Tanyusha
natasic2466 Spidem has inexpensive coffee machines and the reviews on them are good, look maybe something you like. Look more at online coffee shops, they all sell coffee machines.
Margot
natasic2466 I have such a machine, it makes coffee very well. And her price is wonderful, if you try, you can find from 11,000 to ..., at the old prices, we have one left in our store; they sell it at all for 7,000 or 8,000 rubles, but there is a marriage, a plastic container is broken where coffee is poured ... We bought it in Eldorado, so try to search, maybe where we stayed at the old prices
natasic2466
tanya1962, Margot, thanks, we will search
Omela
Quote: Aunt Besya

I have a new Wishlist !!! Urgently need to be dissuaded !!!

Nooo !!! I can't head on !!!!! The thing is really cool and necessary (if you like coffee). The taste is amazing. (y) The only thing is, I would choose another manufacturer (this is my opinion). As the experts explained to me, the manufacturer should only produce coffee makers and coffee machines. For example, such 🔗
lina
So so so...
1. But this automatic cappuccino maker - do you need it? what for you cappuccino, is it better to drink espresso?
2. Are you sure that it makes sense to buy a coffee machine from this manufacturer? or is it better yura, gadzhiyu, sayeko ... mukuu? well, or at least bosh?
3. Well, okay, the water is flooded, the grains are filled up, that's understandable. and milk? every time fill it up, wash it ... it's dreary .... in the morning the zombie-besya has to mess around with milk too? And wash the coffee machine off him?
Alexandra
Mukka is the very thing aunt Besechka
I want espresso, I want a cappuccino ... my Saeko with a cappuccinator has long migrated to the mezzanine

Or, if you really "walk" - the autocappuccinator Aerochchino Plus. A separate small jug, pour milk at a time and in a minute we have a choice - hot or cold foam for cappuccino / macchiato, milk for latte. Rinse off then - that's all. No valve tubes.
Tanyusha
Aunt Besya not DELONGHI Zvezda has a coffee machine from this manufacturer for 6 months. was under renovation and so did not renovate, she bought another.
In general, Aunt Besya, I’m dissuading you from the manufacturer, but I’m not buying it, because I myself want a coffee machine, it remains to persuade my husband, but I think there is not much left.
Aunt Besya
We must probably leave here for a Temka about coffee machines, but oh well, I'll transfer everything a little later. Why this model?
1. I don't drink expresso at all, only cappuccino or latte.
2.I don't want to stand at the stove (and I have electric, glass-ceramics) with mukka - there is no time, and if I haven't looked, it is not for me to wash the stove
3. At first, of course, Saeko began to look, and then, as she saw how many complaints there were on them, exactly on those models that were with cappuccinators, she immediately stopped thinking about her. By the way, the last acquisition of Zvezda - Saeko has already broken down and it was in the cappuccinator.
4. Delonge is not a specialized company, but there are ONLY positive reviews about it on the network, and about this model in particular, only enthusiastic ones. And compact, and auto-wash, and pleasant design, and prepares three types of coffee. Latte makeup, as they say, turns out exactly the right one, with clear layers.
5. I want an automatic cappuccinator - if you still rinse, then at least not stand with a mug near the panarello.
6.want
This is the rationale for "Wishlist". So far, there are only two three arguments:
1.to put nowhere
2.price
3.I lived without her and will continue to live
What is autocapuccinator Aerochchino Plus?
lina
Aunt Besya, you didn't immediately provide a justification
As I dissuaded - so from my bell tower, I drink only espresso. The conclusion suggests itself - we must take!
1. how many squares is the kitchen? We are diligently looking for a corner (somewhere I laid out a photo - the coffee machine is under the hanging micrometer).
2. Well ... everything is relative ...IMHO - the normal price for a coffee machine (especially where on terms of self-pickup). And after all, every day will delight!
3. I used to live without a washing machine.
Well, how did it help?
Alexandra
Aunt Besya, like this

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Only Nespresso itself is cheaper.

