Ilmirushka
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DEXP
kartinka, from this office DEXP the tablet from which I live here. When bought, it was also a mystery. The seller said that ... now I can confuse everything (it was a long time ago), whether it is our Russian development (somewhere in the Far East), and the assembly is Chinese, or the opposite is true. Rather, the first option.
What bribed this particular tablet? Outwardly - an ordinary tablet, but it is with a keyboard, a mouse and a USB flash drive, in general, a laptop, only a small one. The functions of a tablet and a laptop are combined, that is, I can lie on the bed with it, using it like a tablet, or I can sit down at the table and put it in the form of a laptop, which I often do.
Here's an interesting thing.
What am I all for? Firm, can wide viewer not very well known to the buyer, but the products turned out to be quite decent. I think the bread maker from them also has its own interests.
GALLAACTIC
Quote: Wiki
My Panas will be eleven this year. Has not peeled off anywhere.
And my LG is 15 years old this month and nothing else. True, about 12 years ago I handed over to repairs. She sparkled. So the repair cost a quarter of the cost of the micra, like they changed the mica (it was "burned out" on the inside. Outside, I rubbed it, and there, it turns out, droplets of fat manage to get inside) and the magnetron (although now I think that the magnetron and did not change, since I turned it off almost instantly.) In addition, the old mica was returned, but the magnetron, supposedly replaced, was not. Since then, mmm, it has been working perfectly, and I myself periodically change the mica (I order it for Ali). Long ago I made the conclusion that before household appliances (and not only) were made much better, but now, if only the warranty period worked, and if longer, then this is "lucky"!
lega
Quote: Ilmirushka
if I give a photo of the insides of my micro, here not only you get into the subject ... but half the forum will come running to look at my wonderful miracle! She ... is all shabby!
I had a Japanese Mikra Akira, too, all peeled off from above inside. So ... there the inner coating was not thermo-enamel, but simply painted with enamel. Nothing should happen to thermo enamel, it's like the inner coating of the oven. In vain you refuse to watch them in the store.
kartinka
Girls, thank you for your help, I went and looked at this hp again, and left with a small 3L pressure cooker Polaris 1203ad, I decided on hp - everyone in the branch convinced that we needed a Panasonic. I also decided on the model - I will look without a dispenser which model is cheaper or catch what discount. Now we need to decide on the micro. What is in stores, I don't even want to remember. I didn't like anything at all. On weekends I will walk through the others - at least see what is there in general.
Micra does not burn, but you need to decide to know already. I remembered this pressure cooker for almost a year, and then the price turned up, and immediately, without delivery. So with the micro, you probably need to do the same.
Ilmirushka
Quote: lga
Nothing should happen to thermo enamel, it's like the inner coating of the oven. In vain you refuse to watch them in the store.
Thank you, lega, but how do you know what kind of enamel is inside ... we took this one too - it was beautiful
Mrs. Addams
Ilmirushka, and I am satisfied with my Panasonic of the Belarusian assembly, it is very easy to clean, the table is large, there is no grill and it is good that it is not white inside.
Wiki
Ilmira, it seems to me that Panasonic simply cannot make a bad enamel in the microwave. Still a well-known brand.
Mrs. Addams, mine is also not white, but like wet asphalt
Andreevna
Quote: Wiki
Ilmira, it seems to me that Panasonic simply cannot make bad enamel in the microwave.
In my dacha, I have a small Panasonic, without convection, but there is a grill. She is already 7 years old, the coating is enamel, so far there have been no problems, as good as new inside. So, girls, do not hesitate, you can take
Mrs. Addams
Wiki,
Quote: Wiki
I also have not white, but like wet asphalt


