AlenaT
And the water is simple from the tap, passed through the Spring.
Lozja
Quote: AlenaT

I don't understand what kind of raid everyone is talking about ...
True, our handsome man is in the bedroom, there are no computers, no TVs ...
And the room is used for its intended purpose - we sleep there)))
But I don't see anything like that on furniture either ...

Plaque is not on everything, but on a certain type of plastic is only visible. My husband and I have different models of monitors, he has such a whitish plaque on the frame, on my keyboard it happens also on the monitor stand, on the frame itself. And nothing is visible on the furniture either. It's just that the computers are closest to the humidifier.
Scarecrow
Quote: Lozja

Plaque is not on everything, but on a certain type of plastic is only visible. My husband and I have different models of monitors, he has such a whitish plaque on the frame, on my keyboard it happens also on the monitor stand, on the frame itself. And nothing is visible on the furniture either. It's just that the computers are closest to the humidifier.

I have osmosis (filter). I forgot about deposits and deposits in irons / steam cleaners / ironing machine / kettle, etc.
Lozja
Quote: Scarecrow

I have osmosis (filter). I forgot about deposits and deposits in irons / steam cleaners / ironing machine / kettle, etc.

I believe. Now I’ll get my own apartment, and I’ll also put myself some osmosis.
lega
Quote: Rita

Now they have put such a fountain 🔗 - it has a unique surface system, which, due to its high porosity, absorbs much more water than a smooth surface, and therefore evaporates much more. Now at home there is no problem with dryness, white walls and distilled water. In addition, it greatly decorates the room.

Rita, how long have you had a fountain? How often do you have to change the water and flush the entire fountain? Is there some kind of auto flush system? Does it differ from an ordinary indoor fountain somehow technically, or is it just design and size?
Taia
Quote: Lozja

I believe. Now I’ll get my own apartment, and I’ll also put myself some osmosis.

And I, and I want it!
and what is it? poke me where you need to.
Lozja
Quote: Flaksia


And I, and I want it!
and what is it? poke me where you need to.

Well, like a water purification system, attached to pipes.
Scarecrow
Quote: Flaksia


And I, and I want it!
and what is it? poke me where you need to.

In the internet, you can look. Commonly called reverse osmosis. A tee is placed on the water pipe to the sink. Plain water in an ordinary tap and a separate hose for the osmosis tap. Plus a storage tank. It is quite possible to put even in a rented apartment. Then just dismantle and take it with you.
Rita
Quote: lga

Rita, how long have you had a fountain? How often do you have to change the water and flush the entire fountain? Is there some kind of auto flush system? Does it differ from an ordinary indoor fountain somehow technically, or is it just design and size?
The fountain has been with us for the second year. We add water every day, because quite a lot evaporates. And also because I like it when it works silently, without gurgling. The fountain does not require frequent maintenance if you add a little fountain agent to the water. And if not added, then it needs to be washed periodically. Here you can't guess how often - it's individual. Mine in the shower. If limescale forms, then clean with Harpik or vinegar. Our water is hard, so in the summer it was once cleaned of limescale.
Its uniqueness is that water does not flow down it in jets, but envelops it, soaking it like a blotter. Because of this, the evaporation area is much larger than that of a conventional fountain.
It does not require any special flushing.And in St. Petersburg with your soft water, you probably won't have to clean it from limescale.
Evgenika
we bought Borkovsky, one of the younger models with an ionic filter for demineralization, so that we can pour any water. like the air has become not so dry, it is more pleasant to cool.
runova
we were given a Bork H700 for the birth of children. for 11 months he has been working for us)))
Air humidifier type ultrasonic
Rec. room area up to 70 sq. m
Water tank 6 l
Touch control panel
Ultrasound. water spray
Warm steam mode
Child mode
Automatic mode. maintaining humidity
Sleep timer up to 9 o'clock

it seems not bad ... the plaque of course periodically appears on furniture and appliances, but not to say that everything is so terrible ...)) but we breathe without problems)))
Lady di
And who used Sharpovskie or Panasonic?
Milda
Electrolux has been working for us for the second winter. I was going to replace the filter, but in stores it is not. I read somewhere that a filter from Bork fits. And for sure! I changed it to Borkovsky and again works flawlessly. And then, indeed, there was a plaque on furniture, on the plastic of the TV set and even on a varnished handbag.
MODESTY *
And I ventured to buy an inexpensive model of the Bort BLF-216 ultrasonic humidifier. There are no pretensions to it, it plows constantly in winter and it is really easier to breathe, the hygrometer did not show below 50%, the goats stopped appearing in the child. It's good that it turns itself off when the water runs out, otherwise I can easily forget to add water
yara
Quote: MODESTY *

