matroskin_kot
And I, and I - CONGRATULATIONS! And for the photo report, thanks! Does the minced meat need to be squeezed out like from a pistol or is it metered out somehow? I don't like to buy shop either, but to sculpt on seven - of which four are men of different ages, well, the rest also do not suffer from a lack of love for dumplings - dumplings - it's just a nightmare! Together we sculpt for two hours, and eat it in 20 minutes. I ordered the same yesterday so that the money would not be returned, but I also want the robot.
Black_cat
It does everything by itself, only at first it is imperative to release a couple of empty dumplings, otherwise it can spread the minced meat past ...
instructions, of course, no, the one that is - in Chinese)) and torn in half))

By the way, this semi-industrial robot somehow does not inspire optimism to me
There are too many details and there are some rubber bands, something is written in the description, which periodically need to be replaced, they wear out quickly.
In a barrel organ, I can fix, make, replace everything myself,
and the plastic bucket is somehow embarrassing)
floran
The video is very stupid, nothing is clear. Tell me Black catHow long did it take you for 240 dumplings?
Black_cat
Quote: floran

The video is very stupid, nothing is clear. Tell me Black catHow long did it take you for 240 dumplings?
The video is just the only existing - or which has not yet been found - a manual on how to use this "organ. It can be downloaded from 4shared hosting -

Whether you are making minced meat and preparing dough, or just a fact - you put the rolled ribbon into the necessary rolls, straighten it, got two empty dumplings, hook the bunker and twist - don't forget to look, God forbid, the dough flap ends - then there will be a lot of fuss, clean the minced meat from the gears ...
in the presence of everything ready - dough, minced meat, all sorts of substrates, etc. - faster than cutting the noodles. And don't hang them up !! On average 30-35 minutes - keep in mind, this is the FIRST experience))
now I know that thick dough breaks more easily, that is, free dumplings and fold them faster
If something is not clear, you ask.
There will be an opportunity - I will make a video, then you will see that it is really fast

By the way, even though they don't argue about tastes .. I added 2 tablespoons (from a bread machine) of soy sauce to the minced meat .. Although my relatives don’t give birth to it, this time they didn’t even notice its presence
floran
Yes, here is this video, along with photos Black_cat inspired! Black_cat, I sincerely congratulate you! And how much did it cost you, to find out, apparently, will not be possible? It looks like it turns out to be more expensive than the one that Natay... But it has a noodle cutter, a nice bonus, and the dough waste is used immediately.
Black_cat
Quote: floran

Yes, here is this video, along with photos Black_cat inspired! Black_cat, I sincerely congratulate you! And how much did it cost you, to find out, apparently, will not be possible? It looks like it turns out to be more expensive than the one that Natay... But it has a noodle cutter, a nice bonus, and the dough waste is used immediately.
I wrote somewhere above - $ 50 - the car itself, + $ 137 shipping (or 127). In rubles - 1500+ 4,500 - something like that

By the way, here are the prices for comparison - don't forget to add shipping 🔗
matroskin_kot
And I have great again! I decided to check, in what condition the order is, I see, it is canceled, the holidays, they say, and if you don't mind, then only after February 14th. I had to reissue the order again, and then, as I understand it, the order of execution ... Only the poor cat has no luck ... So does Rutaobao dislike me so much? If the money is returned, then a lot is lost, despite the fact that there was a commission when transferring it "there".I'm waiting, at least they would send a notification about the changes. I will check every day.
matroskin_kot
Well, I thought so, all the same, taking the money is a whole epic, return only to a VISA card, and even with a commission, I decided that instead of the canceled "robot" I would order the same unit as yours. On January 21, the payment went through, and the goods are in stock, I don't even look into the order. If it's a vacation, let them go for a walk, but should there be an order in the queue? Some kind of nonsense.
I can say that I’m already preparing a place in the freezer, and then, again, surprise. The kids are already giggling, and I'm angry - well, you can't plan anything! Even such nonsense.

