chistotel
Girls! Tell me, honestly, you need to buy such a typewriter or there is more in the corner. I have a manual rolling noodle cutter, somehow it did not take root, I make it by hand, but I love my noodles. On March 29, we will have two electric machines in our store for making pasta, horns, spaghetti:
1) Fairy KM-180
2) VITALEX VL-5370
So I am faced with a choice, call-buy or is it not worth it?
And who used these models, what is positive, and what is negative about them. If you take, which one?
Thanks to everyone who responds.
dili1979
Hello! I read, read and the question arose: how do your bread makers cope with kneading any dough? as? Mine only kneads dough for bread, and then a little steeper - I'm already afraid that it will start to creak again Bork 500(I help with my hands). Yeast is still kneading, because it is not tight, but I think on dumplings for the second, third time it will creak. I already handed it over for repair, it creaked and the bucket was replaced. Can only this brand of bread maker have such nonsense ??

Another question about the noodle cutter: I want Marcato Atlas-150, but the price !!! 5900-6300 rub !! And IMPERIA TITANIA IPASTA from 4000 rubles. What do you advise?? Maybe there are Russian-made very decent cheaper ones, or is it just a dream?
Igrig
Quote: dili1979

Another question about the noodle cutter: I want Marcato Atlas-150, but the price !!! 5900-6300 rub !! And IMPERIA TITANIA IPASTA from 4000 rubles. What do you advise?? Maybe there are Russian-made very decent cheaper ones, or is it just a dream?
I will also bring doubts to your thoughts. It is necessary to take a dough rolling machine immediately with an electric motor, or buy it in addition. I understand that it is even more expensive, but you and I are not multi-armed Shivas, so that we can easily fill the dough into the rollers with one hand and at the same time pick it up after the rollers. After all, you have to turn the handle with the other hand ...
I understand that this greatly increases the cost of the purchase, but from my own experience I was convinced that it is worth the cost. Maybe many will begin to convince that you can do everything with one hand, but you just have to try and compare: heaven and earth!
You know i now I enjoy from use.
Olka D
Since the new year I have the Empire of Titania, I rarely cook because of the lack of free time, but anyway, when I have the opportunity, I get it and enjoy the "mechanics". Basically I use it as a dough rolling machine, the dough is kneaded by a bread machine, one portion (450 grams of flour) of dough is enough for us. I am very happy with my noodle cutter, excellent value for money
Igrig
Quote: Olka D

Since the new year I have the Empire of Titania, I rarely cook because of the lack of free time, but anyway, when I have the opportunity, I get it and enjoy the "mechanics". Basically I use it as a dough rolling machine, the dough is kneaded by a bread machine, one portion (450 grams of flour) of dough is enough for us. I am very happy with my noodle cutter, excellent value for money
I also have Titania, but I also bought a motor - so I have experience in manual and electric rolling, I can compare. For manual rolling, firstly, the machine must be attached somewhere, screwed to the countertop, and in modern kitchens this is problematic, you had to open the door, which cannot be closed until the end of the work.
Secondly, I don't really understand how to guide the incoming dough with one hand and pick up the outgoing dough! And this is an additional nerve cost - to call your wife for help when she is doing another "her most important thing in life" business! And this must be done! Found an exact comparison - it's like zipping with one hand!
Probably possible, but a dubious pleasure for me!
And with an electric drive, he put the machine on the table, without screwing it on anywhere, turned it on and with both hands drive the layers of dough between the rollers to the desired thickness! Very comfortably.
Only in terms of time, the gain is at least 2 times obtained.
It's hard to convince with words - you have to try!
Olka D
Quote: Igrig
the machine needs to be attached somewhere, screwed to the tabletop
Here I completely agree with you, in my kitchen there is only a dining table, which still needs to be expanded in order to install the machine, therefore, if there is nowhere to fix the noodle cutter, it is better to buy with a motor
dili1979
Thank you Olka D and Igrig! I sit and think where to screw I saw it somewhere, a man used an electric screwdriver instead of a motor, I wonder if a dough rolling machine is suitable for this? ))))


