Pasta machine Philips HR2355 / 09

[Fifanya]

Galina, thank you), I will do a smaller sample)



Fifanya, Anya, good advice !!! Thank you!

if it remains, I make cottage cheese casserole like lasagna,

It's too late to drink Borjomi .. I made curd in parallel ..
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I tried yesterday's high-grade flour noodles, and again I was surprised. I really liked it. It keeps its shape perfectly, does not absorb water, aldente is cooked. If I hadn't done it myself, I wouldn't have believed it. It didn't work like that on rolling

[Twig]

Twig, I read the topic from the beginning, on page 22 you write that such a machine is useless, very reasoned))). And many who just bought it now write a year ago that it is not an interesting device at all)))

[Csscandle]

Csscandle,
It turns out I lasted a whole year

For me, the price is a weighty argument, and I followed the topic from the bushes, yes. And I have a dough sheeter. And I wanted it like this - I poured flour, poured some water and the pasta itself grows.

[Csscandle]

Csscandle, for 10k this is a gorgeous purchase.
I bought mine for 17,000 from Germany and did not regret it. Scales, angel hair attachments and cookies - that's great!

[anna_k]

anna_k, cookies, you say
Where are the scales?

[Twig]

Twig, well, yes, I usually cook cookies.

Christmas trees-panicles. I already thought next year without kitchen gadgets. You need cookies

poured some water

HEALTHY DEFINITION

Girls, and 2354/12 is what a model? ...

, and 2354/12 - what is this model? ...

It costs 227 euros. With weights and 6 matrices.

[Cirre]

I tried yesterday's high-grade flour noodles, and again I was surprised. I really liked it. It keeps its shape perfectly, does not absorb water, aldente is cooked. If I hadn't done it myself, I wouldn't have believed it. It didn't work like that on rolling

On the 13th page Galina Cirre gave a link to a pasta maker review with pasta recipes.

I found this review, this machine is a storehouse of all the most delicious

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And there, by the way, very many recipes use BC flour. Below are the recommendations of the blog author - Irina:

My tips for making dough:
• 1 glass of durum wheat flour + 90 ml of water for short pasta such as anelini, ditalini, rigatoni, pasta, foam.
• 1 glass of BC flour + 105 ml of a mixture of egg and water for pasta with filling such as agnoti, cappelletti, ravioli, tortellini. The dough is thinner, pliable and sticky.
• 1 glass of BC flour + 100 ml of a mixture of egg and water for a long flat pasta like tagliatelle. Fettuccinni, tripolini, mafaldine, pappardelle, and also for lasagna sheets and curly pasta like farfalle. The dough turns out to be thinner, plastic, but no longer sticky.
• 1 glass of BC flour + 95 ml of a mixture of eggs and water for a thin paste such as linguini, spaghetti and vermicelli.

[Galina]

Galina, Thank you!!!
Is that what you have? ...
Does it include the thinnest (angel hair like ...)?
And I also found 2358/12!
There are as many as 8 nozzles !!! as I understood ...

Is that what you have? ...
And I also found 2358/12!
There are as many as 8 nozzles !!!

Well, here it is .. bought a year ago. on page 31 of the box I did ..

[Gal]

Oh, Gal…
Something I got confused ...
So you're 58?
And the 54th is the same as yours, only with 6 nozzles? Right?
And what then are these two additional nozzles? And then the pictures are not visible at all ...



All , Gal! I remove the question!… I found all the answers there on these pages!
The only thing you don't know is which two nozzles are missing in the 54th?

Something I'm confused ...
So you're 58?
And the 54th is the same as yours, only with 6 nozzles? Right?
And what then are these two additional nozzles? And then the pictures are not visible at all ...

They are all the same. In the sense they work. But. in the one where there are 4 nozzles. no built-in scales. 54 has scales, but 6 attachments. Mine has everything and it is the dearest ..
It is necessary to look at what nozzles, I also will not tell you about it .. A. I see. no two. as they are called .. well, in short, flat one pi wide. others are narrow. but flat .. ribbons so to speak. Explained ...

