*** yana ***
Quote: Asmoloff

So, we bought a LG 2001BY bread maker as a gift. Panasonic themselves are in constant operation ...
It cannot be compared with the Panasonic Easter cake - the cake there turns out to be very lush and tasty, like mother's buns!
Then they tried to make French according to the program, but according to the recipe from Panasonic
1. In LG, Koreans for some reason came up with the idea that the bread cools down for 20 minutes at the end. This is completely wrong - it doesn't get a crispy crust, it dampens it right in the bread maker.
2. Why is LG first filled with water and then flour? This is also wrong, water can seep through the axle, although so far everything has been tried as in the instructions.
Conclusion:
We are thinking to return and buy Panasonic.
Don't skimp on yourself, these bread makers cannot be compared.
What nonsense is written! At first I had a lie. She worked fine for 11 years, but the oil seal could not stand it, now again both false and Panasonic. and the clathronic between them was ... a false good oven and excellent cakes come out. handles only need correct and experience. and on different stoves, the water-flour ratio is slightly different due to the installed programs ...
on both counts is not a fact. if the bread is taken out immediately, its crust will crunch, but it will crumble strongly, which is why they give 20 minutes ... according to the baking technology it is necessary ... if you do not immediately get the bread in the pansonica, it is also moist from below ... and everything is fine ....
the sequence of bookmarks of products is not important, and discussed here on the forum, and proven by experience. in practice, first the oil down to protect the oil seal, then water, and on top of the flour, salt, sugar ... so that it does not dust and the sugar does not scrape the coating ...
Bridge
Quote: Listener

Good day to all!
I carefully studied the topic, did not find a mention of the "Special" mode
There is not a single recipe for it in the recipe book.
Can anyone say something?
I can say. This mode is intended for baked goods containing a lot of butter and sugar, eggs, cheese (as it is written in the instructions). That is, cake can be baked in this mode. So, look at the recipe, if there is a lot of baking in it, then we select the "special" mode.
angry hedgehog
Good people, help with advice.

I bought this miracle of technology.
result:
1 bread unbaked (not allowed)
You can eat 2 bread, but I would still bake it b.
the cupcake at the bottom and center is not baked.
3 I bake bread now in order to find out what I'm doing wrong.
I throw everything strictly as it should.
What's wrong with me?
the comments on this in the instructions do not suit me.
This is not the first time I have baked yeast - I am familiar with baking in the oven - everything always worked out there.
*** yana ***
angry hedgehog do not panic! I throw everything strictly as it should
there are flaws in all recipe books, even in Panasonic's one .. you need to take a proven recipe from the site, simple, but at an average weight to your hp and check what kind of bread will turn out ... the main thing is proportions and choose the right program ...
the cupcake in hp turns out to be not the same as in the oven. many bake, re-including baking and bake for 40-60 minutes at least ... I personally don’t like cupcakes from hp-heavy, wet ... everything will work out ...
Chick
It's strange, I got everything from the first bread with a bang, the recipe book is excellent, I'm already insolent and sometimes pour it over my eyes, I add whatever my heart desires (cheese, sausage, herbs, onions, mushrooms, candied fruits, chocolate, dried fruits, nuts, boiled meat , dry broths, marmalade, spices, apples), I bake mainly on French SAF yeast, but only a few times at Fermipan bread on the French mode rose terribly and rested against the window. I noticed that sooooo much depends on flour,maybe you have a problem with this, or maybe your mode is set to a light crust and the bread is not baked.
valushka
angry hedgehog , don't panic!
give the recipe you are doing. (products, quantity, sequence). Does the dough rise normally? just unbaked? or doesn't it work at all?
angry hedgehog
I just bought ... a recipe strictly from a book. I tried French bread, white table bread and some kind of muffin.
Rises perfectly just not baked. In one of the cases, a hat of bread settled, but not in a hole, but at the level of the sides
I empirically increased the amount of flour in excess of the norm by as much as 4 tablespoons (as in my opinion the bun should be) - then the bread turned out. and ... and also set the crust mode to dark.
Listener
Quote: angry hedgehog

