Bread Maker Supra BMS 355

The choice is discussed here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=401.0

thanks, let's read it.

read, very interested in Panasonic SD-2501WTS, the price of course is almost twice the supra, but the reviews are simply gorgeous.

Why don't you advise your supra? Yes, undoubtedly Panasonic is better than supra, but it is 2-2.5 times more expensive. And the bread turns out no worse, and believe me, the supra is quite adequate HP, especially considering the cost

Why don't you advise your supra? Yes, undoubtedly Panasonic is better than supra, but it is 2-2.5 times more expensive. And the bread turns out no worse, and believe me, the supra is quite adequate HP, especially considering the cost

Did you find a spatula for her? How do you service center work?

So, in March I started this topic and came across it after 8 months. If anyone is interested in the story of my bread machine. Closer to the beginning of use, there was a problem with the engine, took it to the SC, replaced the engine for free in about a week! There have been no problems since then. The bread bakes well. Usually I cook either normal bread, or sprinkle flour of various grains, from 4-5 grains, it still rises well. Usually I sprinkle 1 / 2-2 / 3 wheat flour and other cereals as desired. I poured wheat and rye in half - it rises perfectly. I tried it with buckwheat flour, but it turned out too sweet, I didn't like it. I made Borodinsky from ready-made mixtures in boxes (this is generally super, but the price is ... 50 rubles for 700 grams of bread) and corn (full nausea, fed to the birds). Still, I think that if a person needs exactly bread, then there is no point in overpaying for a brand, this cheap consumer goods does just fine, I haven’t ruined a single bread tab in all the time, but at the same time, no matter how much I tried to bake a kind of cake, I never it turned out, it just doesn't bake even in 2 hours and it tastes nasty. So to whom the cupcakes are important, you need a baker with a high baking temperature (at least 200 degrees). The same bread machine, in my opinion, is in the region of 100-110 degrees. Or kneading in a bread maker, and baking in a gas oven - then it turns out well.
In general, who wants to eat bread, and not show off, supra will suit you perfectly both with the price and quality.

Hello dear guides! I decided to tell about the fate of my stove. I bought it in early October, baked for a month and a half - I wasn’t happy, every day, for myself and everyone else I knew. And then the bucket rattled. I began to dangle in the grooves, I was afraid that it would fly out. It turned out to be a factory defect. That is, the bucket should fit tightly, but did not fit tightly, did not fit into the grooves as it should. Because of this, the metal worn off and the bucket began to chat. For a month they thought about what to do in the service, as a result they just changed the bucket. They took it from the repair, I hope everything will be fine.

Hello! My husband gave me this bread maker at first, there was no limit to joy, but after baking the first bread I received only disappointment, the bread turned out to be somehow heavy and generally tasteless to eat it at all. I baked bread according to the instructions for the bread maker the very first recipe. After I climbed into your forum, I read everything in this Temko, I decided to bake a cake and again disappointment is not sweet, not airy, in general, disgusting too (although I added 5 tablespoons of sugar) Well, what to do, why can't you please tell me or describe the recipe in great detail.

And another question when you measure flour with cups, do you tap it on the table or did you pour it with a spoon and that's it? And I haven’t bought the scales yet, and now I’m wondering if I’ll have to move it away, as they say, to the far corner. It seems like the scales will no longer be useful.

[Elenka]

Elenka Firstly, bake according to recipes from the forum, secondly, buy scales, and read the third here #

Also, please tell me the Fast bread mode in this bread maker is not programmed? is it automatic and only rated for 1000? I tried to choose the weight and color of the crust, but nothing came of it - it seems to be the default. Does everyone have this or is it a stove with a marriage?

DenRassk writes that he used the recipes from the instructions for this bread maker and everything worked out the first time. And really his bread is very beautiful not to compare with mine! But why nothing comes of it, and even more so I baked a cake from this forum

We bake according to recipes from a book and from forums and to our own recipes - everything turns out great! Probably you are doing something wrong ...

OH! Thank you so much! I used Admin's recipe and the bread turned out great! even the parents came to stay and took away with them after the thrown out two loaves, five excellent ones were already baked and 750g is somehow not enough already, how can I count on 1000g so as not to be mistaken, that I don’t hope for myself, somehow I’m afraid that it will turn out horrible :)

Good day! I may have an idiotic question, but I need to clarify for every fireman, as they say ... The instructions for the bread maker say that before the first use, you need to ignite an empty bread machine on the "Baking" program for 10 minutes. But empty - is it just without dough or without a dough container with a stirrer? Right here jammed me

I was preparing Easter in such a round shape ... A delight .. All my fingers were licking !!!
But I am interested in this question: is it possible to cook dough on dumplings, pizza, etc.?

and how to send photos?

