mowgli
Quote: fogee

Yes, any beginner Rumba can cope with such a simple task, there is no point in spending money on an expensive model.
I have Rumba 520 apartment of 70 squares, 2 dogs, Rumba is just great !!!
anna_
linoleum owners please respond.
rumba does not scatter crumbs to the sides? cleans well? laminate, parquet ... have their own texture, and linoleum, the most common, has a smooth surface. I'm getting lost, I have to be determined, buy, but I keep thinking ... help please.
fugaska
I have excellent cleaning on linoleum! what he scatters, he picks up - no crumbs remain!
laminate and tiles - just the same!
Alena902
Can the Scooba 390 be used as an independent device for cleaning, or will it be necessary to use the rumba in front of it?
Solena
They came !!! They came !!!
Rumba 780 and Scuba 390. Scuba has not been launched yet, the mulberry water supply is frozen. But Rumbochka to work every day. Good how !!! We all sit in a row on the sofa and fulfill the words of the saying: "a person loves three things - to watch a fire burn, listen to the water flowing and admire how someone else works for him!" Here we are now the same, outside observers. The cleaning quality is excellent! But I just can't understand, it seems that we are not assholes and we maintain order in the house constantly and regularly. On the contrary, everyone tells us that we have purity like maniacs. So then where do we get so much dirt in Rumba every day ??? I'm shocked

And may I ask? After finishing the cleaning, my assistant, as expected, parks at the base. And he has a central round green button and blue squares of buttons below it. Is this the way it should be? Do they never go out when the rumba is charging at the base? Or am I doing something wrong? It's just that the base is in the same room where we sleep. And a little annoying at night. Knowledgeable and professional users do not leave me without help
lesik_l
JIu
I would like to say thank you to everyone, because thanks to this topic - which I studied for a long time and in detail - I got myself a rumba 770. I ordered it from Germany. Satisfied with everything - she vacuums for five. It was my gift to myself for others. The first days I followed him with my husband on his heels - they looked and watched. After each room, although there was no signal of overflow, I cleaned the container, my husband laughed - where did so much come from ?? maybe there is a reserve of dust in it? to make the first impression - they say it cleans well, it's not in vain that it costs so much money))).
And I join the question - the central button and the rest have a backlight when the rumba is on the base. Is this normal? I just thought that it would go out when not using the vacuum cleaner.
Alya
The buttons on the base will not go out. Another forum suggested two options: either store it in a room where no one sleeps and its light does not interfere. Or cut out the cardboard and cover the Rumba on top)
JIu
Thanks for the enlightenment. It's a pity, I was hoping there was a way to pay them off, but okay .. we'll either get used to it or cover it with a rag))
Lucha
Well, this animal will now live with us and help with cleaning
How frightened I was yesterday when they brought a notice with an act of damage to the parcel
It turned out only the outer packaging, the Rumbochka itself is intact. She is eating now.
People, is it necessary to charge the first 16 hours? The light is already green, so turn on the hotza
Rita
Necessarily !!!! And such a long charge must be done at least 3 times in a row after the battery is completely discharged. Otherwise, the battery will not reach full capacity and will run to charge every 10 minutes.
fogee
Quote: Rita

Necessarily !!!! And such a long charge must be done at least 3 times in a row after the battery is completely discharged.Otherwise, the battery will not reach full capacity and will run to charge every 10 minutes.
No, this is an exaggeration. There is no need for amateur performance - everything is provided by the manufacturer. If a robot needs a 16-hour charge, it will start it, for this it has a bunch of sensors and a microprocessor. When I bought myself Rumba, I still did not know the nuances of charging and did not charge it for so long. And until now, the robot cleans up to 3 rooms and does not run to charge every 10 minutes. Remember: the best is the enemy of the good!
fogee
Quote: mowgli

I really want to buy a washing option, but the price of "heels" is coming
Buy then Mint, it is cheaper and already an iRobot too.
niamka
And for me Rumba 521 worked fine since April. And recently, something will work for about 10 minutes and for charging. As if he lacks a charge. I don’t understand what’s the matter, it’s always connected to the battery. Maybe someone had this? The warranty has not yet come out.
Rita
niamka , this model has the simplest battery that needs to be charged only after it is completely discharged. If you put it to charge under-discharged, then its capacity begins to drop rapidly, and accordingly the operating time.

