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Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class) (page 340)

Linadoc
Quote: space
So all my tea was previously defective?
Nothing defective! It all depends on what it is made of. If it is made of a sticky material (Ivanushka, for example, contains polysaccharides, essentially glue), then they will keep their shape before and after brewing, if they are made of a non-sticky material (few sugars and polysaccharides), but they will not hold well before brewing and disintegrate after.
space
Quote: Linadoc
Nothing defective
calmed, Lina
Quote: Linadoc
It all depends on what it is made of. If from a sticky material (Ivanushka, for example, contains polysaccharides, essentially glue), then they will keep their shape before and after brewing, if from a non-sticky material (few sugars), but they will not hold well before brewing and disintegrate after.
I have to write this down, I learned
But the thing is that I made the first tea a la Village without fireweed, the granules were normal, and this was 50% fireweed, and the result was not ice. I’m definitely screwed up
Now I even rejoice at mistakes, they help to get to the bottom of the truth
Quote: Radushka
Girls-boys, come in and see, suddenly, someone will like it!
Thank you, Radushka, I liked it, wait for the result now
Radushka
lydia, Go for it!
Anatolyevna
Radushka, Let's go to the recipeJelly "Berry to berry"
Barquentine
As you girls walk through the woods. I'm afraid of my ticks myself. Today I went with a big bag. Ivan's tea is just blooming with us. I scored white-pink tops. Leaves are now all sluggish. Blackberry, by the way, is not bitter and has not yet ripened.
Nadyushich
Quote: Linadoc

Lida, they and should disintegrate when brewing, this is normal! When you brew granulated black tea, Ceylon for example, does it remain in the granules or does the granules disintegrate? They disintegrate, everything turns into a mess. It should be so.
Not all teas disintegrate for me, Ivan's tea remains granules, no matter how much you brew it. It most likely depends on some specific leaves. I twisted the frozen leaves, okay ...

Oh, Lina has already answered, but I haven't finished reading ...
businkairika
Quote: Linadoc
I only dream about lavender
And my friend brings me dried lavender from France. Fragrant !!! When I arrived home with lavender, my son smelled it instantly, although it was in the bag and in the bag.


Added Thursday, 30 Jun 2016 6:57 pm

Quote: Radushka
Girls-boys, come in and see, suddenly, someone will like it!
Jelly "Berry to berry"
(Radushka)
Another tasty treat. Thank you so much. Can you use frozen berries?


Added Thursday 30 Jun 2016 07:02 PM

Quote: lappl1
Girls who haven't looked at the Notes at the end of the recipe yet, take a look. There are such colorful links to all our recipes. Made for you. but it seems that few people look there ...
Lyudochka, very beautiful. When only you have time for everything. I wish you success in such a good business
space
Quote: Barkentina
As you girls walk through the woods.
hunting is worse than bondage
from the same series
Radushka
Irina, I have not tried ice cream. So I don’t know. I read the article. They compare pectin in apples before freezing and after thawing. I didn't see much difference.
Tiger striped
Quote: space
Tigger Striped, Anechka, read carefully and write down. I also, like Lena Borkovna, try to take notes on everything, because sclerosis gets stronger and the other, how to write it down. I can't find an option, unfortunately
The fact is that I just read and write everything in a row and the recipes are very different for the same type of plant.Some are drying in a sheet, some in bulk ... I have already written so much of everything, I'm just drowning in information ... About currants: "I didn't ferment and didn't keep it warm; I just tore the leaves into a dryer (it is possible in a cooling oven - also turns out) ". I have already pulled the currants out of the freezer and prepared, thawed, tear with claws and put them in the dryer.
Collected Ivan-tea today. It is already starting to turn yellow! I had to sort through everything and throw out the unusable leaves and tear off the yellowed tips. I rolled it up into a sheet. I’m going to hold it the night and put it in the freezer the next morning. And for the night I put the cherries in the freezer, which I rolled into the sheet in the morning. Circulation of workpieces in the freezer ...
I also want to try making wild raspberries this year.
Radushka
lappl1, Lyudochka, looked at the first page. And Radushka did not find Raspberry tea. Or didn't you?
space
Quote: Tigger Striped
Collected Ivan-tea today. It is already starting to turn yellow! I had to sort through everything and throw out the unusable leaves and tear off the yellowed tips. I rolled it up into a sheet. I’m going to hold it the night and put it in the freezer the next morning.
Anya, and Ivan-tea is not put in the freezer.

