Vitalinka
Olga VB, Thank you!
Joy
Quote: Omela
I don’t take chicken .. as a last resort small chicken. If the pork is fat. it should work fine.
Breasts are small - a breast from one chicken on a bone with skin weighs about 600g. And pork - there is a shoulder blade with fat and boneless loin.
Omela
Well, then everything should be ok!
VGorn
Ksyusha, is ice required? Or can I just add cold water?
Olga VB
In principle, you can just ice water.
It's not difficult for you before you get the meat, wash, process, - the very first thing to do is to throw a container of water into the freezer.
It will become quite cold just at the time of demand.
Just remember that if the water freezes badly, so that you do not get a lump, that is, it is better to use a container for cubes or just large enough to get a thin layer that can be easily broken later.
Cold water is better absorbed into the meat when kneading and then, accordingly, does not leave the broth.
Omela
Quote: VGorn
is ice necessary? Or can I just add cold water?
Victoria, Olya wrote to you correctly. The water should be ice cold. In my freezer, the cubes are always in a special bag.
VGorn
Quote: Olga VB
Cold water is better absorbed into the meat when kneading and then, accordingly, does not leave the broth.
Oh, that's it! Thank you! I want to stir it up now ... I'll mess around then unsubscribe about the results.
Omela
Good luck!
Joy
And I am in flight with this ham - my husband stubbornly resisted that he did not want chicken in any form ... I was upset and put everything in the freezer. And the thought is itching, does not give rest Today I went for cottage cheese for cheese and on the way wandered into a meat shop ... and there ... what not ... I did not go to this store for 6 months for sure. During this time, the owner changed, and a real butcher sells meat there, who not only did not look at me like I was crazy when I said I wanted an apple, but also showed me this part. And then there was rabbit meat, duck breast fillets, lamb, not to mention chicken, turkey, pork and beef. As a result, I bought lamb
But I will make this ham anyway, later, so that prying eyes of the original products would not see
Omela
Quote: Joy
then prying eyes of the original products would not see
NadinAn
Help !!! Three hours tormented at 75 degrees. The juice is not transparent. I did not wait 12 hours and opened the ham maker 5 hours later. The meat seems damp .. Can I still cook it?
Omela
Hope, well, now you can bake it in the oven. Since the juice is drained, what's the point of cooking?
NadinAn
Just right in the ham in the oven? How many degrees?
NadinAn
In general, as I understand it, the juice should be transparent?
Omela
Quote: NadinAn
Just right in the ham in the oven? How many degrees?
Of course not. Get the ham, wrap it in foil and bake it at 200C in the oven.
YOU have identified by what criteria. what is raw meat ??

Quote: NadinAn
In general, as I understand it, the juice should be transparent?
Not necessary. To be honest, I never paid attention to the juice.
NadinAn
He looks neither boiled nor raw ... The taste is also not clear ... Thank you for responding !!!
NadinAn
I took it out, the bottom is ready-tasty, and the top is damp, like the water level was according to the instructions .. let's work !!!
Omela
You can simply chop it up and fry it. I did it, I liked it.
NadinAn
So she did, half that was boiled so she left, and half baked
Omela
VGorn
Well, here I have updated the purchase! Thank you, Ksyusha, for the recipe! I will experiment further
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Dairy ham in Tescoma ham

Dairy ham in Tescoma ham

VGorn
I am not a photographer, really. Yes, and inserted the photo with difficulty. This is my first experience. Don't blame me.This is corn-cheese bread and homemade ham.
NatalyMur
VGorn, and the photos are wonderful, but the ham is not even words - super! And even the first experience! Well done!
Omela
Victoria, cool turned out !!!! Doctor's sausage is resting !!!!
SchuMakher
Quote: Omela
I have a dietary option.
Quote: Omela
Add vodka to the mixture, stir. Instead of vodka, you can use cognac or whiskey, i.e. alcohol-containing products.