mgla
Quote: matroskin_kot

I decided to check, in what condition the order is, I see, it is canceled, the holidays, they say, and if you don't mind, then only after February 14th. I had to reissue the order again, and then, as I understand it, the order of execution ... ... Does Rutaobao dislike me so much?
Really strange! If the order was paid for, then they left it for further processing after February 14. Maybe they did not receive a response from the seller and decided to give you the freedom to choose: to re-order or to prefer something else?
Well, rutaobao doesn't like me either. My order (KM Kenwood) was already ready to ship and required a small surcharge, which I transferred back on January 21st. But the person who receives WeStеrn Union transfers from them does not receive this money for some reason (there is information on the Internet that they are available for receiving). And my order is frozen. I could have received it already in early February, and now, at best, I will receive it only by March. I can't pay for other orders with the money that was hanging, I had to cancel them temporarily.
During this time, I just got confused, which dumpling machine would be better in everyday life (this Black_cat introduced confusion into my thoughts with my photographs, at first I immediately rejected this machine).
ikko4ka
I did not master the whole Temko (there is no time). : pardon: But I made a conclusion - I need such a machine for dumplings !.
Now I'll be looking for which one ...
Natay
mgla, I would also doubt which one to buy. But since the noodle cutter is already there, I did not consider this option. If you do not have a noodle cutter and this model makes dumplings well (and not like from a ravioli attachment for noodle cutters), then this option will probably be more acceptable. Of course, take another look at the process of one and the other.
P.S. And what Kenwood do you order and how much does it cost? I've been dreaming for a long time
mgla
matroskin_kot, well, here we are two boots - a pair I want both!
Natay , with Kenwood it's better in Temko https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4985.0... As I understand it, there are no problems with buying Kenwood kitchen machines in Russia or Ukraine. You writeandthose will prompt specific addresses!
I ordered the original Kenwood KMM760, the price is $ 740, shipping and transportation (EMS) cost me $ 300, I did not dare by mail, although it would have been cheaper.
We didn't have Kenwood kitchen machines and the like; from Russia and Ukraine such goods are not sent (maybe yes, but I did not find such an opportunity), so I had to look in the neighboring Celestial Empire. Taking this opportunity, I want to thank you for the link to rutaobao in this thread: at least some opportunity has appeared to get what you want on the Bread Maker. ru, where there are so many of the same deviceaholics, I know, they will understand me
Natay
Quote: mgla

matroskin_kot, well, here we are two boots - a pair I want both!
Natay , with Kenwood it's better in Temko https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4985.0.
We didn't have Kenwood kitchen machines and the like;

Ah, well, it is clear, but I already thought that it could be cheaper or more complicated
Black_cat
In general, so, with the machine-dumplings-noodles that I have, the dumplings turn out to be pretty and even, - on the third approach to it (hands are crooked, or what)
As in the picture, and, interestingly, they are cooked without falling on their side, namely, as they stand on a plate.
Tricks!
1. Grind the minced meat into the finest mesh, preferably twice and immediately with onions,
then add, preferably in a blender, chopped carrot root - for 1.5 kg one root 15-17 cm long, 1.5-2 cm in diameter (specially measured).
2. The ground meat must be liquefied with water a little, and a couple of tablespoons of vegetable oil - otherwise the extruder will not cope.
3. The capacity of the extruder is enough for an average of 25-28 pieces of dumplings, if the dough flap is not over, the extruder again gives two or three empty dumplings after filling, I don't know why.
4.If a flap of dough is short, you insert another - remove the extruder and shake it out, then refill, of course, stir the minced meat periodically in a bowl.
5.The thickness of the dough flap is optimal 2.5 mm, thinner - it can break, although the dumplings do not fall apart during cooking, but inside they are not juicy.

And lastly, the dough with an egg is for some reason more difficult to work with than, as there is given in the automatic translation of the device description on rutaobao - 1 glass of water and 4 glasses of flour. Without the pruning egg, it is easier to roll up and use it again, the egg dough is more elastic and more capricious in this regard.

P.S. There is also a separate noodle cutter, but somehow screw two devices on one table at once - there is not enough space, however))
mgla
Natay , there are more heaped up there too, did not order because of unwillingness to contact customs (over $ 1000, and already unnecessary troubles, which I don't need now). And the 1200 W power will suit me perfectly, and I only need two nozzles, everything else is in a different technique.
And can you find out the proportions for the dough to your dumpling machine?
Black_cat , thanks for the details!
Black_cat
The most interesting thing is that you manually knead the dough with a break, and the minced meat somehow always turns out more than necessary: ​​yahoo: Cutlets !!! and soup with meatballs and noodles ....
Natay
1) yes
2) depending on the meat, if the fatty already passes
3) the capacity of minced meat is enough for 40 pieces, but until the end it is not produced, I wrote about this, as a rule, it remains for a couple of cutlets, until I figured out why.
4) I insert the dough in portions as needed, but you also need to look if you will miss a couple of pieces without dough. Additionally, you do not need to shake out anything.
5) well, the dough does not roll out, that is, the machine rolls and molds it there. Torn dough also does not fall apart.

