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Omela
Luda, tell me if fermented tea can be stored in vacuum bags. I bought coffee so packaged, maybe tea is possible? I have already filled all the jars, now I will stock up for the winter, but what to put in, I don’t know. So that it doesn't take up much space.
And further. When you throw the leaves into a meat grinder one leaf at a time or a handful?
Loksa
When I was twirling Ksyusha in a meat grinder, I put a lump of leaves like a walnut - a very large bad power, I don't have enough strength to twist, but a small one I have enough strength to twist. Still sticky leaves go better with non-sticky ones, they don't clog, they don't even clog, and they don't climb back over the top
Omela
I put it in a big handful and yes, it's hard to twist. Maybe a meat grinder because of this kirdyknula ??? So I think, maybe one piece of paper should be put, but then it will take a very long time.
lappl1
Ksyusha, I think you can. Indeed, good tea is sold in such bags. Have you seen the disposable containers on the pages of the recipe, in which my tea is packaged? I also had a "headache" for a long time about where to pour the finished tea. I was looking for something suitable in stores. And then I saw it in our market. It is very convenient to store in them. They become one on one, so there is no empty space. And they are cheap. Our smallest 0.5 liter costs 7 rubles, and the largest 2 liters. - 10 rubles. And although they are considered one-off, I have been using them for the third year now - nothing is done with them.

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

But since there are vacuum bags, Tar still have them.
Quote: Omela
When you throw the leaves into a meat grinder one leaf at a time or a handful?
A handful.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
I put it in a big handful and yes, it's hard to twist. Maybe a meat grinder because of this kirdyknula ???
I try not to shove a handful of leaves into a meat grinder, but, as it were, pull a bunch of leaves along. That is, not a lump, but a handful spread out along the line. And you will twist one piece of paper all day.
lappl1
Actually, my meat grinder does not really like to twist leaves. So I almost pray for her.
Omela
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That is, not a lump, but a handful spread out along the line.
Well, here I came to the conclusion that there is no need for a lump. And I kind of twist it so that the leaves don't fall out. So, I think I'll buy a new one so as not to burn on the first day.

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And you saw disposable containers on the pages of the recipe,
I have such. But they also need to be put somewhere. Desirable in a dark place.

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But since there are vacuum bags,
So I want to try. First, I'll wrap it in a rag. and then into the package.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
I have such. But they also need to be put somewhere. Desirable in a dark place.
Well, yes, in the dark ... I keep it in the mezzanine. And what doesn't fit in a large cigarette box. There darkness is created. True, I have where to put this box - the area of ​​the house is large.
Quote: Omela
So, I think I'll buy a new one so as not to burn on the first day.
See meat grinder with all-metal internals (sleeves). Yours had plastic ones. So the plastic could not stand the bullying. In mine, all the bushings are metal.
Omela
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In mine, all the bushings are metal.
So I'm trying to find yours on sale ... so far to no avail.

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I keep it in the mezzanine.
I don't have a mezzanine. My mezzanine is a loggia. but in winter there is frost.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
So I'm trying to find yours on sale ... so far to no avail
Look for Belarusian ones. We also sold cool meat grinders then. Or go to Moscow ...
Quote: Omela
I don't have a mezzanine.
Under beds, in sofas - also an option ... Although, you know about this without me ...
By the way, in China, tea stores are stored in freezers. But, of course, there is no temperature difference that can be on the loggia.
Omela
Quote: lappl1
Belarusian look
I just found and look .. there are so many models of them. And nowhere do they write about the material of the auger and parts. Suddenly again where the plastic will be.
tsetse fly
Contact the seller and ask him a question
Omela
Elena, so also online stores sell .. they are not in the know on the go. what's in their boxes. I'll try to find the manufacturer's website.
lappl1
I then sent my husband to the city for a meat grinder. Maybe you will send yours to Moscow too? It seems to me that this is easier than searching in Internet stores. Until they arrive, winter will come ...
Omela
Ordered for wednesday ... phew.
lappl1
Hurrah !!! How fast! Congratulations ! And which one? Is everything OK with her insides?
Omela
Xs sho there with entrails. I took this one: 🔗

