Taia
Quote: shoko11

My Kenwood disappointed me, the main iron leg has been grinding very badly recently, I haven't even crushed the persimmon on NG. I had to finish it with my foot for a wide pan. The chopper is out of order at all, the knife scrolls and nothing of the products "hooks". We must slowly look for a new blender.

What Kenwood model do you have?
subiata
About the preparation of minced meat in the grinder. I do it myself there, only in a large one (1.75 l). And the cutlets from the blender come out great, I was not going to buy a meat grinder - combines and blenders are more universal. I didn't mean that you can't do it at all. It's just that the small volume confuses me. I used to do it in large, first in the Phillips 7745 combine (by the way, it is easy to wash it, I don’t know about others), now in a blender. Of the listed models, I also like the Kenwood 724. And I read in the descriptions that the volume of the chopper there is not 0.5 but 0.75 liters, which is decent. I chose a blender for myself according to other criteria (I really wanted both cubes and a leg for mashed potatoes, and this is only Vitek 1480. You can tinker with Phillips and order attachments separately, but it will come out more expensive and very dreary and there won't be a big bowl anyway. you need to knead the dough in it - even with a utility knife without a special hook it comes out well.)
subiata
I looked at the description of the Phillips 7605 combine and saw that his knife consists of two parts, right? In my 7745, the knife is one-piece and very easy to clean. And collecting it is generally a song. How strange, one manufacturer, but the technique makes one convenient, the other is not very.
Daffi
subiata, in the Kenwood 724 0.5 liter shredder. Information from the manufacturer's website. There is also an instruction.

It is not only the volume of the grinder that is important, but also the maximum allowable amount of products that can be processed in it. For different manufacturers (with the same chopper volume), these figures are very different. The least amount of food can be put into Bosch and Philips blenders. Of all the revised, Brown remains the leader, in a large bowl (1.5 l) you can load as much as 700 g of meat.

In the Philips 7605 combine, the knife consists of a plastic "ring" with two blades
Blender

All attachments are "mounted" on a plastic vertical holder (in the photo it stands in the middle, in front of the lid and bowl)
Blender

The price of this device is very, very affordable, somewhere around 439-475 UAH.
subiata
Yes, I agree, 0.5 liters. It's just that in some descriptions the volume of the glass is indicated as 0.75, but nothing is said about the volume of the grinder. So the impression was that the chopper was 0.75. That's how good it is, everyone figured it out and then whoever reads this topic will no longer mix it up, like me.
Daffi
Quote: subiata

Yes, I agree, 0.5 liters. It's just that in some descriptions the volume of the glass is indicated as 0.75, but nothing is said about the volume of the grinder. So the impression was that the chopper was 0.75. That's how good it is, everyone figured it out and then whoever reads this topic will no longer mix it up, like me.
The volume of a glass of 0.75 l is the volume of a plastic cup with a handle and a lid included in the kit, in which you can "wield" your foot. In the photo, he stands next to the engine block.
subiata
Of all the revised, Brown remains the leader, in a large bowl (1.5 l) you can load as much as 700 g of meat.

The fact is that Brown with a large bowl has a lot of all kinds of grater attachments. Is that so? And Lanna stipulated that she did not need such attachments. So we discussed small grinders. And in large ones, of course, you can grind a lot.
Stafa
What's the point of a large chopper bowl? In a Kenwood grinder, I quickly grind 1.5 kg of fish into minced meat, for a few bookmarks it is easy to unload the minced meat, then it washes even faster, but it doesn’t take up much space, although my kitchen is large and there is a lot of space, but I don’t want to take up stupid volumes ...
subiata
It makes sense for me. I make cool dough in it (shortbread, so it's generally perfect, everything else is also good). Then I actively use all kinds of shredders, etc. - also the volume matters (though Lann is not interested in shredders). Yes, my blender takes up space, but not that much.But, thanks to such a complete set of attachments, I now only use a blender for all types of work. For several years I have been using a food processor, hand blender, mixer and stationary blender with interchangeable chopper. They are already old, something has already fallen into disrepair. I bought Vitek 1480, this is ideal for me. He replaced all the kitchen processors for me. I actively use all attachments, except for the potato grater. So the place that the blender occupies pays off with interest.
shoko11
Quote: Flaksia