If you have nowhere to put and drink cappuccino - consider the crumb - Mukka, there is a whole branch about it here. Two in one, coffee is brewed immediately and foam is whipped.
Rita
Aunt Besya,
what a beautiful coffee machine! Is it more expensive than a cuckoo? There is always a place for a good thing in the kitchen, on the same practically unused stove. Moreover, now nothing to fry on it, and the car will not splash.
Ugh on me, ugh! Dissuaded, dissuaded. I once had a machine with a cappuccino maker that had to be immersed in milk - an extraordinary disgusting thing. And while you whip up this milk, and while you wash it all, it is better to hot, until it has frozen ... And the coffee is cooling down at this time. I got tired. Since then, I am no longer interested in coffee machines. But this model works according to some other principle.
zvezda
I came to treat or vice versa ... well, how it will turn out !!! In general, the first car I really had was a DeLongey 6600 and at first the coffee grinder and then the control panel flew in it, but they are not in repair !!! But!!!! As I found out only a month ago .... the fault is completely mine !!! But this is only I know .... I began to use and, moreover, ONLY flavored coffee, which is categorically unacceptable in such machines !!!! Now all my agony with the acquisition of another already knows ... the first two are Siemens .... well, a super car ... both with marriage and did not work, I did not take any further risks. Next with a Saeko cappuccino maker. Probably she realized that I did not want her and flowed safely after 4 days ... a huge minus - after EACH cup of cappuccino, you need to wash the cappuccino maker (though automatically, but still taking everything out). I took Saeko easier .... I'm not overjoyed !!! True, she also plugged the hole for a month for ponarello and he did not froth milk for me ... in general, the goose itself !!! BUT!!!! If at that moment there was the car that Aunt Basya had chosen, I would have taken it without hesitation !!!
Regarding washing the glass, it is absolutely not necessary to wash it every time !!! I drank coffee, or else. what is left calmly put in the refrigerator !!! Well this is kind of a storage vessel !! And the nose there is washed with one click on the button. We washed it no more than once a week ... but cappuccino, latte, macchiato, any choice with one click !!! In general, it's up to you to decide, but I'm FOR Delongee .... although I really like coffee in Saeko !!!!
zvezda
zvezda
Y.Bruser
It is a pity that I did not get to this section of the forum earlier. For many years, being a coffee maniac, he dreamed of a coffee machine. I cooked it in Turk, then the espresso coffee machine Rowenta, but in May 2009 I made myself a present for my birthday: BOSCH-benvenuto B70. In the evening, having filled up the expensive contraband grain lavazza top-gold, I was shocked - the machine grinded it, and then threw it into the garbage compartment, and the display, while blinking like light and music. The next day in "Domotechnika", where I bought it, I felt like a complete idiot - everything was fine. It turned out that it was a burnt outlet in the kitchen - there was no required voltage. In general, my BOSCH (assembly, by the way, Switzerland, I think it's Jura) does not like undervoltage - it pops, wheezes, flashes. With Siemens, I am sure, the same thing and in vain they changed two coffee machines. Since then, more than 3000 cups have already been brewed and pah-pah no problems: only at the signal I throw the tablets for cleaning. BOSCH is BOSCH !!! I have almost all of this company at home and no problems for many years. And with coffee I played with cappuccino, latte macchiatto, etc. and settled on a double espresso (ave. Very strong), and my wife "big coffee" (weak). I wish you success in choosing the right technique, because it is a source of great pleasure!
zvezda
In both Siemens found a factory defect! !! Apparently so lucky ....: - \ I myself love the technique of these brands !!! But now everything is fine. The most important thing is that I screwed up my first car myself .... I poured aromatized coffee !!! Now I drive only from Finka !!
Y.Bruser