I empirically increased the amount of flour in excess of the norm by as much as 4 tablespoons (as in my opinion the bun should be) - then the bread turned out.
it looks like you have wet flour
buy baking flour. In St. Petersburg, I always take the pre-port. And yeast saf moment.
angry hedgehog
I always buy the same flour in the store. I bought it for baking bread yesterday - so there are some stabilizers and emulsifiers .... why do I need such flour? want without it.
mowgli
And I put a dark crust everywhere, except for Kulich and everywhere I add spoons 2 tablespoons. butter, then the bread is golden ..
angry hedgehog
and I also took saf yeast - as a book writes.
But the butter in the bread is written with butter - you just replace it with sunflower?
mowgli
No, where I put butter, instead of a saf-moment I buy a large pack of Pakmai, I like them more .. but in the recipe for French bread there is no butter at all, but I put it all the same .. Of all the recipes, we stopped at this one .. Sometimes I make bread with beer, sour cream, onion .. But I don’t like sweets at all .. But my model is old, it doesn’t bake cupcakes, and yours, as I understand it, bakes .. Mine has been serving me for the ninth year already .. Super everything, just here my dumplings dough badly knead, but yeast dough is just super good ..
mowgli
And then, sometimes there is no butter, I put sunflower oil, and I also like to use liquid milk instead of dry milk - then pour it according to the recipe instead of water, but don't put milk powder, but this is provided if you do not put on the timer in the summer, otherwise will turn sour overnight, but in winter I put it .. Doesn't turn sour, I live on the ground floor in the kitchen is cool))
angry hedgehog
And if you put sunflower oil in French bread - do you compensate for this liquid with something or is it so simple?
did not set on the timer; but the thought is - the flour lies on the liquid - will it not turn into a stone in contact with the liquid overnight? and the bread will turn into a flour point
mowgli
I just put the oil. flour does not turn into stone .. And the smell ... in the morning .. you can go crazy !!!!
*** yana ***
Quote: angry hedgehog

And if you put sunflower oil in French bread - do you compensate for this liquid with something or is it so simple?
did not set on the timer; but the thought is - the flour lies on the liquid - will it not turn into a stone in contact with the liquid overnight? and the bread will turn into a flour point
vegetable oil does not compensate for anything and calmly replace it with butter, margarine, lard, ghee (in size relative to the recipe). and generally without butter, bread is baked without fat, it turns out to be dryish-rubbery ... from creamy-aromatic, from margarine - more fragile than from vegetable ...
delaying the timer until 1 pm does nothing wrong with the flour. bread turns out great .... flour dots are obtained only from hot liquid with flour, and we have room temperature there. the main thing is that the yeast does not soak ahead of time ...
if you are worried about milk, take one that is in cardboard packs with a long shelf life. it does not sour for a very long time
but I am interested in the oil mode in your stoves ... maybe someone will tell me how the program works ... does it heat up there or is it just spinning fast all the time?
angry hedgehog
*** Yana *** Of course I haven’t tried to make butter yet (although I bought the cream) - the instructions say what turns. does not heat anything.
there is even a plastic lid on the bucket (it is not suitable for warming up) - probably so that it does not splash
*** yana ***
angry hedgehog Thank you...means, in principle, nothing new. : as before, instead of a separator in a cocktail flask, we will do it on a combine ...
*** yana ***
angry hedgehog By the way, have you sorted out the stove? What kind of bread did you want?
angry hedgehog
Yes Yana, with oil it is almost the same
the bicycle was not reinvented.
figured out with bread so far. for this flour. practice - add 4 more tablespoons. then no problem.
Angry hedgehog 2
Hello everyone, I have the same problems with the stove as an angry hedgehog, what should I do? True, from homemade cream, butter makes excellently in 10 minutes, but it bakes, sentries, the kitchen does not have aroma, but the stench from yeast, and the bread is lumpy, the flour was changed, the tremors were changed, the guard, I don’t know, I haven’t tried to add more flour , I do everything according to the recipe
valushka
Angry hedgehog 2 , hmm ... can you put a lot of yeast? ... I've never had this ...
*** yana ***
Angry hedgehog 2 the recipe from where? if from the instructions, there may be typos ..
.dull bread due to improper proportions ... take the simplest recipe from the website and try to bake it on the main program ... read the basics for beginners ...
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in the kitchen there is no aroma, but the stench from yeast,
how do you measure yeast? figure it out with the dosage ... and they didn’t accidentally hit the heating elements?
the main thing is not to panic .....
Angry hedgehog 2
Thanks for the advice, I will try according to the site's recipes, I measure the yeast with a regular spoon from the oven
valushka
Quote: Angry Hedgehog 2