And I ventured to buy an inexpensive model of the Bort BLF-216 ultrasonic humidifier. There are no pretensions to it, it plows constantly in winter and it is really easier to breathe, the hygrometer did not show below 50%, the goats stopped appearing in the child. It's good that it turns itself off when the water runs out, otherwise I can easily forget to add water
I looked in Yandex, this is a novelty, but you already have one ??? And what is this thing? Take a bigger photo and show it, otherwise I did not understand anything (that his appearance confused me). And what is the price?
igorechek
the benefits of a humidifier cannot be felt. One can only observe.
I will say one thing - the benefits are very obvious. Before the purchase, I had two children who often had colds. And now for 2 years, t-t-t, O-very rare.
Before that, the moisture was sucked out by batteries up to 25-27%. And now I hold 45-50. My snot is gone!
Severin
We already have high humidity, we would have a dehumidifier))). Perhaps due to the fact that there are a lot of flowers. By the way, keep more flowers and beautiful and no moisturizer needed.
Aina
Quote: LILIANNA

very interesting, is there really less dust? and how does it feel, is it easier to breathe? I felt the effect of the salt lamp the very next day, before ALWAYS waking up in the morning I sneezed several times, but when I bought the lamp the very next day it stopped, I even checked it several times, I won't turn on the lamp - I sneeze in the morning, I turn it on, no and never turn off. and this is just a lamp, and here, such a system and cleaning and moisturizing, the effect should be felt
in general, keep us informed, please
I have both a lamp and a humidifier in the bedroom (we sleep with a child) ... The lamp is on all night, I turn on the humidifier as needed, I use it more as a hygrometer if it falls below 40%, then I turn it on, and if 45-50%, then I can turn on / can not turn on, breathing is definitely more pleasant and easier when the air is humidified, but this "humidification" is felt only when the humidifier is working, as soon as I turn it off - everything returns to normal
igorechek
Quote: Severina

We already have high humidity, we would have a dehumidifier))). Perhaps due to the fact that there are a lot of flowers. By the way, keep more flowers and beautiful and no moisturizer needed.
No, it won't help. If the batteries heat well, not to mention the extra. heating devices, it will not be saved by daily washing and drying at home, nor flowers, nothing but a good humidifier. Checked on myself. My humidifier has a capacity of up to 400 ml of water spraying per hour. In reality, from 3 to 6 liters are needed per day.No clever device will provide this volume, such as a basin or a jar for a battery. And the benefits of humidifying the air are really not a myth.
Now I ordered another humidifier-fragrance. As a humidifier, it is low-power and will be in addition to the main one. The fact is that by placing a powerful humidifier in one room, it will humidify the other 1-2 rooms almost the same way, the difference in humidity in the rooms will be 2-4% of the total.
igorechek
Quote: vera100865

He works for us only the second day, the difference has not yet been felt, special. there is no hydrometer apparatus (it seems). But even the time has passed not enough, while the daughter always opens the window, it is very hot in the apartment, now there is ash on the street and rarely less than 25-26.
be sure to buy a separate device with a humidity sensor or just a hygrometer. It is a separate one, there are hygrometers inserted into the humidifier itself, but it gives a very large measurement error (much overestimated), since it is located on the device itself, but it must be at a distance from the humidifier for correct measurement.
sd255
Anyone who has their hands "from that place", you can try to make a natural moisturizer, which will cost less in the end than the different Venta and Boneco, but will work the same way.

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From my implementation of the idea:
- container with wheels for 33 liters - 98 UAH
- fan on the top cover 140 mm (Noctua NF-A14 FLX) - 160 UAH
- fans on the sides 120 mm - (Noctua NF-P12) - 110 UAH each
- power supply unit with adjustable 6 voltage steps from 4 to 12 Volts
- packing of household rags - 15 UAH.

