Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
And this cover cannot be exchanged for a natural one directly from them?
No, he's part of the mattress. Quilted together with some kind of soft layer. And even without a side zipper.

(Dimensioned to allow for the base to fit into a standard bed box).
Yeah ... That is, for him, the box somehow needs to be done separately? This is completely different. Well, since the master says that he will do, then there are no problems.) Here the girls understand this better than me, I will not interfere with a smart look.)) Personally, I really do not like kicking against the walls, so there is a lot of free space in the new bed below. difference from the previous one. Where the panels do not reach the carpet by only five centimeters ((The dust gets there, and the vacuum cleaner - alas.

Quote: Anna1957
although I did not think to buy this case
I'm just in case. And then you never know what kind of Kashpirovsky among the sellers will come across.)) Will he suddenly try to persuade? They tried me.)
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou
And then you never know what kind of Kashpirovsky among the sellers will come across.)) Will he suddenly try to persuade? They tried me.)
No, I immediately show my teeth and suggest not to put pressure on me))) Right today. Offended for some reason
And this one is springless for the same price as yours. What is yoghurt impregnation?
Oh, how many wonderful discoveries we have ...
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Bijou
Malad.
Anna1957
I added in the previous post, look.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
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No, I know about myself for sure that I don't sleep well on pure foam.) Otherwise, I wouldn’t bother buying a bed where the sofa with a thick foam mattress stood perfectly. My husband feels good - I'm uncomfortable. "Inelastic".

Tatiana Gnezdilova
Anna1957, I have an Ascona mattress, I don't remember the model. I bought it with a protective cover right away, because the mattress is not cheap, it's a pity if we zagvazada, with the cover it is calmer. We sleep for only a year, but so far we like it, it does not creak, it is moderately elastic, a cover with an elastic band, cotton, terry, the sheets on it do not crawl. Were zipped, but synthetics, so I didn't take it. The bed was bought separately with a lifting mechanism. Sooooo happy, fits a lot - suitcases, bags, guest blankets, pillows, air mattresses. Something is in vacuum bags, something is simply covered, there are no big problems when cleaning.
Anna1957
Quote: Tatiana Gnezdilova
cover with elastic band, cotton, terry,
Purchased separately? What is the name of?
Here is the opinion of one person about the inconvenience of the lift in terms of cleaning spoils the whole picture for me. I probably won't listen to him.
Tatiana Gnezdilova
Anna1957, a cover with a mattress was immediately ordered from Ascona, they are different there, there is an elastic band, there is a zipper, with and without impregnation. Are matched to the height and width of the mattress. Cost, for the money, something in the region of 3-4 thousand rubles, but expensive, but the mattress is not cheap either. It's called a protective cover. I saw it in the Metro, I want to buy it for a change, cheaper, somewhere around a thousand with a small tail, the price depends on the size of the mattress. As for the cleaning, everything suits me, you can vacuum and wash, very little dust is collected.
Rada-dms
Anna1957, Anh, you can buy a bed in one place, a mattress in another, the main thing is to ask the seller of the bed exactly in size, about the size. There, the height is usually limited, but I have five cm more, and nothing. Both width and length must be specified in the specification.
Now I only admit with a lifting mechanism, I do not like to clean under the bed every time, all the time I injure the edges below with a vacuum cleaner ..., but here I stand and stand on the floor!
Half of the apartment really fits, the bed turns out higher, like lowered your feet to the floor, and you're already standing! Higher and the feeling of comfort is better.The only thing, since I have a very heavy, high mattress on my bed, I scare Misha when he gets something out of there, holding the edge in the upward position. But we "dive" there five times a year for things - winter-summer, and when we clean up thoroughly.


