Water heaters without hot water and electricity tariffs

[Marisha]

Put on a 3-tariff meter.

Marisha, too shy to ask, xthen eis that? I galloped off to study ...

Certainly expensive, 4-5 kW count two kettles. But I don't really need a cumulative bandura for 2 weeks, it's the most flowing one.

I'm going to put a cumulative one, for 30-50 liters. It is good to have such a heater in our suburbs, when the water can often turn off
Next week I will unsubscribe what happened

We sat here with boiling water for 1.5 days, there was an accident on the highway, all the equipment was driven away and the road was dug

Virgo, did you conjure sho just yesterday? For many years we have not turned off the water for the night, and yesterday I read your messages, my husband sat down to drink beer with a fish. I tell him, just count the water off for a long time. Then I go to brush my teeth before bed and WOW our water was turned off. And Morshinskaya and Termopot remained in the current house. The husband washed Morshinskaya's hands from the fish. They gave water towards the morning, it was heard how the pressure in the taps went. In short, enough to conjure there!

I'm going to put a cumulative one, for 30-50 liters. It is good to have such a heater in our suburbs, when the water can often turn off
Next week I will unsubscribe what happened

We sat here with boiling water for 1.5 days, there was an accident on the highway, all the equipment was driven away and the road was dug

I wanted a drive in the toilet, so that it would go directly to the kitchen and the bathroom, but I don't want to hang it on the wall. As long as there are no problems with water, I will use running water, it will not take long to buy and install.

At our dacha there is a cumulative one for, it seems, 50 liters (or even 80). Already the second, because the first rusted after a short time. In this regard, advice: choose from the whole variety not with a metal or enamelled tank, but only with stainless steel!

Virgo, did you conjure up just yesterday? For many years we have not turned off the water for the night, and yesterday I read your messages, my husband sat down to drink beer with a fish. I tell him, just count the water off for a long time. Then I go to brush my teeth before bed and WOW our water was turned off. And Morshinskaya and Termopot remained in the current house. The husband washed Morshinskaya's hands from the fish. They gave water already in the morning, you could hear how the pressure in the taps went. In short, enough to conjure there!

Nadyuha, we didn't seem to conjure

I also looked. I have an Italian electric welding machine that eats such power.
No really. Somehow dumb for the heater, although my wiring is good. I can't build a second cottage. Therefore, I also have ATMOR there, but with a storage capacity of 30 liters. Quite unpretentious. I took it because you can completely drain the water from it for the winter.

Since this thing costs us 8-10 days a year, it’s difficult to go broke, we don’t wash all day. I use the socket to which my washing machine is connected. For permanent use, they would buy a cumulative one, but for such a "fire" case, this option is the very thing. I used it, took it off, and put it away until next time.

[Larissa]

At our dacha there is a cumulative one for, it seems, 50 liters (or even 80). Already the second, because the first rusted after a short time. In this regard, advice: choose from the whole variety not with a metal or enamelled tank, but only with stainless steel!

Larissa, thanks for the timely advice!

I have 50 liters of Termex in my apartment since 2005 and has not yet rusted. Ariston has been in the house for 3 years for 100 liters of daily use.

Nadyuha, we didn't seem to conjure

And who started the topic about turning off the water. My status is supposed to conjure.

Specifically, we have hellish tariffs for hot water, now even when it is given, we do not use it, because it comes out of the storage tank much cheaper.
A tank of 80 liters, 1.5 kW, hangs in the closet and does not bother anyone. I put it on a timer, that is, it heats strictly according to the clock, it comes out quite inexpensively on electricity. We take baths like white people - all in a bunch

That is, if there is rarely water, then flowing is suitable, and if there is always no water, then accumulative is certainly more profitable.

For permanent use, they would buy a cumulative one, but for such a "fire" case, this option is the very thing. I used it, took it off, and put it away until next time.

My love did not work out with the flowing ones, now I am afraid of them - and I even tried a few of them, including Atmor. By the way, I have a new one for several years now, and I will not dare to put

[Larissa]

Larissa, thanks for the timely advice!

Tanechka, please, but perhaps this advice is not so relevant for you: after all, our country water from a shallow well is far from ideal.

[Admin]

Admin, what's wrong with him? We also have a second in 10 years, but the first was already inherited by the ancients. So far, everything is without problems with the second, for three years we have it.

The current from them can shake - if there is no grounding or bad. Plugs can be knocked out too.