98 + 160 + 110 + 110 + 30 + 15 = 523 UAH.

But this is if you take expensive fans with minimal noise, under which you can easily sleep.
That is, if you take cheap fans, then the cost of the construction will drop to 250 hryvnia.

As a result, in the operating mode of 12 hours at maximum speed and 12 hours at below average 2-5 liters of water evaporate (the amount of evaporated water "floats" depending on the humidity and temperature in the room).
It is easy to care for such a structure, I took off the rags and wash it in the washing machine at 95 degrees and that's it. Container with a rag with detergent or powder.
And, what is pleasant, the moisture is natural and there is no effect of water fog + plaque on furniture, you can pour any water ..

GruSha
we had a humidifier, but it covered everything with a white coating. It looks like flour is sprinkled on the furniture. They took it to the garage and forgot it.
sd255
Quote: GruSha

we had a humidifier, but it covered everything with a white coating. It looks like flour is sprinkled on the furniture. They took it to the garage and forgot it.
So you had an ultrasonic humidifier.
GruSha
it seems yes Is this the worst option?
sd255
Quote: GruSha

it seems yes Is this the worst option?

Yes, because it sprays absolutely everything in the water.
It needs either distilled water or osmosis water.
igorechek
Well, you complicate a little about an ultrasonic humidifier.
Firstly, it does not cost 15-20 thousand. A good moisturizer costs 3-4 thousand.
A good ultrasonic humidifier does not make any noise at all (if you do not raise your ear in silence), but in a homemade one there are already 3 fans, and you also need to spend money on spare parts.
In an ultrasonic humidifier, the spraying process is preceded by UV treatment and heating of the water itself at the spraying point. And this gives the effect of disinfecting the leaving water and, moreover, when leaving the steam jet does not cool the air itself. After all, a home-made device is similar to an Israeli air cooler, which, in addition to humidification, also cools the air.
In any case, in our Murmansk region. the water is soft and I never clean it for use in a humidifier. There is very little plaque even without a special filter, it does not lie in layers throughout the apartment, but only a slight plaque on adjacent furniture. Well, well, I rubbed it every few days, it will be cleaner.
Maintenance consists only in cleaning the spray plate once every 10 days and once a month - flushing the device itself (nothing complicated).
I do a lot of things in the house with my own hands. Very similarly, I recently made an apparatus for drying-raw smoked meat. But this device is in my closet.You can do a lot with your own hands, I do not argue. And in a conspicuous place I still want to put just a beautiful humidifier, which would also please the eye as an interior item, except for the main function.
Taia
I have an Electrolux ultrasonic humidifier, not cheap (relatively). In the apartment in a white sticky coating EVERYTHING is possible. And not only that in the room where the humidifier is located, but in the whole apartment. And these are windows, glass on windows with a touch, mirrors, TVs, monitors, keyboards, telephones, glasses just lying on the table, furniture, refrigerator walls, full ... Before buying here on the forum they warned, but: 1 - I did not think it was so globally, in 2 - did not find how to humidify the room more effectively.
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Olgushechka81
Good afternoon, I have been using a moisturizer for 4 winters (I originally bought it because of the flowers). First, I put it on the wall under the ceiling, but there was a bloom and I constantly had to wipe all surfaces (there was simply nowhere to put it), and then I moved it to a stand for flowers and everything and the problem with bloom disappeared. yes we use water from the filter barrier. We turn it on every night for a timer.
GruSha
Quote: igorechek

There is very little plaque even without a special filter, it does not lie in layers throughout the apartment, but only a slight plaque on adjacent furniture. Well, well, I rubbed it every few days, it will be cleaner.
once every few days it will not work, every day is necessary.
It is not difficult to wipe off this white dust, although the mood spoils at the sight of white bloom every day. It is alarming that it is we who inhale
sd255
Quote: GruSha

once every few days will not work, every day is necessary.
It is not difficult to wipe off this white dust, although the mood spoils at the sight of white bloom every day. It is alarming that it is we who inhale
That's right, it was after using an ultrasonic humidifier and white bloom on furniture for one winter, and I think in the lungs, and the water was used exclusively after 3 main filters: 1 micron mechanic + softening + activated carbon with coconut, I dug the topic on humidifying the air and came to the disappointing conclusion that you need to use something with natural evaporation.

