Bread doesn't work in Panasonic

[Amal]

Amal, both on the main and on the main low-yeast (I do not use all of them, so I will not speak for all programs) two batches with a difference of about 10 minutes between batches. Leveling, then kneading, then raising for about 10 minutes and kneading again for about 5 minutes, and then a long rise

After I added 2 tablespoons of flour, it turned out to be a bun, but rather dense ... It turns out that even if I switched to the "Rise" program, the hp returned again to "Kneading", they said right here .. I was scared that I didn't need to knead will be, so I added some flour ..

Where is the photo?

I photographed everything, but I can't find how to insert a photo ...
I am very grateful to everyone!

What is the reason for the failure?

Maybe the flour is not very good?
I also did not have a case when Panasiy ruined bread

Yeast used Saf Moment (sorry wrong). Do you need to put them in the dispenser?

Why is yeast in the dispenser? Yeast in a bucket. Then flour, salt, sugar, butter and liquid. Program selection 1, start button.
They forgot everything.

[Elenochka Nikolaevna]

Elenochka Nikolaevna, at Nadia HP with a yeast dispenser.

[Amal]

I photographed everything, but I can't find how to insert a photo ...
I am very grateful to everyone!

Amal, here is your photo

I photographed everything, but I can't find how to insert a photo ...
I am very grateful to everyone!

As a result, is the bread baked?

[Amal]

I have an old Panasonic, 257 more. But I remember that at first I did not understand the recipe table with yeast - how much for the fast mode and how much for the normal mode.
Maybe u Amal is this the problem?

Girls! The bread finally turned out! Uraaa!
I can't figure out how to insert a photo in the mobile version .. But it smells sooo delicious! But I will put the crust on a dark one, the middle one for us is light.
Conclusion: without weights anywhere!
Thanks a lot to everyone who helped me figure it out. I will now try out other recipes and understand the use of the forum.
All delicious bread and health!

Girls! The bread finally turned out! Uraaa!
I can't figure out how to insert a photo in the mobile version .. But it smells sooo delicious! But I will put the crust on a dark one, the middle one for us is light.
Conclusion: without weights anywhere!
Thanks a lot to everyone who helped me figure it out. I will now try out other recipes and understand the use of the forum.
All delicious bread and health!

Congratulations! Bake to your health! You have a very good bread maker, and you came to the right one on the forum

P.s. If you think that something is missing in the kolobok (liquid or flour), add the ingredients in a spoonful, no more.

Thank you Ninelle! I already thought that the defective HP was caught)).
I wouldn't have figured it out without you! Everyone here is very responsive! Good for all!

[Hope]

Hope, I will give information to confirm that Panasonic does not fail with strict adherence to the recipe according to the instructions and good quality ingredients. I stopped doing all sorts of experiments with recipes, and left this pleasure to my wife. She conjures something there, adds, looks in ... Everything turns out very tasty But there are also breakups. I only have bread for every day on program 01. There should always be bread in the house! In the evening I put it, at 23-00 I press the "Start" button and go to sleep. I don’t even bother with a delay. At 3-05 or so, I wake up to the aroma of baked bread coming from the kitchen. I get up, turn off, shake out the bread on the board, cover it with a towel and go to fill up. In the morning you can have breakfast with bread. Key algorithm: I closed the lid at 23-00, opened the lid at 3-05. FSE!

There is one small catch.By itself, the finished bread stopped falling out. You have to tap the board with a bucket. Apparently I'm waking up the neighbors. I sin on a blade knife but I don't know what to do. I don't want to buy.

Girls! The bread finally turned out! Uraaa!

All delicious bread and health!

And to you, Nadya !!!

Vit, when I put it on in the evening, I do not always wake up at night, it costs bread in Panasik calmly until the morning and even the crust will not soak. And I'm afraid to knock, I just shake it sharply, and if it doesn't come out anyway, I walk around the perimeter with a silicone spatula and shake it out afterwards, but I only had this when I baked with the wrong spatula, a piece of bread remained on the spatula after excavation. There will be a sale soon on Ali, buy a shovel - do not suffer.

[Buttercup]

Buttercup, Thank you! I'll try to swing it with a silicone spatula.
Yes, I’m crying and I don’t suffer too much. I think that even the neighbors from the bed of sleep won’t get it from where it came from

[Wit]

Wit, I usually have a spatula in the bread, I take it out with great difficulty. But I myself, I think, is to blame, I scratched the kg and got stuck for the first time.

[Wit]

Wit, and if you wipe the spatula lightly with vegetable oil, especially the place of the nozzle on the pin, then the flour will not clog there. I found such a way out for myself.

My HB Panasonic is very ancient, I always pour the liquid first and then pour flour on top and the rest, otherwise the flour remains at the bottom, and I never climb when the program is running.

