Bread maker - dough mixer

Well, good luck in baking!

Thank you, by the way, and what is the complexity of hearth bread as opposed to pan bread? What difference does it make what to put in the oven?

what to put - there is no difference. the difference is that it will be taken out of there

with a hearth, you need to get a handle on it so that the shape is perfect. with a mold, this problem with a certain experience is not - nevertheless, the mold keeps the dough within the framework

I am against a dishwasher only for one reason - you need to use special detergents in it, and I do not use them for washing dishes. And so there is enough of all sorts of nasty things that we use with food, etc. But this is another topic

what to put - there is no difference. the difference is that it will be taken out of there

Clear.

I am against the dishwasher only for one reason - you need to use special products in it,

That is why we only wash dishes with laundry soap.

And in the current household. soap, too, has enough of any chemistry. It is best to use mustard powder and baking soda.

And in the current household. soap, too, has enough of any chemistry. It is best to use mustard powder and baking soda.

We use baby Stork without any chemicals.
And your recipe is interesting. I'll have to try. Does fat wash well?

And you read its composition. I read

Mustard powder removes fat even in cold water. Baking soda cleans more, whitens and removes odors.

A decoction of potato peels washes well any contaminated dishes. Potato peelings are boiled for poultry or other cattle, and any, even very heavily soiled, dishes are perfectly washed with the broth.

And you read its composition. I read

I read:
Sodium salts of fatty acids of natural fats and oils, water, glycerin, sodium chloride, antioxidant, titanium dioxide.
So what?

I have no doubt that the soap contains artificial glycerin, and not natural, that is, already a chemical substance. Well, titanium dioxide does not cause pleasure. Of course, the composition of this soap looks better on paper than others. But I am sure that there is a lot that is not specified there. Although we have not yet added something to our food, the same glycerin, for example.

Although we have not yet added something to our food, the same glycerin, for example.

and titanium dioxide too

Generally bought today Redmond RBM-1901
Functionally quite decent device. Sea trials began with batching.

What good fellows, congratulations!
Let the bread maker serve you for a long time and faithfully!
Delicious bread to you!

Thank you, but we will bake delicious bread in the oven, and the oven was bought as a gift to my mother-in-law in Surgut. They don't have a proper oven.

The batch went well. Only a little overshot with flour, I had to add. Gingerbread man, of course, is not yeast. Wheat bread with rye sourdough.
They baked for an hour 25 minutes on the baking mode. Let's go back from the sacrament and look at the result.

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=83783.0
Another "miracle of hostile technology" is a multicooker from the same Redmond.

And here is the bread result. Let me remind you that this is wheat flour made from M-55-23 flour with rye sourdough. Taste quality is quite, and no worse than an oven. Either it turned out so well the first time (good stove), or we haven’t learned how to bake correctly in the oven yet; They say that bread should turn out better in the oven ...

Thank you, but we will bake delicious bread in the oven, and the oven was bought as a gift to my mother-in-law in Surgut.

Duc, maybe leave yourself, if you like it?

Duc, maybe leave yourself, if you like it?

Well, in general, I like it and the price is not high, but still the size is large. Yes, and functionally repeat. In fact, with a good oven and a great mixer, this device only takes up space in the kitchen and is suitable for lazy little families. And if necessary, bake two or three breads at once, it starts to lose.

takes up space in the kitchen and is suitable for lazy small families.

may I ask, is the washing machine also for lazy families? or is this a reason to ask for forgiveness today?

In fact, with a good oven and a great mixer, this device only takes up space in the kitchen and is suitable for lazy little families.

- this site is completely for lazy people and how did you get into this swamp

- this site is completely for lazy people and how did you get into this swamp

in-in. And a computer with the Internet too. It's easier to go to the library.

Well, in general, I like it and the price is not high, but still the size is large. Yes, and functionally repeat. In fact, with a good oven and a great mixer, this device only takes up space in the kitchen and is suitable for lazy little families. And if necessary, bake two or three breads at once, it starts to lose.

Again twenty five

Well, yes, well, yes, of course, so that the Internet, telly, HP are at hand, a pressure cooker-cartoon to her, well, there is a mixer again! And so - no, I personally do not agree, in the village or in the forest without anything!

may I ask, is the washing machine also for lazy families? or is this a reason to ask for forgiveness today?

