Help with choosing a bread machine

[Marina]

Marina, advice is invaluable! Thank you so much!

And what about the phrase "do not mix salt with yeast" ... here I bake bread with my hands, I generally, if the yeast is dry, mix it with flour, then everything else, I bake bread and buns and kuliabaks and cakes like that!

In general, before the start of baking, it is better that the yeast does not interact with tales of components, as it is written in the instructions! Yes, and here I read it somewhere!

[Ninelle]

Ninelle. Good luck with your purchase! How to buy, write! Let's all rejoice together !!!

Yes, many years of experience in making "manual" bread, in the case of HP, does not come in handy.

I must brag about it, but where do you get the flour?

I have a / s - Makfa; whole grain in Auchan - French thing, and rye - Oskol, and also Kudesnitsa firm - Metro and Garnets - something for a change

Thank you, do you take it to Peki yourself?

Thank you, do you take it to Peki yourself?

No! Is this an online store? If yes, then I'll take a look now, but I take food to the store, and I’m hanging out!

Marine ... this is a shop, but I found out about it, tutochki, on the forum ... 🔗

I'll say about the baguettes, even if they are small, but convenient for children! I cut them one, the rest do not touch! Yes, sometimes I will do it with cheese, so they take it once and fed, no need to break it with a lot, cut it! I bake on the road (we drive a car far in the summer), it's very convenient - it turns out in portions!

Regarding the baguette holders - our craftsmen have already mastered "non-standard" forms in Panasonic for a long time, including the baguette holders.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=173600.0

["do not mix salt with yeast"]

What about the phrase "do not mix salt with yeast"... so I bake bread with my hands, I generally, if the yeast is dry, I mix it with flour, then everything else, I bake bread and buns and kulyabiaks and cakes like that!

For about 18 years, I put it in HP: yeast, sugar and salt, and even baked it with a delay for breakfast. I always got bread. This is now, after reading on the forum I put: yeast, sugar, flour and salt on top, etc.

[Rina]

Rina, Thank you. interesting topic!

[Rina]

Rina, a complete dump of the place where you should think! Well, where didn’t ours disappear ?!

That's it ... it seems even some kind of baguette holders are used by Mulinex. And who has handy husbands, you can make yourself, just understand the principle. And molds for baguettes are already sculpted from cans

Good day!
Please help me choose a bread maker.
It is necessary that it was possible to bake baguettes in it, there was a function of kneading hard dough and the possibility of baking Borodino bread.
I would be very grateful for your advice

[dva-loskutka]

dva-loskutka, if with baguettes, then Moulinex! In it, knead the dough for dumplings and noodles and pies, well, all kinds of bread! Here are the last 2 pages and discussed this stove

if with baguettes, then Moulinex!

Or you can advise the model. And then I am afraid, as I understood in some models the baguettes "burn"

I have 600 230 in a metal case, for more than a year and nothing is burning, it bakes properly! And read here about Temkah about Mulinex! (I can't, litter the link, I write from the phone)

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=369.0

It turned out - read here

[dva-loskutka]

dva-loskutkaThe result is most likely not baguettes but "baguettes" or pies. You won't bake on the machine, kneading, molding with hands ...
"Borodinsky" or something similar to it, you can bake it in any KhP, again not on the machine.

Help me choose a budget bread maker
At the moment, she opted for mystory 1203, but judging by the reviews of the owners, she has a noisy batch. Since we do not have doors in the kitchen in the apartment, a low-noise copy is still desirable. The oven is also planned for making pizza dough (so as not to take a purchased one), since I am not a baker at all, so I don't need expensive dough mixers. Perhaps I will try to bake some kind of dark and simple bread, but obviously no frills, since our family does not really like delights. Perhaps white, gray, I liked the rye option. No jams and muffins are planned.In fact, I realized that a bunch of programs is clearly a publicity stunt, since the principle comes down to mixing ingredients, proving and baking.
Tell me what else to consider the model of the bread machine

Good afternoon, dear bakers

uh, mastered all 47 pages of the topic, but as always, I want a lively personal advice))