Added Monday 28 Mar 2016 00:37

Quote: Igrig
And this is an additional nerve cost - to call your wife for help when she is doing another "her most important thing in life" business!
Happens!! You can't drag mine into the kitchen, just eat! So I need a dough sheeter so as not to twist right away, that is, not to bring to mind! To make it all well done.
Svetta
Igrig, well, I don’t know, I have been using such a machine for 2 years without a motor. I do not feel any inconvenience with the direction of the dough into the rolls, and at the bottom I have a foam plastic tray and the dough folds beautifully into it. I do not roll meter strips, a maximum of 30-40 cm, this length is quite enough for cutting noodles. Well, honestly, I absolutely calmly twist the handle and hold the dough, I don't call anyone for help. And it takes me about half an hour to knead the dough, roll out and cut the dough into 200 g of flour.
Maikla
svetta, agree with you. I have had a machine for 7 years already, I have never had problems with rolling and with the number of hands)

Knor
Until I had the motor, I also liked everything. Now I realized that the motor is sooooo much easier. And the handle can always be put and twisted for pleasure.
Svetta
Chubby, I think that the feasibility of the motor depends on the frequency of use of the pasta machine and financial capabilities. I use the machine 1-2 times a month only for noodles, so somehow I don't need a motor, I can handle it. IMHO
Knor
svetta, of course, I completely agree if you twirl a lot, then the motor is faster. He is noisy, if children sleep will interfere. The cord from the motor is not long - you need an outlet nearby.
Seven-year plan
Girls! Don't forget that the motorized car does not need to be attached to the table! She just STANDS!
But the manual typewriter must be fixed !!!! And not everyone has such an opportunity!
I don’t have it ... or rather it is, but these are such dances with tambourines !!! ...
And still, she's not very good for me ...
Therefore, I am absolutely delighted with my own motor !!! I can put it where I want! This is very convenient when our kitchens are crowded! And the eternal lack of space!
Igrig
Quote: svetta

Igrig, well, I don’t know, I have been using such a machine for 2 years without a motor. I do not feel any inconvenience with the direction of the dough into the rolls, and at the bottom I have a foam plastic tray and the dough folds beautifully into it. I do not roll meter strips, a maximum of 30-40 cm, this length is quite enough for cutting noodles. Well, honestly, I absolutely calmly twist the handle and hold the dough, I don't call anyone for help. And it takes me about half an hour to knead the dough, roll out and cut the dough into 200 g of flour.
My argument is primitively simple - a person who has tried an electric motor will instantly "go over from the camp of the enemy to the side of the Bolsheviks." You just have to try !!!
It is pointless to conduct a conversation without testing it, to be honest, it's all the same to me to conduct a dialogue about oysters, which, by the way, I have not tried yet.
I would just love to hear your opinion after the electric rolling.
It is clear that the main obstacle is the price, now the engine itself for the Italian costs 6-7 thousand. But you can buy a rolling out for 2.2tr and an engine for it for 2.6tr. I'm afraid to give a link - I can't. And you can find it on the Internet.
Lera-7
Quote: Chubby
Until I had the motor, I also liked everything. Now I realized that the motor is sooooo much easier.
I completely agree! And the most important argument, at least for me, is that there is no need to screw the noodle cutter to the table.
Knor
Quote: Igrig
a person who has tried an electric motor will instantly "go over from the camp of the enemy to the side of the Bolsheviks."
For a year about me, I thought about the necessity.

Quote: Seven-year
be sure to fix
Quote: Lera-7
screw the noodle cutter to the table.
I was fine on the table, sat and twisted. Now I had to move to the countertop. There is an outlet, it is not on the table.
Lera-7
Quote: Chubby
I was fine on the table, sat and twisted. Now I had to move to the countertop.
My dining table is oval and the edge is rounded, the noodle cutter was not very securely fixed. And I could screw it to the top of the desktop only by opening the door of the table. Therefore, I am just delighted with the purchase of a motor. True prices now I managed to buy before the collapse of the ruble.
tat-63
Does anyone use the circle-shaped ravioli tool on the handle? Convenient device or not? Does the dough hold well?
Olka D
Quote: tat-63
Does anyone use the circle-shaped ravioli tool on the handle?
I want to buy myself such a thing, there is also a square in the kit, but something stops me, I'm not sure what I will use, you can try it with a glass for a start, a video was posted here, it's very interesting
kirch
Quote: tat-63