Washing is perhaps a harsh necessity today, especially if there are many people in the family. It is not for nothing that laundries were so widespread in the last century. But the dishwasher is definitely for the lazy, and I don’t remember the dishwashing points either.
In short, everything must be correlated based on labor costs and time. You can wash in a large family endlessly, but washing dishes practically takes very little time, as well as baking bread. This is a lot of fuss with pies and other food.
Well, you should always ask for forgiveness, and not just today and even without a reason.
As I remember, one elder said: "If you are not guilty, ask for forgiveness ..."
It would seem for what ... But the fact is that there are no innocent, acre angels. At least for the fact that, by being right, he embarrassed the brother / sister, unbalanced, and so on.

So, forgive me, dear brothers and sisters, if anyone has been unwittingly offended or hurt.

- this site is completely for lazy people and how did you get into this swamp

Lazy and lazy are different concepts. In fact, laziness is the engine of progress. It is inherent in everyone and always. And if you fight it, it does not cause any special problems.
And the site is good and the people here are good, you shouldn't be so!
And not everyone even has bread makers ...

and finally it's better to live in the village, carry water from a well, and heat the stove with wood .. and wash in a bath

It’s true. Yes, only for many today this is a pipe dream, alas.
I think that we have lost more than we gained.

Girls, what have you swooped down, sharpened beaks - a person lives by the rules - work for the sake of work!
My mother has lived like this all her life, and I respect her for that, I don't know how.
It's just that our rules are different.

What are yours? What are you living for? Or rather, what you know how to live for. OR For whom?
Actually, there has been an answer to this question for a long time. Read Ecclesiastes.

So, forgive me, dear brothers and sisters, if anyone has been unwittingly offended or hurt.

God forgive you!

And then the TV is evil .. the bread maker is for lazy people, and the Internet is just a holy place, you might think

I don't have a TV set, and the Internet today is nothing more than a means of communication and obtaining information. A vivid confirmation of this is your site. Thanks to everyone who created it and generously shares their experience on it.
But it is not worth making fun of. This is not respect for the interlocutor, his views and life position.On the contrary, it is worth looking for what is useful for you in what is alien and not clear to you. This is how a person's personal growth takes place.
Once again, for God's sake, forgive me. There is not even a shadow of intention to teach someone something here.

Washing is perhaps a harsh necessity today, especially if there are many people in the family. It is not for nothing that laundries were so widespread in the last century. But the dishwasher is definitely for the lazy, and I don’t remember the dishwashing points either.

This is almost always said by those who have not yet purchased a dishwasher or have not had the opportunity to try it in their everyday life. After the purchase, they begin to say that it is good. Everything is relative.

I don't have a TV set, and the Internet today is nothing more than a means of communication and obtaining information. A vivid confirmation of this is your site.

Sly. What you consider useful and interesting for yourself - justify and justify globally. That, the usefulness for yourself personally has not yet been understood or tested - you also globally refute it.
For example, I immediately justified the need for a dishwasher by freeing up a large amount of my personal time. For example, reading or studying with children. I find it more beneficial than standing over the sink.

This is what those who haven’t bought a dishwasher yet say. After buying, I start to say that it is good.

It is clear that everything that makes life easier for a person and actually encourages his laziness is perceived by him as "good". Is this really the question is not simple and serious enough. For example, a lot of delicious food seems to be good, but should I explain to you the consequences of irrepressibility in this matter.
So here it is probably important to find the golden mean, the "royal path".
Another example, the whole civilized world travels by elevators, by transport and at the same time goes to fitness on exercise equipment such as a track or a step. Where is the logic?

I think it is right to get rid of constant, primitive and little-meaning labor. Be it washing, washing dishes, floors, collecting dust, ironing, etc. While men read Ecclesiastes, women were always busy with fleeting things: cooked, ate, cleaned, swirled, washed, smeared, etc. And so on without stopping. Enough. I also need time for ... at the moment for Tolstoy. Therefore, I will wash in the washer, wash the dishes in the dishwasher, wash and vacuum the floors with robots, knead the dough in HP. What I wish other women from the bottom of my heart.

Forgive my dullness, SHO TSE TAKE?

Do you really not know, or are you pretending to be a teapot?

While the men read Ecclesiastes ...

Are they sure they are reading?

Here, in short!

: -How, I feel that this will be the second banned topic after * choosing stoves *. Toka Marusya will taxi up. And we will all be assembled.

Irr, and we, it seems, had a Temka, where everyone described the usefulness-uselessness of kitchen devices ... here we all go ... otherwise I'm already tired of laughing reading the thread ...

A xn \ dough mixer is a useful thing.

Yes, Verniy, to read you like this is a man of ancient years, this is when the patriarchy of the type was .. let a strong wife knead, carry the children on herself for many kilometers, let him plow, otherwise he will be lazy, and I will be a hard worker using the means of communication and rein in dissent.