They have one principle, only the number of additional attachments varies.
Galina Iv.
Girls, I don't even have time to read everything, at work ... Lyudmila, how do you have blueberries? Who made the rosehip separately?
Omela
Quote: Galina Iv.
Who made the rosehip separately?
They just brought a whole package. went to process. The bag smells good.
Galina Iv.
Oh, Omelalike me on time
Irina F
Girls! I apologize if we have already discussed: what, an electric meat grinder will not work? Do you need a special one?
Matilda_81
I'm going through the electric, zelmer.
Omela
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Do you need a special one?
No, no special is needed. Some just can't stand it and break. (
Galina Iv.
Omelahow is the rosehip doing?
lappl1
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I took this one:
Pretty! Especially the price!
lappl1
Quote: Galina Iv.
Lyudmila, how do you have blueberries?
Fermented yet. Only recently delivered. I suffered with him! It turned out to be a resistant sheet - it does not freeze, does not curl, does not wrinkle. In the evening I will dry, then I will unsubscribe what and how.
Omela
Quote: Galina Iv.
how is the rosehip doing?
fuh .. just separated the leaves from the central vein, well my husband helped .. we sat together for an hour. I doubt it. that I will be able to repeat this feat.
lappl1
Quote: Galina Iv.
and what, an electric meat grinder will not work? Do you need a special one?
Any will do - more reliable ...
lappl1
Quote: Omela
I doubt it. that I will be able to repeat this feat.
I have the same story with blueberries. I separated for 4 hours - the leaves were small. And my husband also helped, however, 40 minutes ...
Galina Iv.
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I separated for 4 hours
get crazy
Omela
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Pretty!
There is no time for beauty. If only it worked.

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4 separated
No, I pass.
lappl1
Quote: Omela
No, I pass.
I didn't know that she would behave this way ... If I repeat, then in late autumn, when there will be nothing to do ...
lappl1
Quote: Galina Iv.
get crazy
Galya, I stretched this pleasure for 2 days - in 4 approaches ...
lappl1
Quote: Omela
There is no time for beauty. If only it worked.
It should work, because it’s Belarusian ... Everything Belarusian that I have serves faithfully, without breaking or showing off. So, I always try to buy Belarusian equipment, if possible. They have a pleasant combination of price and quality. By the way

I have a pure Belarusian husband. Born in Belarus, lived there until a certain age. Can I, that's why I married him, that I love everything Belarusian? ...

Loksa

A manual meat grinder, one leaf at a time, did not want to notice my body movements, and lumps or rollers or bundles, only not very large for one or two grips, twists well
Ksyusha, can you share your impressions of the meat grinder and how is it inside her?

Lyudmila, why did they pick the blueberries? Have you tried twisting it in a meat grinder?
lappl1
Girls, reporting on blueberry... In general, it is not simple ...
First, it takes a very long time to pluck the leaves. I am 540 gr. twigs with leaves processed 4 hours in total - for 4 calls.
It froze for three days - they did not want to freeze in any way.
I pulled it out of the freezer and tried to get the juice out. And I drove over them with a rolling pin, and just crumpled in my hands, and tried to twist them in small handfuls. Nothing happened to her! So intact and unharmed went to fermentation. Darkened, though a little.
Fermented for 7 hours.
After fermentation, the leaf was very dry, although I put pressure on it and even sprinkled a little water.
I dried it for 20 minutes at 100 *, and then dried it in e-mail. dryer by 30 *, as she was afraid to dry out. The tea dried very quickly - in about 40 minutes.In general, whole leaves turned out.
Dried tea weighs 140 grams. And it takes up a volume of 2.5 liters!
There was no strong aroma. Faint pleasant aroma. The taste is sour, pleasant. But there is no astringency that I expected. I put it away for storage, I will wait until autumn. There it will become clear whether the tea is good or not. While there is no desire to repeat this tea! Not because of the taste ... Because of the laboriousness.
In the photo on the left - fermented tea. On the right - from simply dried leaves (last year's supplies).

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
Why did they pick the blueberries? Have you tried twisting it in a meat grinder?
Oksana, the leaves are very small and thin, and the twigs are rough and tough. She regretted the meat grinder. And she didn’t twist some leaves, because she was afraid that they would simply hammer in the meat grinder - for some reason they were somehow tenacious, these leaves - they stuck to my hands and it was hard to shake them off.
lappl1
Girls, I don't know where to brag. I decided here as this is the most visited topic. Inspired by the excellent results of making linden honey according to the recipe madam.stv1 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=197660.0 , I could not calmly look at the blooming fireweed. I decided to try to make "honey" from its flowers.
Look at the beauty! The color is awesome! The taste is very pleasant, with a bitter taste.

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

In essence, it is, of course, syrup. But thick, stringy! And delicious! Until the fireweed has faded, try ...

Crochet
Therefore, I stopped fermenting mint and lemon balm. And I do the following: I collect mint and lemon balm, cut off the leaves without withering, twist it in a meat grinder and immediately send the resulting granules to the dryer at 40 - 50 * C for 40 minutes. Then I reduce the temperature to 30 * and dry it to the end. The granules dry quickly.

Lyudochka, but can you dry in the oven?

In my oven, the minimum temperature is 50 grams, will it work / not?

Yesterday they treated it to a bag of mint, washed it, dried it, but now I don't know where it is ...

lappl1
Crochet, it is possible, only at the very minimum, with the door ajar and stirring constantly. Mint dries very quickly!
Crochet
Lyudochka, Thank you ...

Drying is probably better with convection?