Very much even possible. on this forum there is a funky recipe, which includes Rast. oil. Try it and you will succeed. I knead on the "dough" mode for 10-15 minutes. A wonderful dough turns out. Don't be afraid to experiment. I even baked a pie in it.

I want such a bread maker ... but there are few people in the family! Will I be able to bake 500-gram rolls on it, or will this be a problem? And which one do you recommend for 500 grams?

I want such a bread maker ... but there are few people in the family! Will I be able to bake 500-gram rolls on it, or will this be a problem? And which one do you recommend for 500 grams?

The minimum weight of bread in this HP is 500g. Panasonic has a minimum weight of ready bread based on the amount of flour, it is 300-400g of flour

Hello! take to your society))) the owner of the supra bread machine !! I chose for a very long time ... and after reading it right here, I decided to buy just such a model .. an excellent piece, the first time I got bread. did everything according to the book with recipes .. bread does not live up to dinner children eat right away, just like that without everything !!

Good day. I bought HP for Easter, but only now had time to write. I'm very happy with the stove, the first month I baked so every day, where to myself, where to friends. In principle, I did not advance further than the first recipe (I tried the cupcake a couple of times but did not work out), since there are many variations with the first one: either the flour is different, then the additives are different. Here are the berries ... well, there is not enough refrigerator for jams, friends and neighbors say that something will stick together soon.
Rereading the branch for the umpteenth time, I found the instructions for the HP, downloaded it, read it ..... I don't understand something: the instructions seem to be similar, however, in my instructions in the first 4 recipes, yeast is 2 teaspoons, and in that what I downloaded 1. From the very beginning I bake according to the instructions and I seem to like everything, and the bread is quite high, and it does not tear the roof off. And how with whom? Who puts in how much yeast?

Rereading the branch for the umpteenth time, I found the instructions for the HP, downloaded it, read it ..... I don't understand something: the instructions seem to be similar, however, in my instructions in the first 4 recipes, yeast is 2 teaspoons, and in that what 1 downloaded .... Who puts how much yeast?

Not very quickly, but I answer ... I have deduced for myself the formula for the "correct" ratio of Makfa flour - Haas yeast

- for 465 grams of flour - 1.5 tsp. yeast. It turns out somewhere around a 750 gram loaf.
The book in the first recipe for 750 grams also says - 1.5 tsp.

friends and neighbors say that something will stick together soon.

I feed bread at work ... they say that if this continues, they will become hippos

A terrible thing happened to my HP - when I pulled out another loaf of bread, I saw a tattered bottom, began to wash the bucket and during the wash the stock fell out on which the spatula was put on
In general, I repaired it, everything was overpowered with 4 sets of M5 bolt 16mm long + washer + spring washer + nut.
We have a PQK 8-19-8 oil seal.
Immediately apologize for the pictures - phone, hands shaking and all that
Here is the stock and its parts:
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The unbent retaining ring flew out, and it's not surprising at such a thickness, I wanted to bend it back, but it broke ...
I drilled rivets with a small 5 mm drill, and then I went through 13 mm and removed to the holder:
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Gently forged with a knife and separated the base from the bucket, and squeezed out the rivets (carefully! There is a thin silicone gasket between the bucket and the base ... do not tear):
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I made a new retaining ring from a 6 mm washer (cut it out and made it thinner on emery:
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Then I collected everything back, Now we have a bucket like this:
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Since lately I have been baking only a kilogram of bread, I put 2 spoons, respectively, yeast "Saf-Moment"... Although when rye flour is half or more I can put 2.5 or even 3, because with rye flour the dough is heavier and does not rise much.

I feed bread at work ... they say that if this continues, they will become hippos

It’s more and more interesting for me, I’m not the only baker, my colleague Moulinex, in my opinion, so sometimes there are culinary battles, but the rest of the people are in the jury, so they get double rations .......... Already asked less often to sort things out at work and measure themselves with bread makers, since at home they do not understand why they come home from work full .......

A terrible thing happened to my HP

Well, the most important thing is that your hands grow from the right place and you are not at a loss.