Various air washers in our country are sold at the price of an aircraft, although they essentially contain a motor and evaporator plates, and have little performance. And, by the way, they make noise, at night if the humidifier is in the room you can hear it, and ultrasonic too, it gurgles, and the membrane itself becomes overgrown with salts over time and starts to make noise + the motor also makes noise.

From experience, I used the quietest fans, and in quiet mode their performance drops by 50%, but the noise is less than 15 dB.
Here are the characteristics:

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Airflow 115.5 m³ / h
Airflow with L.N.A. 101,9 m³ / h
Airflow with U.L.N.A. 88,7 m³ / h
Acoustical Noise 19.2 dB (A)
Acoustical Noise with L.N.A. 16.4 dB (A)
Acoustical Noise with U.L.N.A. 13.8 dB (A)

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Airflow 92.3 m³ / h
Airflow with L.N.A. 78,5 m³ / h
Airflow with U.L.N.A. 63,4 m³ / h
Acoustical Noise 19.8 dB (A)
Acoustical Noise with L.N.A. 16.9 dB (A)
Acoustical Noise with U.L.N.A. 12.6 dB (A)

Moreover, he chose the fans so that the 2 lateral injectors would give more pressure and air flow than the upper exhaust one, thus a slight overpressure is created in the tank, which increases efficiency.

And, another important point is that washing this entire box takes about 5 minutes, and you need to wash it every 2 weeks, otherwise mucus is formed, and mucus is formed in all humidifiers, except for steam. Washing rags is also simple, and is solved simply with two sets, one for the washing machine, the other for use.

It's just that with the best components at the moment, the cost will be a little more than UAH 500, and if you think about taking something like that from Venta, Boneko ... then it will already start from UAH 2500.

And, this humidifier does not give a "bath" effect, the humidification is soft and it will not work to overmoisten the room. ...

I do not argue, it can be easier and more beautiful to buy ... only everyone must decide for himself, beautifully and expensively, not the fact that it is of high quality or think about how to do it, and do it safely and effectively. But in the latter case, "straight arms" are needed.
igorechek
Quote: Taia
I have an Electrolux ultrasonic humidifier, not cheap (relatively).
I have exactly the same. I took a few years ago for about 4000 rubles. I don't know, maybe our water is just softer. I speak from my bell tower.Works without a built-in filter on ordinary tap water. The only thing, I let it settle in an open tank for about 10 minutes.
Despite the fact that the humidity increases in adjacent rooms, plaque remains only within a radius of 1.5 meters, no more, and even then small. I wipe it with one cloth every 5-7 days. In general, there are no problems with regard to the white sediment, I would have done this periodically.
I don't know, judging by the way some people struggle with filters for clean water because of its poor quality, I admit that maybe someone gets a strong plaque. I speak only for myself - there are no problems with white bloom.
igorechek
Quote: sd255
Moreover, he chose the fans so that the 2 lateral injectors would give more pressure and air flow than the upper exhaust one, thus a slight overpressure is created in the tank, which increases efficiency.

And, another important point is that washing this entire box takes about 5 minutes, and you need to wash it every 2 weeks, otherwise mucus is formed, and mucus is formed in all humidifiers, except for steam.
And, this humidifier does not give a "bath" effect, the humidification is soft and it will not work to overmoisten the room. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=4236.0
I was looking at a site about homemade models. The idea is interesting. It still seems to me that it would be more efficient to put 2 fans of the same power on each side. So there will be a uniform and fast air movement without turbulence. The efficiency of "ripping" liquid from the material will increase. And the load on the fans will be even.
No mucus builds up in my ultrasound humidifier. Only on the inner walls is a very barely noticeable yellowish coating. It practically does not exist. I wipe it every 10 days.
And there can be no waterlogging. I myself monitor a separate separate hygrometer, and on the device itself you can set the desired humidity and it will be on-off itself.
sd255
Quote: igorechek

