Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

But meadow geranium is interesting. Is it very smelly fresh?

Smelling fresh. Rub the leaf with your fingers and there is a very pleasant smell. Maybe I'll go pick a bag today.

[NataliARH]

I found in the subject that you tried to twist a sheet in a meat grinder without a knife and a grate (it was bad), but if with a grate and without a knife and 2-3 times? I just watched the video on YouTube, like a special one. the machine twists the withered leaves of Ivan-tea with a crush, for some reason it seems that something similar should turn out ...

NataliARH, Natasha, there is no mass at all with a grate and without knives. I have 3 manual meat grinders. I tried all of them - it doesn't work, it gets stuck. And a special machine costs a lot of money. I saw her too. It is from China that producers of willow tea bring themselves. On the same there they make a traditional sheet tea. I’ll certainly better adapt it - make a ruble. He works well for Ivan tea, but I haven't tried it on garden tea yet. I think that it should go well through deep freezing.

What kind of cherry? I collected the felt yesterday, dried it overnight, the sheets are sooo dry, after a meat grinder it crumbles into dust. I put it on fermentation, but the mass was simply pressed into a monolith. Did I do something wrong or is it the cherry variety?

chesa, the cherry is needed, as the girls said - the simplest one that forms the shoots. You need to rub the leaves with your hands and smell. There will be a pleasant and strong aroma - it means she. Felt cherries do not make tea. The girls tried it. If only in mixes for mass, but not aroma and taste.

chesa, a cherry is needed, as the girls said - the simplest one that forms shoots. You need to rub the leaves with your hands and smell. There will be a pleasant and strong aroma - it means she. Felt cherries do not make tea. The girls tried it. If only in mixes for mass, but not aroma and taste.

It’s the simplest one for you, we don’t grow wild in our country, for example, I haven’t seen cherries other than felt cherries. It must be ordered from somewhere. Thank you made it clear

[electric meat grinders]

With him there is less trouble, and it is stored more compactly, the only condition is the presence of a normal electric meat grinders!

This tame is good for smelt -

[vlek]

vlek, a manual grinder is good for smelt if male power is attached to it

a manual meat grinder is good for smelt if male power is attached to it

This is definitely noticed! And maybe more time ...
And in general, where these rarities are found, I’m talking about a meat grinder, for the first time in my life I see that the shaft, knife and grate are fastened with a screw! Usually on a meat grinder, the pressure ring is threaded. So we don't have such meat grinders. We're electric, electric ...

By the way, to the question of the meat grinder and leaves. In the photo of the manual meat grinder there is a kebab attachment (or whatever it is called correctly).
Has anyone tried using it for leaves? After all, such a thing is attached to electric meat grinders.

with a grate and without knives, there is no mass at all

yes, I have already presented this process while standing at the meat grinder itself ... from all the collected apple and raspberry leaves, I chose bags with a completely apple tree ferlist and scrolled it 2 times on a fine wire rack, and then 2 more times with grate without knife, but some granules were not dense, more or less worms turned out, they stand in a saucepan until the evening, then I will dry

after the first scroll I put everything in a bucket, there were 6-7 liters, and after the last one, 3-4 liters in volume

I'll thaw the trail tomorrow. batch and bring it to dry, on the weekend I will collect more leaves and while they freeze-thaw I will bring the last. batch before drying ....or even everything will be ready for tomorrow, it's just that there are raspberries and an apple tree, if you dry them together in the oven on different baking sheets, nothing will happen? smells will not be exchanged?

[filirina]

filirina, Irina, yes, strongly fragrant meadow geranium fresh

Added Wednesday 08 Jun 2016 02:05 PM

there is a very pleasant smell

Well, it's like someone. Some don't like

[NataliARH]

NataliARH, are you making mono tea?

Yes, separate apple tree today, tomorrow - raspberry and apple tree (leftovers), can I dry on different baking sheets?

[NataliARH]

NataliARH, dry, nothing bad will happen. I would have mixed them during the fermentation process, I like this tea more.

yes, strongly fragrant meadow geranium fresh

Clear. Then I won't even search!

