Mirabel
Marfusha81, Maria, Please name the exact model of your new stove
Marfusha81
Mirabel, Vika, Ariete pane express 125 Metal. There are a bunch of similar models, where there are 2 buttons in total.
Marpl
The same small bread is baked by the Orson bread maker.
Mirabel
Marfusha81, Maria, Thank you!
Mrs. Addams
Quote: Marfusha81

... I decided to buy a baby Ariet 125 (?), this is the twin sister of Supra 150.
I bought it and Mega is happy. I like the bread from this baby more than from Panasonic ...
Marfusha81,
Girls-boys, I can confirm, though I have nothing to compare with - I had only "small cars" - and "Ariete-125" under the brand name "Rolsen RBM-508" (this is not a twin of "Supra 150") (the very first, bread turned out the first time on the machine) and "Rolsen RBM-530" (available under other brands; also very beloved, since it is also with a delay), and now "Supra BMS-150" (also available under other brands)
Always baked CH breads, including with the addition of other flour, with cottage cheese and vegetables, loaves of 400 grams and even 250
Mirabel
Girls! I also found a baby bread maker, cheap! tell me, in principle, why is it needed, eh? beautiful of course ...

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gawala
Quote: Mirabel
But in principle, why is it needed, eh?
Vic, only strain and knead the dough .. And bake in the oven or in the miracle oven, if the summer is hot from the oven .. Well, I've been doing this for a long time ...
Mrs. Addams
Vika, so for the same as usual. You can only bake small bread. I need bread very limitedly, for 2, and we only eat fresh. Therefore, I have HP- "babies"

And Princess is pretty
mamusi
Mirabel, Vika, I followed the link. I looked. And where it is sold and did not understand. And I didn't see the price. I'm dull or something .. Interesting for me too. So tell me in words. Simple. Without links
Waist
Rita, do not Cry. I looked in 3 places - now these HP are not available. Prices are not listed anywhere.

It's about bread makers

Princess Silver Bread Maker Easy Type 151938 Silver 650W

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Princess Royal Breadmaker Easy Type 151939 White 650W

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These are automatic HPs.

Power: 650 W.
Mains voltage: 230 V.
3 programs.
60 minutes keeping the bread warm.
600 gr maximum bread weight.
Mirabel
Quote: mamusi
I'm dull or something.
I gave a link just to show the model, and a local uncle sells it at a flea market on Facebook. Sells for a long time, it's good to anyone

except one abnormal

not necessary.
Quote: gawala
dough and knead.
I understand this and I have a beloved Panasonic
Quote: Mrs. Addams
I need bread very limited, for 2
but I'm not 2x and bread flies away very quickly.
But I'll still buy the baby! I will periodically have fun with her.
mamusi
Waist, Natasha, do they have a difference only in color?
Waist
Rita, judging by the appearance and description - the difference is only in color. I didn't look at the instructions.
atol1979
Please help me with a choice. We need a bread machine, including for baking sourdough bread. How to understand which of them is capable of this? And what similar models, in the middle price segment, are most in demand?
sazalexter
atol1979, On a machine based on yeast culture, perhaps only Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20 will bake read the topics, a lot has been said https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=6173.0 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=173585.0 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=348427.0
Shl in manual mode, any HP will do
Mirabel
atol1979, I don't know anything about sourdough bread. But classic yeast, don't even think ONLY! Panasonic!
I had more than one bread machine, but nothing can compare with Panas.
atol1979
Thanks for answers! Dealt with this. Tell me, another such moment. Many information resources indicate that the most important thing in a bread maker is the presence of a bearing, instead of a sleeve on the container. Are there similar ones on sale now? For example, among Panasonic?
Marpl
I don’t bother what kind of bearings or something else. I bought Panasonic and for 8 years he has been plowing faithfully.
julia_bb
Quote: Marpl
I don’t bother what kind of bearings or something else. I bought Panasonic and for 8 years he has been plowing faithfully.
Likewise!
atol1979, take Panasonic, you will not regret it!
sazalexter
Quote: atol1979
Many information resources indicate that the most important thing in a bread maker is the presence of a bearing, instead of a sleeve on the container.
Do not read Soviet newspapers while eating! (C) Information resources at the OBS level. There are no such bearings, there is a sleeve and an oil seal, open or closed (at Panasonic)
Marpl
Now you can buy the Gemlux GL-BM-775 Bread Maker for 2990 rubles. minus points for the promotion (500 points) code

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... The result is a normal price.

