Sibelis
Song, SHO?
Song
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Song, SHO?
No sho ...
Sibelis
Exocat, damn it, well, for 16000 still ...
She has a 25 cm heater I want that
Crown
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Crown, not just that a kerosene stove with an efficiency like a lamp, kerosene gas looked different (though I saw it and a primus only in pictures). In general, I was a toxicomaniac, I love to spin around barrels of kerosene.
I probably grew up in the wrong Soviet Union :-), in my kerosene lamps were called, and sausages, thinly sliced ​​by a polite seller at 200 g for lunch, were not buzzing in my Union. :-)
Sibelis
Crown, for "cut 200 grams" you could get this stick of sausage in the head
Svetta
Defki, well, the choice of technology in the relevant topics like, well here everything again in a heap ... I'm not talking about sausage, then finally ...
Exocat
Quote: Sibelis
Exocat, damn it, well, for 16000 still ... She has a 25 cm heater
My 10 years already, I don't remember how much it cost, I remember for some action I took it as an appendage to other things.
Sibelis
svetta, yes, it seems we are discussing whether it is necessary or not, but not choosing. Sausage was mentioned - this is prastiti without thinking
Crown
Sibelis, compatriot!
That's it, I'm not flooding anymore.
Svetta
from post 544 to post 560 a continuous flood. Eh, Lenka Timkina is not on you ...
Mirabel
svetta, 3 here everyone goes so relaxed and pours out everything boiling

until the bosses see

Ketsal
I live in rented apartments, no oven.

From the necessary I will never give up the Berner grater and the luxury alligators and the slider. Blender Brown with 3 attachments (leg, crush, mini chopper, whisk).

Pizzeria princess - if there is a good oven, then pampering.

The multi-cooker - pressure cooker - is used a couple of times a month (it is not tasty for me to fry and bake in it, only stew soups and meat with stews or potatoes). Bread maker - if you have a good kneader and oven, nafik is not needed.

A meat grinder either separate or as part of a kitchen machine is needed. The parents have both a nozzle for Kesha at the dacha and a separate one in the city, when Kesha broke down, Axion helped out, and so he stood idle. It is more convenient to get the attachment to the kitchen machine.

Waffle iron - I love it tenderly, although I rarely bake it. There is a microwave oven in a rented apartment, they use it once every 2 weeks. If you have a good oven for nothing, you do not need it (the main thing is not to make a warehouse for pans in the oven).

A gas stove, and no other, played induction with a friend - you cannot fry cutlets on 28 cm cast iron on this induction - white around the edges - so you play tag in a frying pan.

Cast-iron cauldron - I just didn’t cook the jam, but I’d put out caviar and lecho, pilaf, and cabbage hodgepodge.

The gas grill frying pan is a discovery of the year, even my crooked husband mastered it, and he turns out delicious there, she even went to Crimea with us on vacation.

The mum has an air fryer, it is deliciously healthy, but it is always better to have an empty good oven.

A ham maker, I will never refuse.

Vacuum sealer - put everything in the freezer for storage, see it - I rarely take it out, it's a cool thing.

Phillips pasta machine. If it hadn't been for the stock, it wouldn't have bought. The parents of the kneader have km and noodle cutters to the kitchen machine. I just love lasagna and homemade pasta. But I love macoshi with ribbons of different widths or spaghetti.

From the wishlist: 1 good oven (electric), a good dough mixer - Kenwood with bells and whistles, a freezer and, ideally, a gas cooker. I hope I didn't offend anyone, but I'm a minimalist.

The only weakness is cast iron and pottery. I even cook soup in the oven in a pot and porridge
Twig
Quote: Exocat

I have a Zepter.
And, that's understandable why a person is satisfied :)) all the same things of different levels.
Zepter thing!
I have a hairdryer of this company, one night it fell from the washing machine in the bathroom and turned on.
Worked for at least 6 hours (included washing at 23, wake up at 7)
It was hot in the bathroom, like in a sauna; another would have burned out 55 times and would have started a fire.
Hmmm, everything worked out, and even the hair dryer is alive. But now I always take the hair dryer out of the socket.





Ketsal, I strongly disagree about frying in a slow cooker!
The diameter, of course, is too small, this is not a 28 cm frying pan,
Apparently, we have different models of multicooker, yours may be weak. And I love to fry in the Shtebe (and in the Element) - it does not splash around, then you close the lid, everything will be extinguished.
Well, and the oven, you don't have it, so you miss it. And I, apparently, arranged a warehouse of pans there and once again too lazy to drive. Therefore, charlotte pies are perfectly baked in gfgril.
Sibelis
Ketsal, I agree with you on many points, especially in everything related to the oven. As for the hob - it's still dumb to live in a house with gas, you never know fools. Yes, and a child is much more scary, for example, to admit than to an electric one. And so, I grew up in an apartment with a gas stove and I agree that it is convenient.For example, my cast-iron cauldron did not take root on electricity, only a flat-bottomed pot.
She went to google the frying pan.