Ilmirushka
Arina, WIKI, Andreevna, girls, thank you for your revelations and the secrets revealed to me about your micros. I realized that there is no better Panasonic micra
lega
Quote: Ilmirushka
I realized that there is no better Panasonic micra
Recently I chose a new micra for my son, I need the simplest one to warm up. I looked and compared everything for a long time. As a result, I chose PANASONIC NN-ST251WZPE. It attracted the credibility of the company, the absence of bells and whistles, the reasonable price (5715r) and the touch panel. I do not like mechanical buttons and handles, it is easier to keep the touchscreen clean.
Lolievna
Girls and boys, tell me, please. Microwave Supra, began to peel off the enamel inside. Is that all, kirdyk? Or can I still use it? I would not like to buy now, I am leaving for the summer in the village.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Lolievna
Microwave Supra, began to peel off the enamel inside. Is that all, kirdyk? Or can I still use it?
Lolievna, I have a mikra STOLET peeled off and nothing, plows until now.
Although she was afraid that it was impossible, she would sparkle, but
Lolievna
Ilmirushka, Thank you, so let it peel off further, I won't bother with buying a new one yet. The agony of choice again ...
Vlad_Ru
Quote: Lolievna
Microwave Supra, began to peel off the enamel inside. Is that all, kirdyk? Or can I still use it? I would not like to buy now, I am leaving for the summer in the village.
If you are not lazy, you can peel these places and paint with ammo enamel from a spray can.
Lolievna
Vlad_Ru, Thank you, I wouldn't have thought of it myself ... I'll do it before leaving, especially since it's a little shabby, under the plate
Caprice
Quote: Lolievna

Girls and boys, tell me, please. Microwave Supra, began to peel off the enamel inside. Is that all, kirdyk? Or can I still use it? I would not like to buy now, I am leaving for the summer in the village.
If not already rusted. But:
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kartinka
Something I can’t decide on a micro. Now my husband is on a business trip, it's time to take something and break my head ... I read a branch and I can't figure out what is needed at all ... in my head only warming up and sterilization of cans and a capacity of at least 800, although there is a place on the vertical freezer , You can take more ... and if you order through THEM, be afraid or not? In the city, there is no choice at all. ..
Lolievna
Quote: Caprice
If not already rusted.
Caprice, Irene, Thanks for the link! I suspected something like that. Not yet rusty, just today a piece flew off. There is also advice on painting, because I will hold out for a while while I choose a new one.
Caprice
Lolievna, Natalia, if you choose a new one, take with a ceramic coating and a coating guarantee. For example, I have a Samsung with a ceramic coating, for which the manufacturer gives a 10-year warranty. My previous microwave ovens "went away" precisely because the enamel deteriorated, and we began to be afraid to use it.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Caprice
take with ceramic coating and coating warranty. For example, I have a Samsung with ceramic coating
Irene, but do not write the model? And then in the models of Samsung you can get lost, and in the Internet shops the surfaces of the camera are not always described, but more often they are not described.
Longina
I have a bioceramic coated model.
Microwave Samsung CE 103 VR-B, grill + convection, 28L. In operation since September 2013. Before that, there was also Samsung, but of a smaller volume with the same coverage. Something broke, repaired and taken to the dacha.
Ilmirushka
Quote: Longina
Before that, there was also Samsung, but of a smaller volume with the same coverage.
here I would be smaller ...
kartinka
Ilmirushka, do you really want less? Me, after reading a branch, something shakes something small, something like a grill convection ... although it seems to be needed for warming up (that's just my desktop oven, small, so I think maybe I need more
Caprice
Ilmirushka, I don't remember the model. I have had a Samsung microwave for several years.My main selection criterion was a bioceramic coating with a guarantee. I think Samsung has more than one model with such coverage. I have a model with grill, convection and combined programs. Probably, not everyone needs these programs. Here it is worth choosing a model that meets the specific needs of your family. But, the coverage criterion should be the main one.
Ilmirushka
Marina, Irene, girls, I've been experiencing the torment of choice for so long that I already hate all microwaves. What you need is cheap and not of high quality, but what is of high quality is far from cheap because of those new things that I do not want!
And I want a little one, without everything, that is, "solo", to warm up and defrost, BUT with a stainless steel inside. And there is no such thing.
I don't need grilling or convection, I have a small new Panasonic 3 in 1 oven:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...content&task=view&id=2336
And I bought it, thinking that it would replace the micra for me, but ... nothing can replace the micra in the lightning-fast heating part, I think so.
Kapet
Maybe you shouldn't be so chasing after the MB (bio) ceramic lining. It is good when MV is used to heat food or to cook at low temperatures.