Added Monday 25 Jul 2016 2:52 PM

Tatiana Gnezdilova, said everything for sure !! And a cover, of course, is needed! Those who have small children take waterproof ones, the rest have enough protective ones. Especially if the cover is not removable, but removable on very expensive versions, and you also need to pull it back after cleaning and washing. I like the bamboo fiber mattress covers, and now it is linen with cotton filling. There must be a non-natural layer between the foam for air exchange.
Tatiana Gnezdilova
Rada-dms, so we bought it - a mattress with a cover in Ascona, and a bed with a bedside table in Shatura. The rest of the bedroom furniture is just custom made. For the summer, a cover with bamboo or linen itself is not hot. Yes, a lot fits under the bed, it's like another three-winged wardrobe, just lying down.
Anna1957
Well that's it, Bijou, I paid (40% so far) for your Orleans. Are you, Len, aware that "we are responsible for those we have tamed"?
In fact, I liked the mattress by the sensations, lay on a nearby Swedish kagbe - not a coat, there are much less springs. As for the cover, the girl opened her eyes wide and said: "He's knitted." I had to inform her that jersey is a way of interweaving threads, and threads can be both natural and synthetic. Then she gabbled at the memorized text, which bothered me a little, and said that today is the last day of the discount, which does not usually provoke me to buy immediately. But, since I came already with a firm desire to buy it, I bought it. You don't have to pick it up until 45 days (it's too early for me to drag the mattress there, now they will begin to collect furniture).
But there I learned useful information for myself regarding cleaning that excites me: the bottom is made of 2 parts that move freely, making it possible to wipe both the floor and the bottom itself.
In the same store, I was talked into a chair with a Finnish kagbe company Bo-box recliner. I didn't even consider this option, thinking it was expensive. But the seller confidentially told me that they had the last chair for 28tyr in the warehouse and sat me down in the same one, but for 58, with an electric mech. To be honest, I was crazy. And let's sit in all their models. And all are very comfortable, but in different ways. In short, while I was thinking, they already bought it on my computer. I was not very upset, because outwardly it is not quite my taste (too pretentious), but I was ready to sacrifice it for the convenience. And the girls said that on Thursday they would bring another model (I liked it better in the picture), and the most expensive of all is a thousand by 3. I don't know if the performance was played in front of me or everything was fair. But these girls I liked because they didn't press me, which I told them
Rada-dms
We have a sofa with recliners! Anh, congratulations, a good mattress for the description. Then tell me your feelings, it is important to me! Will there be a feeling of pushing and bouncing when turning the body. Then I will buy one for the children at the dacha.
Anna1957
Quote: Rada-dms

We have a sofa with recliners! Anh, congratulations, a good mattress for the description. Then tell me your feelings, it is important to me! Will there be feelings of pushing and bouncing when turning the body over. Then I will buy one for the children at the dacha.
Necessarily, just don't know when it will be. My masters are very leisurely. Although I am good too - it seems that the kitchen was drawn, but after walking around Aquilon I decided to tweak the concept. I have a gas boiler in my kitchen, which will be hidden in a column 45cm wide to the countertop. And this strange asymmetry, from which there is no escape, strained me. And then I saw a "hearth", that is, the columns should be made two 45 each, and then between them a gas panel for 3 burners and a hood for 45 is placed between them.And this "hearth" in the form of the letter "P" will be contrasting, the color of the lower floor cabinets.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
That's it, Bijou, I paid (40% so far) for your Orleans.

What did I tell you? So that you long picked it up, listening to the sensations. Among many mattresses. What are you doing?

By the way, how do you like "jersey"? Matched my description, or what?)
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou


What did I tell you? So that you long picked it up, listening to the sensations. Among many mattresses. What are you doing?

By the way, how do you like "jersey"? Matched my description, or what?)
Everything is done, it's too late to rush. The springs are 1000, the height is more than 20cm, the sensations on the back and sides are pleasant. They do not seek from goodness.
"Knitwear" also seemed to me not quite natural, despite her assurances.
By the way, there was no waterproof cover for vparivaniya for the guarantee of my size. But I was presented with such a cover for Lan's pillow, I will buy a natural four-thread from above to pull.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
Everything is done, it's too late to rush. The springs are 1000, the height is more than 20cm, the sensations on the back and sides are pleasant. They do not seek from goodness.
Well, okay. Maybe it should.
Boom to hope that you will not be disappointed, but will also fall in love with him every night.
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou

Well, okay. Maybe it should.
Boom to hope that you will not be disappointed, but will also fall in love with him every night.