At the expense of eggs will have to try. The last time I made the dough vomited until I added flour (I sinned for flour) or maybe it's the eggs? And if the dough is not quite elastic, then it can close up everything in the middle, but then you need to disassemble everything and wipe it dry.
And I also wrote that the dumplings are not small + I also did it with potatoes, it turned out great. I did it with cottage cheese - not really, but I think I need to come up with an "optimal recipe for cottage cheese" well, in a word, I will experiment with cottage cheese.
swetlana25
Well, we are waiting for experiments with cottage cheese, after reading the whole Temko, I decided ........ I also need an Enta thingy, well, very, very much, I'll think about how to order, ...... China is next to us, probably with " russotouristo "order
Black_cat
Natay
As I understand it, we seem to have different cars, I'm also waiting for this robot - a plastic duck, my son ordered.
And I shake out the minced meat just in case - it was a couple of times - either the minced meat was poorly mixed, or it was ground poorly - the exit from the jar was hammered when added directly to it, therefore we shake it out, away from sin and trouble, as they say ..
In my machine, there is usually nothing left at all at the bottom of the extruder can, only the nozzle itself contains the remainder of the minced meat for a tiny meatball ..
I'm happy with the car, it's easy to work and, most importantly, there is no waste .. well, if you just screw it up yourself - well, then the dogs in the village, a little holiday
natamylove
guys, I decided to open a joint venture, if there are those who wish, you are welcome
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=110148.new#new

the way personally verified.
LenaV07
I've found such a thing 🔗
The photo, however, is not very informative ...
mgla
LenaV07, such a machine has Natay, she posted her photos and impressions somewhere higher in this thread; and laid out a large photo from the box Gypsy in the first post.

Black_cat
People! Something there is a feeling that this movieslion seller with taobao with a plastic robot, which she managed to get Natay, disappeared somewhere .. none of these Chinese stores have this dumpling machine.

Maybe someone knows a specific link where such a beautiful device is still there?
Very curious after all.
matroskin_kot
Well, so I also say, I have no luck with the poor cat ... I will order, I will not order, one result 8) And now where can the poor peasant buy this bandura? And I love dumplings ...and the homeland is reluctant to sell ...
matroskin_kot
Let there be a holiday, of course. and happiness is not in stupid dumplings, but simply - ... well, why should I? well -... well ... -nu- And just like that. Well, I will live without entoy bandura - well, I lived before ... A - a - dumplings - they are, however, harmful ... But how many new people!
matroskin_kot
And we all will win, or we will win !!! : Victory: Ur-ra, I think there is a demand, etc. b. proposal ... The Chinese are not idiots - miss the benefit? What if ours will take and release something like that? The principle is probably simple. A normal engineer would have already enriched himself ... I remember how my friend established almost such a "bandura" for business. The principle is about the same - meat - on the one hand, dough - on the other ... For a long time they could not even look in the direction of dumplings, tests are a heavy burden ... And here it is not for business - for a family ... Well, at last, we will disassemble Natalia's car, we will cut out the components from the improvised m-fishing by the model, well, that's all ... we are no worse than the Chinese ...
Black_cat
Quote: mgla

On rutaobao he

Yes, the impression is created that it was a joint purchase and the whole lot left. We have already been told that such a unit is not available for rutaobao. But the Ukrainian seller has it here. 🔗./tema-706104.html, but they don't seem to ship goods outside of Ukraine.
In any case, a package from Ukraine to the Russian Federation can be very expensive.
Black_cat
Quote: matroskin_kot

What if ours will take and release something like that?
Are you serious or just so that the sky does not seem gray? Do we have a lot of Our products in stores?
Black_cat
Yesterday a couple of friends came to see me, and I had the rest of the minced meat in the refrigerator and a little bit of dough .. Well .. we tried it .. we made a dozen dumplings ourselves ...

Do you remember the movie "Back to the Future"? There was such a professor, with a shift in his head ... Here are my friends eyes became exactly like a crazy professor !

All sorts of unhealthy suggestions poured in, such as opening your own cafe, etc.
matroskin_kot
Well, why - unhealthy .. You can follow the example of Tom Sawyer - a bag of minced meat, a lump of dough - and whoever sticks it faster - will roll ... And take money from visitors ... or beer - if from friends and it does not reach the cafe
Black_cat
no, with our system of pressure on small businesses .. this is at least rash ideas
Plus, if you make bread, dumplings as for yourself, you will go broke faster than you start an enterprise
matroskin_kot
Black_cat, just looking at Taobao Chinese, bidding go ... cars are on sale. Can you try to order through ebaytoday? they are more impressive than Rutaobao, it seems. (if it is, this machine is still needed).
Black_cat
Quote: matroskin_kot

Black_cat, just looking at Taobao Chinese, bidding go ... cars are on sale. Can you try to order through ebaytoday? they are more impressive than Rutaobao, it seems. (if it is, this machine is still needed).