We have (I don’t remember exactly) plowed for ten years like Papa Carlo MV LG MJ3281BC, 32 liters, and is actively used for cooking at high temperatures of 200C and more, on the grill or with convection. The inner coating is made of stainless steel with EasyClean ™ coating. Of course, the color inside from use has changed, in places it has darkened, but it is easy to clean, especially if from time to time you do the prophylaxis of the inner surface with Mr Homestar LG Microwave Oven Cleaner:

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Homestar Microwave Cleaner will quickly and reliably remove even the most stubborn dirt and bacteria in your microwave.
Fast, easy and effective product for cleaning and disinfecting microwave ovens.
Kills germs, eliminates unpleasant odors and removes food debris.
Tested by the manufacturer and verified by the Korea Hygiene Institute.
How to use: Pour the liquid out of the bottle, put it in the microwave for 2 minutes, then wipe it dry with the sponge that comes with the kit.

Volume: 45 ml


This coating is also used in modern LG models.




Quote: Ilmirushka
And I want a little one, without everything, that is, "solo", to warm up and defrost, BUT with a stainless steel inside. And there is no such thing.
Take a look at the Solo model: LG MS20E47DKB. 20 liters, stainless steel lining "EasyClean ™ antibacterial coating for easy cleaning"

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Mrs. Addams
Girls, of course, you will forgive me, but we have a topic Microwave ovens (discussion of models, modes, features)

Here, in every new message, you are waiting for a description of who and what is doing in the micro, but it turns out
Kapet
Quote: Mrs. Addams
Here in each new message you are waiting for a description of who and what is doing in the micro
It is difficult to compare or evaluate who does what in CF, because their functionality is very diverse. If, for example, I start to tell you how many different things are prepared in our MV on convection, or grill, or in a crisp plate, then many simply will not understand me ...
dopleta
Sorry, I wrote, and then I saw above the answer to the same topic from Mrs. Addams. In this topic, we are already using the capabilities of our microwave ovens.
eye
Quote: Kapet

It is difficult to compare or evaluate who does what in CF, because their functionality is very diverse. If, for example, I start to tell you how many different things are prepared in our MV on convection, or grill, or in a crisp plate, then many simply will not understand me ...
Constantin, it is possible that someone also has exactly the same oven as yours, but for someone your experience will be an incentive to purchase this particular model.
Lay out, .... lay out (c)

I will support Arina and Larisa: we filter thoroughly
Prus - 2
Larissa, thanks for your intervention. In fact - there is a topic of choice! I also went into this topic to see what to cook in micro, and I also did not understand what is being discussed here (((.
Lolievna
Thank you all for your advice!
Ilmirushka
Quote: Kapet

It is difficult to compare or evaluate who does what in CF, because their functionality is very diverse. If, for example, I start to tell you how many different things are prepared in our MV on convection, or grill, or in a crisp plate, then many simply will not understand me ...
Constantin, understand, understand! We will also understand HOW.I don't cook anything in it except for a quick omelet. What if ... my attitude towards her will change. In general, we are waiting.
plasmo4ka
Constantin, you just start, and we will pick up and understand everything. I am especially interested in baking ... or rather, what to do with an enamel baking sheet and a glass plate during baking with convection: remove the plate or the baking sheet is right on it, and what will happen to the plastic ring-runner when I would be very grateful if you could explain this moment
dopleta
I also use my oven in tail and mane. Even, frankly, sympathy is evoked by those who use the only opportunity to warm up. However, so much has already been written about this, and videos have been exhibited, and our recipes!
Longina
Quote: plasmo4ka
what to do with an enamel baking sheet and a glass plate during baking with convection: remove the plate or the baking sheet directly on it, and what will happen to the plastic ring-runner at the same time
Angela, convection is not as dangerous as a grill. It's just hot air blowing. On convection, I put the container with the pastries on a low wire rack and forward.




And by the way, I put the lattice on the plate.
Zeamays
Quote: Kapet
Take a look at the Solo model: LG MS20E47DKB. 20 liters, stainless steel lining "EasyClean ™ antibacterial coating for easy cleaning"
Constantin, I am also interested in such a stove, but in its characteristics there is no mention of "stainless steel", but it is indicated - easy-to-clean Easy Clean enamel. That is, it is still enamel, which can peel off ...