we also have leaves with yellowed tips, but I pretend not to see if the defect is small


This method is only suitable for garden plants.
And I also chose this tactic for myself: I collect everything I like, dry it, then into a bag, tie it tightly and into the freezer (though I write on a piece of paper and put the name of the contents in the bag). So it takes up much less space than in a sheet. And when the required assortment is typed, I defrost and combine it into the composition I need. In the meantime, I study the fermentation time and drying method.
Try it, maybe it will be more convenient for you and you will not be nervous that the deadlines are running out.
But Ivan - try to make tea without long delay.
Radushka
Quote: space
Ivan-tea is not put in the freezer
What is it? Lay! (if only 10-20 leaves are collected per week it turns out)
Tiger striped
Well. To put or not to put - that is the question? I’ve got used to everything in the freezer, but I’ve never made Ivan tea, I missed it last year.
space
Quote: Radushka
What is it? Lay! (if only 10-20 leaves are collected per week it turns out)
and Luda explained to me that it was undesirable to put it in the freezer. I asked her a question in Village Tea about this.

Anya did not collect 10 leaves, I think
Let's wait, what does the author of the topic say? I do not pretend to be true, I just learned the material


Added Thursday, 30 Jun 2016, 20:54

Quote: Radushka
Lyudochka, looked at the first page. And Radushka did not find Raspberry tea. Or didn't you?
Sweetheart, there are two links to your tea
lappl1
Quote: Radushka
lappl1, Lyudochka, looked at the first page. And Radushka did not find Raspberry tea. Or didn't you?
Radushka, dear, I'm sorry! Corrected a gross injustice. Everything was in the Gazebo, but I did not transfer 2 links to this and Ivan-tea theme. The Internet just fails me - the speed is 50 kb / s. With such an Internet, nothing opens, and if it opens, then not the first time. And sending a message is just akin to a feat (it turns out from the third - fifth call) ...
Well, okay, these are my problems ... Next time I will try to prevent this.
Quote: Tigger Striped
To put or not to put - that is the question? I’ve got used to everything in the freezer, but I’ve never made Ivan tea, I missed it last year.
Quote: space
and Luda explained to me that it was undesirable to put it in the freezer. I asked her a question in Village Tea about this.
space, Lida, I explained this to you when Vanechka was young. If the Internet allowed, then I would have found that answer.
In general, the leaves of young willow tea are tender, they contain a lot of juice. And if you freeze them, then when you twist them we get porridge. Many were convinced of this and more than once. But closer to August, when the leaves become rough and dry, you can freeze. I personally froze myself only in late August - early September.Until that time, they were easily processed in a meat grinder. But if you want to make tea according to Zechariah, and even mix with something, then wither them better in a cloth (they will simply dry in the air), freeze them more than usual, and then proceed according to the scenario ... as Lina advises - freeze and thaw in fabric, but after withering. Then the excess moisture is absorbed into the fabric during defrosting.
Radushka
Quote: lappl1
dear, sorry
So be it ... forgive
space
lappl1, Here is Lyudochka, I copied from the Village
Different plants have varying degrees of moisture / "dryness". Therefore, I always dry different leaves separately. Most girls do not bother about this and dry everything together. Fireweed, especially young, is very juicy, so it is better not to freeze it. Then he can give a lot of juice in a meat grinder. But by the end of summer, when the leaves become coarse, you can also freeze it. But in Derevensky you can freeze everything together after withering.
Quote: lappl1
But closer to August, when the leaves become rough and dry, you can freeze. I personally froze myself only in late August - early September. Until that time, they were easily processed in a meat grinder.
we still have the end of June and the leaves are juicy enough
Please forgive me if you misled me with your advice
Quote: lappl1
... Better yet, do as Lina advises - freeze and thaw in the fabric, but after withering. Then the excess moisture is absorbed into the fabric during defrosting.