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NannyOgg
Quote: Marpl
Now you can buy the Gemlux GL-BM-775 Bread Maker for 2990 rubles. minus points for the promotion (500 points) code

... The result is a normal price.

I bought it there, only I had 900 points, it turned out very not expensive. I was afraid that it would smell like plastic, but the smell was not strong, I warmed it up according to the instructions and it was gone at all. I baked bread for the first time according to basic recipe 1, everyone liked it at home. Not without flaws, of course, but this is a matter of experience. The menu in English does not bother me at all. There are also inaccuracies on the website in the description. The power is 615 W, and the overall width is not 606 mm, but approximately 380 mm. The size is 700 g and the crust is medium.
Help with choosing a bread machine

SoNika
Girls on Ozone discount on HP Philips.
Marpl
Natalia, congratulations on your purchase! Great bread turned out. He bakes HP like Panasonic, only 1 hour less, because Gemlux does not have this hour to equalize temperatures. I got 850g bread, baked normally.Help with choosing a bread machine
Ukka
Help me choose an inexpensive HP. It is desirable from those on the site El-do or Mvideo. I was given a choice of night. I'm like the main picker, and I will run it in. And for me there is no better Panasonic. Tomorrow we are going with the future owner to buy live.
Marpl
Decide on the size of the baked loaf, the choice of models will be narrowed.
Ukka
Marpl, MarinaThe size of the loaf is not important. The quality of baking is important, like Panasonic's or at least close to it. Panasonic people will not pull, there are 3-5 sput money for this. I tried to persuade to take on Avito Panasonic, but the person is categorically against boo.
El Do has HP Endever and Midea in this price range.
Marpl
I also have my first HP Panasonic, but after 8 years of intensive use, the bread began to be difficult to pull out of the bucket. New ones are now expensive, the bucket is almost in the price of HP, so I also chose HP, which bakes normally. I bought Orson, in it white bread was obtained from 300g of flour, baked normally, but a small loaf (just the husband eats everything with bread, even pasta). Then I bought a Gemlux (posts above), here the same loaf is baked in it as in Panasonic, there is an automatic dispenser. The quality of the bread in these HPs is like Panasonic's, only the prices are different and the size of the loaves.
Ukka
Marina, I need to choose from those available in retail stores in our city. Somehow - Eldorado, Mvideo and CSN. Gemlux is not there, neither is Ourson. There are Midea, Endever and a maximum of Kenwood 250. Here you have to choose from them so that the baking quality is approximately like Panasonic, so that the owner will not be disappointed.
I would take myself to Avito Panasonic.
Marpl
I wrote about my choice of HP, instead of Panasonic. And you choose from what you sell, read the reviews.
Ukka
That is why I am writing in this thread to decide. The topic is called - "Help with the choice of a bread machine."
I have the concept of bread makers. Panasonic was my third bread maker, as they say, "heaven and earth". But from those HP that are now on sale in retail chains in the price range of 3-5 thousand rubles. I have no idea. Therefore, I ask for feedback on Midea, Endever.
Marpl
There is a theme for Endevers - Bread Maker Endever (Kromax) SkyLine BM-50
Sedne
Ukka, Olya, I have quite a few hp, different price categories Panasonic is a Panasonic, not 1 hp in quality does not come close to it. In 2nd place I like how Moulinex bakes, but in 1 they are also not cheap, in 2 they make bread different, also very tasty, but different (I have 2 moulinex), in 3 moulinex the bowl is worse.
Ukka
Sedne, Svetlan, well, yes, Panasonic is Panasonic!
But it is necessary to choose such HP for a person so that he does not get upset. I think, after all, the Kenwood 250 in Mvideo is more or less a good model and they are there at a good discount and we will invest in 5.
an_domini
The Kenwoods have a very big bucket problem - they leak. Construction defect. In the topic about them, this has already been discussed.
I have not used Kenwood 450 for a long time because of this, Panasonic 255 has been working for 9 years (they are the same age), only now I use a mixer for rye bread, because the main one is completely shabby.
Ukka
an_domini, Ol, thanks for warning me in time.What then to choose? The new Panasonic will not pull the person, but he does not want to ...