[Cirre]

On the 13th page Galina Cirre gave a link to a pasta maker review with pasta recipes.
And there, by the way, very many recipes use BC flour. Below are the recommendations of the blog author - Irina:

Thank you, I read it last year when I was thinking whether to buy or not. But everyone has different tastes, although the pictures help, you cannot imagine the taste with them.
And the flour, of course, is different. I didn't have enough water with solid flour, but Irina had enough.

And I have enough water, according to the recipe, I make 4/5 solid flour and 1/5 of the highest grade, if I add more water, then the macaroons stick together (hard flour Puds). For me, the most delicious angel hair, I ordered the attachment on our forum in the joint venture, I really waited a long time, but very justified

Girls, but no one dared to have a younger brother? I am something, the more I think, the more appropriate it seems to me to buy just a small one. I can put it permanently behind the coffee maker and not hide it anywhere. Cons: The maximum portion is less, it takes more time. On the other hand, although there are four of us, we often eat at different times, so this is just the portion for the children, and for me and my husband it will be fresh later. And a longer time can have a positive effect on any gluten ... It is also embarrassing that the attachments, apparently, are not compatible with a large machine, it will be difficult to expand the park.
Talk to me)), otherwise tomorrow they will bring me a little one ... white, but on the computer-universe there is a small black one, also under a different model number, it would suit me better, but it comes out more expensive than white in M ​​... the video came out.

Cons: less maximum serving, more time required

It seems to me that these are already details ... You can get used to the portion. And macaroons are made quickly. Very fast!
Also, the appetite of eaters must be taken into account. Yesterday we fed four eaters with one small portion, and even the rest remained. With such a rate of eating the results of experiments, I will have to master the machine for a very long time.

It seems to me that these are already details ... You can get used to the portion. And macaroons are made quickly. Very fast!
Also, the appetite of eaters must be taken into account. Yesterday we fed four eaters with one small portion, and even the rest remained. With such a rate of eating the results of experiments, I will have to master the machine for a very long time.

As for pasta, then I have all the crap). So usually I cook a pack of 0.5 kg dry at a time, this is enough for four of us to eat and there is still either a portion of the children left (with a fight and discussion, who got more), or the son eats everything one by one. And these are dry, that is, from 400 gr. flour, as I see it, I will get either rather modest portions for four (to which there would still be a cutlet and salad) or plenty of pasta for two children and I have leftovers (usually a children's dinner is what happens). In this case, before the arrival of the husband, you need to make another small portion. Am I right in thinking?

[Csscandle]

Csscandle, wrong. From a small portion I got 350 grams of spaghetti before boiling, this is a decent portion for 4 when it boiled, and I love to eat.

[Csscandle]

Csscandle, wrong. From a small portion I got 350 grams of spaghetti before boiling, this is a decent portion for 4 when it boiled, and I love to eat.

Yes? somehow I don't think so, yesterday I read the instructions for the baby, there are 200 gr in one glass. flour, in two, respectively, 400 gr. Maybe you have other glasses in your elephant? After all, how from 200 gr. flour to get 350 gr. spaghetti .... you need to look at the table, there was a table in the instructions with the output of the finished product.



Here in the instructions they write that out of 200 gr. flour is obtained 200 gr.spaghetti (?), and from 400 - 450 grams.

Talk to me

Yulia! Good day! It is very difficult to advise, everyone chooses a technique for themselves. But if the price of a large Elephant is for a stock, then I would advise you to take it. Choosing between dimensions and functionality, of course, is not easy, we did not have such agony of choice last year.But the Big Elephant has a very good opportunity: expanding the attachments (including for cookies, and your kids will love it)
Good luck with your choice!

Svetlana, yes, I also like to buy more functional, albeit more expensive. But here is just a stupor of some kind), I already have a lot of large devices, it's scary for my husband's psyche, including)))). I don't want cookies ... yet, I've already played enough of these things with soups in a pizza maker and I have each device strictly for its functions). There is also a little dough of the wrong consistency and it is no longer served for squeezing, no, my nerves are dearer to me, I want several proven recipes and scald over them without hesitation.

