MariV
Quote: IRR

then yes. Perfect, they say. I'm hanging around here because of these potatoes
Prr-a-a-vilno, IRRunchik, you are doing! I heat it almost every day in it - indeed, I don't need much oil. Today I will again fire the Jerusalem artichoke and kystybai. Tell me right away?
MariV
Quote: kubanochka

The bowl, in which everything happens, is removed and washed, the stirrer too. Nothing else comes into contact with oil there. The lid is simply wiped clean.
Lena, I don't put my stirrer in the PSM, as well as the bowl. The mixer for PSM is too big and clumsy, but my pin fell apart on the third day - I'm patiently waiting for a replacement. And the bowl, too, with my hands - nothing sticks to it yet, it washes easily under running water.
Catwoman
I watched this car again today, while I struggle with myself, but I think that I will lose the battle.
Apart from potatoes, what else can you cook there?
Nettle
I'm also interested in whether it is possible to bake meat in one piece in the unit, I consider it as an alternative to the oven ...
Lyi
And I still have such questions:
1. If you remove the scapula, can you fry the pasties in it?
2. Does the glass cover protect against fumes?
Please, answer the owners.
Irochka, Matroskin Kotik
how would this hybrid compare to an air fryer? If I'm not mistaken, you bought an air fryer before? Which one is better?
By the way, hello to the Northerners! : flowers: Let's get out of your Magadan, it's better in the South!
Sens
and what is the difference with Tefalevsky aktifri? other than price ...
lega
Quote: Sens

and what is the difference with Tefalevsky aktifri? other than price ...

Maybe I'm wrong, but Aktifray is a deep fryer, it has heating from below. Our hybrid is still an airfryer, it has halogen heating on top. Maybe there is heating from below, I don’t know yet, they should bring it to me only tomorrow. At Aktifray you can remove the lid and wash, here, as far as I understand, the lid is not removable, because there is a thermoelement. Aktifray's scapula rotates, and Our hybrid's bowl rotates (as Kubanochka wrote)
My opinion is that these are completely different devices ... they only have in common - one spoonful of oil per kilogram of potatoes.
Sens

Maybe I'm wrong, but Aktifray is a deep fryer, it has heating from below
no, there is also a hairdryer ...
mechanical frying pan with hair dryer inside

so maybe Tefalevsky is better ...
Nataly_rz
Sens I had to choose between three: Phillips air fryer, Aktifray and this hybrid. I wanted all three in turn, at the moment I stopped at Ves Electric.
I removed Phillips from the wishlist when I decided that mixing is all the same +, which does not need to be sacrificed.
BUT sometimes this very mixer is not needed, for example, I want to fry cutlets, cheesecakes, etc. in it. And in this case Aktifray is not suitable, because the air comes from one side, which means that it will be fried unevenly on a fixed surface, here it should help rotating bowl.
And even if you remove the mixer in Aktifray, then the hole turns out to be very large, that is, you will not be able to make Tortilla like Kubanochka
These are my conclusions, which I made based on the reviews found on the internet. Maybe I'm wrong about something, because I haven't used these devices live (I don't even have an airfryer)
Sens
Nataly_rz, Thank you! very detailed.
and when will you buy Weight Electric?
Nataly_rz
Alas Sens, here I will most likely disappoint you. I would very much like to, but something began to delay the salary, and other temporary troubles. I beat myself on the hands and persuade that now is not the time ... Maybe by the new year ...
Sens
Nataly_rz , and how much does VES SK-A cost in Ukraine?

if possible, in rubles.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Sens

Nataly_rz , and how much does VES SK-A14 cost in Ukraine?
I bought this multicooker last fall for 580 UAH. And recently I saw it in the same store for 650 UAH. The cartoon is cool.not a second did not regret buying it I compare it with the cartoon of my son Perfeza and I like mine better! Probably the only negative for some is that the extinguishing time and everything else is limited to 99 minutes, and then you need to run the program again. But it doesn't bother me at all. I cook jellied meat on gas, but there was no need for such a long use yet! By the way, it costs 24 hours in heating mode! =) I see you have a boxer. I envy we also had a boxer. Lived for 14 years! so it is not enough, but we cannot decide to start another one yet! It's always scary to compare her with her beloved girl ...
Sens
nvkSorry, I wanted to ask about the price of the VES SK-A Air Fryer.
but it turned out asked about the multicooker.

especially for you
New - Ves Electric SK-A - hybrid.

and do not be afraid that you will compare. I wanted to buy a slightly different type, but now I even forgot about it. Your words made me remember.
Nataly_rz
Quote: Sens

Nataly_rz , and how much does VES SK-A cost in Ukraine?

if possible, in rubles.
Sens, I haven't seen it live in stores, I found it on the internet for 1260 UAH, that's about 5 thousand rubles
Sens
Quote: Nataly_rz

Sens, I haven't seen it live in stores, I found it on the internet for UAH 1260, that's about 5 thousand rubles
about 5? what course is it?