I'll start with a little background .. A couple of months ago I wanted to try to bake bread on my own (the store doesn’t please at all) and ended up on the forum. And since we are not looking for easy ways, it was decided to bake the first bread with 100% rye and sourdough.Thanks to the wonderful rye sourdough-semi-finished product from viki, I still got bread, and I bake it every weekend, we have enough for a week. But I want to bake other breads, both whole grain and wheat flour, on ripe dough, etc. We have already purchased molds and a clay tray for baking bread on the hearth. Actually, 2 difficulties arise: kneading the dough (now I knead rye with a spoon) and proofing at a constant temperature of 26-30 degrees (now at the battery, but when will there be no heating?). There was an idea to purchase a combine for kneading and a yogurt maker for yoghurt and for proving in it (although, later I read that 40 degrees is too much for bacteria "starter"). Next came the idea of ​​a bread maker, because it will knead and the proofing can be adjusted (in certain models), and you can also bake on the machine when there is no time.

Now I have a dilemma and ask for advice from a bakery guru.

at a price I would like to meet up to 6 tr. I read about zagirushi (sort of like that), but the price will be 13-14 thousand with delivery from the States and the purchase of a transformer.

As far as I understand, only Brand is suitable for my budget from the programmable ones? Here in the store they also praised REDMOND RBM-M1907, that there you can also make porridge and yogurt (this is the only way to win over, because we want to make homemade yogurt, and there is already very little space in the kitchen), but as far as I understand, Redmond is without manual settings.

Sorry, there are so many letters))

Thanks in advance for your valuable advice

[Anton,]

Anton, this stove is also suitable for your requirements:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=334291.0
There is a programmed mode, and "Porridge", and yoghurt can be made, and baked bread with sourdough. Take a look. You might like it.

The more I read, the more confusion ... Now I got the idea, maybe I can buy an inexpensive HP, which decently bakes on the machine and use it exclusively for kneading and baking when there is no time. And for proofing for baking in the oven, use devices such as an electric heating pad or light bulbs in the oven? What do you think?

The more I read, the more confusion ... Now I got the idea, maybe I can buy an inexpensive HP, which decently bakes on the machine and use it exclusively for kneading and baking when there is no time. And for proofing for baking in the oven, use devices such as an electric heating pad or light bulbs in the oven? What do you think?

How to create a temperature of 30 degrees at home for proving the dough? https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=149968.0

[Anton]

What do you think?

Anton, I read the link Elena... And what stops? Have you seen the whole Temka? Elena chewed it and put it in her mouth. The decision is still yours. And you will run around the oven with a tambourine ... What confused you? Your doubt is simply not clear. What is it based on? What have I missed there?

There are very few reviews on this stove so far, I have not found anything about sourdough bread in it, but I don't want to give 5 thousand just like that. And the result of the automatic programs is not very encouraging, for many the roof falls through, for example ..
I also liked Sana according to the description, but taking into account the delivery, this is already in a different budget.
PS We stopped at the Metro at the weekend for groceries, and at the entrance there is a rack with TarringtonHouse BM 2700 HP, a promotion for 990 rubles, put it in the cart while we went and read reviews, it seems that everything is not bad. For the purpose of kneading the dough, it will do, for baking in the "no time" mode, too, quite, and in the summer it will go to the country
and in the future it will be already clear whether to buy a programmable one or so we will cope
thank you all for your help!

[Anton]

Anton, I have been baking bread in KhP for about 20 years. I already have my third oven, but all of them are not programmable. Always coped

I've been baking bread in KhP for about 20 years. I already have my third oven, but all are not programmable. Always coped

so i hope thanks

[Anton]

Anton, I mainly use kneading dough and "main bread", less often "quick bread" And there are several more programs that I have never used at all. Very rarely did the baking program, I used it even in the last oven, and did not use it at all in the previous two.
CONCLUSION: feel free to master your bakery

but tell me what hp to take for lazy beginners? not so much for simple bread, but so that you can bake muffins and whole grain bread ... and knead the dough for all occasions.
so that the controls and programs are simple, and the result is pleasing))))

price - up to 10 tons. desirable but not required.

As a beginner, more than a year ago I had a Moulinex baguette holder 600230. I really like it, I would not say that it is capricious - it bakes everything I put in it, various bread, with additives and muffins ... I love it, I have no complaints I have, I have never regretted it!