Now it remains to wait for him. Well, making the bed. And before that there will be a kitchen, which is still at the sketching stage, so the timing is very vague.
LisaNeAlisa
BijouI may be an alien, but I sleep on both. In the winter at the memorial, in the summer at the coconut.
ikom
Yesterday we chose a mattress. My husband wants to be hard, he can sleep comfortably on bare pieces of wood, I find some of them harsh of medium hardness. I came to the conclusion that we need two different mattresses, but my husband is against, she says, the joint will be very felt. It is necessary to look for some kind of compromise ... Does anyone have experience with two mattresses, how is it? While we were in Ormatek and Ascona, I found out about Hilding only tonight, I had to lie down with them ...
RepeShock
Quote: ikom
Does anyone have experience with two mattresses, how is it?

If my memory serves me right, now there are options where you can do different degrees of rigidity from different sides.
Search the internet for information.
ikom
RepeShock, Irina, from different sides, yes, there is such, only it will turn out a week one sleeps comfortably, the next another ... if you turn the mattress ... I meant two narrow mattresses at the same time together, of different rigidity. And a common cover on top of them.
Mariana Eve
Inga, we once had 2 mattresses, however, the same, well, everything is fine. It's even more convenient for me - I could turn it over easily.
Now one, try to turn it over! Only her husband can turn him over.
And still there will be a mattress topper, it will "soften" this joint, if only the mattresses are the same in height
Anchic
Inga, my husband and I are sleeping on the couch, which is a eurobook. In fact, you get the same two mattresses side by side. Everything is normal, the joint in the middle does not cause any inconvenience.
ikom
Marina, Anna, thank you, I will try to convey to my husband that this option has the right to exist. In the meantime, I will go alone, lie down, pick it up))
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
And what are you going to put these two mattresses on?

ikom
How to what? On the same thing, on which a mattress is placed, for example 160 cm wide.You will get 2 mattresses 80 cm each
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

It will be a base or frame bed
RepeShock
Quote: ikom
from different sides, yes, there is such, only it will turn out a week one sleeps comfortably, the next another ... if you turn the mattress ... I meant simultaneously two narrow mattresses together, of different rigidity. And a common cover on top of them.

Inga, no no no, I put it wrong. From different ends of one side. That is, your husband is tougher, yours is softer, for example.

Here, out of two mattresses, a common mattress will definitely not be comfortable.
ikom
Quote: shade
It will be a base or frame bed
There is a bed now. We will probably change to a bed with a lifting mechanism.

Irina, just today in Hilding Anders they offered such an option, only it is not spring-loaded. I was without a husband, I had to go with him.

So far, my husband may agree to Serta Dorsey or Serta Sanders, they seemed a little harsh to me, but for him the compromise ... he liked it harder.
Today one looked at Hilding Anders, Viking or Orlean seemed to me more convenient, and at a price much cheaper.
In Ormatek, maybe Dream Mix SS would be okay for me, I really doubt my husband ...
Feels like after a perfume shop Today I like Hilding))
Bijou
Quote: ikom
Viking or Orlean seemed to me more convenient, but at a price much cheaper.
Quote: ikom
So far, my husband may agree to Serta Dorsey or Serta Sanders, they seemed a little harsh to me
I don’t understand ... Memory and latex seemed harder than coconut in Viking ??
We have one mattress where the latex is on the coconut. At first, everything hurt for a week, while I adapted.)) Therefore, now they just bought elastic, but not solid.
ikom
Probably, after all, Orleans liked it)) There was also a mattress in which the top layer consisted of additional small springs, but I don't remember the name and my feelings from it.
Bijou
Yeah, there are some for very expensive.) But I liked it.

ikom, you have a million times more opportunities to "lie down" than I had. And Orleans is quite a budget mattress with foam rubber. Don't get hung up, pick more!

Basically, all the variety comes down to the main criteria - spring or springless?
If spring, then with coconut or felt? The coconut plate practically negates all the variety of springs underneath and there is not much difference how many are there and what they are by zone. Well, the top layer is of three types - the simplest is foam rubber with all sorts of beautiful names, then latex, then memory (sometimes 2 and 3 cm).

Well, in general, almost everything ... And, Ormatek also has an option with some other top layer, either synthetic winterizer, or fluffy felt ... Very softly and personally I feel the springs. In general, I fought not to feel the springs, but how long this state will last in Orleans - God knows ... About his sister Ascona, the video is walking, that after a year the coconut springs were rubbed and climbed out.) That is why I wanted small springs. ...

There is still a lot of all sorts of crap inside memeshano .. There are springs sewn together, there are different metals, there are different shapes (and the "hourglass" type is the most budget option, as far as I remember).