The main thing is that HP does everything I want without any problems .... fulfills any whims.
Yesterday at work I baked a wheat-rye-malt one with buckwheat honey and pistachios ... in two they diminished the loaf before lunch ...

[DenRassk]

DenRassk Oil seal from Kenwood 350-450 and Delongy, manufactured by "Zhejiang SHANGYU Seal Oil Co., Ltd." Found in Russia, do not forget to lubricate with high-temperature silicone https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=32099.40

[DenRassk]

DenRassk I found it in Russia ...

Thank you for the link, maybe I will order ... until it flows, unless to buy in reserve

To check the operation of the repaired kneading unit and update the photos in the topic (about wrapped it up), I baked onion bread with parmesan and lambert cheeses:
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The truncated is working fine, the household almost died from the smell during cooking ... it's a pity the cheese burnt ...

By the way - I weighed the loaf - it weighs exactly 1 kg ... damn it, and I always put 750g ...

By the way - I weighed the loaf - it weighs exactly 1 kg ... damn it, and I always put 750g ...

So after all, and cheese with onions have a weight, that's 250 grams and came running.

I want such a bread maker ... but there are few people in the family! Will I be able to bake 500-gram rolls on it, or will this be a problem? And which one do you recommend for 500 grams?

If you haven't bought it yet, as well as for everyone who is interested in it.
Rolls for 500 gr. You can bake it, I tried it (for the sake of experiment, but it was not even enough for 5 people) True, the loaf will turn out with a not very even top and the spatula will be almost the entire height of the bread, but the quality and taste will not suffer from this. And after the last kneading, you can take out the kneader and then it will be generally great.
At the beginning of the topic there were photographs of loaves of even lighter weight .... take a look / search.

For those who are interested in what size a half-kilo loaf is obtained:
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(again I apologize for the sharpness and colors - there is nothing more to take a picture of the phone)

Here's my first sourdough bread:
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Basic program with a start delay of two hours.
Based on Sourdough milk bread and added 60 gr. Lambert cheese and 5 tbsp. tablespoons of sesame seeds fried in oil until golden brown.
I understand that there is room to grow further and the bread should have been allowed to fast for another hour (four instead of three), but the smell ... and the taste ...
In general, I am satisfied

I also throw a photo of Borodino bread here - recipe
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Of course, you can't cook every day ... you have to specially go and buy spices
It tastes and smells like old Soviet Borodino bread.

If someone will bake it, do not forget that all liquids are poured into our HP first, and only then flour and everything dry ...I did not immediately think about it and put everything in the sequence indicated by the author - as a result, I had to manually knead, since the HP could not mix water with flour .... Kneading - Dough, at the end - Baking.

Good day!

Today we bought a Supra BMS 355 bread maker and decided to bake bread.
The supplement dispenser opened (as everyone wrote) with a terrible crash and froze at 45 degrees.
Please write whether it should have been closed back or it will remain so until the end of baking.

Thank you very much in advance!

Good day.

Please write whether it should have been closed back or it will remain so until the end of baking.

No, it does not close, you yourself will close it after baking, or immediately, although, as for me, it does not affect both the baking in general and the color of the crust. I don’t remember the last time I closed it, it’s still open ...

Good day!
Today we bought a Supra BMS 355 bread maker and decided to bake bread.

Baked As a result? Did you get some bread?

The bread turned out to be delicious, we eat little bread, but even two days later it was better than a fresh store one. So they are very happy with the bread maker. True, when French bread was baked, the stirrer got stuck in it for a long time, it was very difficult to pull out the finished bread. The first time, when they baked, the window was not covered with anything, the second time, with foil, but the difference in the quality of the bread and the color of the crust was not noticed.

It is not necessary to close the window with foil - the crust will brown normally.
The point here is not in the window, but in the distance between the top of the bucket and the lid - if there is not enough space, then hot air does not get to the top of the bread and the crust is not fried because the heat comes only from the walls, and if the distance is sufficient, then hot air from the ten in sufficient quantities, it penetrates the roof of the bread and fries the crust - I personally think so

I forgot to congratulate on the first bread - Congratulations!
Bake in good health, the stove is really not whimsical and bakes whatever you want ... the main thing is, do not forget that we always have liquid at the bottom of the bucket (poured first), and after it everything else is added. I pour sugar, salt and other dry ingredients into the liquid ...

