Air conditioners

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, Tanyush, given that now my work is partially related to air conditioners, I can safely advise and advise about some models ...
Here is an example - Mitsubishi, so well-advertised by everyone - how many they called for the repair of these models this year - I will not even speak and it is not so easy to repair them ... and some tiny garbage is flying, the cost of which is already horrifying , so here the cost of work also needs to be added ...
In short, I initially set all my buying acquaintances that the service life of the air conditioner is 5 years +/- 2 years, depending on the correct use and place of use - the air conditioners break down faster in offices ... Therefore, for a long time I have been saying - do not chase expensive models - their filters become clogged in the same way as in cheap factory copies.

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, Anna, in an office up to 35 square meters, which is better than Samsung, LG, Hitachi or what is more maintainable?

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Sash, to be honest, you need to consult (I work as an estimator), but of the listed models, I think that Hitachi will be better.
I'll be at the office tomorrow and check it out.
We have Kentatsu (expensive) in one office only for the second year, and he works several times worse than Medea (average, even more precisely, cheap), which has been plowing for 3-4 years like an hour.
In general, tomorrow I will say for sure which is better ...

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, we have a discount of about 2 thousand on the official site of Panasonic. there they just took multi and microwave ovens and a thermopot bread machine That's why they thought about Panasonic.
These are the models.
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[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Sash, that's what I learned - from the listed models, I definitely take Hitachi. For your area, the 18th modification is best. 12th may not be enough, especially if there is also a sunny side.
They said not even to look at the Samsung.

kokoshka, Lesars are made in China, just like most other models. There may be such an option that the production of parts can be European, but the assembly is still done on a Chinese conveyor.
Of those models that you indicated at 7, do not even look - 9 is quite suitable for you. The 12th modification may already be too much.

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, thank you very much for helping. Please tell me, what do you think about the Panasonic models I posted above the links?

* Anyuta *, thank you very much for helping. Please tell me, what do you think about the Panasonic models I posted above the links?

Of those models that you indicated at 7, do not even look - 9 is quite suitable for you. The 12th modification may already be a bit too much

And yet - an important point - pay attention to the fact that the more powerful the air conditioner, the more electricity it consumes !!!

Yes, it is important! They also said a trusted company with a service center would better install it.
Anyuta, what do you think about those models?

[kokoshka]

kokoshka, Lilechka, 2 times already answered you ... take 9-ku, because 7-ka will be right next to ... 9-ka will be just right.
I want to draw your attention to the fact that this is a mediocre Chinese assembly, the Malaysian one will be slightly more expensive, but there the plastic is better and the assembly itself is also better.

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, oh, but I didn't understand, I was just thinking about the nine
Thanks Anyuta, perhaps we will do so, the discount for two thousand lures.

kokoshka, take a look here - 🔗
I already asked here, they helped me a lot ... The installer has already begun to spin up a new air conditioner, and then they offered diagnostics and maintenance - as a result, everything works ...
In general, they will advise ...

[vatruska]

vatruska, thank you very much, went to watch!

[vatruska]

vatruska, what did you buy?

I have a Samsung inverter of the 12th series of 2011 release. I say right away - despite a 3-year warranty, I was denied free diagnostics and repairs. True, as it turned out now, what was needed was just normal service.

Recently bought an air conditioner, Ballu City. The same three-year warranty, but I hope I won't have to apply. The parents of this company, but the older model has been plowing for 4 years without a single problem.

[Kirinka]

Kirinka, Congratulations!
I am just before the task of ordering and installing an air conditioner, advised inventory Toshiba 10EKV-EE.
They said price-quality.
Maybe someone has something

[vatruska]

vatruska, and on what grounds were they refused?

Said they only had a year's warranty despite the sticker. The guys from the service, however, offered to remove the device and take it to the diagnostics, but in general they did not advise - as they said - no one else could work better after that.
On the other hand, oddly enough, everything very much depends on competent service - you can't forget about it, and no matter how sorry it is, it is necessary to pay money for a complete cleaning of the air conditioner once a year. The problem is where to find such service providers. I've only found it the second time, and the first ones (by the way, the same ones who installed) have already started a divorce on a new device - like this is a bad marriage and cannot be repaired.

Again, it all comes down to the fact that when buying, you need to look not only for a good product, but also for a company that has good service.