[Charm]

Charm, I considered several options. Stopped at Panasonic 2502, never regretted it. I also really liked Moulinex, like Marina-Mark, but I think I should take her as a second one to my dacha (though I don't have a dacha yet)

Thank you very much. went to store sites)))

Charm, I've considered several options. Stopped at Panasonic 2502, never regretted it. I also really liked Moulinex, like Marina-Mark, but I think I should take her to the dacha as a second one (though I don't have a dacha either)

you think very correctly. as psychologists say - you want a country house, think about how it already exists and you equip it)))

I wrote a message, but they sent me to you there, so I'll just copy

Good day, well, or another time of day, I decided !!! I’ll take a bread maker, but all because I’ve gotten enough that you buy a large loaf of bread and it grows moldy, you take a small one and it quickly ends, but it’s far away to go for delicious bread!) reason

So, you need such a thing so that it bakes and makes dough. All! Nothing else is needed, well, except that she does it deliciously)) Dough for pies, ordinary white bread .. well, maybe another dough for pizza, but even that is not necessary. Therefore, you want something inexpensive and tasteful. In our city they sell Moulinex OW310E32 Metall Inox black from hands for 2500, so I'm thinking of taking it or not? Otherwise, I don’t know which brand to believe in the business of bread makers, and I don’t understand anything about them at all))

I was also interested in the stove from Polaris, I use their multicooker and I don’t know grief, I don’t want to spend the current on too much, but there probably is a lot of unnecessary for me

[Torrek]

... I was also interested in the stove from Polaris, I use their multicooker and I don’t know grief, I don’t want to spend the current on too much, but there probably is a lot of unnecessary for me

Torrek, Happy Birthday to you!
Unfortunately, I can't say anything about Moulinex. But Polaris is very happy. I don't know if you have read the Temka dedicated to her, just in case I will give a link:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=334291.0
Read, think. I hope this helps with a difficult choice.

[Torrek]

Torrek, Happy Birthday to you!
Unfortunately, I can't say anything about Moulinex. But Polaris is very happy. I don't know if you have read the Temka dedicated to her, just in case I will give a link:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=334291.0
Read, think. I hope this helps with a difficult choice.

yeah, Polaris has recently been reading my favorite company, so I immediately became interested in them, just for some reason it seems that there are a lot of functions I don't need
PS: Thanks

Otherwise, I don't know which brand to believe in the business of bread makers

Panasonic, founder and first manufacturer of homemade mini bakeries https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=197192.0

I decided for myself this way - either from my hands or Polaris
Tell me what is better to take among specific models:
1. Tefal OW 4002 for 3000 rubles
2. Moulinex OW310E32 Metall Inox black for 2500 rubles
3. Moulinex OW5002 for 1800
4. Philips hd9020 for 2500
5. Kenwood bm250 for 2000
Well, or Polaris PBM 1501D for 5100, the current it will be new

if the "hands" are not familiar to you, then definitely not with hands ... IMHO

[Torrek,]

... Tell me what is better to take among specific models:
1. Tefal OW 4002 for 3000 rubles
2. Moulinex OW310E32 Metall Inox black for 2500 rubles
3. Moulinex OW5002 for 1800
4. Philips hd9020 for 2500
5. Kenwood bm250 for 2000
Well, or Polaris PBM 1501D for 5100, the current it will be new

Torrek, from this list I am familiar with the Kenwood 250 model. It worked for 5 years without any complaints. I liked it very much But the bucket broke, and the new one costs 2 thousand ... Therefore, I would be afraid to take it from my hands ...

Well, I'm going to take it from my hands rather not in order to use it all my life, but just understand whether I need it or not.Thanks, I'll take a closer look at this model, because there are normal reviews on the Internet and there is nothing superfluous in it
By the way, I almost took a Kenwood BM366 here, I read there about some kind of induction or something that makes bread much better baked, what kind of miracle is this?