I measure yeast with a measuring spoon from the oven
small?
*** yana ***
Quote: valushka

small?
Yes Yes! measured, but one that small.... for a large loaf of 1.75 is the maximum ....
valushka
Quote: *** yana ***

Yes Yes! measured, but one that small.... for a large loaf of 1.75 is the maximum ....
for French, for example, for the largest loaf (1000 g) 2.5 teaspoons
*** yana ***
for French, for example, for the largest loaf (1000 g) 2.5 teaspoons
practice has shown that such a large amount of yeast is not needed .. well, if only for cake, there is a lot of baking ... And 1.75 is enough. and if it is dough to do, then 1 measuring small is enough for me (for 600 grams of flour +400 water) ..
valushka
I am currently making two types of bread. Alternately on ripe dough and French)
I'll try to put less yeast in French
*** yana ***
in here we conducted experiments, it may be interesting:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...n=com_smf&topic=128512.30
Angry hedgehog 2
I put it according to the recipes, there is standard: either two small measuring spoons, or 2.5
Angry hedgehog 2
And what about the stop button, that I didn't try to press it, there's no sense
valushka
Quote: Angry Hedgehog 2

And what about the stop button, that I didn't try to press it, there's no sense
I, too, did not immediately realize about this button))) I already thought that the stove was defective))) but you just need to press it and hold it for a few seconds
kolye
Help! Lost the book for the bread maker OOOOOOOOooo need jam recipes from our book! Please share !!!
Natik2009
Girls, help !!! I want to bake bread for the first time in the oven (before that I only kneaded yeast dough according to the recipes of the forum), please share a proven recipe for rye and wheat bread and what mode to bake. And then I'm completely confused in the recipes. some kind of yeast is needed ... but without them you can?
*** yana ***
Natik2009
And then I completely got confused in the recipes. some kind of yeast is needed ... but without them you can?
of course you can .... leaven is made by those who have already learned to bake different breads ... start with the simplest .. read here? bread recipe from the recipe book for your oven. follow the instructions https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=67895.0
and here, just in case, maybe you will find something useful for yourself ...
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Natik2009
Quote: *** yana ***

Natik2009of course you can .... read here? recipe bread for your ovenhttps://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=67895.0
Thank you, I'll try it first, the girls just wrote that it's better to take recipes from the forum, so I'm interested))) I want to bake rye, many praise "Narochansky", but the leaven is needed there, can you somehow or not without it?
melrin
Any advice? start with French or white with a little book, there are good recipes. I baked almost everything at once. I really liked it. The main thing is to understand the principle of work, and then experiment, but this is my opinion, please do not be offended.
*** yana ***
I would like to bake rye, many praise "Narochanskiy", but there is a need for sourdough, maybe you can somehow without it or not?
There are a lot of recipes for rye bread, each one adapts to its own taste ... there is no leaven. but that's a different recipe. : yes: rye can also be baked with dry yeast. for color and taste just different additives go. classic-malt, alternative-tea, cafes, dry kvass, kvass wort ..... who likes what and what is available.
mowgli
Quote: melrin

Any advice? start with French or white with a little book
better from French. always incomparable !!!
Waist70
Quote: valushka

