an_domini
Quote: ElenaM

Panasik is very sophisticated, for different types of bread, with dispensers, etc., but I would like to be simpler, because HP is needed for simple bread, everyday.

Choose a simpler Panas model, without dispensers. Look at topics about other HP, compare. You wanted a reliable one, that's exactly what they offered you.
Mandraik Ludmila
ElenaM, you know what's the matter, the result of "unpretentious" hp is very different from bread from Panasik, I had two unpretentious ones before Panasik, so I already went through it. In addition, buy not a new, some earlier model, there are fewer programs. Panasiks are very reliable, they have been working for our members of the forum for many years, my only three years old.
And I do not really understand what the panasik is heaped up, the number of programs? So you don't have to use everything, I have 3-5 programs in constant use. Otherwise, this is the same form of management: weight selection, crust selection, delayed start (not on all programs), program selection.
NatalyaB
Quote: an_domini
Choose a simpler Panas model, without dispensers. Look at topics about other HP, compare. You wanted a reliable one, that's exactly what they offered you.
Agree. Quality and simple bread, and with some fantasies in Panasonic at a height. It does not cause any difficulties. No dispensers needed - buy a model without them. Although for additives I would like to have. There is no difficulty, but variety provides.
There are models without rye.
The number of programs makes it possible with a high probability to bake bread that you like and will become your daily. The choice is greater. And so I also use 3-4, not counting the test. But I tried almost everything and chose.
Anyutok
Plus for Panasik. This is my third HP. The first one was LV, served faithfully for 8 years. Then there was a failed experiment with Redmond. And now for the third year I'm not overjoyed at Panasonic, I have 2501. I use it almost every day. Either dough for pizza or pies, then bread, then dough for bread, followed by baking in the oven. Unsuccessful breads can be counted on the fingers, and that is due to a dead battery at the scales or my experiments with different flour
$ vetLana
Quote: ElenaM

Panasik is very sophisticated, for different types of bread, with dispensers, etc., but I would like to be simpler, because HP is needed for simple bread, everyday.
Models without dispenser available: 2500 and 2510.
Mandraik Ludmila
Do not chase after a new stove, buy something inexpensive on Avita or Yulia. I bought a panasik for my mother on Avito for 5000 rubles. Many "panasonikofilov" do not have one HP, the second is usually bought used. They are reliable.
ElenaM
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
panasik on avito
Thank you all for your participation, I'll look on Avito.
Annitta
Girls, hello everyone!
I really hope for your collective help. I am a person very far from any kind of baking, but for certain reasons it is necessary to prepare homemade bread for the child, different, both ordinary and with all sorts of additives, rice, corn, etc. There is zero in bread makers, now I'm trying to figure out what it is all about. Therefore, I will forgive you to suggest the most convenient and high-quality bread makers, so that they can do it themselves to the maximum and do not require being an ace in cooking, in short, for the layman. The price doesn't matter.
Thanks in advance for your advice!
gala10
Annitta, pay attention to Panasonic. The topic for these bread makers is here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=484338.0
There is also a comparison table by model.
Annitta
gala10, Thank you! Just watched the video on Panasonic 25 11
gala10
Annitta, read at least the last five pages from this topic. This is where the majority of users recommend Panasonic.
Annitta
gala10, I read)) I realized that we need a Panasonic, now I think, do I need to overpay for 2522? Or 2511 will be enough ..
gala10
I have 2511 for four years. I am very satisfied.
$ vetLana
Quote: Annitta
I realized that we need a Panasonic, now I think, do I need to overpay for 2522? Or 2511 will be enough
Annitta, I have, like Gali 2511. It suits me. There are interesting programs in 2522. If you need them, then take it. Back in 2522, there are two dispensers. This means that the yeast dispenser will work on every run.
Mandraik Ludmila
And I have 2511, I would say in abundance, I do not use all the programs, I bought because of the rye regime, but as it turned out, it did not meet my requirements. But the oven is good, now I only make yeast dough in panksik
Annitta
Thank you girls!
I do not quite understand what programs there are in 2522, which may be needed and which are not in 11. Something I do not find such a detailed description.
Mandraik Ludmila
In this 2522 model, according to the description of more programs, there is also Italian bread and Brioche.


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Annitta
Mandraik Ludmila, thank you, I think I'll get by with a simpler model first. Every time I read something and find new options)) Now I think that 2511 or 2512 is better)) 12th we are cheaper, I read that it is somehow loud ..
an_domini
The 2512 itself is the same volume as the others. She just has two dispensers. With each batch, the yeast dispenser is triggered, and a sound signal sounds, indicating that the yeast has spilled out, the stove communicates with you, informs about it. If you bake with fresh yeast, the dispenser also works, but without emptying. This short signal annoys some. It helps me, at this time the kneading stops, having heard the signal, I go up, look at the bun, if necessary, add flour or liquid. Especially suitable for bread with rye flour. But you can simply ignore this signal. And if you are not in the kitchen, you may not even hear it, it depends on the layout of the apartment.
$ vetLana
Quote: Annitta
12th we are cheaper,
Take 12.
About volume:
Quote: $ vetLana
the yeast dispenser will work on every run
AND Olga, described everything in detail.
The stove kneads quietly, the dispenser clicks loudly. During the day it will not bother, only at night.
Annitta
I can't find a video with the sound of this dispenser anywhere. Our kitchen doesn't close and the view into the bedroom is straight forward, I don't understand how noisy it is, if I put it on at night ... How's the coffee grinder? Or just a click like a door lock?
SvetaI
Annitta, four loud clicks. If the sleep is light and you fall asleep with difficulty, it will interfere. I also have a door open between the kitchen and the bedroom - sometimes I hear, sometimes not. But I am comfortable with having a yeast dispenser, so I forgive him
Mandraik Ludmila
Annitta, the click is very loud, I have a dispenser in 2511 only for additives, and if there is a program where it works, I even jump up during the day, and since it clicks twice for some reason, then I don't put programs with additives at night. But the sound signals "beeping" are absolutely not annoying, I do not hear them if I sleep, but I sleep very lightly. So in your situation, I would not recommend a yeast dispenser.
$ vetLana
I think the click of the dispenser in the 2511 is like a very dry wooden plank breaking apart.
You will definitely wake up from such a click (and there are several of them)
Annitta
Girls waiting 11
I'll go look for the simplest recipes)
gala10
Annitta, start with the recipes from the instructions. And welcome to the topic:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...338.0
$ vetLana
Quote: Annitta