Kapet
Quote: Zeamays
but in its characteristics there is no mention of "stainless steel", but it is indicated - easy-to-clean enamel Easy Clean.
Now I have consulted with my managers. The info is:
The stainless steel inside is now, at least for LG, only in two models of the NeoChef ™ series with a volume of 39 liters: MJ3965AIS and MJ3965BIS, which with all the bells and whistles, convection, etc., are large and expensive. Stainless steel inside is required in those models where high temperatures can be up to 200C and above ...
LG now has "Easy Clean ™" - truly a coating on plain metal - tough, antibacterial, corrosion and mechanical resistant. I suspect that this is some kind of analogue of bioceramics from Samsung. Worse or better - xs, since no one has conducted comparative testing.
And in my old lady MV LG MJ3281BC the coating of the cable is different: "Easy Clean Coating ™". This is just some kind of coating on the stainless steel, because the temperatures during cooking with convection, grilling, and in combined modes, inside there are also over 200C ...
That is, indeed, Easy Clean is different ... Sorry, if you misled someone ...
Zeamays
Quote: Ilmirushka
What if ... my attitude towards her will change.
Ilmirushka, if the dream is not realized in any way, then this dream must be changed ...
Ilmirushka
Quote: Zeamays

Ilmirushka, if the dream is not realized in any way, then this dream must be changed ...
don't tell me Svetlana, apparently, I will accept and start dreaming about something else
eye
Ilmirushka, everything will happen! One has only to get sick!
plasmo4ka
Elena, Thank you! finally, I will try this program too
Zebra
Got infa. Haven't checked it yet.

Prevent crying from onions
Microwave. What can we do in it?
Tears can be avoided when cutting onions. To do this, you need to peel the onion and cut the top and bottom. Then place it in the microwave for 30 seconds. After cooling down, you can start shredding. This method helps to get rid of substances that provoke tearing, while maintaining the taste and beneficial properties of onions.

Cooking cabbage leaves
Microwave. What can we do in it?
The microwave will help prepare cabbage leaves for cabbage rolls. First, rinse the head and remove the hard part. Cabbage can be put into the oven directly in this form, or it can be additionally wrapped with cling film to create a greater greenhouse effect.

Cook on medium power for 10 minutes. You can turn the head of cabbage periodically.

Peeling vegetables and fruits.

You don't need to boil vegetables or fruits to get rid of the peel quickly. You can do it much easier. Make a cruciform incision in the skin.Then place the food in the microwave for about 2 minutes at medium power. When the vegetables or fruits have cooled down a bit, the skins will begin to peel. Removing it is already a matter of technology.
dopleta
Quote: Zebra
for 2 minutes
For a tomato, 2 minutes is a lot! Half a minute is enough.
OgneLo
Lollipops in the microwave

a mixture of juice (1 part by weight) and granulated sugar (4 parts by weight) in a microwave oven until dissolved for 2-3 minutes, wait until air bubbles disappear from the surface of the prepared candy solution and pour into silicone ice molds, cool until solidified.
kartinka
OgneLo, marinochka, as on time! I will try
gala10
Here's another recipe for the microwave:
Microwave. What can we do in it?Microwave baked potatoes
(gala10)

Help yourself!
Zebra

Garlic

To eliminate the process of peeling garlic as much as possible, just hold the head in the microwave for 20 seconds. Subsequently, she will literally jump out of her "clothes".
nila
If this is true, then why is the microwave at all
Named products that are prohibited from heating in the microwave
The microwave oven changes the food structure
Most housewives have long been accustomed to having a microwave in their kitchens, but experts warn that not all foods can be reheated this way.

Some food becomes deadly if heated in the microwave.

According to experts, the microwave oven changes the structure of food at the molecular level. When heated, a special heating element arranges the molecules in a certain order, and in one second of heating, the molecules can turn 180 degrees up to several million times. At the same time, the quality of the product itself varies greatly.

Experts said that in no case should beef be heated in the microwave, since fats and proteins are deformed in the meat, the level of dangerous carcinogens increases.

In addition, experts strongly advise against warming up milk formulas and breast milk in the microwave. When heated, these foods lose amino acids and become toxic to the baby.

Cereal porridges also need to be warmed up only on the stove, because when heated in a microwave, they acquire carcinogenic properties.

Doctors advise against defrosting frozen fruits and berries in a microwave oven - these products completely lose their valuable properties.

It is also better to reheat already cooked vegetables on the stove; it is not recommended to heat potatoes in the microwave.

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