I found it in the net for 3600. but it's in Moscow.
in sochi 4200
Nataly_rz
Well, yours is cheaper, so you definitely don't need to rush, maybe it will get cheaper here, the ruble to hryvnia exchange rate is now 1 RUR = 0.26 UAH, those. you need to divide / multiply by about 4
lega
Quote: Sens

about 5? what course is it?

I found it in the net for 3600. but it's in Moscow.
in sochi 4200

And I in St. Petersburg found an Internet store for 4160 rubles, called, asked to take the order, promised to call back the next day .. the next day the price on their website rose to 4600 rubles. found in another for 4230r. + delivery 400 rubles .... and in some stores the price is 6543 rubles. ( 🔗)

Quote: Nataly_rz

Well, yours is cheaper, so you definitely don't need to rush, maybe it will get cheaper here too

This is unlikely ... prices have already crept up after the summer ..
Sens
Quote: Nataly_rz

Well, yours is cheaper, so you definitely don't need to rush, maybe it will get cheaper here, too:
more likely we will rise in price!

And I found in St. Petersburg in an Internet store for 4160r
Do you shop in Moscow Internet shops?
🔗
but in St. Petersburg 🔗
lega
Quote: Sens

more likely we will rise in price!
Do you shop in Moscow's online stores?
🔗
but in St. Petersburg 🔗

Housebt does not carry to St. Petersburg ... here is a quote from their delivery: Delivery is carried out within the city of Moscow, as well as in Moscow, Smolensk, Tver, Yaroslavl, Vladimir, Ryazan, Tula, Kaluga regions up to 150 km. from the Moscow Ring Road.

The second link is interesting ... I ordered from them, only the price was different and the numbers in the corner blinked different too .. Tomorrow I'll try to bargain, if it works ..
Sens
Quote: lga

The second link is interesting ... I ordered them from them, only the price was different and the numbers in the corner blinked different too .. Tomorrow I'll try to bargain, if it works ..
they have pickup
lega
Quote: Sens

they have pickup

Why should I toil with self-pickup? They will bring them themselves. I can't pick it up, grab it, which I didn't intend .. delivery for the wallet will be more useful ..
lunova-moskalenko


especially for you
New - Ves Electric SK-A - hybrid.

and do not be afraid that you will compare. I wanted to buy a slightly different type, but now I even forgot about it. Your words made me remember.
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Such a sweet nose! Directly kissed for him! A young girl, maybe 2-3 years old?
lega
All! They brought it. In the evening I will master The question immediately ... Does it make a lot of noise during work? I turned it on for verification, it seemed to me that it was screaming loudly ... Or are all the airfryers not quiet?
MariV
This machine is not quiet ...
Sens
Quote: nvk


especially for you
New - Ves Electric SK-A - hybrid.

and do not be afraid that you will compare. I wanted to buy a slightly different type, but now I even forgot about it. Your words made me remember.

Such a sweet nose! Directly kissed for him! A young girl, maybe 2-3 years old?
I answered you in a personal.
lunova-moskalenko
Quote: Sens