[Tanechka]

Tanechka, please, but perhaps this advice is not so relevant for you: after all, our country water from a shallow well is far from ideal.

Larissa, on Friday I go to work with the heater, I go to the special. store these devices, there I will consult and they will also do this. I've already seen these people at work.
And in the bathroom I already have a wiring for water and a socket for the drive, I did it during the renovation of the apartment, I guessed

Tips, it's always on time!

Specifically, we have hellish tariffs for hot water, now even when it is given, we do not use it,

Julia! How did you refuse? did you write an application to the heat commune? Or is it just that you have a counter and it can be seen from it that you are not using?
I have a boiler and also, it seems to me that it is cheaper from it.

I'm talking about a flowing one - I was one of the first - it exploded over my head when I was taking a shower, I still twitch, unforgettable ochucheniya, if I was pregnant, I would give birth at that moment. twins

My love did not work out with the flowing ones, now I am afraid of them - and I even tried a few of them, including Atmor. By the way, I've had a brand new one for several years now, and I will not dare to put

, I and Atmor are apparently equally charged - it bites, albeit in a grounded outlet.

The current from them can shake - if there is no grounding or bad. Plugs can be knocked out too.

When I turn on Atmor, I do not turn on other devices. And I use the socket with grounding. Never been to shake.

[Admin]

Admin, what's wrong with him? We also have a second in 10 years, but the first was already inherited by the ancients. So far, all without problems with the second, for three years we have it.

I don't like the temperature regulator, how they get very hot, and so on ... there was a case burned out
And when the power is high, and they burn when they are on ... you need to have strong nerves

The current from them can shake - if there is no grounding or bad. Plugs can be knocked out too.

We have a machine gun for 25, which does not knock out. Flowing is really only good, as Julia said, when water outages are of a temporary, episodic nature.

Well, 25A is 5.5 kW, and if someone turns on the teapot and something else, then the machine will knock out. And so it is clear to wash the current. And can you wash your hands in the kitchen with a cold type, or do you walk around the apartment with a nozzle? I had a storage room in my apartment - the water from all the taps was hot, and not just to wash, and rinse my hands in cold for 2 weeks.

Julia! How did you refuse? did you write an application to the heat commune? Or is it just that you have a counter and it can be seen from it that you are not using?
I have a boiler and also, it seems to me that it is cheaper from it.

Yes, the counter is standing and you can see it.
But there is one small g-swarm - once every 5 years they need to be removed and carried for inspection somewhere there, namely hot water, even if you do not use it.
This year I have such a test year. Saves from this action - sealing the meter, I will order a sealant from the heating service.

And in the bathroom I already have a wiring for water and a socket for the drive, I did it during the renovation of the apartment, I guessed

We, too, at the entrance to a new apartment 8 years ago in the dressing room under the ceiling immediately installed this drive

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But they never used it, because the house has its own boiler, and the water has never been turned off over the years!

Well, 25A is 5.5 kW and if someone turns on the teapot and something else, then the machine will knock it out. And so it is clear to wash the current. And can you wash your hands in the kitchen with a cold type, or do you walk around the apartment with a nozzle? I had a storage room in my apartment - the water from all the taps was hot, and not just to wash, and rinse my hands in cold for 2 weeks.

The light, if you turn on the kettle, will knock it out. In the kitchen PMM stands, hot water only shower and wash your head. Two weeks is fine. If the shutdowns were for longer, then the drive would be installed. I always have a locksmith, and my husband is handy, but I don’t want a drive yet.

This year I have such a test year. Saves from this action - sealing the meter, I will order a sealant from the heating service.

from the cold all the same to drag, although less cost per meter (we have once every 4 years). I agree, it is necessary to seal. tell me how it went. I will think too.

At our dacha there is a storage one for, it seems, 50 liters (or even 80). Already the second, because the first rusted after a short time. In this regard, advice: choose from the whole variety not with a metal or enamelled tank, but only with stainless steel!

The neighbors had one in the apartment. After 2 years of operation, rusted.
While they were at work, hot water poured out of the hole on all the lower floors.

The neighbors had one in the apartment. After 2 years of operation, rusted.
While they were at work, hot water poured out of the hole on all the lower floors.

That's it - it means that clean tap water can rust through and through. And I sinned on our sour, ferrous water in the well. But now, everything is in order with the stainless steel!