niamka
Rita, I did not know that. What to do now? To buy a new battery when this one completely deteriorates or to take it for repairs under warranty?
Rita
I don't even know what the warranty workshop will tell you about this. As a rule, the attitude towards batteries is special - the instructions do not write how to charge it correctly, so that people quickly spoil them and buy new ones. And they, as a rule, are not subject to guarantees.
Lucha
Quote: niamka

Rita, I did not know that. What to do now? To buy a new battery when this one completely deteriorates or to take it for repairs under warranty?
The batteries are only guaranteed for 6 months. Your warranty seems to be over.
niamka
Lucha, yes, it is over. And he hasn't run out of steam yet. Well, I will wait to the last and save money for a new battery. Looked, it costs 3,500 without delivery.
Aygul
Quote: Rita

niamka , this model has the simplest battery that needs to be charged only after it is completely discharged. If you put it to charge under-discharged, then its capacity begins to drop rapidly, and accordingly the operating time.
Wait, I don’t understand something. Can't he be allowed to charge, even if he ran all over the apartment? Forced to force more work? Or how?
lesik_l
Here, read


Charging the Battery in the iRobot Roomba

Very often, surfing the Internet, I find people asking questions about why the Roomba (aka Rumba) vacuum cleaner behaves strangely with a good battery. In order to understand where the legs grow from frequently occurring problems, let's try at an amateur level to figure out how the battery charges inside the vacuum cleaner.

Suppose you have inserted a new (or old) battery into your vacuum cleaner and connected a charger to it (to the vacuum cleaner). The first thing a vacuum cleaner does is check its systems (we're not interested in that). Next, he see what is the voltage of the inserted battery. If the voltage is higher than 12 * volts, then standard, fast charging begins. If the battery voltage is below 12 volts *, Roomba will begin a trickle charge for 18 * hours.

If the battery is too discharged (voltage <12V), it means that it was stored in a discharged state for a long time or something else unpleasant happened to it. Therefore, a long charge with a low current should lead to the restoration of "ailing" battery cells. It is very important that you do not interrupt the 18-hour * charge. After all, if you disconnect the rumba from charging for a second, then reconnecting it will start the charging cycle again, that is, checking all systems, then measuring the voltage on the battery ... lasted only a few minutes, it doesn't matter, in the first minutes the charge goes with a significant increase in the voltage on the battery) and Rumba will begin a standard charge cycle. That is, a large current (about 1250mA).
Advice: if you put the rumba on the charging base and see from the indicator that the 18 *-hour charging process has started (the charge indicator blinks very often), then you can try to immediately remove the rumba from the charge and connect the charger plug to the rumba directly. This is done so that someone does not accidentally "kick" the rumba with his foot and interrupt the "life-giving" exercise.

If everything is in order and the initial voltage is normal, then the charge with a large current will go according to the -dV algorithm.

The principle of operation of the -dV - algorithm can be simplified as follows: It is known that after installing an empty battery for charging, at first, the voltage rises very quickly. Then the growth slows down and most of the process, the voltage on the battery rises evenly slowly. But closer to the end of the charge (that is, closer to the saturation of the battery), the voltage begins to grow much faster, then the growth slows down, stops completely and the voltage begins to fall. This peak "acceleration of voltage growth-stabilization-decrease" is what the algorithm catches. But the fact is that also at this very moment, the charging efficiency is rapidly falling and the energy that was previously used to charge the battery now begins to simply turn into heat and the batteries are rapidly heating up. Then -dV - the algorithm completely stops the supply of charging current to the battery, allows it to cool down to 34 * degrees (or a maximum of 2 hours), then the charger turns on again, but in the TRICKLE CHARGE mode - that is, "drip charge" when the charge is supplied with an extremely low current. So small that it does not heat up the batteries excessively. The batteries cool down, the voltage on them drops and it turns out that the battery is far from 100% charged. Firstly, due to the fact that the temperature has dropped. Secondly, due to the fact that some battery cells might not have time to fully charge ... And this drip charge allows you to slowly top up the battery charge to 100%. If we assume that, following the results of a quick charge, the 3.3Ah battery is 70% charged, then it is easy to calculate that 70% of the 3300mAh is 2310mAh. Then the remaining 990mAh will be "refilled" for more than 20 hours !!!! After all, the trickle charge runs with a current of only 50mAh and its efficiency is much less than 100%.