I was looking at a site about homemade models. The idea is interesting. It still seems to me that it would be more efficient to put 2 fans of the same power on each side. So there will be a uniform and fast air movement without turbulence. The efficiency of "ripping" liquid from the material will increase. And the load on the fans will be even.
No mucus builds up in my ultrasound humidifier. Only on the inner walls is a very barely noticeable yellowish coating. It practically does not exist. I wipe it every 10 days.
And there can be no waterlogging. I myself monitor a separate separate hygrometer, and on the device itself you can set the desired humidity and it will be on-off itself.
Does your device have an external or built-in hygrometer? If it is built-in, then such a hygrometer will not have much sense for regulation, since the humidity directly around the humidifier will be of little information.

Maybe with the addition of 3 more fans, the efficiency would have increased by 30-50-70-100%, but I don't need this, because now the humidifier generally works at minimum speed around the clock and the water consumption is stable about 5 liters, which more than enough, if you turn on the maximum speed, then it turns out all 10 ... which is clearly too much for my conditions.
And, as a bonus, at the minimum speed of the humidifier you can't hear it at all, even at night.

And, as it turned out, if you turn on the maximum speed for a day ... then you can achieve waterlogging, that is, there will be no fog and there will be no heavy air in the bath, but the windows facing directly onto the street begin to "cry".
So from practical experience I can say that this homemade "air washer" turned out to be quite effective, efficient and easy to maintain.
AlenaT
I recently read websites about humidifiers and came across this information.
Ultrasonic humidifiers are the most effective, but dangerous in that they spray EVERYTHING in the water,
and what is there we often do not know without special analyzes ...
It is recommended, contrary to the manufacturer's instructions (I personally have Boneko's UZ), not to fill
in the humidifier tap water to avoid provocation of lung diseases.
I noticed that during the operation of tap water, a smell appears from the socket
charm, which after washing with soda disappears, but soon reappears, from which I
concluded that I should try another water.
Yesterday we bought five liters of distillate, washed thoroughly again with brushes inside
humidifier, removed the filter (since distillate is used, it seems to be not needed),
We will try.
Maybe someone does not need such measures, but I have men with a tendency to diseases
respiratory organs, so we decided to play it safe ...
igorechek
Quote: sd255
Does your device have an external or built-in hygrometer? If it is built-in, then such a hygrometer will not have much sense for regulation, since the humidity directly around the humidifier will be of little information.
There is a built-in hygrometer, but naturally it is necessary to set it to a higher value than you wish. Naturally, it will show approximately real humidity only in the off state or in pauses between work.
To control internal and external T, humidity and pressure, I have a separate mini-meteorological station with remote sensors (rooms and streets). And also our simple "two-bulb" hygrometer.
Most often I turn off the humidifier and turn it on myself, this is affected by many points.
igorechek
Quote: AlenaT
Ultrasonic humidifiers are the most effective, but dangerous in that they spray EVERYTHING in the water,
and what is there we often do not know without special analyzes ...
It is recommended, contrary to the manufacturer's instructions (I personally have Boneko's UZ), not to fill
in the humidifier tap water to avoid provocation of lung diseases.
I noticed that during the operation of tap water, a smell appears from the socket
charm, which after washing with soda disappears, but soon reappears, from which I
concluded that I should try another water. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=4236.0
Alena, let's not overdo it in the desire not to harm. Well, we won't be able to breathe completely clean air! You look at a ray of sun on a sunny day - there is so much dust flying from the street. And how much we breathe in exhaust gases. And how much dust is on your shelves and floors and wallpaper. And how much dust and debris from dried dog poop and garbage from garbage dumps we breathe every day on the street in dry weather. Is that someone cleans up?
There is no more dirt in suspended, sprayed humid air than just the air you breathe. Once again I say, look on a sunny day at the cut of light and shadow, a lot of dust. How many mites are in your pillow? Look at the data of scientists and photos from microscopes - you will want to sleep!
When leaving the ultrasonic humidifier, the water undergoes UV irradiation and heating up to 80-90 *. It may be weak, but at least some kind of decontamination compared to the completely unfiltered air that you breathe every day.
sd255
Quote: AlenaT