Does anyone use the circle-shaped ravioli tool on the handle? Convenient device or not? Does the dough hold well?
I have an 8 cm cutter, but I do not fasten it with it, but I cut out circles for dumplings and sculpt with my hands. Turns out the same size
Mirabel

tat-63
Yes, I sculpt the same with my hands, but I'm so tired that I don't have the strength I would like to speed up the process
dili1979
Today I ordered Marcato Ampia 150 mm, tomorrow they will bring it. Will cost 5500r. I found out about the motor-8000r. ... Decided without him, a little expensive.
Usually I buy equipment "with all the bells and whistles" (for example: baking with 12 programs, I use a maximum of 2-3!! Refrigerator with different cooling functions, I don't use it at all, even the hood has some functions, the same thing) it turns out that " bells and whistles "are not needed. Therefore, I decided that it was easier and a little cheaper. I hope I was not mistaken. Almost the entire forum was shoveled! Thanks to everyone who wrote their thoughts, etc.

Now I'm thinking of buying a roller device from Tescom, which cuts out circles so that the molding goes faster. Maybe someone else knows something else, pliz!
kirch
Quote: dili1979
Now I'm thinking of buying a roller device from Tescom, which cuts out circles so that the molding goes faster. Maybe someone else knows something else, pliz!
I cut circles by cutting them - for dumplings, and for dumplings it is very good and convenient to use a form for 3 tappervare dumplings
dili1979
Hello everyone! Allow me to brag ?! I liked her so much! Instead of a motor, I had children today, not because I am a merciless exploiter, but because they are interested in it for the first time. Of course it's better with a motor, hands are free. There is no dryer, because the first thing that came to mind was a grate from the oven on the backs of two chairs. But, this is for now. I made the dough as in Markatovskaya's brochure for 5 eggs and without salt. All is good. Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them
Olka D
dili1979Congratulations, and when I took mine, I also thought if I needed a dryer, there was an action, noodle cutter + dryer, I took it and I don't regret it, also a necessary thing
March
From the beginning I had a simple Chinese, and for more than two years the Empire of Titania. I use it very often, both as a dough rolling machine for all flour products, and a noodle cutter. I make the dough for the noodles once for one or two eggs, salt, flour, knead with my hands and stir with a dough roll, I immediately use fresh noodles and do not need to dry.
Igrig
dili1979,
Congratulations! A dryer is a must, as is a motor!
There is simply a gorgeous one that is compact both when drying and during storage. For 16 sheets of dough. I have just so many sheets for 500 g of flour.
Honestly, I can't even imagine that it could be better to come up with it!
dili1979
Quote: Igrig

dili1979,
Congratulations! A dryer is a must, as is a motor!
Thank you! I will acquire it over time. Dryers from Marcato are very expensive. Why such a price for plastic? Or I don’t understand something. I’ll look for it.
Sails
At Ozone, dryers were sold, like from Marcato, one to one, only cheaper.
Irgata
Quote: Igrig
A dryer is a must, as is a motor!
I'll add my little 5kop to your big piggy bank

a motor may be needed by those who make noodles a lot and constantly, who make dumplings (manti, dumplings) a lot and often

some citizens may not have a necessary motor

I have a simple Chinese noodle cutter, 6-7 years old, if not longer
lives almost all year on the edge of the kitchen table, unscrews in the fall, during the harvesting period

I make manti (dumplings) often, but not much, so I don't need a motor, I only need to occupy a place in an already small kitchen, sausages and round dough rolls out pretty quickly with me and without a motor

the price of the * motor * also stops me, for our volume of mantas / dumplings and noodles there is enough of a very compact hand-made Chinese woman, especially since the noodle cutter is inserted extremely rarely for me, for me dough sheeter - the main thing

so - in terms of production and technology

although I bought a fan dryer, I rarely take it out, during the period of large preparation of noodles, I cut it in one go more, so as not to widen in a small kitchen with noodles, although drying short noodles in trays of an electric dryer is also very convenient
Miranda
Irsha, I will subscribe!

I also do well with my hands, and I don't often use it, once a week or two, and the price of the motor stops me. If it costs 1-2 thousand, I might have bought it.

