Water heaters without hot water and electricity tariffs

Irina, I wrote tariffs in Moscow and Tula, and compared them with Ukrainian ones. , it turns out that you have in the Kemerovo region. electricity is more expensive than in Ukraine, so I'm indignant ..

Girls, julifera and I have tariffs for houses with electric stoves, so the tariff is cheaper.
And for ordinary users the tariff is up to 150 kW = 28 kopecks, over 150 kW = 36 kopecks, over 800 kW = 96 kopecks.

Girls, julifera and I have tariffs for houses with electric stoves, so the tariff is cheaper.
And for ordinary users the tariff is up to 150 kW = 28 kopecks, over 150 kW = 36 kopecks, over 800 kW = 96 kopecks.

Sveta if you multiply your kopecks by 4, then the cost per kilowatt is about 1.20 rubles and 1.60 rubles, it is still 2 times cheaper than in Tula and Moscow. In the Tula region. I live only in the summer - I have a dacha there. Well, in Moscow, all class A equipment, and LED bulbs.

With an electric stove and a 3-tariff meter in Moscow:
peak - from 7-00 to 10-00 o'clock, from 17-00 to 21-00 o'clock --- 2.82 r
half-peak - from 10-00 to 17-00 hours, from 21-00 to 23-00 hours 2.27 r
night - from 23-00 to 7-00 hours 0.71 r

Leska, even with a 3-phase meter, we overpay

Leska, even with a 3-phase meter, we overpay

Register a disabled participant in the Battle of Kulikovo - it will be minus 50%!

So I already have a discount of 30 percent, we have many children, why do I grumble a lot? no more ...

And in the suburbs, the tariff with electric stoves is 2.88 day -0.97 a two-tariff night, if three tariff 2.44-3.56 peak -0.97 night, we generally have horror

And in the suburbs, the tariff with electric stoves is 2.88 day -0.97 a two-tariff night, if three tariff 2.44-3.56 peak -0.97 night, we generally have horror

"She may be ugly, but she is our homeland." Only "seditious" thoughts always come into my head: "What for?"

Girls! So after all, our earnings and pensions are not comparable to those in Moscow

Girls! So after all, our earnings and pensions are not comparable to those in Moscow

Yes, it seems to me that it comes out. They earn more and spend more. Everything is more expensive ...

Light if you multiply your penny by 4, then you get the cost of a kilowatt ...

Your current office. the exchange rate of the ruble to the hryvnia is 2.5-2.6, not 4.

[Tatyana]

Your current office. the exchange rate of the ruble to the hryvnia is 2.5-2.6, not 4.

Tatyana, I don't remember how they think, but this is exactly the ratio that is obtained - 4.

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, I don't remember how they think, but this is exactly the ratio that is obtained - 4.

Oh, yes. If the rubles are divided by 4, then we get hryvnia. Exactly!

Leska, even with a 3-phase meter, we overpay

The policy is such now that they will drive daily tariffs up and 2, 3 tariff meters will not save, but will go to the minus (in the regions so). Nobody really bakes or fries anything at night, except that the washing machine can be turned on for the night cycle and that's it. And all this was done so that the consumer could endure the load on the network at night. Caring for networks, not consumers. The acquaintances that work in this area generally have not changed one-rate meters for themselves and are not going to. We used to have a night zone from 22:00 to 8:00 in the morning and + weekends, but now from 23:00 to 7:00 and the benefits for the weekend have been canceled. And who does what especially at night, when you have to go to work in the morning? Not only was it nearly 2,000 for a 2-tariff meter, but now it needs to be reprogrammed for 600 rubles (otherwise it will be considered one-rate) according to the new rules. Saving...

Yes, it seems to me that it comes out.They earn more and spend more. Everything is more expensive ...

So this is what we are talking about, that we have a cheaper rate, but in terms of income ...

And they gave us hot water

And they gave us hot water

very happy for you !! we would not turn off the cold one. There hasn't been a hot one in the city for over 16 years. only boilers and gas columns.

I was just thinking about a little one, but as I think about how much I have to pay for the light, I changed my mind

Today I learned that on July 22 our rulers signed a decree and now a limit on consumption according to social norms will be introduced. And they were generous for 50 kWh per month per person, and with electric stoves for as much as 90 kWh per person. We shout the virgins.