I recently read websites about humidifiers and came across this information.
Ultrasonic humidifiers are the most effective, but dangerous in that they spray EVERYTHING in the water,
and what is there we often do not know without special analyzes ...
It is recommended, contrary to the manufacturer's instructions (I personally have Boneko's UZ), not to fill
in the humidifier tap water to avoid provocation of lung diseases.
I noticed that during the operation of tap water, a smell appears from the socket
charm, which after washing with soda disappears, but soon reappears, from which I
concluded that I should try another water.
Yesterday we bought five liters of distillate, washed thoroughly again with brushes inside
humidifier, removed the filter (since distillate is used, it seems to be not needed),
We will try.
Maybe someone does not need such measures, but I have men with a tendency to diseases
respiratory organs, so we decided to play it safe ...
Distillate will still give the same effect in a day or two or three, just less.
I pour water from osmosis, but musty still appears on the third day, this is if you do not add a little sea salt to the water, for example, but in my case, the third day is already the remnants of water from the filling and it changes, because I fill in 15 -17 liters at once.

Because of the effect "absolutely everything that is in water in the air" did not take root, even when osmosis appeared, it still made a choice for natural humidification by running hundreds of cubic meters of air through the evaporator.
From ultrasound, somehow fine particles settling in the lungs do not seduce me. Pulmonary prof. the illness of the miners living in the apartment too.
In general, there is an idea to make a highly efficient air cleaning by adding a high-voltage part for dust settling ... but for now this is in the distant plans ...

Sonadora
Interesno, is it possible to clean the humidifier by pouring a kettle cleaner (with citric acid) into the lower part, of course, and not into the water tank? I have a Boneco 7135 UZ.
Scarecrow
Sonadora,

I've cleaned like this a million times. I pour boiling water into the lower part and sprinkle the lemon. I wait, drain, rinse. Now I don't need this method, I have osmosis and no deposits.

I'm reading about the white bloom ... comrades, OSMOS! And you will be happy. Spend one time (about 8 thousand). For drinking - water after the mineralizer, for humidifiers, irons, etc. - distilled from another tap. It leaves me ... do not fall ... up to 20 liters of water per day. I have two electric suites of 6 L each, Kuko UZ for 6 L and the poor old Bimatek UZ for 5 L (he, poor, is 10 years old). They plow without a lunch break. During the heating season, humidity drops dramatically and in a large house it can only be maintained by the continuous operation of several humidifiers. I just cut it to the full and until the water evaporates. Humidity never reaches 60% in winter. It's good if it reaches 50, but very rarely. And this is with such work. No flowers or drying clothes will save you at all. Humidifiers do not help here.
Sonadora
Natasha, just boiling water, boiling water? I once cleaned the electric kettle from scale, and at the same time washed the kitchen in Usu, when foam ran from everywhere from it.
Scarecrow
Don't use any special equipment. What's the point of overpaying for them? A clean lemon. She does not run away))).

I poured boiling water, to be honest. If it's a little scary and just in case - just pour hot, not boiling water. The higher the temperature, the faster the reaction goes. Many humidifiers have the function of warm steam (heat up the water), that is, they should not be afraid of rather hot water.
marina-asti
Yeah, I recently also learned the secret about pure citric acid. We were with a friend in the store, I turned around, and she was carrying a whole box of lemon, she told my round eyes how she uses it!
Sonadora
Thank you girls, I'll try. I will unsubscribe about the results.
Crochet
My friends, does anyone have such a humidifier?

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Katyunya Kam
Girls tell me, can anyone have already purchased a dyson humidifier? How do you like it? Share your experience
Maria_A
Tell me, if you pour boiled water into the ultrasonic cleaner instead of tap water, there will be less white bloom? Thank you.
Taia
Maria_A, there will still be a raid.
I poured water from an Aquaphor jug ​​with a scale filter - there is also a coating.
polliar
I thought about buying a humidifier, and then I remembered that in my Kromax Odyssey Q-402 steam cleaner, the instructions mentioned an additional function of aromatization, humidification and deodorization of air in rooms, and there is a corresponding nozzle
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I tried it, it turns out just spraying hot steam, as when boiling a kettle. Well, steam humidifiers also work like? Probably you need to buy a hygrometer and measure the indicators before and after.

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