What Kenwood model do you have?
Kenwood 724.
Lanna
Oh, girls, thank you very much for helping to figure everything out! And then on Ozone, frankly, the description is confusing, but on the site kenwoodworld`com I did not find the volume of the grinder, I looked there the instructions in the PDF, it is not indicated ...
Quote: Daffi
the Kenwood 724 has a 0.5 liter shredder. Information from the manufacturer's website.
Poke your nose where to look
shoko11, and how long is your Kesha already serving?
No, with graters all the same it is not necessary, and then will Berner stand idle? Let him work. Cubes, of course, are good, but Vitek 1480 is still a bit expensive, then I will add a little bit and buy some Bosch MUM. It's just that this month the salary is small, but you need to buy something (there were 500 rubles of promotional items, in December I bought a bread maker on Ozone), so I have a small amount, up to 3 tr. And at one time, while I was interested, I planed the cubes on the Berner, there you turn your hand a little and you get these types of rhombic squares, now I have had the cubes)))
subiata
I read about Kenwood today on the Ukrainian official Kenwood website. I don't know where the girls were looking. But this site has a pretty good description. Try it there. I don't think it will be any different for Russia. Kenwood-on and Kenwood in Africa. It will immediately open in Ukrainian, but you can change the language.
subiata
Oh, I tried to switch to Russian myself and the "equipment" tab disappeared - where the description of all the components goes. So it's better to look in Ukrainian, that you will understand that you will guess (well, not Chinese). Now I finished it, this is the same site that you looked at, but only in the Ukrainian version in the equipment tab
Taia
Quote: shoko11

Kenwood 724.


How long did you use it?
I have this blender in my "Wishlist". But the review is not happy ...
shoko11
I used it for about a year, and I won't say that it was very intense. I didn't do anything particularly hard in the grinder, cheese, nuts, onions, maybe a couple of times meat and fish (fillets).
Marusya
Girls, Phillips 7605 was first purchased, very good graters, a 2 liter bowl. Like very much. And before the New Year I bought a Phillips blender 1669. Today I ordered a set of grates for it.
Lagri
Quote: Marusya

bought a blender Phillips 1669. Today I ordered a set of grates for it.
And how much does this kit cost?
Marusya
With courier delivery to your home from Moscow 2000 rubles.
Lagri
Yes ... For 2 bars, a little expensive, of course. But if you really want to, then you can spend money.
Marusya
Includes 3 grilles
Blender
To my taste, the grill that comes with the blender is for vinaigrette, additional: small for salad, large for stewed vegetables, soups, triangular - it is possible for meat and for children (steaming vegetables, for example).
Lanna
Quote: shoko11

I used it for about a year, and I won't say that it was very intense. I didn't do anything particularly hard in the grinder, cheese, nuts, onions, maybe a couple of times meat and fish (fillets).
Yes, it's a pity ... I also met with complaints about him that he broke down without a strong load. And somewhere they write that they manage to grind both peas and rice - you see how lucky you are with a particular specimen, or something ...
I found another on the Yandex market, this is what one comrade writes: "The inscription on the 700w case is a marketing trick. The motor is Jonson DC751 (2) XLLG - with a maximum power of 200 watts (nominal 113 W). There are no gearboxes!
subiata
I have no technical education, but as far as I know, the power indicated on the device is the total power consumed by this device. And the aforementioned 200W is the net power of this engine, i.e., used in this case for the rotation of the nozzles.And this is not a marketing move, the full power is usually written on the devices (there are exceptions, for example, the useful power can be written on microwave ovens). I believe that if the device draws more energy from the mains, it will supply it somewhere. This means that the useful power is higher. Two blenders cannot consume 700 and 200 W, but both produce the same 200. this is understandable and there is no need to delve into the jungle of physical processes. Nobody deceives anyone. I am more than sure that half of the blenders have the same motors from this manufacturer, only of different powers. And the disgruntled young man was obviously out of luck. How many different products I chose, read reviews, there were no unambiguously good reviews for any product, someone was still unhappy. Here, the main thing is the percentage of dissatisfied. The fact that out of 61 reviews on the Yandex market, 47 are excellent, and 9 are good and above average, suggests that this blender is good. Overall rating of 4.5 is good.
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: Marusya