Girls waiting 11
I'll go look for the simplest recipes)
Annitta,. The simplest and most reliable recipes in the book to Panasonic. Start with Basic Medium.
Do you have a kitchen scale? Measure on a scale.
Mandraik Ludmila
Annitta, for starters, bake according to the recipes from the instructions, they are just the simplest
Yesterday I baked French with new 1st grade flour:
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This is how it turned out, for the 1st grade it rose well
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Annitta
Thank you girls))
screw17
Hello everyone))) As I understand the question of what kind of bread machine to buy, you can not ask, the answer will be Panasonic (Maybe you made a mistake if there is something else worthy of the company, correct it), So what is the question for today which Panasonic to buy ?? There is little choice in the Stores, please tell me good models in 2020
$ vetLana
Quote: screw17
good models
For example, 2511, 2512
Mandraik Ludmila
screw17, see the table to understand the difference in models

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) # 1440
Gingi
Good health to all! A couple of years ago, I boasted about my bread maker, then my friend was convinced that it was a "harmful" device for the figure. And now she is ripe and decided to get a bread maker. I advised her to buy a Panasonic, because mine suits me completely. But it turned out that Panasonic is nowhere to be found. Is there any decent replacement? What else can you recommend?
vatruska
Gingi, Galina, in their online store there is the entire 2000 line with free shipping, plus you will also get points for registering on the site and throw off the price.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Gingi
Is there any decent replacement?
I don’t think so.
Look for Panasy on Avito, at the same time it will save money!
Gingi
Quote: vatruska
their online store has the entire 2000 line with free shipping
Will you give me the address? Yesterday they searched, they weren't in the networks, they weren't in the company store either, Maybe they missed it. They looked at Avito - there are no normal options. In some stores, it hangs on the site, but in fact it does not.
vatruska
Gingi, Galina, here

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NatalyaB
vatruska, there is nothing in stock. And, however, the prices were inflated! Which, in general, is not surprising: a very popular gadget in these times. And the dollar ...
vatruska
NatalyaB, but no ... their prices, by the way, are fixed. I apologize for the link posted, usually in online stores if the price is indicated, then the product is in stock, and here you need to move the cursor over the card. There seems to be one model here and it seems to be even available

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I strongly suspect that the lack of technology is due to the closure of borders. Perhaps you just need to wait and then make yourself a present, for the new year, for example!
julia_bb
On Avito in Moscow, there are three normal models.
Gingi
Quote: NatalyaB
And, however, the prices were inflated! Which, in general, is not surprising: a very popular gadget in these times.
Prices rose, but the stoves were still sold like hot cakes. I did not expect that a bread maker could become in short supply, and even at such prices, it seems not the most necessary gadget.
julia_bb
It is just on self-isolation that it is convenient to bake at home by yourself, so that the store does not go around. Judging by myself, I haven't baked so much bread for a long time, as this month.
Gingi
Quote: julia_bb
On Avito in Moscow, there are three normal models.
Yesterday we looked there too, the announcements were kind of muddy. I myself and my relatives found stoves on Avito for half the price, the condition was new. True, I had to ride a couple of times in vain - the sellers gave out wishful thinking, not right away, but I managed to find it even in the package. Yesterday I did not see anything like that, we will monitor it.




Quote: julia_bb
It is just on self-isolation that it is convenient to bake at home by yourself, so that the store does not go around.
Likewise, I also got hooked on muffins, otherwise I want sweets for tea. She pushed the scales further.
julia_bb
Quote: Gingi
Yesterday I did not see anything like that, we will monitor it.
That's right, in a few days you will probably look at something
Quote: Gingi
I also got hooked on muffins, otherwise I want sweets for tea. She pushed the scales further.
Exactly, then Easter cakes, then pasochki, what scales are there))
Ksyu-juha
I got here 12-15 years ago in search of recipes for my hb.bifinett 1171. And she still works - she presented it to the new mistress in connection with the move. From the replacement, the belt was changed and the sleeping bag, as it was often put in the night, so that it would bake bread in the morning on a folded start.
The bread maker is simple and baked me perfectly - over the years, the coating remained as good as new, and she worked for a large family and constantly bread, dough and dough on dumplings. Among the non-branded ones, you can find good ones.
Then they gave my husband an unold 8600 at work - a good one, the size is smaller and one mixer. Hell is more delicate than bifinette.
But in the USA I recently bought a Hamilton beach 29881 for 2 lb-904 goamma and one stirrer. It looks like unold, but it bakes like a bifinette.
In general, I am happy with the bread maker - I missed this device.

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