Twig, nooo. All my life I lived with an oven, and it was my main animal in the zoo). She began to buy all the other electrical appliances when she lost the oven - in vain attempts to replace it.
I am a supporter of the classics, I like to bake, for example, hearth bread on a stone. Or 20 pieces of Easter cakes according to the 19th century recipe. The airfryer is not an assistant here.
And my multicooker fries perfectly, but I prefer a cast-iron pan)




I went to the zepter website yesterday, looked at the prices - all night then I turned and screamed in my sleep
Anna67
Quote: Sibelis
Or 20 pieces of Easter cakes according to the 19th century recipe.
Here, of course, you need an oven, but I can't imagine how it can replace the microwave:

chasing a whole cabinet for the sake of quickly warming a cup of soup, milk, melting butter is hard even if there are no pans. And if this is an oven that is on the floor, then in general it is only convenient for me to bask next to it. While there was a new stove, I did so - there was no heating yet, I would turn on the backlight, light the gas, a rug on the floor ... and stare like at a fireplace.

Sibelis
Anna67, I do all this in a ladle on the stove. There is a microwave, but I don't use it, it's a shaitan machine
Ketsal
Anna67, I'm also more comfortable in the rug on the stove. There is always a stupid cap in the world, an always hot plate and it is not a fact that evenly warmed up the middle
Anna67
Yes, you need to stir. But not only do I have pots in the oven, and the cooktop is all full. And then it's still a ladle to wash
However, I found a topic about milk cookers here, I remembered that I even bought it and never used it. Think I need it?
Sibelis
Anna67, so you can also fill the microwave with something - for example, put spices there or old newspapers)). Then you will not use it either).
aprelinka
I read and think how great it is that we are all so different)))))))))))))))))))))) and frankly, the coolest thing is that everyone can do exactly the way they want more convenient, more convenient, the most pleasant

but I dream that in my new kitchen there will be a place for many toys, they will not be crammed with newspapers and so on. and I will use everything, everything, everything as desired and necessary.
Anna67
Sibelis, no, for the most part this is my disgust for the gas stove - we have poorly designed ventilation once and a poorly designed outlet two. Although the gasmen are saying that everything is fine, I can smell it. This monster has never turned on for years, but you still have to wash it
optimist
Quote: Ketsal
I will never give up the Berner grater and the luxury alligators and the slider.
Olya, you have finally confirmed my desire to have an Alligator and a Berner!
These two things have been in my Wishlist for probably a year now (since I came to xp). I will definitely buy it on occasion (there is no extra dozen yet), but I dream about them ...
There is a truth Status, a Giant and a Decok cutter (Alligator principle) ... but the feeling that I did not get something in my life does not leave ...
Ketsal
optimistBerner is more needed, but safety precautions must be observed. I read about the giant, but I don't like to produce entities, why is he if there is Berner. In principle, if you have a Berner, it is possible without an alligator slicer. I also love drushlag - the crescent moon is like a cover for a pan. At home, Teskomovsky, and bought it for my parents in a tape for 85 rubles.
About frying in a slow cooker, I still don't like it either in my, or in my mother's, or in the cheap Scarlett in the village. In my world, a multicooker is an enamelled pan, only electric and under pressure. This is not a gas that is instantly regulated. The coffee machine is in the last place - I can't drink a lot of coffee. And a socket for thin waffles.
Venera007
Mirabel, Vika, please poke, what kind of "little Chikko" is this?
Mirabel
Tatyana, https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=385998.0
here is this topic! more similar Kenwoods appeared.
Sibelis
optimist, so I, too, look at these slicers / graters / grinders all the time ... Well, I just can't come to terms that this garbage is one and a half times more expensive than my slow cooker




Venera007, girls, I beg you! Kikko, not Chikko.
Mirabel
Quote: optimist
me in the desire to have an Alligator and Berner!
Necessarily! I use Berner, but not very actively. because I'm afraid of him, but Alligator-ooooo is such a miracle!
Sibelis
Mirabel, I also want an Alligator, but I'm afraid of Berner. Literally today I looked at it in the Metro, in a metal case it costs 6000, you can take it for minus 30% on a coupon. But I use the usual grater to cut all the time, and with this I will immediately cut off half my hands.
Anna67
I also have a grater that I'm afraid - with adjustable thickness of the cut holder. I'm not afraid of the usual, the slicer is also on the shelf. It seems I bought it for cabbage (the principle is the same as for a shredding board), but I didn't even try.
optimist
I, too, am afraid of Berner, after reading the hands that have been cut to the floor on him. If I take it, then I will approach him only in Kevlar gloves.
For about a week after buying the Giant, I was cutting, and then I got used to it, now I rub almost all the vegetable without a fruit holder without a trace.
Sibelis
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I rub almost all the vegetable without a fruit holder without a trace.