Includes 3 grilles
Blender
To my taste, the grill that comes with the blender is for vinaigrette, additional: small for salad, large for stewed vegetables, soups, triangular - it is possible for meat and for children (steaming vegetables, for example).
And it was impossible to measure them along the outer edge (along the strip mask), the width, length, height of the entire grid. And then a crazy idea came up.
Winnie the Pooh
And you can ask to measure the lattice along the outer edge of the strip mask, width, length, height. And post a photo of how the wutek shreds cabbage into circles?
subiata
Today I will cook borscht and take a picture of the shredding result. If you want to apply Phillips lattices to Vitek, then nothing will work. Phillips have rectangular grids with straight sides. And in Vitek, one side is rounded. It would be nice.
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: subiata

Today I will cook borscht and take a picture of the shredding result. If you want to apply Phillips lattices to Vitek, then nothing will work. Phillips have rectangular grids with straight sides. And in Vitek, one side is rounded. It would be nice.
And it is strongly rounded, if a couple of millimeters it can fit if the size is the same. It is a pity that the reshotki cannot be removed in bosha. Unas Vitek 5500, and Bosch 5900. Phillips vopsche price prohibitive 8000.
subiata
Chopped cabbage on Vitek 1480
Blender
And this is a grid for a cube cutter. Its dimensions are 8.1 by 6.7 cm at the widest part
Blender
And it is strongly rounded, if a couple of millimeters it can fit, if the size is the same
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The size of the nozzle is 8.1x6.7 cm in the wide part. Based on the size of the cubes in the Phillips lattice and the photo of these lattices, then its length should be somewhere around 8.8-9 cm.
Winnie the Pooh

And this is a grid for a cube cutter. Its dimensions are 8.1 by 6.7 cm at the widest part
Blender.
The size of the nozzle is 8.1x6.7 cm in the wide part. Based on the size of the cubes in the Phillips lattice and the photo of these lattices, then its length should be somewhere around 8.8-9 cm.
[/ quote] I chopped the cabbage well. I asked the owner of these pictures to try on the rishot, but so far there is silence. On some forum, the rishot from the vitek was applied to the Philips grid but embedded, the difference was no more by 1mm in cubes. Not tomorrow, but on Tuesday or Wednesday I'll get to the Eldorad where there is a 1480 and 1669 phillips and I will try to shove the grill into the wind.
subiata
I probably read everything I can about cube cutters. I also saw a photo with two bars. Yes differences of 1 mm (9-Vitek, 8-Phillips). And cubes on replaceable lattices Phillips - 7 mm, 1.5 cm. And complete with 1669 (to which interchangeable fit) comes with 1 cm cubes. Correct the owners of such Phillips, if not.
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: subiata

I probably read everything I can about cube cutters. I also saw a photo with two bars. Yes differences of 1 mm (9-Vitek, 8-Phillips). And cubes on replaceable lattices Phillips - 7 mm, 1.5 cm. And complete with 1669 (to which interchangeable fit) comes with 1 cm cubes. Correct the owners of such Phillips, if not.
The cubes are different, but the piece itself is on 4 lattices if you measure it with a plasmask of the same size and if the size coincides with the coil, but there will be a small gap on one side.Vitek is a Russian company made in China and by the summer, looking at the Philips, will make replaceable grills and vitek.
subiata
by the summer, looking at Phillips, he will make replaceable grills and vitek
In my heart, I also have such a hope. By the way, you can read about Vitek starting from page 90. There the girl laid out a lot of photos and shared her impressions.
Marusya
If I considered correctly, then Vitek has a grill on one side rounded. And in Phillips it is rectangular with slightly rounded corners.
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: Marusya