We, too, at the entrance to a new apartment 8 years ago in the dressing room under the ceiling immediately installed this drive

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But they never used it, because the house has its own boiler, and the water has never been turned off over the years!

Nicely indicative picture!

Yes, the counter is standing and you can see it.
But there is one small g-swarm - once every 5 years they need to be removed and carried for inspection somewhere there, namely hot water, even if you do not use it.
This year I have such a test year. Saves from this action - sealing the meter, I will order a sealant from the heating service.

Julia, are you sure of the timing of the verification? It's just that we have different terms - for GW 4 years, HV - 6 years.
And it is still not clear how the sealing of the meter saves from verification? Maybe you meant checking at home without removing the meters?

Julia, are you sure of the timing of the verification? It's just that we have different terms - for GW 4 years, HV - 6 years.

we have for only 4 years it seems (or 3 recently reinstalled. Lyubafish probably knows for sure, she works in the housing office)

Yes, the counter is standing and you can see it.
But there is one small g-swarm - once every 5 years they need to be removed and carried for inspection somewhere there, namely hot water, even if you do not use it.
This year I have such a test year. Saves from this action - sealing the meter, I will order a sealant from the heating service.

Julia, we have already filmed. No sealers are needed, you remove and put the plugs yourself, carry them in practice.And then, after verification, the water utility controller accepts the delivered meter, writes down new "initial" indicators and that's it. For time without a meter, they count as water without a meter at a rate of 9 cu / person / month.

[Shine]

Julia, we have already filmed. No sealers are needed, you remove and put the plugs yourself, carry them in practice. And then, after verification, the water utility controller accepts the delivered meter, writes down new "initial" indicators and that's it. For time without a meter, they count as water without a meter at a rate of 9 cu / person / month.

Shine, I'm a little about something else.

If I absolutely I don't use hot water from heating services - then I don't need all this red tape with the regular removal of the meter and the invitation of controllers. Why do I have to bother with all this, take time off from work, go somewhere, if I don't need their water at all.

Therefore, the meter is sealed - so as never to remove anything again, not to carry it anywhere, and forever close the issue of paying for hot water and reporting to the heating network about the meter's performance.

Parents sealed up their hot counter last year and do not know grief.
We do not need to remove the cold water meter for inspection.

If I absolutely I don't use hot water from heating services - then I don't need all this red tape with the regular removal of the meter and the invitation of controllers. Why do I have to bother with all this, take time off from work, go somewhere, if I don't need their water at all.

apart from everything else, you will and must go out of your way to check the meter, although there is not much there, but usually the gasket on hot meters becomes unusable, and they will count its repair for you. Therefore, we approve, the correct decision is to say goodbye to him officially.

Julia, we have already filmed. No sealers are needed, you remove and put the plugs yourself, carry them in practice.

before you remove the meters yourself, you need to call the sealers - they give permission for this case - a piece of paper, where they record the meter readings at the time of removal. They check for seals, etc. And without this piece of paper, a new one (after verification) will not be sealed - a kind of procedure. We personally do so.

before you remove the meters yourself, you need to call the sealers - they give permission for this case - a piece of paper, where they record the meter readings at the time of removal. They check for seals, etc. And without this piece of paper, a new one (after verification) will not be sealed - a kind of procedure. We personally do so.

We have it too.

Julia, what is your tariff for mountains. water and electricity?

, I and Atmor are apparently equally charged - it bites, albeit in a grounded outlet.

Try to insert the heater plug into the socket by turning it 180. So that the current-carrying wires swap places when connecting. As a temporary measure, it sometimes helps. And on the right one - it would be necessary to understand and eliminate.

Julia, what is your tariff for mountains. water and electricity?

Electricity 21 UAH with kopecks per 100 kW, which is over 250 kW - 28 UAH
Hot water if without a meter - then somewhere around 43 UAH per person
And I won't say for sure with the meter, we have not paid for a long time, something about 15 UAH per cubic liter.

We have twice as much for heating for a one-room sum as for my colleague for a three-room one!
They have it somehow made differently, so it comes out much cheaper.

In any case, with or without a meter - specifically for us - it is more profitable and calmer to heat water with a tank.

I wanted to calculate for myself. Here (Kharkov), up to 150-28, 150-800 -36.48. And the water is the same. I can't get any cheaper, the water flows like a river. It seems to me that when I use a / n, the amount for email. your energy is sky-high.

Here (Kharkov), up to 150-28, 150-800 -36.48.