When I get Kenwood, there will be a motor for rolling out
Trishka
The girls need help, I want to buy a noodle cutter, the choice is between Marcato Atlas and Marcato Ampia, I understand that they probably asked to stop once, I wanted to know how they differ, I understood from the description that you can buy additional ones in the Atlas. nozzles and that's it?
And if I need them, then I can do with Ampia, the difference in price is 2,000 rubles, or are they all still different ??? Help with the choice ...
Trishka
Chubby, Svetlana, yes I was walking there, I thought maybe someone would give an express answer ...
Rada-dms
TrishkaTake the Atlas, you want variety, but you can put the dough one on top of the other, if something is wide to blind. No one has regretted WHAT THE ATLAS CHOSE!
Trishka
Rada-dmsOl, yes, I understand, but there is already 2000 difference, the cheapest is 7200, and Ampia is 5300 ...
But they differ, as I understand it, only in that the Atlas can be purchased extra. nozzles, huh?
Knor
Ksyusha, page 168, there is a link if you click on it. I do not know how to insert it differently. This is what is being discussed there. I have an Atlas 150. I like it very much
Trishka
Chubby, Svetul, thank you!
dili1979
Quote: Trishka


And if I need them, then I can do with Ampia, the difference in price is 2,000 rubles,
My choice was between Titania (Empire) and Ampia (Marcato). I just bought Ampia, I can't advise. But I made the following conclusions for myself:
- what I cook the most and how many times (i.e. how often the attachments will be used);
-the difference in price (+ Ampii), In the Atlas, of course, there are different nozzles, but you can cut the finished layer as you like. The only round spaghetti in any way.

As I was advised in the store: with different attachments, they usually take them for restaurants (maybe not, I don’t know when the money allows, it is also possible for the house). It seemed like they allowed me the money, but I was afraid that, as always, I would overpay for what I would use very, very rarely. And about the Empire, Titania said that she loses to Ampia Marcato because Marcato has better and smoother rollers for rolling. The quality is better with Marcato
I bought curly knives, round molds, and today I was coming off in full. Ampia-fairy tale, rolled out the dough with a bang! Nothing was sticky, it was torn, and without a huge amount of flour, I sprinkled it lightly! I love her already. I ran dumplings from 2kg of minced meat, and cut noodles: girl_manikur:
Caprice
dili1979Did you sculpt dumplings with your hands, or with a raviol nozzle?
Trishka
dili1979, thank you, kind man, now it remains to finally talk her husband out, referring to the love of dumplings ...
Seven-year plan
Ksyusha, Ampia and Atlas differ only in non-removable noodle attachments and removable!
And that's it !!!!
I took the non-removable ones (well, again, starting from my needs, two widths of noodles are quite enough for me !!!

But I really took 180 mm - it won't be wider. It won't be superfluous!
Waist
Quote: Trishka
now it remains to finally talk her husband out, referring to the love of dumplings ...
This is blackmail Love is, aha
Trishka
Svetlan, thank you!

Natasha, how can I burn without him ...
Do you like dumplings and homemade noodles, make it easier for yourself (well, for me at the same time)
dili1979
Caprice, you can't plant anything on Ampia, so I sculpted it with my hands without raviolnitsa. Raviolnica also decided not to acquire it. She rolled out the dough and with the help of a dumpling machine, and so cut out and molded the circles. The mugs are as thick as one.
We very often make dumplings for freezing. I rolled out each circle with a rolling pin, because rolling out one big circle is a problem for me. I really love homemade noodles, but before I remember that you need to roll out a circle, then chop finely, already brrrr: And now, beauty!


Added Saturday 09 Apr 2016 09:47 PM

I also bought such a thing "a roller for cutting circles" here on the forum, somewhere I saw it in a topic, I think, about all sorts of devices for the kitchen. I liked Teskom, it costs about 450 rubles. True, I bought ours at the household for 80 rubles for a trial, but I have not yet tested it in practice. You can see how he's doing on YouTube.


Posted Saturday 09 Apr 2016 9:53 PM

Trishka, it would be for what Good, my will agree to everything if only not to hang around in the kitchen. As learned, that without motor I take: crazy: frightened, that twist I will force. True, I have two motors running nearby and just whistle
Trishka
Quote: dili1979
that I was scared without a motor,
they are ...
Mirabel
Quote: dili1979
I also bought such a thing "a roller for cutting circles"
Give me a link to a video with these rollers. I bought similar ones on Ali, I almost got a nervous breakdown from their "work"
dili1979
MirabelDo not allow link to be inserted
Type it yourself: dumplings cutter (+ Teskoma) select pictures or video. There you can find everything and see what they are. But I haven't used it yet. I can't say good or bad. Maybe it should be dipped in flour to cut well? I cut out the round one below.
Homemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making themHomemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making themHomemade noodles, ravioli and everything for making them
Mirabel
dili1979, Yes, I've already looked. It seems like I did, but I'll try again.

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