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, the vegetable oil will absorb the bun when kneading. I thought about it. Probably because the weight is minimal. I will try to bake the next bread at the maximum.
Irinap, I have already shared my experience here, how I get a spatula out of bread two fingers and taught his wife. It turns out!
I will briefly repeat. In the bottom of the bread, it is slightly visible in which direction the blade of the blade is located. Along it with your fingers on both sides, you need to crush the crust towards the center. Well, or vice versa. The blade of the blade will easily show up on the surface. We take it with our fingers and take it out of the bread. Smile and wave! Good luck!

vegetable oil will absorb the bun when kneading. I thought about it.

There is nothing to take in there, thinly grease the spatula before installing it in the pot🌼

[Wit]

Wit, exactly according to your method and did, but ...

Can't you make a hook out of a wire? so that not with your fingers, but with a hook? I had some kind of budget before Panasik, I already forgot. There, initially, both the bucket and the shovel were of such quality that the hook was immediately attached to the kit
In those days, I smeared them with universal grease from Lyuda when it was not lazy. It helped.
We have a universal grease on the forum.

Universal non-stick mold release (mary_kyiv)

I have not checked it on Panasik yet. But I warmed up that defective spatula with this lubricant in the oven and was enough for several times. But, I repeat, I have not yet conducted such experiments on Panasika. Not yet rubbed to such an extent.

In other CPs, in which the scapula remains in the bread, I took it out by inserting a thick knitting needle or stick from the sushi into the central hole and tilting it in the opposite direction from the blade, the blade comes out of the bread and the entire scapula is removed while remaining on the stick (knitting needle), if hot - fingers do not burn

I get along with my fingers without any hardware. I get it in a minute.

[Buttercup]

Buttercup, I am grateful for a tip on how to cultivate bread from a bucket. Exactly! I walked around the perimeter with a spatula (albeit a wooden one, but narrow), the bread fluttered a little and how it will fly out! Thank you!

[Wit]

Wit, please, I'm glad that helped, and why not share my experience with a good human cat

Can't you make a hook out of a wire? so that not with your fingers, but with a hook?

Removing the scoop baked in bread: I know how ... (Kapet)
Bread can be easily removed! .. (conti)

[Irinap]

Dances with tambourines. Irinap, I missed one step. After passing your fingers (10 seconds) along the blade of the scapula, you still need to knead the crust around the sleeve (another 10 seconds). As a result, sometimes I pull out the blade by the sleeve.
And then knitting needles, hooks ... Do not tell me people

I measured flour in a measuring glass ..

Weigh the flour on a scale, and the water can already be measured in a measured glass. And buy other yeast. Here saf a moment is needed

Weigh the flour on a scale, and the water can already be measured in a measured glass.

And only so!

And only so!

Aha! ☺

[Apple bread]

Good day! Tell me, what's wrong with the recipe ... I really want such bread, but I baked it 2 times and it breaks the lid 2 times because it's very large ...
So: Apple bread XL size
yeast 2 tsp
flour 600 gr.
salt 2.5 tsp
sugar 5 tbsp. l.
powdered milk 2.5 tbsp. l.
oil 4 tbsp. l.
egg 1 pc
apple juice 150 ml
water 150 ml
poppy 2.5 tbsp l
basic mode with raisins, cut the apple straight into a bucket
I didn't put milk powder ...

Good day!
One of the reasons is that you have delicious (for yeast) apples. Here and tears off the roof.
Try to reduce all components by 2 times. And you will have a small but okay bread.

[lopyshok]

lopyshok, did he grow up so much that he was imprinted on the lid of the bread machine?

cut the apple straight into a bucket

How many apples did they put? It must be counted as liquid. Actually, there is a bit too much liquid for 600 grams of flour - juice + water + egg = 350 grams, 4 tbsp of butter. spoons - 60 ml and also an apple ... Although, for example, I always put more liquid than in the recipe and everything works out great.
And yes, bread on apples rises very well, I would also halve the recipe, or at least reduce it by a quarter. And if the roof collapses in a small bread, then you need to take a closer look at the amount of liquid. Maybe reduce ...

And the poppy is superfluous here, IMHO

One apple and a small apple ... in terms of liquid, this usually turns out for a large roll of 350 gr. water ... I don't see too much liquid here ...

And the poppy is superfluous here, IMHO

Well, it seemed to me so at the stage of "reading the recipe", and then I tried it and nothing is fine ...

Try to reduce all components by 2 times. And you will have a small but okay bread.

And what size should I put?

[lopyshok]

lopyshokDo you like the crumb of the resulting bread, its porosity?

In my opinion in the recipe a lot of yeast for baking in HP Panasonic on the machine. Reduce to 1.5 tsp, or even 1.25 tsp.