That is why it is believed that rumba should never be removed from the charge. After all, when the charging indicator turns green, it means that only the fast charge mode is stopped, but then, after cooling down, the charge will continue in the Trickle-charge mode (trickle charge). And even when the batteries are 100% charged (and this can happen even after three days), it is still not worth removing Rumba from the charge for two reasons:
Rumba, even when turned off, is quite power hungry for batteries. After all, many write that a charged Rumba, left overnight without charging, may be discharged by morning. This is exaggerated, but not far from the truth.
Even if Rumba did not use the battery charge, the battery itself has a self-discharge. That is, it itself is very slow, but discharges.

And so, in order to compensate for these 2 reasons, let's remember: the rumba should always be on charge. If you leave the house and, for fire safety reasons, want to disconnect the charger, then it is advisable to remove the battery from the rumba for the first reason described above.

Now let's talk about the fact that Rumba "gets used" to the battery. That is, it accumulates information about how much it was charged, how much it was charged, possibly stores information about the temperature of the battery ... This information is hidden behind the wilds of secrecy, but one can speculate.
Let's go back to the beginning of the article and remember that we inserted a new battery into Rumba. Or old. Let's dump in Rumba information about how much and how this battery she charged and discharged. To do this, in the 400 series, you need to remove the battery, press and hold the POWER button for more than 5 seconds, release and then insert the battery. All history of past charges will be deleted. We put the rumba on charge for the 3rd day. Information about 3 days was taken from the forums. Official information says "leave it overnight".According to my personal observations, "at night" may not be enough. I recommend charging a full 24 hours. This will give us 100% charge in 99% of cases. Then the Runet tells us that we need to remove the auto-charging station from the room (so that the vacuum cleaner itself does not come to charge) and turn on the rumba to work with the MAX button (that is, vacuum until the battery is completely depleted). If there is no MAX button, but there is a DOCK button, then press it. Rumba will search in vain for the charging station (which we sadists have previously removed) until the charge is completely depleted. At the same time it vacuums. If there is no DOCK button, then just turn on the vacuum cleaner over and over again until it says that the battery is completely discharged. Vacuum as many rooms as possible at a time.
After the battery has run out completely, reconnect the charging plug to the bearing and charge it again for at least 24 hours. Having done this procedure several times, you will accustom Rumba to this battery. She will know how much charge to expect from him. When, during operation, turn on the yellow indicator, and when the red one. By the way. The first time I gave Rumba my homemade battery after the reset, she was vacuuming with a green indicator until it turned off. That is, the green glowed, glowed and bam ... blinked red to the sad four-note melody. That's it, the battery is dead, and Rumba did not expect this. After the second cycle, it was the other way around: Rumba, turned on immediately after a 24 hour charge cycle, showed a yellow indicator. And only after the third or fifth cycle did the indicator work as it should. First green, then yellowish, yellow, orange, red (when the rumba is still vacuuming and in between times looking for a charging station) and only then blinking red (when the rumba does not move).
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- how to properly charge the battery
Well


DIY Battery for Rumba with your own hands

I scoured the internet for a long time looking for a recipe for making a rumba battery.

Usually it is easier for people: they have an old, dead battery and they only need to replace separately only the dead or even all the cells. And you do not need to bother with fixing the batteries in the rumba ... to find a thermistor ...
It was more difficult for me. I ordered my iRobot Roomba in a used form and without a battery at all. And I didn't want to order a new battery until I checked the performance of the vacuum cleaner itself ... And you can't check a vacuum cleaner without a battery. Well, you get the idea.

Therefore, in a local wholesaler, I bought 12 AA batteries for 2100mAh. And he took not simple NiMh, but the so-called. AlwaysReady: low self-discharge batteries. They say that they have less drawdown under load, more ability to hold a high charge current, longer service life ... etc.
There were also 2300mAh options, but they were significantly (and disproportionately) more expensive. And also there are rumors that more capacious batteries have a higher voltage drop under heavy load.