I answered you in a personal.
I saw it, thanks!
lega
Today I tested my unit for the first time .... The impressions are ambiguous ...
I cooked pickled chicken breast, cut into strips, set the time 35 minutes. the pieces are tasty, but slightly dried. I also cooked zucchini, cut into thin slices. I liked the zucchini very much. It turned out not oiled, with a little crunch.
Immediately I note, and in my opinion, a solid drawback of this device - eerie sound... At the beginning of the work there was nothing, only a uniform hum, but somewhere, after about 15 minutes. strong rattling appears both times. It seemed to me that this is how the fan starts to work ... if you press down on the cover, where the thermoelement is with your hand, then this cry dies down, and so on until the fan turns off completely. Kubanochka, Mariv, is it the same with you? Or is it just that I had no luck with the unit? And yet ... a bunch accumulates near the mixer, it does not jump over the mixer itself until the spatula drives up and pushes ... Is this the case with you too?
Sens
it is necessary to compare the volume of work with Phillips ...
MariV
lega,
yes, it makes noise - I made a video especially for you - it does not load; take my word for it - it makes a lot of noise. And first he rakes up a bunch, and then smears it herself. I already do not pay attention to this. She, of course, fries potatoes well, almost without oil. Today I made a stelline cheesecake in it - very good! Now I will put the meat on the wire rack. Of course, not without technical flaws!
Chicken breast 35 minutes - probably a bit too much. 10-15 minutes will be enough. I did not fry pork in small pieces today for 20 minutes - it turned out very well.
rusja
They have already asked here, but I still do not understand - MEAT IN ONE PIECE, as for boiled pork, kg for 2, can you bake there?
MariV
Quote: rusja

They have already asked here, but I still do not understand - MEAT IN ONE PIECE, as for boiled pork, kg for 2, can you bake there?
No.
In answer No. 28 and in No. 40 of this topic, Kubanochka has already written about this.
rusja
Sad
Although they may also design something similar, with the wishes of the workers, the airfryer is healthy, I somehow do not want to buy
Sens
Quote: rusja

Sad
Although they may also design something similar, with the wishes of the workers, the airfryer is healthy, I somehow do not want to buy
have already constructed
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...41366.0
lega
Quote: rusja

Sad
Although they may also design something similar, with the wishes of the workers, the airfryer is healthy, I somehow do not want to buy

Here's another interesting thing. Convection oven Mini- HOTTER HX-1037 Classic SF. Not healthy, only 7 liters. And a full-fledged airfryer (the temperature and convection speed change), and there is a frying pan with a stirrer, and a piece can be baked ... 🔗
New - Ves Electric SK-A - hybrid.
lega
Quote: MariV

lega,
yes, it makes noise - I made a video especially for you - it does not load; take my word for it - it makes a lot of noise. And first he rakes up a bunch, and then smears it herself. I already do not pay attention to this. She, of course, fries potatoes well, almost without oil. Today I made a stelline cheesecake in it - very good! Now I will put the meat on the wire rack. Of course, not without technical flaws!
Chicken breast 35 minutes - probably a bit too much. 10-15 minutes will be enough. I did not fry pork in small pieces today for 20 minutes - it turned out very well.

To be honest, I'm disappointed ... There is only one operating mode - neither the temperature nor the convection rate change ... It makes a lot of noise, the TV is almost inaudible ..
35 minutes for a chicken, probably a lot, but I still wanted a ruddy crust on the chicken, and after 15 minutes. she wasn't there yet ..

Did you fry pork with a stirrer? Or how? On the grate? Did you spread it along the bottom?
MariV
I roasted pork on the wire rack.
Lyi
Quote: lga

Here's another interesting thing. Convection oven Mini- HOTTER HX-1037 Classic SF. Not healthy, only 7 liters. And a full-fledged airfryer (the temperature and convection speed change), and there is a frying pan with a stirrer, and a piece can be baked
I was very interested in this little thing. I asked for it on Yandex, but I could not find it anywhere except for the Seven Hills stores.
Since it is not available to me, please, to the Muscovites living next to these stores, see it live, touch or at least call and clarify what this attachment is (I quote "Has an active attachment-frying pan with a unique electric stirrer for frying and reheating food ").
Is this the same as in this VES hybrid or something different?
Only you need exactly MINI-Hotter, not just Classic, like this
🔗
lega
Quote: Lyi

I was very interested in this little thing. I asked for it on Yandex, but I did not find it anywhere except for the Seven Hills stores.

Lyi, I was also interested in this thing and yesterday I just happened to be near the Seven Hills. I looked, touched it with my hands, asked to turn it on, and listened to how it was making noise ... I'm telling ...
The active frying pan does not rotate itself ... the stirrer rotates in it ... this Hotter has almost no noise (compared to the VES) ... there is a magnifying ring ... BUT ... frying pan much less ... in the middle of the pan sticks out a pin on which the stirrer is placed (the VES has a more careful knob in this respect) .... and the price is not at all the same as in that link ... it costs about seven thousand ..
Like this 🔗, is cheaper, but it has mechanical control and a lot of other things - a timer, the convection speed does not change ..
There was also such a unit, it is almost the same as the VES, only abruptly and quieter (the pan does not rotate, so it does not rattle on the wheels), but also quite noisy ...