obtained in bags without fabric, is it undesirable to freeze?
I really want to understand this issue so as not to make mistakes
lappl1
Quote: space
obtained in bags without fabric, is it undesirable to freeze? I really want to understand this issue so as not to make mistakes
space, Lida, why not? Can! But then, before fermentation, it is necessary that the leaves dry out a little, that is, so that the moisture released during defrosting is gone. And according to Lina's method, the moisture that forms during defrosting will go into the fabric, and not into the bag ...
space
Quote: lappl1
But then, before fermentation, it is necessary that the leaves dry out a little, that is, so that the moisture released during defrosting is gone.
I realized thanks
businkairika
Quote: Radushka
I read the article. They compare pectin in apples before freezing and after thawing. I didn't see much difference.
Thank you!!!
Tiger striped
I wonder if I will dry the currants in two passes, is this critical? I put it in the dryer at 70 degrees, but after a couple of hours I will have to turn it off for the night, it makes too much noise. And in the other room, I'll just oversleep and dry everything.
Radushka
Today I asked my husband to turn on the dryer before leaving for work, but he ... FORGOTTEN !!! And my cherry-raspberry tea is dry !!! Well, at least a smaller part of the party. I will not throw it away! I hope it will get better. Or mix with something later
filirina
Quote: Radushka
my cherry-raspberry tea is dry !!
Radushka, what does it mean dry? How dry can dry out?
Radushka
filirina, Irina, put it to dry in the dryer at 70. The husband had to leave in half an hour. I asked to turn it off. She left and returned after 6 hours. The dryer was running. He (tea) not only rang and rustled ... he was all exhausted. Well, at least not the whole party was there
filirina
Quote: Radushka
exhausted
You talk about him just like a living being! Still do not understand. What does it mean dry or exhausted? How is it shown? If in some loss of smell, so it will be restored ...
Radushka
filirina, nothing "some loss of smell"! He stopped smelling altogether! Dangles in a pillowcase away from my nose so I don't get upset!
filirina
Dearie, do not worry, lie down, rest and smell! I never pay attention to such garbage. There Ivanushka hangs out in the room for the second week and does not smell like anymore, but put it in an airtight container and voila, it smells again! And the dryer happened to be turned on all night, too, that's okay.
Radushka
filirina, yes, I’m not in the mood for the last few days.That rains in the meadows are not allowed stubbornly. So, we went fishing on purpose ... not for fish, but because there are comfortable wild pears. Well, at least they brought the fish. And pears ... because of the rains, they all seem to be sick. Usually, around August, this is with leaves. I came without leaves! At home it rains three times a day. I barely have time to collect raspberries between drops. Strawberries need to be cut, I can't do it!
Elena Kadiewa
Radushka, the same story! Rains, rains, rains, the leaves do not have time to dry out on the stems, I can’t collect anything, but it dried up for 2 days, and even then it seemed to be underdeveloped.
Don't worry about tea! Everything will work out!

the main thing is not to gnaw your husband!

Tiger striped
I think I also dried out the currants. My dryer is very primitive, no one knows exactly what the temperatures are. I put it on full last night, assuming it was 70 degrees. I dried it for an hour and a half, turned it off, checked it this morning - yeah, it rings. And some of the leaves did not dry out at all. She put the ringing one into a bag, brewed a handful for a sample, about 10 minutes in a teapot ... Pale and without a currant smell. The rest was dried at low - presumably 40 degrees - and put into the same bag. If you shake it in a bag, it smells. Maybe try to brew in a thermos?
I played Ivan tea. I almost died - the central veins are hammered into the lattice of my antediluvian manual meat grinder. From a whole packet of leaves turned out a miserable plastic box scrolled, covered with a wet napkin and a lid, in 4 hours I will check.
Borkovna
Quote: Radushka