Well, here I became the owner of a bread machine!) Urya Urya Urya!)
For a long time I looked at them, I thought it was like I didn't really need her. Rather, I really wanted to, but with money now not very much, so I doubted very much. And MCH (we live together) said: well, why do you need her? a waste of money! went to the store, bought - and no problem! And here a week ago there was no bread at home in the evening. We didn't go to the store, and in the morning we need bread ... and I decided to try to bake bread in the oven. Never baked before. Wonderful bread turned out! I didn't expect it! but as the MCH did not expect The whole loaf was eaten in a couple of hours (they constantly ran to the kitchen to take a piece) On the same day, the begging eyes of the MCH looked at me with a request to bake more, questions, is it difficult with the phrase: "I probably need a bread machine to help you buy "
I started reading about different models, lost in the choice. The eye immediately fell on the Panasonic 255 ... everyone liked it, except for the price)) then I also liked Kenwood BM450. I started reading the discussion here. what's better. the price was already drummed))) lit up already))) but still somewhere in my head the STOP signal was triggered ... the price is still ... and is it really necessary ... and today I was looking through information about bread makers on the Internet -shop, and saw information about LG HB-3001BYT ... interested in the functions YOGHURT and BUTTER ... I still heard about the fact that yogurt is made in bread makers (or rather, I read recently), but about butter - something new. I also looked at LG HB-2001BY. The same, only in 2001 there is a window, and in 3001 there is a dispenser instead of a window. the price varied in UAH 200. with a penny. 2001 - cheaper. And it was with them that I caught fire for some reason. I read the reviews - everyone seems to be happy, they are praising. I began to rush between them)) At first I leaned towards 3001. I wanted to use a dispenser. Then I thought that in principle it is not difficult for me to throw in raisins or some kind of additive at the signal. And at night you can put something without additives.
BUT ... all the same, I always want to buy something where there are more functions))) But the problem was solved easier)) in the online store in which I buy equipment - 3001 was not available .. it was 2001 so I was happy and ordered)

Here she is, my beauty!)

Bread maker LG HB-2001BY (with functions of yoghurt and butter)

here's everything that came with the kit:

Bread maker LG HB-2001BY (with functions of yoghurt and butter)

In general, I'm happy with the purchase! we will try and experiment. It is very interesting for me to cook yoghurt and butter in it. I think this is how it will turn out ..
How I cook - I will definitely write about the results!
Thank you all for your attention. Report ended
As I envy you, I also read a lot about this miracle ... but in Kaliningrad, LG bread makers do not eat with fire during the day
mowgli
I also put sugar on a spoon or a half less
Alenk_a
oh girls, and I'm in thought
I read a lot of reviews and got lost in choosing a stove, it seems like this one suits me in all its functions, but there are also negative ones, although if you look sensibly, even 100 dollars cannot be liked by everyone, someone loves the euro
do skis break often? share your experience
*** yana ***
do skis break often? share your experience
my 8 years first worked, and then her bucket leaked ... a new one can be bought in the service at an intelligible price ..... now a Panasonic ... of course, it bakes better, but his spare bucket is much more expensive ... I hope not will come in handy soon ..
Alenk_a
Quote: *** yana ***

my 8 years ...now Panasonic ... of course, it bakes better,

this is what gnaws at me, although I have nothing to compare with, but I need it to bake well))) I have 3 male dependents sitting on my neck and everyone loves flour)))
Waist70
Quote: Alenk_a

this is what gnaws at me, although I have nothing to compare with, but I need it to bake well))) I have 3 male dependents sitting on my neck and everyone loves flour)))
If there is no extra money, take LG. At Panasonic, a bucket costs half the cost of the stove itself ...
*** yana ***
Quote: Alenk_a

this is what gnaws at me, although I have nothing to compare with, but I need it to bake well))) I have 3 male dependents sitting around my neck and everyone loves flour)))
I have 255 model, and now models with higher numbers are on sale. I can't say anything for them ... by the way, I had a clathronic too - it was ok too ... by the way, I'm not sure if I bought a Panasonic if then they sold such an LG HB-2001BY ... the price nicer and yogurt makes ...
Elenka
Can I share ...
I also have LG - 202 model. I bought it almost 3 years ago, it cost a little more than $ 100. e. Not the most expensive and not the cheapest. What can I say - the stove is normal. I baked and baked often, at first at least 2-3 times a day (I wanted to try a lot in it), now it is less, but we have only been eating our own bread for these 3 years. That is, I exploited it to the fullest.
HP justifies itself, only the bucket broke (flowed), I have no more complaints about it. I bake any bread in it, I have not used a book with recipes for a long time. I scooped all the recipes here.
Of course, Panasonic will be better, but this is if finances allow.
*** yana ***
as it turned out, all stoves are now sick with buckets ... so at least the new one is cheaper, more affordable on LV, and in general, even oil seals are sold separately for it ...
mowgli
And my bucket is cool, very durable !!! and the bread maker is 8 years old !!!! And he is not going to retire, the only thing is that new ones are already baking, and dumplings are not kneading well, so I want a new one ..

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