It seems to me that these are already details ... You can get used to the portion. And macaroons are made quickly. Very fast!
Also, the appetite of eaters must be taken into account. Yesterday we fed four eaters with one small portion, and even the rest remained. With such a rate of eating the results of experiments, I will have to master the machine for a very long time.

I have enough portions for 1 cup of flour for 4 and it remains.))) So we are also eaters so hot. I don’t know how together !! you can eat so much))).

[Galina]

Galina, mmm, just dry the drooling and fold it until next time

I have enough portions for 1 cup of flour for 4 and it remains.))) So we are also eaters so hot. I don’t know how together !! you can eat so much))).

Maybe I'm dramatizing))), thanks.
That is, it turns out that little is enough for me ...
It is clear that the big one will last better and longer, since it is iron, and more variable, but ..... when my plastic one breaks, maybe they will come up with something good)))

Here in the instructions they write that out of 200 gr. flour is obtained 200 gr. spaghetti (?), and from 400 - 450 grams.

This is definitely nonsense they write. It will turn out as many as the ingredients were put there. Well, minus the piece that remained in the car itself. A girl friend weighed - 333gr of pasta came out for 1 cup of flour. There will be more weight depending on the durum (it is heavier than ordinary flour). 200g of flour cannot make 200g of spaghetti, since water and an egg are also a plus. Physics. Nothing comes out of nowhere and goes nowhere)).

For a family of 4 people (2 men) I cook dry about 300-350g). That is, a little more than half of the standard 0.5 kg pack. This is more than enough for us (we eat a little, in fact). Interestingly, in terms of volume / quantity of cooked those 330-350g fresh from Big Phillips (for 1 cup of flour) we are the same. More than. I'm only talking about situations where pasta is the main dish, NOT a side dish.

Therefore, after reading your post, my conclusion. Big Phillips is ideal for you: for 1 cup of your flour for a side dish or for 2 cups - it's good to eat pasta.

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, Nata, so small, too, for two and one kneads! Only 18 minutes, not 12.

[Csscandle]

Csscandle,

Large knead 10 minutes for 1 cup. More precisely, it kneads for 3 minutes in general, and then extrudes. And usually ends before 10 minutes (the dough ends). He has a cup for flour from 250g to 320 and even a little more (depending on the variety, the lightest is BC flour). The volume of the cup (VOLUME !!) seems to be 370 ml (someone measured for me at one time).

This means that the small cup is smaller, if you believe the instructions, then 200 grams. approximately, depending on the type of flour.

[Csscandle]

If you tell me how to insert links from a tablet without hassle, I will throw you pictures of both elephants.
I am constantly in trouble with highlighting links. Somehow there was an alternative, clicked and the photo was inserted, I don't understand, something is constantly changing.
Csscandle, do not worry, a very remote little elephant. I like it.
The only negative, probably there are no additional attachments on it (all these hair and cookies)
By portions - large makes for 300 and 600 g
The small bowl has a smaller one, these are 200 and 400
Both work quietly and pleasantly.
The little one looks more like an elephant. Also thoroughly made, the plastic auger does not scare me. I use the Kitcheneid meat grinder, it is plastic and the screw is plastic. Chews everything flawlessly, and you can wash in PMM. So don't be afraid of plastic augers. The part that kneads has plastic blades. This, perhaps, is a weak link, you probably cannot pour water so that the dough is crumb and not a viscous piece of dough. And then it can be hard for them - the blades.
A photo today especially for girls who complain about the lack of an older elephant for sale.

Yes? somehow I don't think so, yesterday I read the instructions for the baby, there are 200 gr in one glass. flour, in two, respectively, 400 gr. Maybe you have other glasses in your elephant? After all, how from 200 gr. flour to get 350 gr. spaghetti .... you need to look at the table, there was a table in the instructions with the output of the finished product.



