Anna1957
Quote: $ vetLana
the spring mattress is not the most expensive. It stood for about a year unpacked - rolled into a pipe
And I thought - only springless twists
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

I have a regular mattress \ what year we will not be happy \ and here are the pillows from the memory
At first I liked it, but now it seems soft
Somehow my head sinks deep
LisaNeAlisa
On the contrary, I don't like the pillow from the memorial: high and tough. Maybe the head is light)))
Anna1957
I went to the salon, lay down on the selected medium hardness Fortune and realized that I needed a higher hardness
At work, the issue of mattress beds was also actively discussed, and I heard an unexpected negative feedback about beds with a lifting mechanism, that it is inconvenient to get to the headboard in the drawer and the difficulties in cleaning in this regard. I got stuck
LisaNeAlisa
Anna, try looking at coconut mattresses. I have the other side with coconut, it is tough. I sleep on it in summer, when it's very hot.
Anna1957
Yes, on a coconut and independent springs. But to get some useful information from prodov - The main task is to get at least something. That is why I am torturing you here. They wrote to me that just not Ascona, now I'm trying to realize which way to look. The budget is no more than 15tyr per size 120x200.
Rada-dms
Anna1957, Anh, you need to lie longer, in the lightest clothes. The layers of Memori and the like at the top are not suitable for everyone, you drown in it, like in oil, you turn, and it still did not immediately restore its former shape. And it is very hot on it, it was hot for me. The higher the temperature, the more plastic and hotter it is.
Then you need to feel whether you like it or not a certain effect of springing on the spring and pushing out, if the layer of latex is on top. Well, the top layer should be plump and well quilted, preferably removable. In any case, it should be possible to look inside the mattress, see the layers.
I also do not advise with coconut inserts, there is a lot of glue and over time they are pressed through and begin to crumble.
Regarding the silver priblud - I have two expensive down pillows of the same company, and so in the pillow with silver it smells completely on the face after several years, better, fresh! I could never get used to orthopelic, and downy ones, as I need and comfortable, transform there under my head and sensitive neck.
I have a bed with a lift, the mattress on it is very high, that is, the sleeping place itself is high - it is very convenient to get up and go to bed without loading the knee joints. And it looks beautiful!
Well, it's better to take a harder one, if there are doubts, if anything, the softness can be slightly adjusted with a good mattress topper (3 cm.)
Anna1957
Quote: Rada-dms
I have a bed with a lift
I'm talking about something else - they say it's difficult to get to the headboard in the box and don't wipe the dust - don't reach it. They say boxes are more convenient.
Why not take Ascona? And which company should be considered then?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
And you have a Mattress Market - there are both expensive and affordable options
and the base can be selected there.
Rada-dms
Anna1957, Ascona stinks every other time, and the springs pop out.
Anna1957
Quote: shade
Mattress Market
I looked - only the Moscow phone. But there is a combined hodgepodge, different companies, we also have them.
Rada-dms
Better normal foam rubber, it seems from Sweden, is supplied to some factories than a hundred advertising layers made of Chinese materials.


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 02:16 PM

Fits less in boxes.We vacuum there about once every three months, and everything that lies inside - suitcases, country bells and whistles, summer curtains and winter-summer blankets, are simply covered with old sheets on top so that they don't get dusty. Everything that can be stored in containers or vacuum sealed.
Anna1957
Quote: Rada-dms
normal foam rubber seems to be supplied from Sweden to some factories than a hundred advertising layers made of Chinese materials.
It is necessary to understand this. Everywhere it is written orto foam or just PPU. And you will understand.
I will also think about lifting boxes. I want to buy an orthopedic base and sew it with boards in the color of the cabinets so that there is no inconsistency in color. And I found the lifting mechanism for 5.600, the master is ready to embody any fantasies. You just need to understand where the optimal is.
Rada-dms
And even very expensive mattresses smell, but the smell should disappear in a week, if not, then a complaint!


Added Sunday, Jul 24, 2016 2:22 pm

If someone has a cool filling, then they are happy to show the certificates, they just poke it in the nose! You have to ask. And lie, lie, and it is better immediately with the pillow chosen.
Bijou
Quote: * Annie *
HILDING ANDERS with a spring block - the quality is many times better than that of Ascon
I don’t know how much higher the quality is, but I’m inclined to think that things produced by one owner at the same plant and sold for about the same price can hardly differ so dramatically. But when I went to "lie down", none of the Ascon presented in the salon I liked even once. In a couple, I even clearly felt the springs under the booty when I sat down.