Cvetaal
Lyi, I also put my eyes on this airfryer because of the stirrer, but this message is still holding me back from buying, I copied the discussion from the corresponding topic


Conveyor grill (model selection, advice, reviews). Volume 2 “Reply # 265 26 Sep. 2011, 17:18 "

Quote: Olla on Sep 26. 2011, 02:09
The HOTTER HX-1037 Classic / SF has an additional add-on pan with auto-stirring at an inexpensive price - and this is already the function of a multicooker! Stirring is sometimes very necessary - and the main thing is that you can quickly cook small portions under the lid itself - and they will not burn!

I have one.
So far, this auto-stirring pan is the most unclaimed device in the kitchen. It is cooking very slowly on it. Potatoes with onions in 40 minutes! In a slow cooker, this takes 15 minutes. While on my mind from its possible use: corn porridge or something that is long-boiled.
Maybe someone from the members of the forum will advise something else?

More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=125182.0
Lyi
Lga, Checkmark, thanks a lot for the detailed explanation.
Confused by the price of about 7 thousand rubles, although if you consider that on VES now, too, stores have raised prices over 5 thousand, then it is logical.
I didn't like Option 2 for the same reasons as you.
Option 3, IMHO, I'm not sure that everything will cook well without rotating the pan or stirrer.
But it all killed Cvetaal's message of lengthy cooking.
If so, then the entire Wishlist disappears immediately.
Cvetaal, Thank you.
Probably, you will have to ask the owner of this device to comment on the reason for such a long preparation. After all, there are different cooking temperatures in Aerogrills, why is cooking so slow?
lega
Quote: Lyi


Option 3, IMHO, I'm not sure that everything will cook well without rotating the pan or stirrer.
But it all killed Cvetaal's message of lengthy cooking.

Lyi, in the third version there is a stirrer and in general it looks like a VES there just does not spin the pan, but the stirrer itself moves. And if to choose between a HOTTER and VESKA, then I would now choose a HOTTER. And it's really not getting ready quickly.
IRR
Quote: lga

Lyi, in the third version there is a stirrer and in general it looks like a VES there just does not spin the pan, but the stirrer itself moves. And if to choose between a HOTTER and VESKA, then I would now choose a HOTTER. And it's really not getting ready quickly.

girls, what do you think - why are they so expensive? from a driving agitator?
MariV
Today they finally replaced the stirrer for me - on Monday they brought it to the service center, and today they have already replaced it! Moreover, the UMP was conducted for the use of a mixer!
To celebrate, I fried potatoes - everything is OK!
I mercilessly exploit it every day - today I listened to the sounds again - it makes no more noise than my microwave in convection mode. Yes, of course, it could be cheaper - they buy something not very willingly. Well......
IRR
Quote: MariV

Today they finally replaced the stirrer for me -

that's what great power of persuasion and the right tone mean 🔗... Congratulations
MariV
Quote: IRR

that's what great power of persuasion and the right tone mean New - Ves Electric SK-A - hybrid.... Congratulations
Well, with the seller it was almost like that - for a month he fed me promises; and with the service everything is much easier - bring it. This is encouraging - if something else is changed or done!
I already got used to this technique, and she - to me.Stellina just baked a cheesecake in it!
IRR
Quote: MariV

Stellina just baked a cheesecake in it!

show
MariV
Photo? - but no! Fotik - cuckoo! Breathing hard. Don't you believe in a word?
IRR
Quote: MariV

Photo? - but no! Fotik - cuckoo! Breathing hard. Don't you believe in a word?

I believe it, I don't believe it: girl_romashka: here go to in the subject and rely on her mercy, like yes, they chopped down a cheesecake, a bite one, but foty, bought a weight for a mulion, in it, they say, and cooked ... but for a fotik nefatilo. And as evidence, a screen of your belly

: secret: you can write off my words for Stella: this: well ... so as not to strain too much after vatruha. Give

MariV
Wow, I'll sprinkle my words for you - mom daraHaya!
Stellke said thank you.
Belly screen - later ...
Yes, you can buy 7 weight for one fotik!

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