I saw on one site a kitchen glove made of small metal rings. Costs 8 tons. We all need these, in pairs
Yan0tik
I dream of a smokeless charcoal grill ... for half a year already) And it costs almost like the above-mentioned glove))
Wildebeest
optimist, Lenusya, so the fruit holder is not in vain attached. In approximately 22 years of operation, not a single cut.
Exocat
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I saw on one site a kitchen glove made of small metal rings.
From metal rings - for opening oysters.
Sibelis
Quote: Exocat
From metal rings - for opening oysters.
Cho so right away?
For example, for meat

Necessary and not very kitchen appliances

Exocat
Quote: Sibelis
Cho so right away?
First of all.
And for meat - this is probably for cases of felling
For regular cutting of meat and for using a grater, Kelavir gloves are sufficient. But they are useless when opening oysters if the knife breaks. And just metal.

Hence their cost.
Sibelis
Exocatwhether there is enough or not, I do not know, but they googled like butcher's gloves.
Exocat
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I don’t know whether there’s enough or not, but they google like butcher gloves.
In other words, you don’t think about the essence of protection when performing any actions, the main thing is that what is written in Google is clear.
Sibelis
Exocat, well, you are kind of smarter than the manufacturer who called them that. Submit your protest.
Exocat
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well, you're kind of smarter than the manufacturer who called them that. Submit your protest.
We are discussing the applicability, convenience and safety of some priblud here. You personally said that you absolutely do not understand the issue, which means that most likely you did not see these things live, and even less did you use them.

I have used both. I have my own opinion based on my own experience, and I express it.

You, as I understood, are guided exclusively by Google information and are trying to leave the last word for yourself. If this is important to you, then I do not mind.
Sibelis
Exocat, look, do you just distinguish between Google information and the official instructions / manufacturer's name? I also like to tighten the nuts with pliers, but this does not make them a wrench.
What are we arguing about at all? About what is more convenient to do with them or why were they produced? I said the manufacturer called them butcher's gloves - do you have any objections to this particular point?
Exocat
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I said the manufacturer called them butcher's gloves - do you have any objections to this particular point?
Yes, there is, because I bought such gloves for working with oysters. I didn't buy it in Russia. I bought it complete with other specialized devices. And I used it ITSELF. I do not know which manufacturer do you mean, whether this manufacturer is the inventor of these gloves, and whether he has a legitimate right to a comprehensive primary name.
And a topic for discussing the usability of different pribluds, and not for the battle for the rights of manufacturers.
How I use different gloves, I wrote.
Maybe you will share your experience with us?
Song
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butcher's gloves
Well, this does not mean that they are exclusively for butchers!
selenа
Quote: Song
for the butchers!
For the sake of truth - there are more butchers than "shoppers"
Exocat
Quote: selenа
For the sake of truth - there are more butchers than "shoppers"
Here! Exactly so, and with us, far from the sea, almost everything. Well, who of us has seen, bought, uses such gloves for meat? I will be very optimistic if I say that the statistical error of those present. And in places where oysters and shellfish are a regular meal, they are sold at the supermarket just above average. Because the usual one only sells oyster knives. What is my conclusion? These gloves most likely (I will not argue) have their origin from those places. If someone has their own theory, I will be glad to read it.
Their purpose is to stop a sharp direct blow, like a chain mail. When the knife came off the oyster. When the hatchet hit the wrong place (if you chop meat).
If they are used to protect the fingers from grating, that is, when the wound can be applied tangentially, then there is a high probability of catching the ring of the glove chain mail and dislocating the finger. For the grater, they came up with Kelavrovye, which will not hook tightly, they will be slightly damaged themselves and soften the movement, but will protect the fingers.
selenа
Quote: Exocat
Well, who of us has seen, bought, uses such gloves for meat?
I first saw such gloves from a guy who works at a meat processing plant in Canada and maintains "butcher's notes", since then I consider them to be purely professional, for butchers and cooks who are engaged in serious work with meat, and at home I use beef stroganoff for meat. so I'll cut it, well, maybe I'll sacrifice one fingernail.Kevlar gloves are more versatile for homework and hiking, you probably need to buy a pair just in case

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