[vatruska]

vatruska, what about the firm with the sata city of Masters, what did you give? It was Toshiba who was advised to me and they undertake to install it.

I really liked these guys ... After them the kondeychik worked as good as new (pah-pah-pah ...)

[vatruska]

vatruska, Thank you! Probably travel, I hope we have a real cantor's mantle

[* Anyuta *]

Good evening! * Anyuta *, can you tell me about the air conditioner? One-room apartment, room 19 m2, corridor, kitchen 7m2. The doors are never closed. The side of the house faces south / southeast, that is, the sun shines into the apartment for most of the day, the walls are already heating up ... A certain amount has not yet been allocated, so we will consider all the options.

suggest about the air conditioner

Of course I will ... just what to tell you? and how urgent? I’m just on vacation now, but even at sea I have to do work and I don’t find out about air conditioners from anyone. If I know anything, I will answer. Something specific - will have to endure until June 12.
I can say right away: the cheapest (including branded ones) are now only in Leroy Merlin - don't even consider the Internet. They also have the cheapest installation. But this is in our city. Even when purchasing from direct suppliers (at a wholesale price), our air conditioners came out more expensive by 5 thousand each than in Leroy (they took them in the spring - we had to install them on objects - and the cheapest of the factory ones).

Ltd. Sorry to distract you on vacation.
we want to install it ourselves. the model and brand have not even been chosen yet .. I just finally got tired of collecting fluff and dust around the apartment and I decided to insist on a condo.

we want to install it ourselves.

This is, of course, savings. But, after installation, you need to measure the level of the frion (with a special device) and, possibly, refuel. Do you have such an opportunity (device)?

[* Anyuta *]

* Anyuta *, have a nice rest!

have a nice rest!

Alain, your words, yes to God in the ears ... I sit here on the beach and work at full speed ... I have no time to rest ... And I can not not work - this is the earnings on which I actually go to rest .. So you have to combine the pleasant with the necessary ...

Well, at least something nice - it's nicer on the beach than in the office!

Girls and men, seasoned connoisseurs of air conditioning. This is a cry from the heart!
We have a wild heat of +34 and the issue of air conditioning became very acute, and I was not prepared in this matter, I put everything on my husband's shoulders. But today he pulled the fan (the last vent) "into his room." And I realized, again I have to tackle it.Until now, we have done without an air conditioner - because we react very badly ("dry up" and that's it, throat, snot, etc.). But someone said that this is just a bad air conditioner or in general somehow it can be avoided.
We have an attic (we live on the roof), the rooms are not separated by doors - this is such a huge studio 120 sq m with a height of 5.5 mm. you need something very powerful.
Please push in the right direction. Where to start digging?

Where to start digging?

Any company selling kondeya in your city. Call them, tell them your area and the amount for which you are counting and they will select from 5 to 10 options for different models, and then the Yandex market or otzovik will help you - read the reviews and choose what you like best for the price / quality / reviews

The other day we took a Dantex inverter. Several rooms on the second floor (attic). They put it in our bedroom. since here the most powerful cooling of husbands brains and bodies is required. I am a thermophilic creature, I can tolerate heat and. We turn on mainly at night. It cools down with us, then the hall is about 8 squares and blows into the daughter's room, located slightly obliquely. The husband is wildly pleased. The family was reunited (before that, the husband went to sleep on the first floor in the heat). The daughter sleeps up to her ears.
Here.

And I also realized that I had to invite competent installers first. if you put more than one specific room. We expected to hang in one place. We bought a condo for this. And the installers on the spot said that there would be no sense from this. It's good that we found an alternative and successful option. Otherwise I would have to change the condo.

Inverter ... yeah ... I'll take a look. It is clear that the professionals will install. you have to imagine at least a little what they will offer. Thank you, I moved on.

And I also realized that I had to invite competent installers first.

If they sell an air conditioner and install it different companies, then you can safely give up on guarantees.
I do not argue that this option may also suit many, but this should be clearly understood.

[plateau]

Three years ago, we installed Pioneer inverter splits for 35kv. m, they are very satisfied with the work, you can sleep peacefully at night. There was enough coolness for the entire 100 sq. m
But yesterday one split stopped supplying chilled air. I called service centers today, everyone says that repairs are very expensive, it is more profitable to buy a new one. They say it flies plateau, and costs around 500 euros.

Then we called specialists, two different companies came, they said that it was beyond repair.

