Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

[lappl1]

lappl1, Thank you! What's the difference in the methods? Does the amount of freezing / defrosting affect the quality of the tea or does it just simplify further processing of the leaves?

[Seberia]

Seberia, Elena, but no dryer? Leave on low temperature overnight.

Added on Tuesday 07 Jun 2016 00:30

IrinaSakura, Irina, tea according to the Zacharias method has a richer color and taste and fermentation takes little time.
Do what is most convenient at the moment. All summer is ahead.

Added on Tuesday 07 Jun 2016 00:32

Seberia, Lena, can dry it in a frying pan, where the water will evaporate faster. Only at low temperatures.

[francevna]

francevna, no
He was underdried, of course. She poured it into a pillowcase and hung it up in the room to dry.
But in our current weather (plus 7 in the afternoon and rain), I have no idea what could happen.

[Elena]

Elena, time will be, dry it.
Is your "towel" hot in your bathroom? Put your tea pillowcase in there.

[Seberia]

But with our current weather (in the afternoon plus 7 and rain)

Seberia, Lena, we are also cold and constant humidity. I dry in the oven just with the light on. Dries very well

[IrinaSakura]

What's the difference in the methods? Does the amount of freezing / defrosting affect the quality of the tea or does it just simplify further processing of the leaves?

IrinaSakura, I already wrote that I myself did not make tea using the Zacharias method due to life circumstances. But purely theoretically, I think it's easier and tastier. It's better to ask Zakhar about this in the subject. When I do it myself, I will answer competently. And so everything is very good. praise his method. Try and compare.

He was underdried, of course. She poured it into a pillowcase and hung it up in the room to dry.

Seberia, Lena, dry in the oven or dryer at the lowest temperature.
Flax, a question, of course, from the category of "salt on the wound", moreover, a rhetorical one, but why did you collect soaps in the rain, and then also soaps?

Girls, tell me who came across. I was interested in the topic, there are so many tasty things in the garden, BUT .. my grandfather waters the garden and pours it from pests and diseases several times over the summer. Do not recommend washing the leaves according to technology, what should I do? wait a couple weeks and good rains? I'm afraid something that will remain poison. Or still collect, wash and see if it will ferment? Or even spit on this business and look for leaves where they are not poured? What do you think?

[chesa]

chesa, I think so, the leaves can be plucked where they are not treated with chemistry and tea tastes better from wild plants (apple, raspberry, strawberry)

[chesa]

chesa, but I wash it anyway ... I can't resist, they are dirty with me ...

chesa, I think the leaves can be plucked where they are not treated with chemistry and tea tastes better from wild plants (apple, raspberry, strawberry)

We have only apple and hawthorn among the wilds, and even those in the village along the roads, and I will not climb into the forest, the season of ticks, danger.
So the choice is either collection along the road or sprayed. I’ll go on a visit to where the garden is not poisoned, only when it’s that, and for a couple of weeks in total. And here such a garden disappears, and the whole season is nearby ((

I do not wash, I collect in the neighboring gardens, dachas, they do not cultivate there. BUT! We have almost no garden trees, Siberia, you know.
Nevertheless, how long does chemistry last? Will it all go into tea?
I would take the risk, dress accordingly (we also have a sea of ​​ticks!), Spray and collect leaves in the forest.But it depends on the desire to make or not make tea, we are already "infected" with our teas, so we risk it! After the rain, wait a few hours for the leaves to dry and the beneficial bacteria to settle on the leaves, but this is all written in the recipes.

I do not wash, I collect in the neighboring gardens, dachas, they do not cultivate there. BUT! We have almost no garden trees, Siberia, you know.
Nevertheless, how long does chemistry last? Will it all go into tea?
I would take the risk, dress accordingly (we also have a sea of ​​ticks!), Spray and collect leaves in the forest. But it depends on the desire to make or not make tea, we are already "infected" with our teas, so we risk it! After the rain, wait a few hours for the leaves to dry and the beneficial bacteria to settle on the leaves, but this is all written in the recipes.