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Mint dries very quickly!

And, even if you can not tell the approximate time?
lappl1
Crochet, not at all !
It is always better to dry with convection, including mint.
I did not dry the mint in the oven, but it will probably take about an hour ... With convection it can turn out faster. And it depends on the thickness of the layer. I dried it in a very thin layer in the dryer, so it dried up quickly.
Omela
Oh, and I will make mint like that, more simply to dry - there is a lot of space. By the way. I have an oven without convection and everything dries ok!
vvagre
Girls, I am reporting here on Ivan-tea, which I kept in a bag for a day to "sweat". The process started, scrolled the leaves, stood on fermentation for about eight hours, dried it. The cognac aroma disappeared.
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
When drying, there was a smell, about which you can say "cut and eat"! The next morning I brewed tea in a French press: I put one tablespoon with a slide of granules and poured 400 ml of water, insisted for 10 minutes.
Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
The taste is rich, tart. For my taste I had to dilute with water.
There was still fermented tea left, I wanted to dry it with a second run, but circumstances did not allow. I put it in a salad bowl (1L), covered it with cling film and put it in the refrigerator, it chills me very much! I think I will always have time to throw it out. Today there was an opportunity to do it (instead of Thursday!). Full delight! The aroma is bright with hints of cognac. So the wild yeast in the refrigerator continued to work, albeit slowly. It's cold in there, a very old refrigerator. Has dried, but not brewed yet. Fermentation means it took 45 hours ?!
Omela
I brewed fermented willow tea yesterday at 18:00. Everyone loved it !!! Fragrant, sweetish !!
shl. with vacuum storage bags I was criticized. I will put it in "disposable" containers like yours. and empty shelves for storage ..
lappl1
Quote: vvagre
Girls, I am reporting on Ivan-tea here, which I kept in a bag for a day to "sweat". The cognac aroma disappeared.The taste is rich, tart.
Valentine, gorgeous tea! What a darker! This means that we must try to do this also. Did you make tea without sweating? To compare, which is better? In general, today I am making two batches of Ivan-tea in the usual way, and tomorrow I will do it with "sweating". This means that you need to collect the leaves today. Can you please tell me where you kept the bag with leaves? Was it tied tight? And after the "sweating" did they dry or go straight to the meat grinder?
And the aroma will still appear. I don't know if it's cognac, but it will be.
Quote: vvagre
There was still fermented tea left, I wanted to dry it with a second run, but circumstances did not allow. I put it in a salad bowl (1L), covered it with cling film and put it in the refrigerator! Full delight! The aroma is bright with hints of cognac. So the wild yeast in the refrigerator continued to work, albeit slowly. Has dried, but not brewed yet. Fermentation means it took 45 hours ?!
Valentina, you are an inventor! No, there was no fermentation there, as it stops at temperatures below + 15 * C. And what was there, God knows ... Lactic acid bacteria are present there, they probably worked. In general, we urgently need a microbiologist to explain the inventions of our girls!
Thank you, Valya, for a wonderful experience! I think many will follow him!
lappl1
Quote: Omela
with vacuum storage bags I was criticized.
Omel, it's good that I asked the knowledgeable ... Otherwise, they would have done a lot of things.
Quote: Omela
I brewed fermented willow tea yesterday at 18:00. Everyone loved it !!!
Glad you liked your tea!
And today I swung for 36 hours. I have already forgotten what comes of it ...
lappl1
Quote: Omela
By the way. I have an oven without convection and everything dries ok!
I have the same one, without convection (mini-oven). It dries well too. With convection, like Kroshi's, things will go faster.
Quote: Omela
Oh, and I will make mint like that, just to dry - there is a lot of space
Do it, I liked it. The most important thing is that it takes up little space, and the taste is added than that of simply dried.
vvagre
Quote: lappl1
Where did you keep the bag of leaves? Was it tied tight? And after the "sweating" was it dried or straight into a meat grinder?
I collected the leaves through the dew, some were slightly damp, so I decided to hold them in a bag. I tied the T-shirt bag and put it in another one like it. Until the evening, they just lay in the shade, in the evening I looked - the smell could be stronger, so I put the package on the sofa under the blanket, and covered it with a pillow on top. In the morning I opened it, and the leaves are warm and the color has changed (not all) and the smell is light cognac. I chose the green ones and put them to dry, and twisted the rest, put them in salad bowls, covered them with bags and for fermentation: a sofa, a blanket, a pillow. Thursday night I dried a large salad bowl, and today a small one. Tomorrow I will taste today's drying, I think it will be delicious, judging by the aroma.
Before that, I made a sheet, it turned out not so bright. The grill at the meat grinder is shallow, I did not want to mess with it, it turns out in vain.
vvagre
Like mint, celery leaves dried, dried quickly, remained green and fragrant. I grind it into small glass jars, you open, and the smell

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