Here in the instructions they write that out of 200 gr. flour is obtained 200 gr. spaghetti (?), and from 400 - 450 grams.

Add the weight of the liquid to the flour. Elephant has its own glass, it is a little more. There will be flour from 220 to 320, it seems, I do not remember exactly how much (it is written in the recipe book) and the amount of flour depends on the type, the grains fit more by weight, the sun is less.
I weighed when I did it for the first time, I had 333 grams, but there was a rather large nut in the car. He could still be driven away.

Oh Chuchik already wrote it all

Here are the attachments.

[Twig]

Twig,

I have been using the Kitchen meat grinder for many years. She is, indeed, all plastic and still holds. But. On the auger there are small breaks in the plastic on the ribs of the "screw" - apparently, there were pieces of bone. If the auger winds up a lot of hard meat, the body of the meat grinder itself ... bends / deforms !! Yes Yes. The plastic of the body is softer than the plastic of the auger, so the "pipe" of the meat grinder becomes almost oval at the moment of pulling a piece through it))). I've had this, mind you. And there are cracks already at the base of the housing where the auger is inserted. The smallest, not end-to-end, but there are. True, she is 8 years old, probably no less)). Active use, not lying in a box.

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow, get crazy. She lives in my country house and is rarely exploited. But the season before last she shoveled several bags of Ivan-tea, and the combine's gearbox flew. And the auger at least fig. Now such strange and heavy things can only be done with a separate meat grinder, such as Axion. Chews like a beast for 2 thousand

I hope the owner of the little elephant does not mind



Both models have a storage compartment for the attachment.
The big elephant is mine, showcase.

ABOUT! real experts have pulled up !!
Irina, Sprig, thanks !!!
And what can I conclude ... something no))), portions of 400 grams, which means that we should be enough, but the fact that the attachments are so smaller is frustrating .... but the occupied area is also less. ... eh)))



The instructions for the baby say that there is one extra. nozzle, some cappellini ... or something like that



And I have an iron meat grinder for the kitchen dough mixer ...

[Yulia]

Yulia, I looked at the nozzles, the little one just gives out less pasta per unit of time. But the sheets of lasagna will be the same, the section of the circle is the same.
Cappellini is probably an analogue of penne. They have a different external pattern.

Googled, the capellini is, apparently, the hair of an angel.

[Csscandle]

Csscandle, all attachments in the photo. I am not good at pasta types. For me there are noodles, spaghetti and horns

[Twig]

Twig, Twig, I understand, it's just that the instructions say that there is another one, it is not included in the kit, but there is a recess for it in the compartment. That's all I know)

And I have an iron meat grinder for the kitchen dough mixer ...

And I can only recommend taking a closer look at this meat grinder for Kitchen, because it is made by Jupiter. I have their stationary meat grinder. To say happy - to say nothing! This is pure German.

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Sorry for the off-top

Oh, I don't read the instructions.If only something refuses to work, then. I liked the little control. Mechanics. Two buttons. And the cord is so thick.

Girls! One large display case elephant for 10633 is in MVideo at Belaya Dacha, today is the last day of storing the order. Maybe someone else wants.

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, but it seems to me that a plastic grinder is even an advantage. I put it in the PMM without a twinge of conscience. And large volumes, as the scarecrow describes, the harvester is not designed for this simply. If the gearbox is grunted, it is not repaired under warranty. I already hacked it for myself on the nose. The low speed nest on Kitchen and Kenwood should not be overloaded.
Sorry for the offtopic.

colored dough - it would be beautiful, such festive pasta

Today I saw a little elephant at our place. I felt it, unscrewed the trunk, everything is fine. Not fragile. heavy, very decent ... The main thing is not to knead the clay in it .. And so everything is fine 144 euros we have.

Today I saw a little elephant at our place. I felt it, unscrewed the trunk, everything is fine.

Galya, I'm reading your post, dad looks over his shoulder what I'm doing, read it and looked at me soooo (There are chickens, cats, dogs, elephants, she says, don't need it. worth)