IMHO, for me, too, the most attractive option would be two mattresses in one bed. But my husband is quite picky and he doesn't care what to sleep on - before that, he slept with great pleasure on the couch on thick thick foam rubber, while I dragged a bunch of other softer bedding on my half, because I can't.

And the daughter has a sofa with two different halves, softer and harder. So in a dream she always crawls to the denser side.
Anyutok
Relevant for us. Now we are waiting for a bed with a Ryton mattress (the manufacturer is the same as Ormatek, SMS from Ormatek come). Our old bed served 10 years and last Saturday we moved to the house of our fathers-in-law, the daughter will now sleep on it at their place. When we were choosing, we lay on a pile of mattresses. But, frankly, it's hard to know which one will be more comfortable. As a result, we ordered this
Life stitch latona
How Do I Pick a Good Bed Mattress?
Description

A unique double-sided mattress with the latest spring block (1020 springs per bed). The large number of springs provides high point support for the spine. The use of natural coconut coir in the model gives it elasticity and improves its orthopedic properties.
Layer composition:
latex coconut coir (20 mm)
spunbond
independent spring block S1000 (1020 springs per berth)
spunbond
latex coconut coir (20 mm)
box made of Raitex
Max. weight for 1 berth 140 kg
Permissible difference in weight 30 kg
Stiffness 1 side 6 (hard)
Stiffness 2 sides 6 (hard)
Naturalness of components High
Height 22 cm
Mattress service life 15 years
15 year warranty


And such a bed (solid pine, built-in orthopedic base)
How Do I Pick a Good Bed Mattress?
All together cost 38 thousand (with a mattress topper)
Will be brought in on August 17, so while we sleep on the couch in the hall
Bijou
IMHO, as much as two centimeters of coconut does not increase its elasticity, but its hardness.)) And so they will write in advertising, they will write it as if no one has a drop of logic left ... ikomprobably would do.
Quote: Anyutok
The large number of springs provides high point support for the spine. The use of natural coconut coir in the model gives it elasticity and improves its orthopedic properties.
I wonder how these tiny 1020 springs are forced through the thick coconut slab to our body to provide "high point support"?
Anyutok
Bijou, yes, God is with them. If only it was comfortable to sleep, otherwise the springs dug into the sides of the old cheap mattress
Bijou
Anyutok, tell me later how it is?
It's amazing how different people have different preferences for mattresses. We have 1 cm of coconut, 2 cm of latex on top and a thick synthetic winterizer cover - and my sides ached.))
Anyutok
BijouI will, of course. Most of the mattresses we tested in the store felt too soft for me.


Added on Tuesday 09 Aug 2016 10:16 AM

I found interesting information about the choice of stiffness. And, based on it, I chose the right hard mattress - it is more suitable for young people (up to 50 years old), for those who like to sleep on their stomach, active, with problems in the upper spine (I have trouble with my neck)
Criterias of choice

Age

If you are thinking which mattress is better to buy for a newborn, then orthopedic surgeons strongly recommend that they sleep only on hard mattresses. After all, their spine is in constant development and active growth. For this purpose, we recommend buying a coconut fiber mattress.

The firmness of the mattress for the child should not be high. For children aged 2-3 years, we recommend buying soft orthopedic mattresses. And if you have not decided which children's mattress is better to buy with a low firmness, then just choose a springless mattress of medium firmness. firmness of the mattress

Since the growth of the spine continues until the age of 30, it is recommended to sleep on hard orthopedic mattresses and medium-hard mattresses until this age in order to promote proper skeletal and muscle growth.

Up to 50 years old, you can buy mattresses of any hardness, according to the state of health and personal preferences.

For people over 50, it is advisable to buy a medium hard mattress or soft mattress models in order to reduce the stress on the joints. In general, it is risky for older people to sleep on mattresses with increased hardness due to possible problems with the intervertebral discs.

The rule of healthy sleep: the younger the body, the harder the mattress should be, and accordingly, the older, the better the soft mattress.

Weight

Soft mattresses are well suited for people weighing up to 55 kilograms. For example, orthopedic spring mattresses without coconut layers or mattresses made of natural latex.

From 55 to 95 kilograms - medium firm mattresses. Especially mattresses with independent springs.

From 95 kg - mattresses with high rigidity are needed. Such as a reinforced spring mattress (with thick wire springs) or a mattress made of dense filler without springs.