The risk is a noble cause when it is justified, and not when you risk another life, and the next months you should not put it to the test because of the desire to drink tea))))

[chesa]

collect, wash,

chesa, dry and wither. And make tea.

chesa, dry and wither. And make tea.

I am inclined to this, however, there is one cherry behind the fence, it is not watered, for a start I pluck it. And then, with enthusiasm, she pulled the currants, twirled them, and only then remembered that grandfather was sprinkling his beloved garden with chemistry there, she asked, and he filled everything literally three days ago. I left it for the test, I'll see how it ferments, smell it, estimate it in time and throw it away

[chesa]

chesa, chemically treated leaves will ferment. Do not doubt. But you are so worried about your lives if you go to the forest, There the danger will immediately manifest itself, if God forbid that. But the sprayed scent is fraught with the danger of delayed action. Collect leaves where they have not been sprayed. And I would categorically not make tea from such leaves. You yourself wrote:

Risk is a noble cause when justified

I think that making tea from sprayed leaves is an unjustified risk.

[chesa]

chesa, I have a "remark" about "chemistry".
It depends on what the plants were treated with. This is the first thing. Chemistry is also different. Some are absorbed into the plant, some forms a film. It is necessary to withstand the standby mode recommended by the manufacturer of the drug (they write on each pack). If possible, it is better to increase the time period from processing to collection.
three days is not enough. Usually, the standby mode is two to three weeks.

It has been raining for 3 days, cold and damp. The rain, on the one hand, will wash the leaves and twigs. But drying and fermenting is bad. I picked a whole bunch of raspberries along with the stems. It was a pity to throw out the trunks, I cut them finely and dried them. And the leaves were fermented on a heating pad. And dried in a dryer.

Chemistry is also different. Some are absorbed into the plant, some forms a film. It is necessary to withstand the standby mode recommended by the manufacturer of the drug (they write on each pack)

Regarding the recommendations of manufacturers: in my deep young years, studying in the specialty of analytical chemistry, I was lucky to do scientific work on the residues of herbicides and pesticides in soils after treatments. It was the leftovers after the terms indicated by the manufacturer that were checked!
NO, girls, I personally will not make tea from processed plants, and I strongly DO NOT RECOMMEND it to you.
Do not forget that the manufacturer does not care about you! And these "residual" quantities, but at our rates, this is a lot more! You can become a kid. The tale is old, but very relevant!

[filirina]

filirina, Irina, I say, chemistry is different! Suppose I treat my plants from powdery mildew with a solution of soda ash with the addition of soap. It will never be absorbed into the plant itself, even if you flood it. Washed off by a couple of rains. Well, you can wash the leaves. There are now biological defenses against fungal diseases. Some drugs do not have a standby mode at all. There is a DIFFERENT principle of operation.
I was also involved in analytical chemistry.And I tested the same thing, only not in the soil, but in animal feed. So that...

[Mila1]

Mila1, Luda, it means that the withered ones will fit into the freezer more! It's good that I have a mania at the very beginning, so I need everything and more
the temperature on the balcony is 48g with open windows to the street and into the room, I warm it up there ...

elena kadiewa, Lena, in what city of Siberia do you live?

chesa, we sprayed black. currants in one dacha with a copper cupola, in no case will I collect leaves there, and I'm afraid of any other chemistry, it's everyone's business ... to collect or not

it's everyone's business ... to collect or not

[NataliARH]

I say, chemistry is different!

I am afraid that an ordinary consumer of this chemistry is not so enlightened and will not be able to separate the grains from the chaff when choosing preparations for the treatment of plants ... Not all chemists-analysts, to know these subtleties.

then the withered ones will fit into the freezer more! It's good that I have a mania at the very beginning, so I need everything and more

NataliARHNatasha, aha, it fits a little more ... But don't rely on the initial stage of mania ... The further, the stronger it is ...