Thanks for the advice! It seems that we do everything according to the rules.
Let's experiment, let's see how it goes further!

In experiments, the main thing is to observe the proportion of water-flour-yeast, and the additives are not more than 10% of the flour mass ... otherwise you will not get bread with additives, but additives with bread and then it will not rise - the more additives, the harder it is for the dough to rise together with them...

So my happy supervising ended.
Yesterday my first bread maker moved to a permanent residence with my younger sister, and her place was taken by the HP Panasonic 2501.
For the sim I crawl into the corresponding branch, and I wish all the supervisors delicious bread.

If you have any questions for me - write, I will try to answer everything.

Always remaining a guide in the soul,
Denis.

PS: I changed it for one simple reason - I got the opportunity to buy a Panasonic 2501 at a reasonable price, which I did. Mine is working properly, during the transfer, another wheat-rye-sesame bread was baked during which my sister received an "introductory briefing" and immediately passed the "course of a young fighter". Based on the results, the title of "baker-superconductor" was awarded and this topic was shown for further familiarization and laying out the results.

SOS !!! Yesterday my happy bakery ended. The sight glass flew out, but before that it melted. In the service center, they made such eyes, they said that they faced this for the first time. Tell me what to do. I'm desperate.

SOS !!! .... The sight glass flew out, but before that it melted. In the service center they made such eyes ... Tell me what they are doing to me ...

I'm afraid to sound trivial, but if the HP is under warranty, then let the service change the entire cover or glue the glass - depending on what is provided for by the instructions.
If the warranty is over, then see which is cheaper - buy a new one or repair this one.
You can also look for a glazier and heat-resistant glass ... maybe he can cut and change ...
You can glue (put a plastic plug) yourself ... if you have something to make it out of ...
Come up with options yourself.

[jtaurus]

Choosing HP is dedicated to ... or my answer jtaurus.
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From my point of view, this is a problem-free HP. I baked everything in it and it always worked out. It didn’t work only once - this is the very first Easter cake, but I threw so much raisins and nuts there that the dough could not rise in principle. It bakes great - it is always baked evenly and the roof is never white (in other words, the topic about this HP is full of both my photos and photos of other owners of this HP).
Everything is done well for its price.
During its use, the retaining ring of the shaft broke and it fell through and scraped the bottom of the mold with a spatula, but I repaired it and HP is now regularly baking bread at my sister's.
A bucket made of aluminum coated with Teflon, the stem on which the blade is attached is metal (see the topic on the penultimate page for my repair report - everything is visible there).
In work, it seems to me, it does not differ from other HPs of the same price range. For mixing at night it will not work - it will be noisy, and it beeps and bangs with a dispenser decently. Although in fairness I will note that when mixing, it does not try to "run away" from the table or push other objects.
The lid is not "nailed tightly", but it is made removable and it is convenient to wash it in the dishwasher - I took it off and washed it so that I do not remember it dangling much - it is normal in general, from my point of view.
Of the noted shortcomings, there are the following diseases resulting from cheapness:
- thin metal of the bucket - at first, when installing and removing it, I was afraid to bend, but it turned out in vain,
- not a convenient dispenser - when it opens, the hole is small and only easily poured additives fall through, we used it several times, and then I realized that it is easier to add additives immediately when laying down or on a signal than to stand and frantically push inside
- the knot where the bucket is placed in the HP is not made reliably and after two months it began to dangle, but this does not affect anything, only it became louder to blur during mixing.
I bought it blindly, via the Internet and did not see it either. Pestered on this forum and in this thread.
The bread came out the first time. Therefore, it seems to me that this is a decent HP. My friends later got Beneton, Moulinex and LG - he taught everyone how to bake and now everyone has normal bread.
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Now I would advise the supra 350 - without a dispenser, especially as I wrote above to use it normally will not work, and its rumble will frighten at first.

Likewise, can anyone else ask:

Hello! I am looking for hp for myself, I have never used it yet. : girl_claping: I liked the model Supra bms 355, can you write how it works? how is the bucket? agitator attachment plastic or metal? and a stirrer ... the store suggested paying attention to this ..