Added Thursday, 16 Jun 2016 03:36 PM

My split was diagnosed, the plateau of the external block was "covered". Inverter split systems cannot be repaired. I haven't even worked for three years. I read the reviews of experts who write that in the Rostov region they cannot be installed at all, we have high humidity, and the plateau on inverters is afraid of humidity. True, the second split works. So you have to install the usual one, here is the new one unplanned wishlist.
Do not succumb to the persuasion of sellers, do not buy inverters. What kind of energy savings is there if you change the split after 3 years.

I specially inserted my old messages to make it clear.
We then installed a new split Wenterra.
We were constantly cleaning the air filters on both splits, but then I accidentally saw something incomprehensible in the depths of the split, which scared me very much.
I called the master to clean the split, everyone was shocked. I will expose the photo later, it does not work from the smartphone.
The guys are young, they cleaned everything very quickly.
And how the splits were turned on ... even the new ones didn't work like that.
True, it is very difficult to clean the inverter, I disassembled the entire split system with the disconnection of the wires.
I said that we still have a faulty inverter split that cannot be repaired.
He asked to pick him up and see what happened to him.
Exactly a week has passed, the split was delivered in good condition and there was no need to change the "plateau".
We decided to leave the houses in reserve.
So buy inverter splits, I like them more at work, there is something to compare with.

Inverter split is a big deal! We turn on only at night. It works very quietly. Moreover, we have absolutely no driven Dantex.

[Alla]

Alla, it became really interesting what was there

If the air conditioner is sold and installed by different companies, then you can safely give up on guarantees.

It's not your truth. Guaranteed when correct! installation is saved. That year, the split was changed under warranty, third-party installers did not put a stamp on installation in the passport, and we changed it without any problems, the warranty repair master arrived, checked and issued a verdict that the repair would be more expensive, and we changed not only the split, but also installation of a new one and dismantling of an old one was from the seller.

It's not your truth. Guaranteed when correct! installation is saved.

I'm just glad!
But I've read too many cases when the store and the installer bring down faults on top of each other. (((I watched how they put it to us. Guess whether or not they installed it correctly or not, when they even took the vacuumator with them only after I ran into the store owner that "needed". And, as for me, they vacuumized too a little, although later the system was purged with freon. Like, we have been doing this all our lives ...

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lena, I will call the foreman, I will clarify about the problems.
We bought two Pioneer splits in the same store that summer, two months apart.
The first one was taken from the warehouse ourselves. And when we bought the second one, we were told that the warehouse was closed, the installers would bring it themselves. In the store, they had a split on the display window, apparently it fell into our hands. Upon opening the package, it was evident that the box had been opened. Another team arrived and they installed it differently from the first. And when you turn it on, an unpleasant smell appeared immediately, some caustic one. They said that the new ones all smell like that.
But when the first was connected, this was not the case.
It was September, so he hadn't worked much. In winter they did not turn on, there is also heating here.
In the summer they turned on, but the smell does not go away. I called the brigade, they quickly looked, found nothing, only paid for the call. I worked for two summers in total.
And the first is the sixth season.

[francevna]

francevna, look for normal service workers ... with straight handles ...

look for normal service workers ... with straight handles ...

This is a guarantee of long-term operation of any technique! When we bought a gas boiler, we were also told: look for someone who has better service.

[Alenka212]

Alenka212, worse ... this is a guarantee of work in general ... I've already written about the epic with our kondey ... everything was cured with the arrival of service masters from the ixbt forum

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lena, according to Chinese firms you can tell, you need an inexpensive (up to 25t.) Inverter.
There are many firms, the price is about the same. There is a wizard, but I want to hear other opinions.

[NOT]

firms Chinese

And what we have for sale NOT Chinese air conditioners?

If you look, that is - Malaysia, Taiwan.

[first of all]

that is - Malaysia, Taiwan.

These are usually models of the De-Lux or Premium series.
And yet, the definition

you need an inexpensive (up to 25t.)

says absolutely nothing.
In order to focus on the price you need first of all give the dimensions of the room in which the condo is planned to be installed

[* Anyuta *]

20m

Posted Saturday 21 Jan 2017 5:07 PM

* Anyuta *, Anya, I had a cond. 6 years old, inverter.
If you can answer my question, I will be grateful, I know the basics of finding a kondeya. I don't understand firms.