I buy grain, mainly from the drivers of minibuses that carry guest workers to Italy.But its quality, like everything Italian, is very unstable: sometimes the aroma is for the whole apartment, and sometimes it is worse than the "Black Card". Don't even know which coffee to take? And I have a very wary attitude to Italian technology: I had an unhappy experience in operating an Iveco minibus in the 90s (I got into constant repairs for about $ 18,000), my mother Ardo and Indesit are rather flimsy and regularly buggy. And about Saeco: in the hairdresser's, on the first floor of my house, there is their machine. Not even a week that I would not see the master there. Something breaks constantly. Although DeLonghi bought the automatic ice cream maker: we have not seen other models with a compressor on sale. It works, creaks, squeaks, cracks, the thread on the lid is slightly uneven - but how much ice cream will you eat: 6-7 times a month. Hope to live long!
zvezda
Well, you see how it happens ..... I have Siemens with a marriage, and in the restaurant of my friend, Saeko has been standing for the 4th year (this, in principle, influenced the choice) and not a single repair !!! And our service is good !!
Aunt Besya
Well, as it were, I got the go-ahead from my husband to buy .... Someone here gave a link to the World of Coffee shop, because there are intelligent consultants. I called and asked about two models of interest Delonghi ECAM 23.450.S
and Saeco Primea Cappuccino Touch Plus. Recommended by DeLongey Motivation:
1.The quality and taste of the brewed coffee do not differ.
2. In Italy, there are three monopolists in coffee machines: Saeko, Yura and Delonge, that is, in terms of quality, they are the same
3.The external milk container is an incomparable plus, requires less (incomparably less) maintenance
4.Easy to maintain, less demanding for decalcification, washing, etc.
5.smaller
And according to Yandex-Market, there are simply no complaints, while there are very different reviews on Sayeko !!
The choice is made, it remains to buy and so-a-a-ask
A question for the owners of any CM: does steam release during work and how much? I have no place for her, except on the windowsill
Qween
Aunt Besya, buy Delongy, I think you won't regret it.
After a long selection process, I bought Delongy Diva, and now I enjoy watching how my beauty prepares different drinks.
And it is easier to take care of her, and she treats herself from scale and, in general, I love her dearly.
With the liquid drained from the car, after decalcification, I then perfectly clean the kettle, and the iron, and the taps and sho hosh ... Do not waste the good.
Aunt Besya
My dear coffee lovers !!! I tried to make the section more readable by creating several new topics by type of coffee machine... But, since I am not a great specialist in this area, I could make mistakes. If you see inaccuracies in the placement of posts, write to me in a personal, I will be very grateful!
Aunt Besya
Well ... now I am with you in the company, because just yesterday I became the owner of the Delongy ECAM 23.450S coffee machine.
I have been trying for a long time to tell the administration of this forum that one more moderator's load on some device and my family budget WILL NOT BE CUT TO !!!
Judge for yourself: I was assigned to aero grill, I bought AG, I was assigned to a pressure cooker, I got a cuckoo, now a coffee machine ... and that's not counting various other small devices
zvezda
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! : flowers: How are your impressions ??
Aunt Besya
While I am mastering ... She is beautiful !! The coffee is delicious, the froth is good ...
lina
Aunt Besya, with a new toy! Mine (bosh) is already a year and a half, so I'm not overjoyed at her
Aunt Besya
Thank you!!
The machine is like this
Coffee machine
Overall dimensions, mm 238х430х338
Weight, kg 9
Input power, W 1450
Pump pressure, bar 15
Double boiler is
There is a new thermoblock
Rated voltage / Frequency V / Hz 220-240 / 50-60
Water container volume, l 1.8
Bean container volume, g 150
Descaling program yes
The "Automatic Cappuccino" mode is
"Latte Macchiato" mode is
The "Caffelatte" mode is
Cappuccino system no
Removable drip tray is
Removable water tank is
Two-line digital display with icons
There is a choice for 1 cup
There is a choice for 2 cups
Silver / black
Omela
Aunt Besya , Congratulations!! Really beautiful !!! Is the milk container easy to disassemble and clean?
Aunt Besya
Well, in fact, the milk supply system is flushed with one button - there it is from the front right on the container. When the cappuccino is ready, the display shows "rinse the system, press the button". You press and hold for a few seconds - she spits out the rest of the milk and rinses herself with hot steam.
Omela
Taking a deep breath, I repeat like mantras: I have a coffee machine, I don't need such a coffee machine, I won't want it !!!
Aunt Besya
didn't help me ...
zvezda
Quote: Aunt Besya