Therefore, I knew for sure that I needed springs 1) small, 2) high. So all mattresses with large springs and below 22 cm went through the forest.
And I also didn't need a mattress, neither hard nor soft ... I needed exactly an elastic one. So that it is both soft and not "quicksand", as one customer called the expensive mattress for the memory, which she returned to the store, and not a hammock ...

And yet, yes, for the money available to me, I also picked up one of the Hildings. I left, lay in another place on Ormatek, came back to compare ... And I bought it.)) So far, only 4 months, but every day I like it and my husband.

IMHO, people are different. It is necessary, absolutely necessary to lie down on the mattress. And not even once.
Rada-dms
I already advised here like - RollMattress, everyone is happy, I have an Orland Park mattress from Serta. Look at what layers there are in this Orland, very comfortable and not too soft, the body sinks slightly only in the upper quilted layer, the spine holds well, and the bones do not receive a load under their own weight. I practically do not toss and turn on it at night.
I'm leading to the fact that the mattress itself can be hard, and the top layer is lush and breathable!
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou
I picked up one of the Hildings.
Went to watch
Luna Nord
AnnaAnna, I would tell a lot about mattresses (I have had this job for many, many years), but I think that you will still take the one that is profitable to sell to the salon consultant, he will competently lead you to this. Therefore, I will say this: It is advisable to use mattresses with coconut coir until 30 years old and ..., further, not desirable, because on a hard mattress, the circulation of blood and lymph in soft tissues slows down. Also, if there is excess weight, then unacceptable pressures will appear on the hard bed in the area of ​​the shoulders and hips, which will have a bad effect on well-being. Such people need to buy a mattress with a stiffer support base, but with a soft filler. F2 mattresses and F3 reinforced support system correspond to this level.
And, in general, I think that you should not overpay for a brand, any mattress, even the most expensive one, wears out. For example: in 2013 I bought a mattress (Asconovsky) for 47,000, and for my son, for 10,150, now both his mattress and mine have a depression characteristic of the operation of the product. At the same time, of course, as recommended, I turned it over every two or three months. Conclusion: why pay a lot of money if you still need to change the mattress in 5-8 years? But, of course, everyone here decides for himself.


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 02:41 PM

Quote: Bijou
It is necessary, absolutely necessary to lie down on the mattress. And not even one
Moreover, to lie down not even 20 minutes and not as usual buyers lie down ....)))))) will stretch out to line and lie. You should not be shy, ask the seller to move away (if you are embarrassed) and lie down the way you do at home, bend your leg, put your ass out .... and lie, lie, lie. Then there is a chance to buy something that your body will be really comfortable on.
Rada-dms
I completely agree with everything, but the environmental friendliness of materials is important! And our mattress for 10 years of operation does not even have a hint of wear and tear, despite the fact that the model is without overturning.
Anna1957
Quote: Lucilia
you will still take the one that is profitable to sell to the salon consultant,
This is exactly what you want to avoid And lie down for a long time when the seller is standing over you, shifting from foot to foot. Today I did not succeed I will try to fulfill all the recommendations, I have a vacation ahead.
Luna Nord
Anna1957, Anh, before buying, study the Internet for savvy and go ahead ..... when the seller sees that the buyer is information savvy, he does not press, but performs his professional functions. If for example. decided to stay at Ascona, choose the name of the mattress and go to the forum, everything is there, they will tell everything, even the smallest details. By the way, Ascona often has a marriage in the form of "snow", this is when the mattress starts to creak during operation, as if you are walking in the snow, such a mattress must be replaced.
Anna1957
Quote: Rada-dms
RollMattress,
Looked at Hildingi, Roll Mattress. Here it hangs again. I chose 2-sided (well, I’m so contradictory), and then it begins: top side, bottom side So how should it be? Harder d. B. top or bottom?
You will kill me right now


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 3:04 pm

Lucilia,
Quote: Lucilia
does not press, but performs its professional functions.
if the seller presses, I immediately turn around.



Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 3:05 pm

Quote: Lucilia
study the internet before buying,
Oh. studying
Rada-dms
Anna1957, my firm belief that you will sleep on the same one, on the one that immediately seems more comfortable. Yes, and the winter and summer sides are not so important, we do not live in the taiga.
Luna Nord
Quote: Rada-dms
my firm belief that you will sleep on the same one, on the one that immediately seems more comfortable.
!!!!!!!!! And there is! Anh, don't overpay for options!
Anna1957
So I do not argue that on one, I just leave myself a choice. But the question of which side should be the top and which side should be the bottom puzzled me.I also think that the top should be comfortable, but why does the manufacturer catch up with such a fog


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 03:20 PM

Lucilia,
Quote: Lucilia
Ascona often has a marriage in the form of "snow", this is when the mattress starts to creak during operation, as if you are walking in the snow, such a mattress must be replaced.
Thanks for this warning, I somehow don't want to bother with the replacement.
Rada-dms
Anna1957, you lie on all sides, let them turn it over a hundred times - this is their job, and just choose the convenient side and good filling. And for the spring board so that they do not miss when you sit on it from the edge. And when you are lying, the manager should not stand over his soul. Say that you will call later, you cannot so relax and feel the sensations when they talk to you.
Choose three options that are acceptable, let the frets in different places and lie down three times longer. Then at home analyze the sensations again - the subconscious mind will choose something by itself. Go down again, throw one back, and choose from two! Choosing a mattress is not a matter of five minutes!


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 03:26 PM

On which one you can completely relax, especially the collar zone, the forearm, and so that the priest does not fall through, pulling the spinal column behind you, take that one. It is good even if you lie down, and someone close to you will appreciate how straight the spine is in a position on the back and on the side.
Does it press on your shoulder when you lie on your side, does it press on the hip joint, no matter how the mattress "melts" into the bones?
Anna1957
Quote: Rada-dms
Choosing a mattress is not a matter of five minutes!

I already felt it. Now tell me this: if I choose a bed with drawers, which base should I choose? Is it on a metal frame (this is better, of course), is it collapsible (is it essential?), Are the lamellas narrow or wide better?
Rada-dms
Anna1957, I took off my slats, so they specifically spring and sometimes even bend the mattresses up in the middle. Especially if the mattresses are not very high. I replaced it with plywood with drilled holes for air exchange. But we have a 35 cm mattress somewhere high, plus the mattress topper is not thick.
Of course, metal is better, and so that it is designed for a lot of weight. And each base has a recommended maximum mattress height and weight that must not be exceeded.
Anna1957
I myself found the answers to my questions. I leave a link, someone will be useful
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Rada-dms
Anna1957, good luck !!
Anna1957
Quote: Rada-dms
I took off my lamellas,
Opankii. New turn. There is also just a plywood base.
Rada-dms
Anna1957, you like the slats to spring a little, we like to feel a solid foundation under us, even psychologically I'm more comfortable, but we have a high mattress. I don't understand at all why there are slats for a good spring mattress. If they act on a mattress, then the mattress is bad. Put a good mattress even on a cement floor, it should be comfortable.
Anna1957
But without slats, damn it, much more expensive. And one more parameter: the number of springs in the mattress per sq. Does the meter matter? There are options 210, 256, 500 with something. But the price does not always increase in parallel, so this question arose.
Rada-dms
Anna1957, see from 500 per meter. Better more!
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
So I do not argue that on one, I just leave myself a choice. But the question of which side should be the top and which side should be the bottom puzzled me
I hesitate to ask ... Why a double-sided mattress, if then sleep on one side? The Internet only says that people choose only one, getting used to it. It turns out that we pay the full amount, but we get a mattress cut in half?

When for the same money, spending a little more time and attention when choosing, you can buy a mattress that is equally pleasant and comfortable on both sides and it will live almost twice as long, no?) Okay, I can somehow understand the troubles on the topic winter-summer, if the temperature in the rooms of people in different seasons is very different. But people also choose different harshness!