Thank you!
Support wrote that at the time of ordering it seemed like there was no product anymore
but about ebaytoday - this is a thought, but I'm not sure that I need this plastic - this is my son's idea - so as not to roll out, but immediately spank ready-made)))
Black_cat
this plastic robot on rutaobao under two numbers goes, at least we found a second, the seller is the same, but the quantity of goods is different.
I'm not sure if this device is more convenient than my spanking machine, because in Chinese taobao - I went out through Chrome, there you can translate the page right away - they don't speak very flatteringly about the plastic unit in the comments - it's difficult to wash and seems to be capricious in work.
My rolling is easier in that I simply shook off the flour, swept it with a brush, and washed the collapsible minced meat hopper. The only inconvenience is that the mince must be made very plastic. here. But to wash two parts or a dozen - agree, there is a difference
And more - excess dough - in the noodles, the noodle cutter is attached to two sizes of a nozzle.
matroskin_kot
And me - and that, and another, and pills from greed ... Last week I was so "strategic" stock of dumplings - dumplings helped out. My son had a friend, so you need to feed the "kids" 3 times a day. Now we need to replenish the stock. Black_cat, and if you freeze a ribbon of dumplings without tearing to the end into separate dumplings? Isn't it easier to separate then? Or will there be many "scraps" of the test-law? On the "raviolnitsa" I only cut off the edges - and in the freezer - with a plate on a tray. And then the marriage was too much at first. I used my hands to fix the seams.
Black_cat
matroskin_kot
I tried to dry them without tearing, but there is a lot of excess dough, which I - probably miser in my soul - try to recycle. And if you tear off these triangles and edges, but do not break the dumplings themselves, leave them as if on a thread, well, nice, but again - the refrigerator has a very inconvenient drawer, it is more convenient for me to freeze them one by one, setting them with a "scallop" up, just 40-45 pieces are stacked on the bottom. I think everything is like making a "bookcase" out of a pair of trays, so as not to freeze in one layer, but in three. But, again, while the next 40-45 pieces are being prepared, the first ones seem to have turned to stone, I just pour them into a large square container (3 liters) for the microwave. So whatnot seems to be useless

matroskin_kot
Once upon a time we had such an aluminum shelf, a special one, but it got lost ... I now ice on trays for the grill - aluminum, they bought some in the supermarket, and since they are soft, I fold it in 2, then in the corners - from my granddaughter's designer - lego - 4 cubes - a bar, the main thing is that the same and not bulky - and the next pallet. Pallets with holes - everything freezes in. In the freezer chamber - I have 3 such pallets in the box - one by one fits. Bend, of course, these pallets slightly, but so they are generally disposable, I save them. Somehow I didn't like them in the grill - here they are - and, by the way, dumplings - dumplings don't stick to them, I sprinkle a little flour with flour.
Black_cat
Well, in principle, I am quite satisfied with a thin - 0.8 mm - silicone mat, everything freezes on it, but first I kind of "rub" or "rub" it with flour. flour is not visible, dumplings are clean. It's kind of like a preventive measure - well, how does it stick, what then
most importantly, turn the freezer into Turbo mode in advance, three hours before. and everything quickly freezes. You can go to the balcony, now it's cold here, up to -20 and below at night, but it's very dreary to run in the cold)))
Black_cat
mgla
I'm just afraid to jinx it .. Something is floating around with this plastic device, it seems like it is not there. Although sales are going on in Chinese taobao too.
Good luck to you.
mgla
Thank you, Black_cat! To be afraid already nothing: the order is no longer sent from the seller himself, but from the warehouses of rutaobao, that is, the unit is received, packaged and ready for shipment to the buyer.
I ordered from the link that I gave above, during the Chinese holidays, I paid. There were no difficulties. I paid about $ 5 to the original amount, since the actual weight of the parcel turned out to be more than what I had originally indicated. I chose regular mail, since EMS turns out to be unreasonably expensive for such a thing (by the way, the EMS delivery of the Kenwood kitchen machine cost me half the cost of the machine itself, but that was Kenwood).
I will try a dumpling machine, if I don’t like it, I will order one like Black_cat
Black_cat
mgla
I think you will order.
for the plastic one has too many parts. and there is nowhere to put the rest of the dough - if there are any, there is also a noodle attachment in my car.
matroskin_kot
Well, I’ve already calmed down, I joined Natalya in the order, but for the sake of curiosity, I looked - so my computer doesn’t want to look for this link, it’s strange, however ... I’m playing with Kenwood so far ... I’m playing with buns ... Margarita, and how long does it take to get an order to Kazakhstan, on average? Not long, I guess? Rutaobao somehow works selectively ...
mgla
matroskin_kot, maybe those. work was carried out at this time, then at least from where you will not come. And how long he will stay on the way - only one mail knows. It works very well, sometimes very badly. Here I am definitely afraid to jinx it!
Black_cat, "plasticity" and the presence of many details are also somewhat confusing to me. Then I decided: what is better to buy and regret than not to buy and think "what if it would be better." Another factor that worked was that I had only one address for a plastic typewriter on Rutaobao, and many for metal ones, so you can safely order later. To be honest, I think I will order a metal one too. I'll try which one is acceptable for me, and I'll give the other one to my relatives.
Natay
Quote: Black_cat