Dissuaded from buying a cheap bread machine. I was with a cheap one and with Panasonic. And I can handle any. And a person will try once or twice, it does not work / the crust does not turn red / the roof of the bread is ripped off / the recipes in the instruction are complete crap, he will get upset and will have to collect dust from him. Well, this is not the kind of person to rummage through the forums. He will not order Gemlux in the internet. Let either Panasika collect or agree to it on Avito. I know many who bought HP and it costs like a dust collector.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Ukka
Dissuaded from buying a cheap bread maker
Olya, well, well, otherwise I sat and said nothing, because you can't buy a car for the price of a bicycle and it would still be unhappy with a cheap one, I have Redmond's experience, I still shudder at the thought of him. And it's a pity for money, albeit small, but still not superfluous
Ukka
Buttercup, the first I had was baby Binaton. With the help of the forum, I baked good bread in it. But she worked for 2 years and did not turn on at all. Then there was Orion. Well, here the quality of baking was worse, the crust was light. I left it on heating. Again, I did not bake according to the recipes from the instructions. But when Panasonic appeared in my life, I understood what real homemade bread is! Heaven and earth!
I no longer have Panasik. And I practically do not eat bread. But when you need hp, I'd better buy it on Avito Panasika.
And the person who had to choose HP, a man of pre-retirement age, is far from the forums and is not a supporter of buying on the internet. He bakes bread in the oven, well, let him bake further. And so with unsuccessful hp, you can discourage the stove altogether.
Sedne
Quote: Ukka
the first I had was baby Binaton.
Well, I read on the forum that Binaton is not a bad stove, but they don't seem to be sold now.
Ukka
Svetlan, I had it about 10 years ago ...
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Ukka
And so with unsuccessful hp, you can discourage the stove altogether.
Olya, I completely agree I am on Avita with a "naked" Panasik2511 (without stirrers, blades, instructions, a glass and a measuring spoon), but I bought a new one for 5 tyr. I bought additional stirrers in China for 700 rubles, and she is happy and I am calm that everything is working out for her
lala2
Ukka, I'm also very pleased with Orson, I rarely get a Panasonic, there is a big bun, Orson is just right. I am sure that you also have an online store Valdberis, they deliver to the most remote villages and delivery is free.
My neighbor, after the deceased Panasonic, took the Kenwood 450, she complains a lot about him.
Mirabel
Quote: Ukka
still kenwood 250
oooy don't need Kenwood a ...





Quote: lyalya2
kenwood 450, very much complains about it.
here you are
Spichka
Good day! My bread maker, which served me for 8 long years, ordered me to live a long time ... Now there is a different choice, but there are only 3 criteria for it: a reliable bucket, a metal case and the main program for at least 4 hours. Which one would you recommend with similar characteristics?
$ vetLana
Spichka, Panasonic
Spichka
Quote: $ vetLana

Spichka, Panasonic
I understand, here on the forum they love him very much, but besides him, what else can you consider?




Quote: $ vetLana

Spichka, Panasonic
And for Panasonic, how long does it take?
Mandraik Ludmila
Natalia, you can consider others, but it's better to buy a panasik, here I wrote about my old stoves, Help with choosing a bread maker # 1246
the experience of other stoves convinced me that there is no HP better than Panasik. Even my husband, during my unplanned and prolonged absence, managed to bake good bread the first time.
The Basic Bread program lasts 4 hours. The longest I have is "French bread" -6 hours
We have $ vetLana panasik 2511
$ vetLana
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
We have $ vetLana Panasik 2511

And in our oven there is a program "basic low-yeast bread", it lasts 4 hours 50 minutes. Read if interesting
Spichka
I had my first Hitachi, then LG after it. LG is far from the first. Panasonic is also made in China, now it is no longer what it was before, I don't really want to overpay for the brand.So I ask, what else can be considered?
an_domini
Why did you decide that Panasonic is not what it used to be? And before - this is when?
I have two of them.
The first - 255, he is already 9 years old, works in the country. The second - 2502, he is 2 years old, the quality of the bucket's coating is better than in the old one, it works perfectly
But my third is Kenwood 450, the same age as the first Panas, for a long time in the barn, the bucket is leaking.

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