And pears ... because of the rains, they all seem to be sick. Usually, around August, this is with leaves. I came without leaves!
Radushka, as I understand you .... a week ago I wrote the same thing about the pear. In the gully on the wild, all sick leaves have long been, from the very beginning of June, when she began to harvest the leaves. And my neighbor could not tear healthy ones, the trees were processed immediately after flowering. While I was waiting for the drugs to pass, until I gave a decent supply ... I managed to pick up from two pears ... 300 g Leaves became sick in a couple of days, and then it rains again ...
Radushka
elena kadiewagnawing his (husband's) - breaking his teeth
filirina
Quote: Radushka
gnaw his (husband) - break his teeth


Sistra! Yes, they, husbands, are made of granite! You can't break it!
Tiger striped
It is a pity, you cannot establish interchange. We have this pear, like shoe polish, in the garden, and it just grows. But there is absolutely no blackberry.
Natalo4-ka
Quote: Tigger Striped
It is a pity, you cannot establish interchange.
Uh-huh. I would use a wild pear, smuda, chokeberry, Ivanushka for mulberry, goof would give up and even though mulberry and goof have a rating in the voting is not great, but I think this is more due to the inaccessibility of the leaf, rather than by the taste and aromatic properties of tea.
Tiger striped
Mushroomer, oh, but in our forest mulberry grows! Brest region, Berezovsky district. Thank you for reminding us about her!
I read about pine shoots, twisted in a meat grinder, but did not find what time they can be harvested. Is it too late in early July? We have a lot of pine trees here.
Barquentine
Pear does not taste bitter if picked now.? There are no fruits yet.
Borkovna
I just finished drying the first kg of grapes with the addition of a little pear and raspberry .. the smell .. it was something divine when I opened the bag this morning (after defrosting all day yesterday, plus just in the fridge overnight), when twisted and fermented, when dried !!! It was not a house ... but the spring hut of the sorceress-tea-maker. It became very tasty to live with such a constant smell. The pies and buns are delicious .. but the smell goes away quickly, but this one does not .. it constantly withers, then thaws, then twists ... and so on.
Allochka, Thanks again for the grape tea! I noted for myself that from grape leaves and from a large proportion of mulberry leaves, teas are obtained by smell that are thinner, lighter, sweeter ... I do not know how else to describe .... than the rest.
Lyudmilka, and I want to thank you again for that ...that you opened the whole world to all of us !!!!! : a-kiss: And not only opened, but also rush with us with everyone tirelessly ...
Barquentine, I collected from 2 pears and the smell from the leaves in the bag was well, very tasty ... By whether the pear leaves are bitter now or not, if the fruits are not yet ripe, I cannot say anything. I threw it in a grape vine, plus I added the same amount of raspberry leaves.

Natalo4-ka
Tiger striped, Anya, far away and friends do not have it.
I'm already thinking of making an ad in the internet: I will accept mulberry leaves as a gift in exchange for herbal tea))))
Loha I can't find anyway
Barquentine
I somehow bought honey from a sucker. Delicious. My husband laughed that I was a sucker. Loch in the Crimea saw.
lappl1
Quote: Tigger Striped
I read about pine shoots, twisted in a meat grinder, but did not find what time they can be harvested. Is it too late in early July? We have a lot of pine trees here.
Tiger striped, Anya, how did you not find it? Do you read the recipe carefully? It seems not ... Sorry, but this is not the first question you ask, the answer to which is in the recipe itself. Here, I brought a quote from it especially for you:
Quote: lappl1
For reference: the process of collecting shoots does not harm pines. On the contrary! If you break off only half of the shoot, then the pine will become fluffier the next year. This technique is used specifically for the formation of the crown of coniferous trees. It's important to do it in Mayuntil the shoots have budded for next year. Such shoots are called "candles", they are very tender and have not yet overgrown with needles. .
And in the photo you can see very clearly how pine shoots look when they easy tea to do. But you can make tea from conifers all year round. We pinched needles in winter too. however, this is no longer an easy task - the needles are pricked, so you need to pluck them in mittens. So make tea now if you like.
Quote: Borkovna
Lyudmilka, and I want to thank you once again for ... that you opened the whole world to us all !!!!! And not only did you open it, but you rush with us with everyone tirelessly ...
Borkovna, Helen, to your health. I am very glad that your world has become a little brighter with our tea.
Tiger striped
Ludmila, Oh damn. And I really didn't see about May, sorry. Well, if you can do it all year round, I'll try it now, at least a little for a test.
Yesterday I dried my first Ivan-tea. I think I'll be the first one who didn't like it. The smell is strange, I don't even know what to call it. Now I brewed it in a spoon for testing - the taste is just as strange. I did this: evening and night, he lay in a sheet, in the morning, scrolling through a meat grinder and for fermentation from half past eleven to 9. Drying in an airfryer - 15 minutes at 150, 20 at 100 and drying. A total of 9.5 hours of fermentation. I just don't know what to think.
Elena Kadiewa
Strange ... the first such review about Ivanushka ...
Well, take it away, maybe later you will like it when he wakes up the aroma.