We have our two beds and two mattresses. Just one is softer-elastic, the other is tougher, with latex and coconut. For myself, I can say that I don't really like changing the sleeping place - I definitely chose the newer option.)) Although I once liked the old one very much. After I got used to it for almost a month.))
Luna Nord
Quote: Anna1957
if I choose the bed with drawers
Anh, with boxes or with a lifting mechanism, these are fundamentally different things! For many manufacturers, very often, there is a stiffener in the center of the base, we call it a "rooster", it is placed (as a rule, but there are exceptions) on not very good quality beds, for better support of the orthopedist, and this case is closed with boxes, so that no questions arise. I would have treated such a design with increased attention, it means that the bedside tsars are made of pressed cardboard or low quality chipboard, which during operation leads to a creak of the bed or even its breakage (it does not withstand everyday "lying") Well, there is still a lot many nuances, you can't tell about everything.
But the lifting mechanism, this is a planned design and its only drawback is the box itself, get out at least every day, there will still be dust in it (I call it a "dust collector", if this does not scare you or you have figured out how to deal with these, then , you are welcome.
The podiatrist usually comes with a bed, but you can sometimes buy it separately.It is better for the orthopedist to be gray, he is reinforced, this can be seen even with the naked eye, the tube is more powerful. Such orthopedists are offered by manufacturers of hotel furniture, do not be intimidated by the word "hotel", they also have beautiful things. If the furniture is of a hotel type, this must be indicated on the catalog. For example: "Europe" Moscow, but you need to be careful about the quality of the beds themselves.
About slats. If you want to remove the slats, then it is better to immediately buy a bed with a hardboard base, so as not to overpay, it costs less, but then we pay special attention to the tsars, because it is on them that the main load of the base will fall. It is better that the drawers are either made of wood, which is rare, because the price is either made of MDF, this is a completely environmentally friendly material (the main thing in it is formaldehyde, in contrast to chipboard. Chipboard cannot be made without formaldehyde)
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou
And why a double-sided mattress, if then sleep on one side?
Len, I'm telling you that I'm all so contradictory. Today - one thing, tomorrow another And in terms of temperature, we really get very hot and stuffy and quite cold. Yes, if I knew what I want, I would not wipe you out here. All your advice based on personal experience is very valuable to me.
Lilida
Anna1957, you will buy - ask the seller about the certificate for the product. As it turns out, some have no idea about it, you can buy an incorrectly made mattress, and then suffer from severe back pain. I watched a TV show about mattresses. Coconut is also not recommended - insects start. I did not remember anything else from the program, I looked half-eyes.
Anna1957
Quote: Lucilia
The podiatrist usually comes with a bed, but you can sometimes buy it separately.
I consider it separately. I have my furniture maker, who will make cabinets, and make a bed from the same material on top of this base. It is necessary to decide: with boxes or with a lift. I don't understand yet.
Luna Nord
Anna1957, Anh, I finished writing there.


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 4:30 pm

And about the feet of the base themselves. Usually legs are black, square in section, that is, the same as a regular, not reinforced orthopedic surgeon. And there is a round leg at the base, there are usually 6 of them, and not five as is customary. And these legs fold down if necessary. You need to wash the floor, lifted two legs and washed, and so on. but, if the bed is with a lift, then, of course, not about what legs are out of the question.
Bijou
Quote: Anna1957
And in terms of temperature, we really get very hot-stuffy and quite cold.
Well, in winter I put a woolen blanket under the cover. It will be cheaper.

Quote: Anna1957
Len, I'm telling you that I'm all so contradictory. Today is one thing, tomorrow is another
This song is familiar to me.)) I'll take my brain while I decide, and the rest of the trailer. But it's better to pick up a little longer, so that later you don't bite your elbows.)
Nata333
Anna, look back at Vegas. Here I will buy myself again here.
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In Ukraine, we slept on this from 2003 to 2014. Very satisfied.
As my late mother used to say when I persuaded her to use the same mattress, "the mattress is like a mattress, you really wake up, and your back and legs do not hurt ..."
This particular model has 1 cm of coconut and 3 cm of latex on it. Didn't smell anything from the first day.
And what a thrill it was turning on your side, not looking for a comfortable position for the pelvis ...
Niarma
Soon I have to choose a mattress. I sleep mostly on my stomach. Please tell me which models and what rigidity to pay attention to. Just like Anna, she slept on sofas all her life.
Bijou
Niarma, then I will take the liberty of recommending to try the model that I bought myself - Renault Orleans.
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I also sleep on my stomach and I hate sleeping on sofas.
Niarma
Bijou, Lena, thank you. We have 1 store, so I can try this mattress. Is it 2-sided - is it winter-summer or different hardness? How long do you use it?
Bijou
Niarma, it is double-sided because you can sleep on both sides of it. But they are exactly the same among themselves, it is also drawn there.
I am not saying that you need to buy it.)) I just advise you to include it in the list for consideration. How much I use I wrote above - recently, only 4 months. But I never got sick on it. Whereas on the previous one, with coconut and latex, the first week, some parts of my body were frankly aching. Although when I got used to it, I quite liked it. Only latex creaks, contagion. Because .. latex.
Coconut doesn't seem to rustle.
julia007
Quote: Anna1957
I myself found the answers to my questions. I leave a link, someone will be useful
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We bought something similar in Ikea in the form of a bed. And the mattress in Ascona is like this

