9 minutes - and the rice is crumbly.
aleonorar
tell me, please, I have a redmund 4504 multicooker-pressure cooker presented for the New Year: (today I extinguished with an open valve ... only 3 tablespoons of water, and water splashes from the valve ... is this normal? and the lid does not stick at first and steam with drops comes from the spare hole (between the locks drawn), and when I tug on the lid a little, everything stops (as I understand it, it stuck, it means). Who had this? I, of course, understand that it will turn out faster as a pressure cooker, but each once to let off steam once forgot to put it on sometimes annoying
finanna
Arrived in our shelf Congratulations, you were presented with a really good saucepan But, unfortunately or fortunately, it will cook almost everything in pressure cooker mode, that is, the valve must be closed, otherwise splashes, hissing and other irritants are provided for you. With the valve open, only baked goods and omelettes, well, frying with the lid open. But I assure you that you quickly get used to cooking in this mode, everything comes with experience. At first, I was also afraid of pressure cookers like fire, but now I use them only more than once a day. Good luck
aleonorar
i.e. splashing from an open valve is it normal? and it is simply impossible to extinguish with an open valve? and how then baking - there is also liquid?
Manna
The pressure cooker is set to increase the temperature more and more if the valve does not block in order to bring in enough steam so that the valve can block. Hence the splashes from the open valve due to the strong boiling. Put out with the valve open? If without liquid, then it will rather be frying, not stewing. And if with liquid, it will boil and splash violently. Baking does not contain excess liquid, therefore, there should be no splashes during baking.
finanna
I think you won't have to adapt for a long time, everything will work out very quickly
If you have any questions, we are always happy to help as much as possible.
Good luck
Alenka212
aleonorarAt first, I was also very upset when I found out that this is a pressure cooker, and not 2 in 1 as it was announced. I even regretted that I didn’t have time to hand it back (while I was figuring it out, reading the information, the deadline had passed). But now she works for me with a multicooker for a couple, sometimes even more often. The first and baking only in it. If I came running from work, but there is no dinner, then I run to the pressure cooker, not the cartoon. I even bought a second bowl for her to make it more convenient. And when we go on vacation (9), I only eat homemade food) I will just take it. Make friends, and you will succeed.
aleonorar
suddenly someone will need my review ... in general, yesterday I took my pressure cooker from the company service center, they told me that the lid and the gum should be washed with soap, like it doesn't immediately stick to the greasy lid ... and everything supposedly works for them .... they also said "in secret" that even in the event of a marriage, no one will change anything, but they will repair it, and on the hotline and in the support service they tell everyone "write a refusal to repair and they will replace you with a new one" ... Bottom line: wash the lid with soap and water after the borscht (I just cooked it before putting it in for repair) not 2 times (so that the gum does not smell), but 4! and you will have to get used to without a delayed start ... because I will not dare to leave it in a clean kitchen - all of a sudden, milk will sprinkle again from the ADDITIONAL valve, but it is impossible to extinguish it with the valve open, this was explained to me on the hotline "typo-inaccuracy" in the recipe

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