Further, in the Engels store of radio components, 2 special boxes of Russian production were bought for 15 rubles. I don't know what they are called. Each box allows you to insert 6 AA batteries / accumulators into it and get 7.2V in the case of batteries or 9V in the case of batteries at the output of their boxes.
T. about. 2 boxes of 7.2V gave just the 14.4V we needed (well, yes ... in the original battery there are also 12 cells of 1.2V).
I’ll quickly go over the fact that I "threw out" these boxes due to their incompetence and a friend brought me from Saratov of better quality, Chinese for 25 rubles.
Having soldered the boxes sequentially, I soldered them with wires to the connector of the rumba itself, and fixed them in the battery compartment "in the spacer" by inserting several pieces of cardboard wrapped with electrical tape.

All right. The batteries, when charged in an external charger, pushed the rumba perfectly. But they categorically refused to charge in it. Rather, Roomba itself refused to "feed" them. Although I tried to connect the charger connector to the rumba. Although I "parked" it at the auto-charging station ... The "DOCKED" light came on on the auto-charge, and the charging lamp on the rumba did not blink.Then, in the same radio parts store, a 10kΩ thermistor was bought and soldered between the negative contact and the contact of the rumba temperature sensor. Charging is on! I don’t know: maybe because the thermal sensor is "not native" and its characteristics are slightly different from the required ones, or maybe because the finger batteries are much smaller than the native ones, but at first, when charging, they warmed up to about 70 degrees Celsius. Then (maybe because the rumba got used to them?) The maximum temperature became about 60g, which is already tolerable and does not smell so much of burned electrical tape.
If we take not 12, but 24 batteries, and put them 12 in parallel, then the load on them will drop 2 times, and the temperature should drop significantly, but now I can not find exactly the same batteries anywhere in Engels / Saratov to double the capacity of my battery. Now, having paid about 1000 rubles for a homemade rechargeable battery, I have a capacity of 2100mAh and about 45 minutes of work on velvety linoleum or about 30 minutes of work on a carpet. If you double the number of batteries, then I hope that the runtime can even triple, since the load on the cells will be less and the drawdown under load will also decrease. So the continuation (and addition of photos) follows.
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- the battery can be made by hand

There are also articles about the very device of our battery, but the main thing in them is to let the vacuum cleaner work until it is completely discharged, otherwise the battery will quickly fail.
Rapunzel
Need help from knowledgeable people. Our good friend brought himself a Rumba-770 from America. He listened to us - ardent deviceaholics. But we personally don't have a robot, it's somehow irrelevant for a one-room apartment, although we really want to. And he had both space and curiosity. In general, he brought it and immediately burned the adapter, not seeing that it was not suitable for our networks. Input parameters of the slain: 120 V / 60 Hz, output parameters 22.5 V 1.25 A. Tell me where to look for a replacement adapter now? Rumbik was not injured.
kolenko
Rapunzel! I dictate the characteristics of the adapter with which my American girl lives: 220v to 110v up to 50watts max, its name is nexxtech.
Rapunzel
Lenochka, thank you very much. And you can ask to look on the adapter itself, what is written next to the word output? The spouse says that this is important for the safety of the battery.
kolenko
Here. Pardonte that's upside down
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Rapunzel
What cool responsive girls we have on the forum, well, just. Helen, you are a miracle! ... I finished with the photo. This is your adapter and without it in our latitudes lowering. I will show him for identification - to buy it !!! And now I understand that he ignited the power cord (adapter) between the base and the outlet by putting it into the outlet without a rechargeable adapter. I don't know how to put it smartly. Now I'm thinking if there is some kind of petal filling in the base. On the subject - is there anything to burn.
IRR


Everyone

tomorrow I will be with Rumba 521 (the cheapest). I already read on the offsite that it needs to be charged for 16 hours, what else do you need to know? I've been saving up dirt since last year

I'll go to the topic for now.
Sens
Quote: IRR



Everyone

tomorrow I will be with Rumba 521 (the cheapest). I already read on the offsite that it needs to be charged for 16 hours, what else do you need to know? I've been saving up dirt since last year

I'll go to the topic for now.
Congratulations! common sense prevailed!
I may not remember exactly, but it seems like the first three times for 16 hours. and discharge completely.
for a lope took?
Rita
Quote: IRR

mind yes ... although under highly big pressure of the office. dealer :) and after a wide virtual excursion to a Chinese plant for the production of Rumb.