[NataliARH]

NataliARHMix nothing terrible. Only many different types of leaves are not needed. The tea turns out to be very fragrant and you can't understand what flavor prevails.

tomorrow - raspberries and apple trees (leftovers

Mix nothing scary

no, I just wanted to make different mono in order to understand what is mine and not mine ... here I have already finished it myself: the raspberries have drying at 80 and the apple tree has 100, so I will cook separately, but I will make all the plants from the dacha mono , I will try "young tea" and I will only do the mix so that everything goes faster

[knife and grate]

for the first time in my life I see that there would be a shaft, knife and grate fastened with a screw!

Instead of a knife, there is another rotating grate (the inner one with large holes is fixed), and most importantly, in the middle there are guiding protrusions that drive the mass into the grates.

[NataliARH]

NataliARH, Natasha, when you mix immediately when scrolling or even when withering (like me), then the granules then turn out better and stronger in such teas, in which they crumble in mono-form.

[NataliARH]

NataliARH, Raspberries crumble and currants, it is better to add a little apple tree. And so observe and draw conclusions.

tea-dust is not scary for me, well, suddenly I don't like something from the smelly, I will exclude it from the tea, but you can then mix all the mono teas in an already completely dried form ... well, there will be no granules ... I make mistakes, otherwise it’s not so interesting to study, or maybe I’ll be a fan of mono-raspberries (there are some here), but I won’t find out about it without having prepared everything separately

we do not grow as much as Elena Kadieva wrote, here: honeysuckle, red and black currants, raspberries, different apple trees, blackberry, victoria, irga, cherry, gooseberry, sea buckthorn (I did not plan to do it from gooseberry and sea buckthorn ... sea ​​buckthorn write badly in tea)

right now the apple tree is drying, set the top-bottom-convection 100g, the door is slightly open, the temperature sensor lies on the surface of the tea and shows 80, I interfere in 5-10 minutes, add the temperature?

dry on three baking sheets, the granules nevertheless crumbled, very wet, there was no withering

[NataliARH]

NataliARH, I do not have a thermometer, I look at my feelings. I open, take out, mix. There is a scent for the whole apartment. (Gas oven)

[Antonina]

Antonina, the aroma is worth it, I like it, my husband came from a walk .... I ask whether it smells good or not, says "not very much" and left with a small walk again

By the way GOOSEBERRY suitable for tea (if you have enough patience to collect)? He is not in the poll ...

Added Wednesday 08 Jun 2016 5:56 pm

a question arose ... what are the characteristics to understand that you need to transfer drying from 100 to 60g? I have 3 baking sheets in my oven, it might be too early to do this ...

[NataliARH]

maybe I'll be a fan of mono-raspberries (there are some)

NataliARH, There are ... THERE IS! Join us!
By the way, why did you decide that raspberries must be dried at 80? I dry it with a fry. This aroma appears ... candy

Raspberry maniac!

Today I picked raspberries and mint separately, wilted. Now I'll put it in the freezer according to the Zacharias method. So I'm thinking about mixing raspberries with mint in a meat grinder and fermenting together or not?

[NataliARH]

a question arose ... what are the characteristics to understand that you need to transfer drying from 100 to 60g? I have 3 baking sheets in my oven, it might be too early to do this ...

NataliARH, Natasha, I just crawled to the computer, and here there are a lot of questions. It seems that the girls answered everything, but about the signs by which you need to lower the temperature ...
In general, the mass becomes mostly free-flowing, but the granules are also crushed or crumbled when pressed. Then turn on 60 *. And watch ... Here the drying is already proceeding quickly.

But by the way, is the gooseberry suitable for tea (if you have enough patience to collect)? He is not in the poll ...

You get tired of collecting leaves. Someone did (in my opinion Rada-Olya), but the reviews are not very good. If time is not a pity, then add narvi to the mixes.
Although you want to try everything in mono first ... Great approach! In general, rely on the glossary at first. And then you will add less common scent.

[elena kadiewa]

elena kadiewa,
Florichka, Irina, don't mix! It is better to dry the mint separately at a temperature of about 40

[NataliARH]

NataliARH, Natasha, I do from what we have, as they say, what they are rich in ... but in Novosib there is more smelt than in us, the apple trees were planted last year only for the sake of the leaves, I'm not sure if I can wait. Red currants give only mass, no aroma, sea buckthorn and gooseberries were added to the village. You have a bird cherry, and a blackberry, and a cherry - there is something to turn around! In general, from all that you have listed, I make country tea, with the exception of the apple tree.