If I considered correctly, then Vitek has a grill on one side rounded. And in Phillips it is rectangular with slightly rounded corners.
And the size of the entire grid can be in cm from the outer edge of the plastic wrapping, the width and length, even if rectangular. You are welcome!
Marusya
Edge to Edge: Width - 6.5cm
length-8.6 cm
height-1.2cm
I do not have a special device for measuring, I measured it with a ruler. There may be errors.
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: Marusya

Edge to Edge: Width - 6.5cm
length-8.6 cm
height-1.2cm
I do not have a special device for measuring, I measured it with a ruler. There may be errors.
Vitek 8.1 by 6.7 (in the wide part where the roundness is), Phillips are 1 cm larger, and I wanted to make Vitek and Phillips related. Thank you so much.
Marusya
Wait. when Vitek releases a set of add. gratings.
subiata
Yes, the width is still a question (you never know what 1-2 mm rulers we have that can walk back and forth), but the length-5mm will not fit for sure.
Marusya
And if you cut on each side?
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: subiata

Yes, the width is still a question (you never know what 1-2 mm rulers we have that can walk back and forth), but the length-5mm will not fit for sure.
There will be a holiday on our street, it is not for nothing that there is a removable grill in the winding.
Exocat
The Bosch harvester has only one lattice - 8 mm cubes, somehow I did not think before that I needed some other size of cubes ... Maybe now Bosch will slam an idea with Phillips and make a couple of additional grids
Marusya
When I get a set of grilles, then I'll write a review. One lattice is not enough. : girl_cleanglasses: And Vitek will think of something. Don't lag behind other companies!
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: Exocat

The Bosch harvester has only one lattice - 8 mm cubes, somehow I did not think before that I needed some other size of cubes ... Maybe now Bosch will slam an idea with Phillips and make a couple of additional grids
Bosch 5529 does not remove the grill, I don’t know from my mother.
Exocat
Quote: Winiepooh

Bosch 5529 does not remove the grill, I don’t know from my mother.
The grid cannot be removed from the cube?
subiata
No, well, of course, you can get by with 8 mm cubes (the most universal size is not very large in a salad, and in a soup stew, I even stewed potatoes, not bad). But this is already a sports interest - I want both small and large. Well, at least dream. I still went and measured the thickness, exactly 1cm. It is also somehow unclear how much the knife (which runs from above) will adhere to the grate. Probably will cling. And this cannot be fixed. Everything can be appreciated only when folded live. No, well, what a nature I have, a month since I bought a blender, all the attachments that you can think of work well, no, give me also replaceable grates. I think Vitek will not lag behind Phillips. He will also have lattices with different cubes.
Winnie the Pooh
Quote: Exocat

The grid cannot be removed from the cube?
[/ quo No help, but I could be wrong. It is necessary to clarify in the topic about the cube.
Marusya
You always want more! I want a crush for Phillips. But there is none yet. I will wait. Does the grill have upper sides (such a protruding part is about 1.5-2 mm), or does Vitek have a flat grille?
subiata
There are sides. Only not the top, but the bottom, from the blunt side of the blades. During the cutting process, the product presses on the blades from above and they abut against this thickened layer of plastic. If you saw it off, I'm afraid one day when cutting hard enough products, the blades may simply break the plastic and fall out of the rim. You know, this Phillips set would be worth a penny - you can try. And with such a price it will break down, it will be too expensive. And in Ukraine, for some reason, I haven't met them anywhere, we have 1669, still a rarity, and even accessories to it, even more so. Phillips' Ukrainian website doesn't even have such luxury yet. I asked when they would be, they did not answer.
Marusya
subiata. in St. Petersburg, too. found in a corporate online store in Moscow. There I ordered it. Now we can buy Phillips 1669 for 5570 rubles. + 1700 a set of grilles.
subiata
It turns out somehow interesting on these sites.Like Phillips, he is Phillips, and for Russia there are additional attachments in the catalog, but for Ukraine, no. Kenwood also has similar nonsense. In the description of the blender for Ukraine there is a list and description of the components, but for Russia, no. And everything changed the language. It would seem that what's the difference, because the product is the same. Well, it doesn't really bother me anymore. I will now wait for happiness in the form of additional gratings from Vitek.
azaza
In Boche-cube, the grille is removed, do not slander, please!

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