Today I learned that on July 22 our rulers signed a decree and now a limit on consumption according to social norms will be introduced. And they were generous for 50 kWh per month per person, and with electric stoves for as much as 90 kWh per person. We shout the virgins.

And we consider 100 kW-hour for an apartment at the same price (this seems to be the norm), and everything over 100 kW is one and a half times more expensive. And it doesn't matter how many people live in this apartment.

["pilot project"]

Today I learned that on July 22 our rulers signed a decree and now a limit on consumption according to social norms will be introduced. And by 50 kWh per month they were generous per person, and with electric stoves by as much as 90 kWh per person. We shout the virgins.

Light, yesterday it seemed on the news that they said that it was only "pilot project", which was launched only in 7 regions .. as an example, they cited Novgorod, where they have already started testing "this system" ... it seems that now the rate has been increased from 50 to 70 kW ..

And we consider 100 kW-hour for an apartment at the same price (this seems to be the norm), and everything over 100 kW is one and a half times more expensive. And it doesn't matter how many people live in this apartment.

Ukraine, by the way, was used as an example ... they say they have been counting on electricity for a long time. but in our country it is the number of people that will be linked ...
Yesterday I liked the phrase ... like .. "Nothing bad will happen to the population if the washing machine is started less often" ... ... but who will think about MV-ki?

The coolest thing is that we have been living according to these social norms for three years. Are we ahead of the rest of the world?

Are we ahead of the rest of the world?

no .. that's what they tested on you ... and now the regions are "connected" to the same system ...

Cho would be worthwhile testing on us. Well, there's a higher salary or something like that.

["pilot project"]

Light, yesterday it seemed on the news that they said that it was only "pilot project", which was launched only in 7 regions .. as an example, they cited Novgorod, where they have already started testing "this system" ... it seems that now the rate has been increased from 50 to 70 kW ..

listen .. what will it look like? that is, if we now have 1 kWh day 3-17 night 1-77 then how to calculate that?

No, they are already being introduced, since July 1, 2014 everywhere. So in a year we will live according to the norms. And you have Marin gas, and if not - spend 20-30 thousand, in contrast to our prices - to conduct 500 thousand gas. I have everything on electricity, which was spent at our expense, 1 lam was given for it, and now they will also lead us to the norms. Our rush.

why do they have 20 thousand? we have for example 300 thousand.

I have everything on electricity, which was spent at our expense, 1 lam was given for it, and now they will also lead us to the norms. Our rush.

Light, this is all a specialist .. the fact is that now EVERYONE (private houses) are trying to transfer to electricity - pay cheaper in winter, well, that's why they will do it with a "specialist" .. save on gas - pay for electricity ...

why do they have 20 thousand? we have for example 300 thousand.

Because they are the Vladimir region, and we are the Moscow region, you are the Leningrad region, so they are trying to tear off more skins from us at times.

Girls, we have privileges for the first 75 kW per month. Then the next 75 kW the price is a bit higher, and everything over these 75 + 75 = 150 kW is already a price without any discounts, etc. We have been living like that for a long time. All the same, we will not give up multi-pressure cookers, because there is a reason to drink kefir at night

Girls, we have privileges for the first 75 kW per month. Then the next 75 kW the price is a bit higher, and everything over these 75 + 75 = 150 kW is already a price without any discounts, etc. We have been living like that for a long time. All the same, we will not give up multi-pressure cookers, because there is a reason to drink kefir at night

Something I did not understand how you have We have 150 kW at a price of 0.2802 UAH, all that is over 0.3648 UAH, after 800 kW I don't even know the price. Since more than 250 kW with all our equipment, we do not wind up

Something I didn’t understand about you

now in most of Russia the price of electricity is the same - no matter how much wrapped ... Only some still have a division into night and day tariffs ... to burn electricity at night is cheaper ..

now in most of Russia the price of electricity is the same - no matter how much wrapped ... Only some still have a division into night and day tariffs ... to burn electricity at night is cheaper ..

Anyuta, but we succeed, somehow in different ways

We have 150 kW at a price of 0.2802 UAH, all that is over 0.3648 UAH, after 800 kW I don't even know the price.

And so with us.