450 ue (approximately)

all ATP for the answers
And share the link with your friends? We also want a free tour!

For battery charging, see the Soussed topic about Rumba - there they gave a link to an excellent article on this subject.
Rapunzel
Quote: IRR

tomorrow I will be with Rumba 521 (the cheapest). I already read on the offsite that it needs to be charged for 16 hours, what else do you need to know? I've been saving up dirt since last year
IRR Congratulations! I also want it. I don’t know if this is from device addiction or from laziness.
Sens
in this case, it makes sense to immediately test the purchase.
they tested the operation of the motors and the battery. but I bought in Moscow. there is a shop and service. center nearby, tested on request.
Rapunzel
Quote: IRR


Rapunzel, listen .. it's certainly not a pancake maker, but wait, I'll get it tomorrow, then if we send anything to Russia
It is, of course, not a pancake maker, but rather a pancake collector. In Russia, as I understand it, of. dealers only in Moscow and St. Petersburg. And shipment from friendly Ukraine will not solve the problem of the service center. My husband can order it in America. He often organizes joint purchases for colleagues on e-bay. But how can you strangle a toad? IRR, you better write about everything, about everything, about everything !!! Or maybe I don't just want it, but I need it.
z_alice
Quote: Rapunzel

Need help from knowledgeable people. Our good friend brought himself a Rumba-770 from America. He listened to us - ardent deviceaholics. But we personally don't have a robot, it's somehow irrelevant for a one-room apartment, although we really want to. And he had both space and curiosity. In general, he brought it and immediately burned the adapter, not seeing that it was not suitable for our networks. Input parameters of the slain: 120 V / 60 Hz, output parameters 22.5 V 1.25 A. Tell me where to look for a replacement adapter now? Rumbik was not injured.
Rumba even in America are equipped with two types of dapters - 110 V and 110-250V. Read carefully what is written on your
fogee
Quote: lesik_l

On e-bay, Rumba 555 was $ 199. Well, plus shipping about $ 50-60 is still profitable.
So if there is an opportunity it is worth buying there. True, it was before the New Year. I don’t know now.
Unfortunately, I haven't noticed 555s for a week at all. By 199 I somehow did not notice (with the closest attention). Maybe it wasn't new? Be careful! Or in the auction, but long before their end.

So, I looked. For the entire December, prices were from 269 to 299, one at 225 and one at 235 (do not forget about shipping) and it is very good luck to buy at such a price (competitors are the whole world). The rest - the price is the same as here. Better then at the officials. Rather, prices for the fifth series will continue to grow, because it has not been produced for six months. I didn't manage to get hold of anything sensible
fogee
Quote: IRR



Everyone

tomorrow I will be with Rumba 521 (the cheapest). I already read on the offsite that it needs to be charged for 16 hours, what else do you need to know? I've been saving up dirt since last year

I'll go to the topic for now.
A few pages ago we discussed the 521 and its battery. Be careful, otherwise buying a new battery will negate all your savings. But a very correct decision in terms of guarantee and service, which can only be provided by officials. Congratulations on your purchase!
mowgli
Irr, with a purchase !!! I have the most budgetary Rumba, plows like dad Carlo, licks up all the crumbs and candy wrappers, has been working for me since May ... everything suits me in him !!!
lina
IRR, congratulations! I have 780, already vacuumed three times

OFF I read yesterday about rumba in the internet. and my big vacuum cleaner is thomas twin tt, such a good animal, eight years old. and I come across a review scolding rumba and in ps scolding Thomas as well (like mine) - like, it's worth it, you need to wash him for an hour, etc. Well, I concluded that rumba will take root among my favorite devices ...
fogee
Quote: Vitalinka

IRR, accept my congratulations too! I will be happy for you
Irisha, write more about the new assistant! I also dream about it!
Why only Irisha? There are many of us here, the owners of robot assistants! And even more sympathizers and those who are going to make such an acquisition and, therefore, are well versed in the topic. Let's talk together!
Here in my thread yesterday I shared a photo of the results of regular cleaning:

Rumba - robot vacuum cleaner for dry cleaning
Parallel
Hello! I have been thinking for a long, long time whether I need a robot vacuum cleaner, that is, I need something for sure, I hate to clean, but I doubt whether any of the existing ones will cope with my house. maybe you will dispel my doubts, and you can start saving for a new assistant))) We have two floors, plus a bathhouse and a rest room in the basement, respectively stairs. The covering is mainly tile-laminate, carpet in the bedroom and a small rug in the nursery.There are practically no doors on the ground floor and the space turns out to be large, how many I will not say for sure, but in the living room there are 36 squares, plus the kitchen, the entrance hall is quite large, the dining room - and there is still a small sill, I'm afraid that the charge will not be enough and it will simply be lost in our bends - cornering. On the second floor there is a corridor, a bedroom, a nursery, a large balcony, and a bathroom. The staircase is steep, I'm very afraid that the vacuum cleaner will come off it, especially when it will drive to clean between the balusters. maybe there is some model that will successfully overcome all this?
Andrey_robo
Quote: Parallel

Hello! I have been thinking for a long, long time whether I need a robot vacuum cleaner, that is, I need something for sure, I hate to clean, but I doubt whether any of the existing ones will cope with my house. maybe you will dispel my doubts, and you can start saving for a new assistant))) We have two floors, plus a bathhouse and a rest room in the basement, respectively stairs. The covering is mainly tile-laminate, carpet in the bedroom and a small rug in the nursery. There are practically no doors on the ground floor and the space turns out to be large, how many I will not say for sure, but in the living room there are 36 squares, plus the kitchen, the entrance hall is quite large, the dining room - and there is still a small sill, I'm afraid that the charge will not be enough and it will simply be lost in our bends - cornering. On the second floor there is a corridor, a bedroom, a nursery, a large balcony, and a bathroom. The staircase is steep, I'm very afraid that the vacuum cleaner will come off it, especially when it will drive to clean between the balusters. maybe there is some model that will successfully overcome all this?

Hello. More and more often people come across with such luxurious conditions, so I can offer you several options for purchase (all have already been tried by our clients with similar houses):
1) The most luxurious option - 2 devices for each floor.
Depending on the budget, I advise:
a) 2 x iRobot 620.With 620, you will most likely have to be smart on the floors, since they are not globally oriented in space and may not be able to master the floor at a time, that is, you will have to divide the floor into zones and clean each in turn, and move the devices from zone to zone independently. Pros: the cheapest and working version of two robots, excellent cleaning quality - it is difficult to find analogues from budget robots. Cons: the need to control robots on the floor, outdated filters
b) 2 x iRobot 780 - on each floor you will need to place beacons and install bases. Cleaning will be done without your control. Pros: no need to drag robots from floor to floor, minimal control over devices, very high-quality cleaning and air filtration. Cons: debt cleaning and the price of robots.
c) 2 x Neato XV-21. He builds a map of the room himself and removes the rooms one by one. Pros: very fast (in comparison with Ayrobot) cleaning, lower price than that of Rumba 780. Cons: the quality of cleaning in one pass is lower, very noisy.

2) One unit - the aforementioned Roomba 780 or Neato XV-21. The second, probably, will be even better, taking into account the fact that it is not necessary to carry and arrange lighthouses from floor to floor.