In our life, everything is solid chemistry. Well, let at least the tea be natural.

Not all analytical chemists

it's a pity
Well, besides, modern means of protection are much more expensive, unfortunately

[lappl1]

lappl1, Luda will prepare relatives for this, they already twirled at the temple)))) here they will try the tea ..... let's see who was right

Mila1, Luda, it means that the withered ones will fit into the freezer more!

Natasha, did you put the dried ones into the freezer or what?

Irina, I say the same, chemistry is different

Yes, Radushka, but Luda correctly noted that it is necessary to understand this! It is clear that even pour soda and soap, nothing will happen, even if you take a drink inside, you will not get poisoned either, but the big question is, what exactly is that grandfather pouring?
At her mother-in-law's dacha, a neighbor grows organic vegetables for the family, and at the same time every year she fills the whole garden with roundup, well, and then even little things, something there from something else, and I am firmly sure that they do not eat chemistry!
Therefore, I write that after processing, no teas can be made.

[Mila1]

Mila1, in the method of hardening in the freezer according to Zakhar, this fad was missed, it was written that they lay in bags from evening to evening, then in the freezer, then warming up, etc. ... and now Luda added "wilted" and several people did without withering in the air, that is, they dried in a package, as Zakhar wrote initially, well, nothing, everything worked out already with the pioneers, which means I will succeed)))) but in the next. once the EU, but I'll wither!

[NataliARH]

I will prepare my relatives for this, they already twirled them at their temples)))) here they will try the tea ..... let's see who was right

NataliARH, Natasha, I advise you to brew your tea with it, but do not say that you made it ... Just give it time to brew for a couple of months.

the temperature on the balcony is 48g with open windows to the street and into the room, I warm it up there ...

Natasha, are you so hot now ???

[Alla]

Alla, on the street now according to the data of 25.5gr, and this is on my glazed balcony +48 in the sun (I wonder how long it is when everything is closed), but with open doors to the street and to the apartment, in the apartment itself +31 the sunny side is called from morning to 14-00 approximately ... but in the fall and spring it is very warm when everyone else is freezing, and in winter we just turn off the batteries, and in the spring, when it’s not cold outside (literally), we additionally pack it in foam that is ready for pipes for sale

[francevna]

francevna, Allochka,

Is your "towel" hot in your bathroom?

the hot water was turned off, as planned This is so that life does not seem like honey to me at all

Elena_Kamch, Helen,

Drying in the oven just with the light on

so I decided to stop at this method. True, I put it in the oven on the grate right in the pillowcase. Hopefully. so, too, everything will dry.And then while I pour it back and forth, there will be no granules at all.

lappl1, Lyudochka,

Flax, a question, of course, from the category of "salt on the wound", moreover, a rhetorical one, but why did you collect soaps in the rain, and then also soaps?

This coincidence is called
We go to the dacha once on a hard day, the pines are there. And the season of "young pine candles" is coming to an end, isn't it? Or have I confused everything? In general, I was in a hurry to collect them while they are there. Only the weather let down, it rains every day now, so I had no choice - to wait for dry weather
Well, but I washed it .. To be clean I forgot all the nuances of tea making in a year. I shouldn’t wash it, of course.

Thank you girls for the tips and concerns. Hope the tea is great anyway

[Seberia]

so I decided to stop on this method

Seberia, Helen, it dries up very well there! Warm and dry. I think everything will turn out great!

Girls, in the gazebo, 1 p. there is a heating picture that hangs on the wall of my house. The heating is weak, you can put it horizontally and dry the tea on it. They also specially produce mats for drying shoes, you can put your feet for heating.

[Seberia]

This coincidence is called

Seberia, Helen, I thought so ... When there are no leaves nearby, I want to pick more. Okay, don't worry. The benefits of your pine tree have not gone anywhere ...