mgla
There is nowhere to put the rest of the dough - if there are any, there is also a noodle maker in my car.

Well, this dough is not very suitable for noodles. Since the dough for dumplings is better without eggs. And you understand noodles without eggs. Although if I didn't have a noodle cutter, I would think about this model.
agrotex
Hello!! Please help me make a decision to leave La fabrica della Pasta "Imperia" which makes ravioli or to hand it over to the store. My husband gave it on March 8th. I read the forums, I was upset that not everyone can make dumplings on it. Share if someone has a positive experience
Black_cat
agrotex
Well, they all make dumplings (if there is such a gadget) and ravioli. But there is a lot of fuss. it is easier to roll out the dough into a tape, put the minced meat on this tape-flap and fold the tape in half along the length. Cut the resulting workpiece with grooves or a dough knife - here's the ravioli. So that it sticks together well, it is advisable to moisten a flap of dough with an egg or at least water.
Another tip - climb on Youtube and search for making pasta on imperia machine
or imperia ravioli maker type
quite clearly seen if not heard in English
Natay
Quote: Nata333

Natay, tell me, what is the thickness of the dough in the finished dumpling?
For me, the sculpting process itself is a complete disaster, So I am happy with the Tortyzhkin mantas, there are only 3 tucks. But you have to wait for them 40 minutes ...
The only thing that can stop me from buying such a machine is too thick (in my opinion) dough at the exit.
If it's not difficult for you, take a photo of the finished dumpling in a cut (boiled or raw) with something to scale.
I will be very grateful

In my opinion, it is not thick at all. I'll insert pictures in the evening.

Quote: mgla

Natay, and if possible - the approximate ratio of flour and water for this dough and wishes for changing its consistency in relation to dumplings. My car has already arrived, but because of the holidays it got stuck at customs. As soon as I get it, I want to try it right away, and the "ideal" dough for this machine is already a matter of time.

I won't say the ratio right away, and everyone's flour is different. I poured flour on my eyes, but for 400 ml of liquid. This is where it is just one run. I ruled out the eggs. The dough with eggs began to tear, without eggs it turns out more elastic. The last time I got out one more nuance - I took the minced meat from the freezer and it turned out to be a little thin. And it should be plastic, but not liquid! And when sculpting, extra liquid went, and from this they did not want to "stick together" in the end they got a kind of dumplings. But I want to note that they were successfully eaten and did not fall apart during cooking. And my husband, it seemed to me so, under the sour cream did not even notice that they were not much of a presentation
P.S. Mom refused such a gift (she wanted to give it). It's easier for her with ruts, but the consistency of the dough, minced meat, in general, said this not for me
Natay
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli

Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli
mgla
Natay, and I'm talking about the dough again. Was it the same hardness as for ordinary dumplings, or should it be made softer?
Natay
Quote: mgla

Natay, and I'm talking about the dough again. Was it the same hardness as for ordinary dumplings, or should it be made softer?

With eggs, the dough did not work for me personally - the dough vomited and it was hammered in the finished dumplings. Then without eggs - much better and more elastic. I poured flour onto the eye, or rather to the touch, if it doesn't stick to your fingers, it won't close up the machine. The dough was kneaded by a bread maker. They write there and in the instructions that the dough should be soft but not sticky.

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