But the thought gnaws at me - somewhere you screwed up.
Maybe you should have fermented less to begin with?
Radushka
Quote: Tigger Striped
The smell is strange
Quote: Tigger Striped
the taste is just as strange
Agree! The taste and smell of Ivan tea is ABSOLUTELY unlike anything, unless you ferment it for more than a day. My long-suffering Ivanushka drove to me in a mailbox for almost 5 days. After twisting, it fermented for another 12 hours. Now, after a YEAR of storage in a glass jar, it has stopped smelling like willow tea, but it smells like expensive black

I do not brew, because there is very little of it

.
Maybe Anya doesn't like his own aroma and taste and that's why she calls him strange? After all, some people smell cherry paint
Tiger striped
Cherry is my favorite ... And here I don't even know what to say. Distantly, it smells like rotted greens from lawns, I would not even call it a scent. Maybe I screwed up where, but I don't understand where. But my over-dried currants now smell very nice, hanging in a bag.
PS And the aroma of Ivanchay can be influenced by where it was going? It grows here only in the sun itself, so there are already a lot of spoiled and yellowed leaves, however, I tried to remove these.
Radushka
Anna, I do not think that the yellowed leaves affected. The leaves from the package were of different colors. And yellowed, and green, and brown-brown. Obviously, fermentation was in progress. They were wrapped in filter paper (many layers), but this did not protect them. BUT ... there was no smell of the beginning of decay. Maybe the leaves were badly withered and, in combination with the high fermentation temperature and a rather long period, rotting began?
Linadoc
Quote: Tigger Striped
Distantly, it smells like rotted greens from lawns, I would not call it a scent.
Anna, this is something wrong. Was it really Ivan-tea? There are tea makers on this forum for whom Vanka is by no means the best tea in taste and aroma (and I am one of them). But no one smelled like rotted greens, there was always a fruity-floral aroma. It is necessary to check whether it is, if it is, then it is necessary to try to ferment the hours 18-20.
svetn
Quote: Tigger Striped
Yesterday I dried my first Ivan-tea. I think I'll be the first one who didn't like it. The smell is strange
Practically my thoughts last year, after the first batch of tea! I even wrote down on the label "the taste is harsh, empty and hard, the smell of grass", does this sound like your opinion? Don't be upset! It will still be fixed! Pour into a jar and remove for a few months. And most importantly, do not abandon this tea business. I have been convinced more than once, fireweed is very tasty in a mix with some other herbs. I don’t drink mono fireweed, I don’t like it! But if you dry another leaf of pear, apple, raspberry and currant (separately, but mix it according to your mood, in a teapot) it's a fairy tale! This year I am going to dry the rowan berries, it is very tasty to add + viburnum syrup + "honey" from fireweed to tea.
Radushka
svetn, Svetlana,
Quote: svetn
most importantly, do not abandon this tea business
Exactly!

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