We had a crazy downpour on the night from Friday to Saturday. And I was going to bake a strawberry biscuit. I collected strawberries in the evening, washed them from dirt, dried them in a carousel. But when baking, it blurred, although usually everything is OK. There was a lot of moisture in the berry ... But it was tasty, like the usual one, with drier berries. So, Lenochka, everything will be OK.

And today my mint has dried in a dryer in half an hour ... Mint, in principle, dries quickly, but in Russia it has never dried so quickly ... That's what a different climate we have ...

[francevna]

heating picture

francevna, Alla, where can you buy such pictures? Now it is not relevant, but I think that this should be. And then I have email. a soft heating pad, but it keeps the high temperature at a minimum. You can't put it directly on it.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Lyudochka, I painted a picture and two wall heaters from Crimea. Make a request "Warmth of Crimea", it should appear.

[francevna]

francevna, Allochka, thanks, I'll take a look!

[lappl1]

lappl1, Lyudmila, I found in the subject that you tried to twist a sheet in a meat grinder without a knife and a grate (it was bad), but if with a grate and without a knife and 2-3 times? I just watched the video on YouTube, like a special one. the machine twists the withered leaves of Ivan-tea with a crush, for some reason it seems that something similar should turn out ...

Another question: you recommend twisting the cherry. What kind of cherry? I collected the felt yesterday, dried it overnight, the sheets are sooo dry, after a meat grinder it crumbles into dust. I put it on fermentation, but the mass was simply pressed into a monolith. Did I do something wrong or is it the cherry variety?

[chesa]

chesa, regular cherries. Not felted. Everyone likes it

chesa, regular cherry. Not felted. Everyone likes it

How complicated everything is with the territories) We only have felt, and I didn't think that it might not fit, I forgot (((

[chesa]

chesa, I think that you can get a regular one. If it does not give berries, then the leaves will surely be

chesa, I think you can get a regular one. If it does not give berries, then the leaves will surely be

Well, now I found an advertisement, they are selling some kind of steppe cherry seedlings. That's her?

If it does not give berries, then the leaves will surely be

Yes, for the sake of the leaves, last year I begged a small cherry bush from a friend. The buds seem to have swollen ... The leaves have not yet waited

[Elena_Kamch]

steppe cherry seedlings

Not her, of course. BUT ... you have to try. If you don't try, you won't know. It would be nice to find someone for a batch test. If you like, you can breed. I read it ... if you start it, it will be difficult to withdraw it.It gives a lot of growth, forms thickets like a thorn

Added Wednesday 08 Jun 2016 07:43

Elena_Kamch, horror! Do not scare! Our summer is cold (so far), but the cherry is already beginning

and if with a lattice and without a knife and 2-3 times?

Natasha, I think that this venture will end with the meat grinder simply clogged with a leaf and that's it! He will not climb through the grate unmilled! And on YouTube there is likely a special. machine. It's better to make a device for grinding leaves, as Luda showed, if leaf tea is so important. I personally prefer granular. With it there is less hassle, and it is stored more compactly, the only condition is the presence of a normal electric meat grinder!

Added Wednesday 08 Jun 2016 07:59

horror! Do not scare! Our summer is cold (so far), but the cherry is already beginning

Radushka, so what are the cherry leaves if they still have snow at this time? They have a specific climate there.

[filirina]

filirina, but their berries are crazy! Unlike us ... I only found blackberries in one place in my forest. And raspberries, in general, are a few pretty bushes! There are only a lot of Irga ... like weed. Vanya is gone. (they say, it is found somewhere, but not enough).
Here, I'll try meadow geranium. Its decent. I hope you enjoy it.

but they have crazy berries

Bears look like too!

But meadow geranium is interesting. Is it very smelly fresh?

[filirina]

Bears look like too!

filirina, Irina, exactlyAAA !!! People are devouring how much in vain! Several pieces every summer!

Last year, a tourist from France died while she was with a guide!

And the berries ... Well, we collect honeysuckle razik over the summer ... And so ... it's better at home than sharing the berries with bears