vodka-cognac diet .... hmm ... you must remember! Leenk, and Lenk, hear, and you still "don't drink, Man!" yes "don't drink!" And I won’t be okay, I’m on a diet
Elena Tim
Quote: ShuMakher
Leenk, and Lenk, hear, and you still "don't drink, Man!" yes "don't drink!" And I won’t be okay, I’m on a diet
There it is kaaak! And I think that you are always so beautiful, and here it is, akazza, what!
Tek, sir, I also want to be beautiful! Dictate - what to mix with?
Vodka with cognac or whiskey with beer? Or to kick it all together, so Schaub is sure to paint up!
SchuMakher
Come, we'll figure it out
Elena Tim
Apostle tomorrow I'll tell you for sure, we'll come!
SchuMakher
Shut up, damn it, it's a secret! shhhh, nikamu
Elena Tim
Quote: Elena Tim
Apostle tomorrow I'll tell you for sure, we'll come!
... to you in Madagascar!
SchuMakher
well yes, well yes ... we'll meet there
VGorn
Natalia, Ksyusha, thank you. I dare further! I put the next portion in the refrigerator.
* kolyma *
VGorn, well, how, how did you get that color? I did it twice, and both were gray, ugly ...
SchuMakher
nitrite salt, mobile?
VGorn
: swoon: neither nor nor! Never! Itself was surprised. But in the composition only what is in the recipe. I only added black pepper.
Pichenka
In Teskom's ham maker. The first time I did it with nitrite salt. For 500g of meat, 10g of salt ..
🔗
At the request of her husband, make the neck fatter.
250g pieces, 250g minced meat, nitrite salt, ice pieces by eye, shambhala, dry garlic, seasoning for minced meat, pepper slices.
Withstood 2 days at +4.
Cooked for 3 hours within 75 °. I didn't measure it inside, maybe with an adapter, for 500g, I didn't find a fool.
In general, I think that in these red lids you can drill a hole in the middle for a thermometer.
That is, unscrew this button in the middle and insert the thermometer.
SchuMakher
Quote: Pichenka
In general, I think that in these red lids you can drill a hole in the middle for a thermometer.
That is, unscrew this button in the middle and insert the thermometer.

why is it so difficult? Why does the attached thermometer displease you?
Pichenka
Quote: ShuMakher

why is it so difficult? Why does the attached thermometer displease you?
I'm sorry. Didn't have time to delete. I got into someone else's topic.
Why not satisfied with the outdoor? Well, it's interesting to track the process from the inside.
When at 1 kg, then I insert an electronic Teskomovsky into the holes.
And this time, the color turned out to be so bright. If it's because of the salt, it doesn't seem like much.
If, as recommended, 1.8-2% of raw meat. It turns out that you need 10g for 500g.
Just now I remembered that I did not weigh, but put 1 hour. Now I have weighed, there is 8gr of salt.
And everyone liked it. As it is closer to the traditional ham.
SchuMakher
Quote: Pichenka
Well, it's interesting to track the process from the inside.

well, of course ...
Elena Tim
Quote: ShuMakher
well, of course ...
It was she who answered as a surgeon!
Marina_K
Ksyusha, I would like to thank you and Lena Tim for teaching us how to cook homemade sausage.
My first experience
Dairy ham in Tescoma ham

The child - the main eater of sausages - said that everything, we no longer buy sausages in the store. Mom's tastier!
Girls, it's good that we have you.

Omela
Marina, I'm glad that you did it and liked it !!!

Quote: Marina_K
Mom's tastier!
aaaaa ... I envy white envy !!!!!!
Margo31
Girls!!! Give advice. I bought a ham, but there is no nitrite salt. How to cook without salt? Or is it better to wait
Omela
Yulia, of course, you can do it without salt. I just recently bought salt.
Irinaa
Quote: Omela

Yulia, of course, you can do it without salt. I just recently bought salt.
Hello. Please tell me, can you also stand it for 48 hours without nitrite salt? Will the meat turn sour? And how much to cook? And then I read that without n / salt, the ham does not have time to boil in 2 hours. Today I tucked a ham maker, for lack of n / salt put 0.5 tsp of nartii glutamate. I don't even know what effect it will have. This is my first time making ham at Tescom.
Omela
Quote: Irinaa
Will the meat turn sour?
Irinaa, in any case, the meat will not turn sour. You marinate the kebab.But YOU are right, without nitrite salt, you can cook right away.
Silyavka
I took the recipe to the bookmarks. Today we also bought Teskom's ham maker (we had to spend the bonuses in Eldorado, it cost us 1 ruble).
Silyavka
Omela, is it necessary to add vodka? I have no alcohol at home. Maybe you can do without it?




Good day . Yesterday I cooked ham according to this recipe, only without vodka, cooked for 3 hours at 80 *. Chilled in the refrigerator for 4 hours (the son could not stand it longer, he really wanted to try). It turned out very tasty, dense in consistency, easily cut with a knife.
Dairy ham in Tescoma ham
Dairy ham in Tescoma ham




Omela, thank you for the recipe, very tasty.
tascha
Quote: Omela
empirically, I came to the conclusion that you can use a lower temperature, namely 70-75C and cook for 2.5-3 hours.
Please tell me, why should a beginner decrease degrees and increase time?
Vlad_Ru
tascha, there are many factors, the main thing is that the temperature inside becomes 70 degrees.
And the cooking temperature is no more than 80, otherwise swelling.

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