didn't help me ...
I am so glad!!!!
Aunt Besya
Here's the infection: Just try to seduce me for something else
lina
Quote: Omela

Taking a deep breath, I repeat like mantras: I have a coffee machine, I don't need such a coffee machine, I won't want it !!!
drink only espresso, drink only espresso, drink only espresso ...
Caprice
Quote: Yu Brucer

And I have a very wary attitude towards Italian technology.
How can I understand you! The quality of Italian electrical goods leaves much to be desired!
ivann
I have been using the JURA ENA 3 coffee maker for a year now. This is the cheapest model from the JURA line, but it does everything that is required in full. I am very satisfied and have never regretted the choice. I even came to the conclusion that it was good that I preferred this model, because nothing else is needed from this coffee machine.
I still have a card with the opportunity to get a 15% discount when purchasing on the website www. I can give everyone a code.
zvezda
Quote: Aunt Besya

Here's the infection: Just try to seduce me for something else
And I already know how to seduce you ... I'll wait a little, otherwise ...
9oksana9
And to my mind, the Italians really do something, but they understand coffee well)) I had the pleasure of drinking espresso (coffee is also Italian) from the Delonga coffee machine and I perfectly understand all the unrestrained ones)
zvezda
I agree to all 100 !!!! Who else but Italy can be a leader in coffee ???? Excellent technique !!!
9oksana9
By the way, we somehow thought that it was really more profitable to get a coffee machine than to drink two cups of good espresso a day somewhere in a cafe))
zvezda
Here's a quote from a magazine polling coffee machine brands ...
It is well known that the best coffee machines are Italian ones, they are distinguished by high reliability and build quality. These are, for example, coffee machines from GAGGIA and SAECO (Saeco Odea, Saeco Odea Giro), etc. Other manufacturers are equally popular. For example, coffee machines Jura (Jura Impressa F50, Jura IMPRESSA C5), DeLonghi (Delonghi, DeLonghi ESAM 6600), Bosch (Bosh, Bosch, Bosch TCA), Krups (KRUPS XP 9000), Siemens, Nespresso, Spidem, Lavazza Espresso, Solis , Melitta ....
aaschulz
Quote: tanya1962

while Siemens, Krupp, Bosch, Delongy have coffee machines, as it were, by-product, so there are a lot of complaints about the machines of these companies.
Well, this is sheer nonsense. The coffee machine is such a primitive device that dozens of non-names replicate it. And for most brands, the filling is 50-80% identical. (Bosch and Siemens are generally the same).
Bosch has been working for me for about 5 years, the computer has exceeded 5000 infusions ... of course, there are no breakdowns, because this is Bosch.
There were Yura and Saeko before ... but no matter how the first one is not comfortable and fragile, and the second one is not traditionally friendly with assembly and design.
Lea
I chose, chose a coffee machine, and today Saeko Ehprelia was delivered. Still, I don't want to wash the most different parts, I decided that full automation would be easier. Today we have already tried a super cappuccino. The aroma of ground coffee is already felt in the corridor, and the foam is delicious. And the management is simple, Russified. I'm very happy so far.

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Tanyusha
Lea, congratulations on your purchase. Share your impressions of your machine further.
zvezda
Lea !!! I congratulate you with pokuka !!! Ooooooo good car !!!!!
Tanyusha
And I still can't persuade my husband to buy a coffee machine, but here we were in the Media Market and there was such a small machine Coffee machine and he liked her. True, I am confused by the range of prices in online stores from 28,000 to 40,000 rubles.
Lea
Thank you girls

Tanya, this is Saeko Cynthia Cappuccino. Sounds like a great car. I wonder if she only makes cappuccino? We have its price of approximately 32,000 rubles.
Tanyusha
Lea's anatomy to Sayeko Cynthia Cappuccino write espresso, lungo and cappuccino at the touch of a button, just what I need, espresso for me, and cappuccino for my daughter.
nut
Aunt Basia, I have a question for you - how did you buy a Delonghi coffee machine? So I am faced with the choice of Delongee and Bosch, and I do not know which way to decide: umnik2: My kitchen is now big, but I want a not bulky car, but a good one: mda: Now I have a lot of equipment, thanks to our expensive forum and a coffee machine, I I hope (I will not succumb to temptation anymore) will be my last purchase
lina
whisper - a nut, if you do not maniac about cappuccino, then Bosch is a good coffee machine. my one and a half years, coffee consumption from three cups a day until I don't know how much - if there are guests.
nut
Linochka, frankly, it's a shame even to admit that I am so dark in terms of coffee drinks and their names, but I want and love coffee with froth, my husband just wants good coffee (how many nerves it took to persuade me to buy), and there is still some latte and some other name: umnik2: In short, if I buy and there is something wrong, it's just a disaster, the money is not small. Lina what a bosh you have, write the number

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