Girls, and in Israel, they also want to make March 8 a holiday, but the most important thing is that only for women a day off, and men will work

I consider it right to get rid of constant, primitive and little-meaning labor. Be it washing, washing dishes, floors, collecting dust, ironing, etc. While men read Ecclesiastes, women were always busy with fleeting things: cooked, ate, cleaned, swirled, washed, smeared, etc. And so on without stopping. Enough. I also need time for ... at the moment for Tolstoy. Therefore, I will wash in the washer, wash the dishes in the dishwasher, wash and vacuum the floors with robots, knead the dough in HP. What I wish other women from the bottom of my heart.

Your choice.
Let's just say, I wash the dishes myself. And therefore I give only those recommendations for which I am responsible. As for work, this is an almost philosophical question and I see that you are not very sophisticated in it. Perhaps instead of [Tolstoy, you should still read Ecclisiastes or some of the philosophers. Perhaps your attitude towards work will change. In any case, I dare to assert that "primitive and little-meaning labor" does not exist. And if you consider any of the actions as such, most likely you are not thoughtful enough about it and cannot find the meaning in it. He is, take my word for it. Perhaps the keyword for your search may be the word "meditation".

Do you really not know, or are you pretending to be a teapot?

Chessword.
Well, I can't know everything.
You can throw a link in the internet, I'll get acquainted.

Here, in short!

It's just Clara Zetkin's birthday.

A xn \ dough mixer is a useful thing.

Helpful, who argued.
The conversation is not about usefulness, but about the NECESSITY.
The world becomes redundant, we lose our survival skills. And if something like a power outage happens, we'll just die of hunger. Didn't this simple thought occur to you? Doesn't scare. But the scenario may not be so distant. See what's going on in the world.

Your choice.
Let's just say, I wash the dishes myself. And therefore I give only those recommendations for which I am responsible. As for work, this is an almost philosophical question and I see that you are not very sophisticated in it. Perhaps instead of [Tolstoy, you should still read Ecclisiastes or some of the philosophers. Perhaps your attitude towards work will change. In any case, I dare to assert that "primitive and little-meaning labor" does not exist. And if you consider any of the actions as such, most likely you are not thoughtful enough about it and cannot find the meaning in it. He is, take my word for it. Perhaps the keyword for your search may be the word "meditation".

That's it. My choice. You pass off your choice and your picture of the world as the truth. Reckless and very subjective.

I want to choose the subject and purpose of my work. And in the modern world I have such an opportunity, unlike my ancestors. Perhaps you should buy a dishwasher instead of washing dishes. And your attitude towards dishwashing will change. But I still prefer Tolstoy.

Meditation is wonderful. Only in a day there are only 24 hours. I am at a loss, what should I choose: washing floors, washing shirts or meditation?

If the power goes out, will I die washing dishes by hand? Or from hand kneading dough? Believe it or not, I'll even crush the grain, I can. These are too simple skills to lose. And to apply the philosophy of survival to them excessively.

Chessword.
Well, I can't know everything.
You can throw a link in the internet, I'll get acquainted.

You yourself asked for it - to scare you with Solomon's tales and, it seems, to position yourself as strongly believers! Go, for example, to the missionary portal to Deacon Kuraev; there you will find all the answers to these kinds of questions! This site is secular!

still Ecclesiastes or any of the philosophers.

Ecclesiastes - a philosopher? : swoon: actually, this is a book, not a philosopher. The author - presumably, but debatable - is Solomon.
In short, virgins, why are you all making noise, this is our man, from the kitchen.

We are all people from the kitchen here ... only each has its own kitchen, and its own worldview. Everything is like Delisle: "Any kind of garden is good because it corresponds to its owner. It is absurd to stick to one model - for the park of the king and the garden of the sage ....."
And we live peacefully without proving anything or imposing anything on anyone.

Girls, and in Israel, they also want to make March 8 a holiday, but the most important thing is that only for women a day off, and men will work

Class ...I've been wondering for a long time why all kinds of holidays are forcibly made holidays for everyone? After all, for example, in our country (where, by the way, the church is separated from the state) there are a lot of Catholics, Jews, Muslims, but there are all-state weekends on Orthodox and only on Orthodox main holidays. And there are people who do not belong to any religion at all. No, to make, say, five to seven holidays, to which a person is entitled according to his own choice. Communist? Celebrate yours on November 7, February 23, and something else ... Orthodox? Christmas, Easter, Veil ... Atheist? Yes, a choice - even if your birthday, wife and children, but you have the right to these days ...

Well, something like that ...

: -How, I feel that this will be the second banned topic after * choosing stoves *. Toka Marusya will taxi up. And we will all be assembled.

Finally, like into the water ...