[Florichka]

Today I picked raspberries and mint separately, wilted. Now I'll put it in the freezer according to the Zacharias method. So I'm thinking about mixing raspberries with mint in a meat grinder and fermenting together or not?

Florichka, Ira, we have a special mint - it will not withstand high temperatures during drying. And if you ferment it, then very little - an hour or two ... And raspberries need more time. I just did mint yesterday. I decided to ferment first, she lay for half an hour ... But I realized that I didn't really like the changing smell. and quickly put it into the dryer at 45 *. For raspberries, this temperature is low.

[NataliARH]

right now the apple tree is drying, set the top-bottom-convection 100g, the door is slightly open, the temperature sensor lies on the surface of the tea and shows 80, I interfere in 5-10 minutes, add the temperature?

NataliARH, there is no need to add temperature in the middle of the process. And the fact that there are 80 * on the surface is normal. Remember the temperature that determines the readiness of the bread ... Exactly, not the same temperature as in the oven. Therefore, we boldly "fry" the tea at the beginning of drying at 150 *.

Well, then I'll do it separately, but I want to do it with fermentation, I just always dried it, I want to try it differently. I have it spikelet varieties, a lot of green mass and tall stems. The aroma is moderate. Then, as he grows up, I want to make lemon balm and monarda (bergamot). I bought it in pots in Ashan, and it has taken root so well that it has taken root and is now growing like a carpet, the smell is wonderful!

[Ira]

Ira, try to ferment and compare, and then you will tell us.

I have a spikelet variety, a lot of green mass and tall stems.

I'll google what sort it is. I have not heard of this.

Girls, scrolled in a meat grinder 2 times, poured into a bucket and cover with a wet rag and leave for how long or can you dry immediately? Some kind of porridge is right in my head.

[ninza]

ninza, Nina, cover all this with a warm blanket or something else warm and leave for 5-8 hours, maybe less. Look at the smell and warmth of the raw materials. (Open and look) The current can then be dried.

Added Wednesday 08 Jun 2016 8:59 pm

Fermentation of leaves of garden plants spend on average 6-8 hours, depending on the temperature. The smell of the mass during fermentation does not radically change (like that of willow tea), it simply intensifies and acquires interesting notes - each plant has its own. It is important to "catch" the strongest odor (this will be easy with experience). This moment will be the signal for the end of fermentation. This is quoting, as Luda does.

sea ​​buckthorn write misbehaves in tea

I didn't make mono sea buckthorn, but in the garden mix it behaved very decently!

[filirina]

By the way, why did you decide that raspberries must be dried at 80? I dry it with a fry. This aroma appears ... candy

I'm glad, on the first page of the recipe, first 80, then 50-60 are written .... there is not a word about frying at all, I did not know about it! How do you dry? I'll write it down, I'll do it tomorrow!

Then turn on 60 *. And watch ... Here the drying is already proceeding quickly.

hmm ...I dry from 19-00 and already we have 24-00 and there is barely a hint of ringing! How much time does it take for you to dry?
I understood about gooseberries

except for apple tree

Elena, do you like the apple tree separately or not?

boldly "fry" the tea at the beginning of drying at 150 *.

Luda, what is the time to keep at 150? can add it to the beginning of the recipe?

Added Wednesday 08 Jun 2016 09:19 PM

filirina, Ira, I'll take into account the sea buckthorn, it's just that the leaves have not really grown there yet, small, you have to wait

Irgu also did not collect for this reason - so far the leaves are small

Luda, what is the time to keep at 150? can add it to the beginning of the recipe?

Natasha, there is this in the recipe. Here the quote brought:

You can try drying the tea using the method used by Chinese manufacturers for certain types of tea. This method is called "frying". To do this, first set the drying temperature to 125 - 150 * for 10 - 20 minutes. This temperature allows the plant sap sugars to caramelize on the top of the granules and seal the rest of the sap inside. Then dry the tea as described in the recipe. This method gives a light caramel aroma and flavor to the tea..

hmm ... I dry from 19-00 and already we have 24-00 and there is barely a hint of ringing! How much time does it take for you to dry? I understood about gooseberries

Natasha, in different ways! I have a mini oven and 2 baking sheets. In general, the batch is dried for two hours.