Tan, it does not depend on the city (in my opinion), but on whether the house is gasified or equipped with electric stoves. You have gas, judging by the tariff.

Electricity 21 UAH with kopecks per 100 kW, which is over 250 kW - 28 UAH
Hot water if without a meter - then somewhere around 43 UAH per person
And I won't say for sure with the meter, we have not paid for a long time, something about 15 UAH per cubic liter.

We have twice as much for heating for a one-room sum as for my colleague for a three-room one!
They have it somehow made differently, so it comes out much cheaper.

In any case, with or without a meter - specifically for us - it is more profitable and calmer to heat water with a tank.

Julia, that shoto you have old tariffs ... I have electric stoves, so I pay up to 250 kW at 0.24 ... kopecks, from 250 to 800 kW at 0.36 ... kopecks, and over 800 kW by ... terrible tariff there!

Tan, it does not depend on the city (in my opinion), but on whether the house is gasified or equipped with electric stoves. You have gas, judging by the tariff.

Yeah, gas. For some reason, I thought that in different regions it is different. Here is water and heating, as if everyone has a different way!

So girls and here about tariffs in more detail !!!! Is it we are being told that we have the cheapest electricity? I have gas and in Moscow I pay about 3.20 rubles = 80 kopecks of yours, and at the dacha 3.00 rubles = about 70 kopecks.

I have a 50 liter Termex for 6 years, the flight is normal, it has not rusted anywhere, I am very pleased with it.

Julia, that shoto you have old tariffs ... I have electric stoves, so I pay up to 250 kW at 0.24 ... kopecks, from 250 to 800 kW at 0.36 ... kopecks, and over 800 kW by ... terrible tariff there!

Wow, I'm behind the times, I wrote prices for October-November last year
Now my son is paying attention, I no longer delve into it too much.

[Svetta]

Julia, that shoto you have old tariffs ... I have electric stoves, so I pay up to 250 kW at 0.24 ... kopecks, from 250 to 800 kW at 0.36 ... kopecks, and over 800 kW by ... terrible tariff there!

Wow, I'm behind the times, I wrote prices for October-November last year
Now my son is paying attention, I no longer delve into it too much.

I decided to delve into

Svetta, and where are these tariffs 24 kopecks and 36 kopecks?

I still found a document on which I wrote prices!
And they have not changed recently, at least in June 2013 the oblenergo refers to it:
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For electric stoves - prices with VAT:

1.3. The population, who live in zhitlovy booths (including in zhitlovy booths of the hotel type and gurtozhitkah), possessed by the established order of kitchen electric plates (including in the silskiy mіstsevostі):

- for a rent, living up to 250 kW • a year of electricity per month - UAH 21.54
- for a rent, living up to 250 kW • a year up to 800 kW • a year of electricity per month - 28.02 UAH
- for a rent, living up to 800 kW • year of electricity per month - 95.76 UAH

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Prices for gasified houses:

- for a rent, living up to 150 kW • year of electricity per month - 28,02
- for a rent, living up to 150 kW • a year up to 800 kW • a year of electricity per month - 36,48
- for a rent, living up to 800 kW • a year of electricity per month - 95,76

[Svetta]

I decided to delve into

Svetta, and where are these tariffs 24 kopecks and 36 kopecks?

I still found a document on which I wrote prices!
And they have not changed recently, at least in June 2013 the oblenergo refers to it:
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Julia, I went and looked at our bills - yes, 21 and 28 kopecks. I thought you had gas in your house, the tariff is different there.
This shoto is in my head ... I am undergoing treatment, I go to the day hospital ...

We do not have gas, and the tariff for electricity is 1rub 62kop. Can't I talk about that? ......

So girls and here about tariffs in more detail !!!! Is it we are being told that we have the cheapest electricity? I have gas and in Moscow I pay about 3.20 rubles = 80 kopecks of yours, and at the dacha 3.00 rubles = about 70 kopecks.

We do not have gas, and the tariff for electricity is 1rub 62kop. Can't I talk about that? ......

Irina, I wrote tariffs in Moscow and Tula, and compared them with Ukrainian ones. , it turns out that you have in the Kemerovo region. electricity is more expensive than in Ukraine, so I'm indignant ..

I have a daughter-in-law from Ukraine, when she goes there to visit my mother and then compares prices for a long time. For household appliances, telephones, cars, we finally have sky-high prices.