The price is different by region, there is simply a limit in several regions, and somehow they don't talk about it. And now they will put everyone on the limit - in apartments the people will not practically touch them. But the private sector is without gas - and we have more than half of the country without gas, so those will again be cut specifically.

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Girls, we have privileges for the first 75 kW per month. Then the next 75 kW the price is a bit higher, and everything over these 75 + 75 = 150 kW is already a price without any discounts, etc. We have been living like that for a long time.

Something I did not understand how you have We have 150 kW at a price of 0.2802 UAH, all that is over 0.3648 UAH, after 800 kW I don't even know the price. Since more than 250 kW with all our equipment, we do not wind up

She meant if the family has communal benefits. My mom's. Current, since she has an electric stove with 100 kW, benefits, then the rest up to 150 kW at the usual price, and the rest from above at different tariffs.
Here are the tariffs for our energy now.
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Nadya, I'm right. I have a privilege and if I light 75 kW, then the tariff is considered according to the privilege, the remainder of 75 kW (to reach 150) is 28 kopecks, and then we "walk" This month - 450 kW (it turned out that 300 is already over for 0.3648 UAH).

Well, now I have concrete mixers, drills, grinders in the yard, and MV, SV, AG, etc. - in the kitchen We do not deny ourselves anything, so to speak

Nadya, I'm right. I have a privilege and if I light 75 kW, then the tariff is considered according to the privilege, the remainder of 75 kW (to reach 150) is 28 kopecks, and then we "walk" This month - 450 kW (it turned out that 300 is already over UAH 0.3648).

Well, I now have concrete mixers, drills, grinders in the yard, and MV, SV, AG and others - in the kitchen We do not deny ourselves anything, so to speak

Somehow you economically. My mother only has a stove, a refrigerator, a micra, a boiler, a cartoon and a TV set that does not turn off, so sometimes she reaches 600. Tired of swearing !!!

Tanya, this is a boiler. If you do not turn it off for a long time: They, like bad ones, pull a lot.

And about a little too much - my norm is 350 kW almost always. And I do not even think about what to turn off or where to save. This month we played a little more, we aim the marafet

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She meant if the family has communal benefits. My mom's. Current, since she has an electric stove with 100 kW, benefits, then the rest up to 150 kW at the usual price, and the rest from above at other tariffs.
Here are the tariffs for our energy now.
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Oh, it’s clear with benefits, otherwise I’m on an armored train

[A]

There are still a lot of "air conditioners" consumed .. people are worried that in the heat now they will have to "save" on themselves ....

it is possible that the rate of 50 kW per person was relevant 20-30 years ago .. but now ... with tAby the number of electrical appliances - this is simply an unrealistically small value !!!! ... but this is just my IMHO!

Anyut, I have gas at home, but the oven is electric, class A consumption, washing. the car and the refrigerator are all A, and there are no LED bulbs, even in the aquarium.For five, about 300 kW comes out, and we save water, we installed taps as in hospitals, honestly I don’t know what they are called, they do not have valves but a lever, it is also very economical, so hot (for 5 people) comes out about 4 cubes, and cold about 7 cubes, because I drive everyone with ... a rag so that no water is poured.

I do not have an air conditioner, but with a water heater, the current heats up at night, in the summer 360 kW-hour for two strictly (160 kW-h during the day and 200 kW-h at night), without kondeev and other things. The way out is to use hot water less often, or I don't know what. The PMM and the washing machine also work only at night - wash the dishes every other day. PPC, we will go around dirty, eat from disposable dishes. But thrifty.

Anyut, I have gas at home, but the oven is electric, class A consumption, washing. the car and the refrigerator are all A, and there are no LED bulbs, even in the aquarium. For five, about 300 kW comes out, and we save water, we installed taps as in hospitals, honestly I don’t know what they are called, they do not have valves but a lever, it is also very economical, so hot (for 5 people) comes out about 4 cubes, and cold about 7 cubes, because I drive everyone with ... a rag so that no water is poured.

Well, I have an average of 190-210 kW per hour .. I wash every day, dishes in the PMM actually also every day ... in the courtyard of a 200 W photolamp ... The only thing I "wind up" the energy with is steam generators and a vacuum cleaner , and of course, with a teapot .. For a long time already I stopped pouring water into the teapot "to the fullest" ... now I pour only 2 cups + a little more, that is, no more than 0.7 liters according to the teapot's mark .. ...