If you reduce the recipe in half, then set the size to M.

it turns out for a large roll of 350 gr. water ... I don't see too much liquid here ...

The liquid in your bread is not only water, but also an egg, butter, an apple. You get about 410 ml of liquid + an apple. But, I repeat, maybe it will work, especially if you have a model 2511 or 2512.

In my opinion, the recipe contains a lot of yeast for baking in HP Panasonic on the machine

In the instructions for a roll for 600 grams of flour, 2 tsp is recommended. yeast. And here also the bread is quite rich - a lot of butter, sugar. Maybe you shouldn't decrease it too much. And on the other hand - an apple, yeast love it, it grows well on it.
In general, you need to bake the baby, then everything will become clearer.

[lopyshok]

lopyshok, please show the cut, not the cut, but the cut of the loaf itself.

[SvetaI]

SvetaI, Svetlana, from the photo it is not noticeable that there is an excess of liquid in the bread (the crumb is dull, fluffy), but the overgrowth is obvious, and therefore I tend to an excess of yeast, with a specific composition of the recipe.

It also seems to me that an excess of yeast gives the result. Yeast can be very reactive on its own, and it also loves apples. They grow in the presence of an apple, as if by ... yeast. Sorry for the tafthology. The bread is clearly out of the bucket. That is, it's not just a roof blowing, there was not enough room for a loaf. It may be worth reducing the amount of flour by 100 grams, and slightly reducing the yeast so that there is enough space for a loaf of bread.

in fact, already 500 g of flour is the limiting figure in CP, at which moisture and the amount of yeast become very critical. A step to the side and already is a problem with overgrowth.

I would recommend reducing the recipe by half, that is, baking in half the ingredients, including 300 g of flour, it will definitely work without overgrowth.
Try it.If it suits your taste straight into a tunic, then increase it proportionally, well, there are up to 500 grams.
And if you are not satisfied with the volume and crumb, we reduce the yeast.

Now, at first glance, it seems like a bit too much yeast, but this is a finger to the sky, because the recipe contains baked goods. A low bun is bad too. You need to adjust both moisture and yeast to taste.

There is a very tasty topic: Easter cakes in HP.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=681.0
there is wet pastry, yeast 1.5 teaspoons per 300 g of flour, but it turns out very tasty and tender.
But I don't see a single recipe for butter for an amount of flour above 500 g. Wet butter bread rises too high, and then there's an apple. And dense rich - tasteless after all.

Now one thing is for sure: reduce all proportions and work out the recipe to taste. Only then raise the amount of flour to the maximum possible! maximum.

[lopyshok]

lopyshok, Do you like the crumb of the resulting bread, its porosity?

In my opinion in the recipe a lot of yeast for baking in HP Panasonic on the machine. Reduce to 1.5 tsp, or even 1.25 tsp.

If you reduce the recipe in half, then set the size to M.

Yes, I like porosity ...

I cut off the top and threw it away ... The whole bread maker must be washed ...

Maybe this will help? Did XL

There is a very tasty topic: Easter cakes in HP.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&board=681.0
there is wet pastry, yeast 1.5 teaspoons per 300 g of flour, but it turns out very tasty and tender.
But I don't see a single recipe for butter for an amount of flour above 500 g. Wet butter bread rises too high, and then there's an apple. And dense rich - tasteless after all.

I liked this bread, because it is exactly bread .... Maybe a little sweetish, of course .. but for me okroshechka is just perfect ...

I baked Easter cakes in a bread machine ... well, they are not like that there ... I tried "Pancho" Easter and realized that the bread machine translates the product ... sorry

[lopyshok]

lopyshok, then you just need to reduce all the ingredients by half, well, or to 400 g of flour and recalculate the rest proportionally. View the result. If you need a loaf of maximum size, then in small steps of 50 grams of flour, increase the amount of dough. Here is my first reaction to the first photo - just a lot of test for such a volume and it came out. Reducing yeast will make the bread less fluffy. Therefore, if the crumb suits you, then you just need to pick up the right amount of dough so that it does not get out of the bucket.

if you liked the bread, then there are least problems, then just choose a smaller size.
I would even choose M, because it really took off. I'm not sure the L won't be under the roof either.
ps. Above, in general, the ideal advice was given on how to consistently approach the ideal amount.

so I'll do it ... I'll try the smallest bun ...
Thank you so much!

Maybe this will help? Did XL

Maybe this is not important, but this recipe for Panasonic?

Good question...
I have had this recipe for a long time ... I don't even know what to say ... Logically it should be for Panasonic ... I already have an old lady SD 255)

[lopyshok]

lopyshok, I know that there are stoves with a larger bucket volume than Panasik's and their programs differ, and, accordingly, the result is also different. So I asked.