Health status

People with diseases in the upper spine need hard orthopedic mattresses.

With diseases in the lumbar region, softer mattresses are needed to be soft and at the same time to support the lower back well. orthopedic mattresses firmness

For people with chronic back diseases, as well as after injuries or operations, the choice of mattress hardness is carried out only according to medical indications.

Lifestyle

For active people with great physical exertion, mattresses with high rigidity are perfect. It is clear that for passive people with little physical activity, softer mattresses are needed.

Body position in a dream

For those who sleep on their stomach, a hard orthopedic mattress is needed.

For sleeping on the side - soft.

For those who sleep on the back - an orthopedic mattress of medium firmness.

Personal preferences

Everyone needs comfort! If you sleep on an uncomfortable mattress, then your body will not rest, your muscles will not relax, as a result of which the morning will not be vigorous, there will be no good mood, which will later affect your health. Therefore, pay attention to your desires, choose a mattress with the desired firmness, so that your sleep is healthy and full. If you find it difficult to decide, then in this case a double-sided hardness mattress may be suitable. This mattress with different hardness of the sides has both a soft side and a hard side. The hard side will not fit, turn over to the soft, it's simple!

Admin
Quote: Anyutok

As a result, we ordered this
Life stitch latona

How Do I Pick a Good Bed Mattress?


I have such a mattress. Holds its shape well, and "softness" is normal
I bought a mattress in March. I consulted in the store for a long time, I talked and twisted everything - I chose this one.
I always put my mattress cover on top for safety, comfort, softness - an ordinary cotton blanket and a large sheet on top to fold the edges a lot.
But, the cost was much cheaper!
Anyutok
Admin, this with the bed together 38 thousand. The mattress itself cost about 24000 and the discount was 20%. Thank you for your feedback, otherwise I was already scared that it would be tough.
Admin
Anya, I realized Well, this pleasure cost me even more with the bed, I fell so in love with my bed when I saw it in the store that I didn't look anymore
And the mattress is about 20 thousand, together with discounts

In general, a mattress is very individual, even for two lovers on the same bed.
And here our "FI" are of a general nature - and nothing more
Anyutok
Admin, we also immediately fell in love with the bed, we wanted exactly the array, and in Ascona and Hilding Anders only leatherette stood
Bijou
Quote: Anyutok
Soft mattresses are well suited for people weighing up to 55 kilograms. For example, orthopedic spring mattresses without coconut or natural latex mattresses.
Here it is!! My meager pounds are simply not able to push this board.

Quote: Anyutok
Lifestyle

For active people with great physical exertion, mattresses with high rigidity are perfect. It is clear that for passive people with little physical activity, softer mattresses are needed.

Body position in a dream

For those who sleep on their stomach, a hard orthopedic mattress is needed.

For sleeping on the side - soft.

For those who sleep on the back - an orthopedic mattress of medium firmness.
I always hovered over such "recommendations". In general, I cannot understand how you can follow them ... Unless you tie a person in one position for a period of sleep so that the spine, God forbid, does not change its "correct" position.
Niarma
Quote: Anyutok
And such a bed (solid pine, built-in orthopedic base)
very nice bed! who makes them and what is the name of the model?
Anyutok
Niarma, manufacturer Ryton. The model is called Venice, the price on the website is now 19990 (140 * 200). We bought when there was a 20% discount. They have representative offices throughout Russia, production in Ivanovo. The only negative is to wait a long time, a whole month.
Niarma
Anna, thank you
ninza
Anyutok Anna, can I give you the full name of your mattress? I need a mattress. Thank you.
Anyutok
ninza, Ryton Latona stitch life
ninza
Quote: Anyutok
Ryton Latona stitch life
Anya, thank you!
ikom
Bijou, thank you, it settles in my head a little)) Yesterday I lay down on the mattresses for a bit, then it turned out that they had opened the garage, we’ll move away a bit, we’ll take care of the mattresses again.
Kiselikha
Quote: Anyutok

Admin, we also immediately fell in love with the bed, we wanted exactly the array, and in Ascona and Hilding Anders only leatherette stood

On hilding anders, the upholstery fabric is not made of leatherette, but from eco-leather. This material "breathes". And many products made of genuine leather do not have this quality! And I love the beds from this online store.

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