For 780 Rumba, Rumba 620/630 you can see the tests 🔗
The Neato XV-21 is not there yet, but there is a similar model of the XV-15 - they have approximately the same movement logic.
Smoke
Gulya, good afternoon! I was also afraid that the robot would not cope with the area, but the seller immediately warned me (for which a special thanks to him) that with my 120 sq. m. (only on one floor) hardly anyone can handle it! I also have laminate tiles, no carpets or animals. And I clean in two passes - first the second floor, then, after charging the battery, the first. So that the robot does not get confused in the complex geometry of the house, and I was probably sure that he removed everything, I close it in turn in each room. Then I rearrange it to another. But this is only if Wa can come in handy if you, like me, are a housewife. If not, then you need to contact the seller directly and discuss all the points that interest you.
On my own behalf, I’m very pleased with the purchase. (I have a simple model, 620) I have never been an asshole, but the robot that works every day collects so much dust, especially on the second floor, where all the bedrooms are: family: which is not at ease becomes. On the surface, everything is clean, but in fact, it turns out, not quite!
So, who else is thinking whether to take or not to take, I think we must take! This is a real helper. He works like a bee (my husband even feels sorry for him, he says, they say, give him at least a day to rest).
And also, it seems to me, it is ideal for allergy sufferers (who are allergic to dust), he really collects a lot of it.
Good luck to everyone in your choice!
Parallel
Thank you very much for your advice, helped a little to figure out what's what))
Andrey_robo , such chic conditions))) my husband created for me - he is a builder for me, he did everything to the last brick))) Two robotic vacuum cleaners are just an unattainable dream, unfortunately for me (so far, maybe something for the better and will change from time))) Therefore, exactly one.
Smokewhile I'm a housewife, on maternity leave with my second child, and I think that if my cakes go to order, I will remain her))) in your version, I am confused by the absence of doors and the complex geography of the first floor, I cannot close it in the room Unfortunately.
Andrey_robo , I was interested in the option with Neato - especially that he builds a map of the room himself and does not need to wear anything. And how many squares does he remove on one charge and approximately how much time? Well, for example, 80 hours for an hour and a half, will he clean up the squares while we walk with the children? (I really do not want to listen to howling))). Yes, and how much does this miracle of technology cost, do you need to buy any consumables for it?
Smoke
Gulya, we have no doors on the ground floor either. Only in the kitchen and in the dignity. node. The hall turns out to be combined with a corridor and a patch in front of the stairs to the second floor. And since my model is without a virtual wall, I came up with a wall myself - I move a huge floor pot into the opening where the robot does not need to go. Yes, it may be a little confusing, but it works.
And I rejected the Neato robot because it does not have a side brush, and I assumed that the quality of cleaning would be worse (in the corners), although, of course, I could be wrong!
Parallel
Unfortunately, you can't block our openings with anything (((our arches are wide, you definitely can't put anything there, and the terrain is confusing))) Smoke how many squares can Rumba remove at a time? And how long does it take?
annnushka27
I, too, are slowly looking at such a vacuum cleaner, the conditions, of course, are not as luxurious as in Parallel, but not small, too, almost the entire first floor without doors, openings, up to 2 meters. I just thought, but if you adapt some kind of board, a stick, put it in the openings to the full width, as an obstacle, will it help?
Omela
Oh, but I have no conditions! One carpet 2x3. But I also want to. I will press my husband on others. I understand that you can limit yourself to the 5th series ?? But there are problems with brushes, and we have a lot of hair.
Smoke
Gulya, well, on the first floor I have 80 sq. m., cleans up at a time. Now my battery lasts longer, almost 2 hours, maybe because it's new, but so far. But on the second floor (120 sq. M.) It happens that he does not have time to clean the dressing room (17 sq. M.), He dies there. (But he cleans up the playroom for a very long time, there the children have toys arranged, everything is on floor, all these houses for Barbie, a tent, there is no way to remove all this, so he knocks from one obstacle to another)
And as for the independently invented obstacles, then, in theory, you can adapt anything: if the openings are wide, then you can adapt the stick, the main thing is that it is higher, otherwise Rumbik can safely move right over it!
Smoke
Quote: Omela

Oh, but I have no conditions! One carpet 2x3. But I also want to. I will press my husband into others. I understand that you can limit yourself to the 5th series ?? But there are problems with brushes, and we have a lot of hair.

Omela., once I had such conditions, the room was only 17 sq. m., and somehow the four of us existed there. I could not even think that such happiness in the form of a house could fall on me.
So, as they say, on your street too Kamaz with gingerbread will turn over! there will be a holiday!
Smoke
Well, if I understood correctly, then the 5th episode is gone, the 6th has replaced it. I have just the simplest model of the 6th series - 620. It seems like the brushes have been improved (there is some kind of cap on the side, like on the 7th series), and the garbage container is slightly different. We also have a lot of hair, everything, as if for a selection, the hairy ones were caught, although it is easy to clean the side brush from the hair, but it’s necessary to take a screwdriver, and this is already unnecessary body movements. And so, the hair is easily removed from the brushes with a special device!
Omela
Smoke, thanks! Googled .. like they are selling 5 more. At the price I found 620 - 12900 rubles. And where do people buy? On which website?

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