... PPC, we will go around dirty, eat from disposable dishes. But thrifty.

this was my first thought after watching the report ...

[For electric stoves:]

And we consider 100 kW-hour for an apartment at the same price (this seems to be the norm), and everything over 100 kW is one and a half times more expensive. And it doesn't matter how many people live in this apartment.

Girls, we have privileges for the first 75 kW per month. Then the next 75 kW the price is a bit higher, and everything over these 75 + 75 = 150 kW is already a price without any discounts, etc. We have been living like that for a long time. All the same, we will not give up multi-pressure cookers, because there is a reason to drink kefir at night

By law, the prices are the same for the whole of Ukraine, and there seems to be no change yet:
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Not a word about preferential prices

Prices with VAT per 1 kW ∙ hour

For electric stoves:

1.3. The population, who live in zhitlovy booths (including in the zhitlovy booths of the hotel type and gurtozhitkah), possessed by the established order of kitchen electric plates (including in the silskiy mіstsevostі):

- for a rent, living up to 250 kW • year of electricity per month - 21.54 kopecks
- for a rent, living up to 250 kW • a year up to 800 kW • a year of electricity per month - 28.02 kopecks
- for a rent, living up to 800 kW • a year of electricity per month - 95.76 kopecks

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Prices for gasified houses:

- for a rent, living up to 150 kW • a year of electricity per month - 28.02 kopecks
- for a rent, living up to 150 kW • a year up to 800 kW • a year of electricity per month - 36.48 kopecks
- for a rent, living up to 800 kW • a year of electricity per month - 95.76 kopecks

So, in order to save money on payment for electricity, you urgently need to register someone. But still in the social. the norm will also include general household needs. For these kilowatts for lighting staircases and entrances, etc., you will have to pay at an increased rate. Taking into account the energy intensity of the same elevators - at a very high rate.

[IRR]

I finally got my water meter checked!
I report as requested IRR

If earlier (a year ago) it was possible to agree for a "separate" fee (100 UAH) to make all the pieces of paper without removing the counter, now it is obligatory to shoot and refer for verification! For both hot water and cold water. And now it is for even more money - pay for unsealing / reconciliation, pay for removing the meter, pay for the installation back ... and separately for each meter ... go and take it for a check, then go and take it ...

We managed with cold water in a week for 140 UAH, that is, for this money I persuaded the inspector to do all the procedures myself, and I did not go anywhere and did not sit in lines.

With hot water - because:

- heating water with a tank costs me much cheaper than the bill issued by the heating network (even according to the meter);
- and I didn't want to pay to check the hot meter,

then I ordered a sealing valve hot water over the counter and now I do NOT need to: regularly take readings over the phone (that I do not use their hot water), neither pass checks, nor pay extra money.
They did this for me for free, as if as a bonus, complete with cold water, they put a large plastic seal with a number issued by the heating network, the number of the seal was written in the documents (unlike the seal on the cold water meter - there is a simple small plastic without a number)

I am very glad that we were dying from this hot water, it is disgusting - it clings to my hands, the skin on my face deteriorates, the hair becomes terrible and oily for all my household in a day.
Cold water heated in a tank is completely different!
Maybe it's just that we have such a nasty hot, I don't know

By law, the prices are the same for the whole of Ukraine, and there seems to be no change yet:
🔗

Not a word about preferential prices

Here's how to calculate the price if there is a benefit 🔗
but if there is a benefit for utility bills, then why should the light be considered 100%. Understandably, at some limited consumption rates. So they give only 75 kW for benefits. There are many articles on this topic in you. I deal with benefits and payments.

Not only was it nearly 2,000 for a 2-tariff meter, but now it needs to be reprogrammed for 600 rubles (otherwise it will be considered one-rate) according to the new rules. Saving...

Did you buy yourself? We got new meters installed for free. despite the fact that the former (also two-tariff) did not have time to grow old, the house is 11 years old. At the same time, only "one tariff" was spinning at half of the entrance, they did not switch to day-night. And she called and wrote ... then they came (probably did not see the masters), reprogrammed, it worked. And we can work by itself. They didn't take money for anything.