I'm glad, on the first page of the recipe, first 80, then 50-60 are written .... there is not a word about frying at all, I did not know about it! How do you dry? I'll write it down, I'll do it tomorrow!

It's a classic. When I was writing the recipe, I did not know about the "frying" yet. And when I found out and tried it, I liked it. But I did not dry mono-raspberries this way (and currants too) - I want to keep its original taste and smell, and we will get "caramel" on other teas.

poured into a bucket and cover with a wet rag and leave for how long or can you dry immediately?

close all this with a warm blanket or something else warm and leave for 5-8 hours, maybe less. Look at the smell and warmth of the raw materials.

Lina wrote to me: let it freeze, then defrost for 3-4 hours, freeze again for 3-4 hours, again defrost for 2-3 hours, scroll and let fermentation for 1.5 hours, then dry. First, frost all night, and in the morning you will start defrosting and freezing.

[Light]

LightWait already improved the methods! Could be so!

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, sorry! I read the recipe more than 5 times, my eyes have already failed, and with the mind too

and the ringing is when you pour granules in your hands near the ear, and they bumping against each other emit an audible sound and when they fall on the baking sheet, is there a knock too? this is it?)))

in general, tea turned out to be such an ambush for me! I was just glad that I did not turn on the oven for several months (after the acquisition of the princess), when I turned up tea ... and at a temperature of +21 outside, at the moment 00h50min at home +31 and this with a wide open balcony, why should

[NataliARH]

NataliARHDon't panic! All right!

and the ringing is when you pour granules in your hands near the ear, and they bumping against each other emit an audible sound and when they fall on the baking sheet, is there a knock too? this is it?)))

I define it by "rustling like fried seeds" means ready.

[Antonina]

Antonina, I try not to panic)

Light, I often fry the seeds, thanks for the presentation!

and the ringing is when you pour granules in your hands near the ear, and they bumping against each other emit an audible sound and when they fall on the baking sheet, is there a knock too? this is it?)))

Natasha, the term "ringing" was invented by Zakhar. The word "rustling" sound is closer to me. In general, in the finished tea, the granules do not crumble, but break. Do not worry. What does not dry out in the oven will dry in a bag.

at the moment 00h50min at home +31 and this with a wide open balcony, why do that

Natasha, I'm on the street under a canopy. The mini oven is easy for me to take out.And in this heat, I would buy a mini-oven and keep it on the balcony.

the balcony overlooks a busy street, there is a lot of soot flying, 3rd floor, well, the temperature on it from morning to 14.00 is 40-48g with open windows ... something needs to be invented

[NataliARH]

NataliARH, in 2014 I bought a portable oven especially for tea, because from spring to autumn nothing can be done in the oven because of the heat.

Last year, shutters were installed outside the bedrooms (east), now you can sleep peacefully in the morning and the sun does not warm.
Inside, all the windows have roller blinds and curtains, and on the western and southern windows there is also a sunscreen

.

[NataliARH]

what to do then

NataliARH, Natasha, it was warm to Kamchatka, to Kamchatka!

You are promised up to 32 next week! Lucky ones ...

Well, with tea ..., yes ... As you get carried away you will not stop. The oven is so warm throughout the apartment.
You can leave the leaves in the freezer and wait for a cold snap

Added Thursday, 09 Jun 2016 00:35

and on the western and southern also sunscreen

Yeah ... comrades ... we can't understand you We have every greenhouse on account

Len, we had 37 yesterday in the sun, I did not leave the house, and the dog under the terrace lay in the coolness, it was even too lazy to bark.

even barking was too lazy.

it happens!
All right, now drive us warmly! We were longing ... Ivanushka got out and wondered ... what to do in such a cold place!
When will my tea time come

Well I sent you a part when it got warmer, where are you going?
picked up a big portion of Ivanushka, in the heat I will sort it out in the house.

Added Thursday, 09 Jun 2016 03:49

Oh, we're bazaar on the wrong topic, right now Lyudochka ayayay will make us ...

[francevna]

francevna, Alla

yes, only full disguise will save ... I am more inclined to move to another apartment

on this topic

it turned out 550gr of ready-made tea from three baking sheets, because it is not applicable to dry it in the wind to my apartment - gases from a busy street, dried it all night in the oven, about 10 hours for 34g on the surface of the tea ... only on weekends I can hang it in the country, won't it get moldy?