Everything inside is metal, and a stirrer, and a bucket, and a mount. Only the top panel of the bread maker is plastic. She does her job normally, but I only use it occasionally, during fasting I bake lean bread, the rest of the time there is a bakery nearby, I take hot bread and bagels there, much tastier than bread from a bread machine. However, if you know the secret recipe, you can make one in a bread maker, but I did not experiment much, I cooked according to the main program and the standard recipe, varying the amount of salt and sugar (I like it more when there is more salt and less sugar than it is indicated in the breadmaker recipe ). Also, for the sake of interest, I did kneading in HP, and baked in a gas oven, the bread turned out, in my opinion, better and more aromatic. Then I put a digital thermometer in the bread maker, it works like this: heats up to 170 degrees, then turns off the heating element, the temperature drops to 140-150 degrees and the heating element turns on again, and heats up to 170 again, and so the whole process.Maybe such a low, and even a jumping temperature, affects the taste (bread is baked at 200-220 grams), I don't know, but bread bread does not compare with what is sold hot at the bakery ... The main problem is why I began to take it on the bakery is not even in this. It's just that when you want spontaneously bread, you will get it, you have to wait 3 and a half hours until it is baked, and during this time you will eat something else from hunger, or you just don’t want to, and you don’t want to cook every day in advance, unless only bread consumed every day at the same known time, you can put on a delayed start so that it is baked at the desired hour. But if you cook for one - the minimum portion is 500 grams *, no one will eat that much at a time, and then it will not be so fresh and tasty. Yes, and not everyone and not always can afford to wait for 3 hours, even though at this time you can do something else, and the last hour begins to smell like baking, drool starts to flow, and he bakes for another hour, and then another 20 minutes. 30 to cool down ... During this time, many people went crazy and grabbed the wallpaper with their nails from madness, because it already smells delicious, but you can't try ... In general, not everything is so fabulous with bread makers, although the toy is really addictive for the first time !

* However, I got the hang of making a portion of 250 grams: from the resulting dough ~ 40 minutes before baking (after the last operation of the kneading) I make two "sausages", take out the stirrer, put the sausages along the long side of the bucket, they go there for another 40 minutes according to the program, then 2 minutes before baking, I moisten with a brush with water, and after baking too, otherwise it will turn out to be a biscuit, and so nothing buns, they are quite edible, you can then cut them and put the cheese there if you wish. The only drawback of this method is that the bread must be "grated" almost during the process, because if you do not make the sausages in time, you will get a shapeless lump, since 250 grams of dough does not fill the shape of a bucket.

good time of day to all supervisors! Recently she has joined your ranks. Level - the stage of development, I am looking for delicious and 100% successful, tested on myself and loved ones, recipes for sweet pastries - cakes and Easter cakes, rolls. Share, pliz or send to the address.

If you manage to bake a cupcake in this thing, you can consider yourself a hero! I tried it a couple of times and all the time it turned out garbage, it doesn't bake like in an oven, the temperature is too low, the result looks "damp", although when I killed the workpiece, I baked it for an additional 30 minutes - it didn't help ... I had to give the birds to joy. It is quite possible to bake a roll, but I did not get tasty ones. I naively thought that it was enough to put more sugar in the recipe for ordinary bread, and you get a sweet roll, but it turned out to be some kind of disgusting. Apparently, it must be somehow different. But when raisins or prunes were put into the recipe for white bread, it turned out moderately sweet and tasty, they ate the whole product at once, nothing stale.

I noticed a discrepancy in the instructions - in the cake program, the time declared by the manufacturer in the instructions and the time on the oven display do not match. So what kind of program is it, maybe not a cupcake at all.
And yet, those who prepare something from sweet pastries or other pastries besides bread will respond.

If you manage to bake a cupcake in this thing, you can consider yourself a hero!

I noticed a discrepancy in the instructions - in the cake program, the time declared by the manufacturer in the instructions and the time on the oven display do not match.

When I had this HP, I baked cupcakes on it ... everything is baked normally.
Now I don't remember exactly how this is done, but if my memory serves me, I need to select the Baking program and use the Time buttons to set the baking time you need.

Is the cupcake program not working, or does it not correspond to the cupcake program at all?
In the collection of recipes. that is attached to the bread maker there are recipes for a cake, but baking is recommended on the fast bread mode, it must be assumed that there is no cake program as such

.... we must assume that there is no cupcake program as such

I don't even know what to write ... there is no supra at hand, but I always made the dough with a food processor, and baked it in KhP.
True, the recipe was not from the instructions ... I call the new owner and ask what is there and how.

Good morning!
Yesterday I bought a Supra BMS 355 bread maker.
Today I will try to bake bread.
Please tell me, should the water be warm?