Hello!
Please help to choose a grandmother for her birthday - he himself had nothing to do with the subject. In terms of functionality, of course, you want everything at once (maybe you will like to make jam in HP and the dispenser will come in handy), but the main criteria are still the reliability and quality of bread, the ability to cook it from different flours. Her equipment is mainly Phillips and Vitek. Difficulties with using different microwave blenders were not observed. You need to order on Ozone with delivery; that's what attracted me from what was available there in terms of aesthetics / brand / reviews / price (the average price tag was determined, maybe I'm not sure whether she will like using this device - up to 5000 rubles). LG and Panasonic are not there. So:

Philips HD9045 / 30
Kenwood BM250
Vitek VT-1991, Silver
Redmond RBM-1902
Supra BMS-355

(there are also all sorts of Polaris PBM 1501D, Brand 3801, Oursson BM1000JY, Ariete AR00130 DBM and Clatronic BBA 3365, but this is absolutely terra incognita)

If there is another proposal for models, we will definitely consider it.
After the purchase, if anything, we will unsubscribe based on impressions. Thanks in advance!

[Cure]

Cure, I ordered myself Polaris, it will come Wednesday-Friday, I will test it and tell you how it is. On the part of the forum dedicated to Polaris, he is greatly praised
PS: In general, at home, a multicooker, kitchen scales and an iron from Polaris - there are no problems with them, I really like the company
I don't advise Vitek, no matter how much I take it, it always breaks down, Redmond is overpriced for the brand, Supra is as lucky, but in any case the product is of lower quality.
Ariete have a vacuum cleaner, quality product

Kenwood - this particular model is already outdated (by the way, just in the topic about Polaris "Shelena" switched from this Kenwood to Polaris and praises Polaris very much)

I can't say anything about Philips, the brand is good, but I can't say anything about their HP

[Torrek]

Torrek,
Great, we just have a little time to choose, we will wait for your test.
And I somehow didn't really consider Polaris, having read only negative reviews on YaMarket ...

Cure,
also toiled with the choice of HP, spent a lot of time reading various forums, in the end I bought Oursson BM1000 and is very happy. Adequate recipes are in the attached instructions, there are many bread options on the forums, you can make yogurt (there is a special container), on the same program I strain the dough when I bake with sourdough. The experience of baking is small, only 2 weeks, but there was not a single puncture (baked both rye and whole grain). Conveniently, when looking into the HP window there is a backlight.
I can't compare with others, because I used only this one. Good luck with your choice!

[j @ ne]

j @ ne,
Polaris and Oursson advised, although I had never heard of this technique before.
It feels like HP is about the same as with smartphones: you can buy an unknown brand for 6 tr and there will be a multi-core processor, a lot of RAM, a powerful camera, all sensors, a large screen and a fresh android (without unnecessary branded shells). And some Samsung or Nokia for this money offers only an entry-level obtuse outdated shovel, although this and that is mainly assembled in China (perhaps even on the same conveyor and by some people)
Thank you very much, the circle of "suspects" is narrowing.

UPD.
Panasonic SD-2500WTS has been added to the review, because today the price tag has dropped a little: although it is still more expensive by 1 tr. than other models, but the reviews are very flattering, as I see.Apparently, now they will advise me to order it without talking until they disassembled

[Cure]

Cure, I definitely advise Panasonic 2500))))). If you can buy it, you have to take it.

[Cure]

Cure, Panasonic is the founder and the first manufacturer of home mini bakeries, all HP is protected by patents, technical solutions used in Panasonic are not directly applied by any company, for well-known reasons.
Then it's up to you to decide Yes, and it is not entirely correct to compare a smartphone with HP.

[AnastasiaK]

AnastasiaK, sazalexterThanks for the advice! We go further to study the models and reviews about them.

I, of course, did not compare them as equipment, but from the point of view of marketing and scientific and technical progress, bearing in mind that a few years ago, noun names could not be compared with brands in terms of options and quality. And now the production of components has developed and has become so open that small firms can afford to organize a rather profitable production of devices that are not inferior in technical characteristics. Smart only as an example. And in our case, a random comparison of fili and whitka from the list: the latter is cheaper, and there is a dispenser, and can make a baguette, and two dough mixers, and the power is more. But phillips is a name that will decorate any kitchen. What does a better job at its task is another question, but this is with an equal number of positive and negative reviews.

And, continuing this strange comparison, it is clear that Panasonic is an iPhone in the HP world! Well, I mean both the name and the quality.

By the way, my girlfriend and I have read here on the site to the point that most likely we will order two bread machines at once - the second one for ourselves. But no matter how you have to cut the budget for each