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I sleep on it for the second month while I like everything tfu ... tfu ... tfu ... after sleep nothing hurts, I get up refreshed. The mattress is two-sided, hard on one side and medium hard on the other. 25 year warranty. I decided that I needed a good mattress on which it would be comfortable to sleep, but the bed could be a simple one.
About the two sides. If the mattress is orthopedic (I don’t know, maybe an ordinary one too), then it needs to be turned over every six months (it can be every three months), so it will stay in good shape longer.
In defense of Ascona, I can say that the mattresses there are different (I mean the brands Askona, Mediflex, King Koil, Serta) and not all of them begin to creak over time.
Anna1957
Lena, please, take the audacity to share your developments - I really like them. By the way. tomorrow.
True, my size 19tyr is worth Chet I wanted to be cheaper. Although Radin-Olin is also somewhere near at a price.


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 10:33 pm

Did you take the foundation there too? I can afford only with flexible lamellas for ~ 5tyr. The rest are from 15 to 70.
For 5.600 I found a base with a mechanism for a lift - maybe it makes sense to take it? The money is the same, but the functionality increases immediately.


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 10:37 pm

Quote: Nata333
look back at Vegas.
My size is 28tyr. Overkill: -



Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 10:54 pm

Quote: julia007
We bought something similar in Ikea in the form of a bed.
I did not mean (which will be useful) not the grounds themselves - there are a lot of them everywhere, but the text below.


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 10:55 pm

Quote: Bijou
But it's better to pick up a little longer, so that later you don't bite your elbows.)
This is also about me
Bijou
Anna1957, eh?) Well, okay.

No, I bought the base in a shop near the house called "Do it yourself". Well, with furniture fittings which. Thousands 3-4 like our size 140x200 on lamellas. I didn't understand the mechanisms with lifts / boxes at all, I can't help, I'm sorry. (

Make sure that the base is intended specifically for the paneling, it has special plates for this. I then wrote that they are different, but now I forgot how to distinguish it by name. ((

Quote: Anna1957
True, my size 19tyr is worth Even cheaper I wanted

I also wanted to. ((And I even found it. But it was swept aside after the experiments.
This mattress has the weakest place for me - I don't really like the cover itself. I don’t know why. On the other, Strong, it is much nicer. And here is such a synthetic-synthetics ...

And, while I remembered about the guarantee. Hilding has it. I suspect that Ascona's associates are the same.
Extended warranty. Distributed exclusively after purchasing a rather expensive waterproof case. Leaving the addiction to this kind of bedding is not the point. And the fact is that if you bother with this, then you need to carefully track terms of purchase - a cover bought even a day later than the mattress may no longer be a basis for a guarantee. Simultaneous purchase only!))
They do not advertise much anywhere, they dug it up on some small forum.

We have the usual Consul covers with sidewalls on both beds. The old one is many times better than the new one, which I ordered purely according to the old article.I came unexpected, so I don't offer too much, although in general there seem to be no complaints. Soft, beige, the length of the sides is enough to tuck under the bottom. I would like a rougher version (the old one was)
Well, cases with elastic bands at the corners are not covers at all, as for me. This is true for those inclined to masochism.

And further. You completely ruled out springless? Many people like it. Magniflex is well-known, people have been using latex plates for decades and are not going to change. But at the same time, we see such a picture on today's new mattress of another brand at a price one and a half times more expensive than my Orleans.
How Do I Pick a Good Bed Mattress?
The question "why would it all burst so terribly?" remained open.
Anna1957
Quote: Bijou
This mattress has the weakest place for me - I don't really like the cover itself. I don’t know why. On the other, Strong, it is much nicer. And here is such a synthetic-synthetics ...
Yes, for me this is a serious disadvantage. And this case cannot be exchanged for a natural one directly from them? (I just didn't deal with mattresses - maybe I'm asking stupid questions)
I haven’t looked at the springless ones yet and remember Thailand with anguish - I’ve been to this factory so many times and I could have bought a latex mattress there, but then there was no apartment and bed And now it’s expensive and scary to fly there



Added Monday 25 Jul 2016 00:43

Thanks for the guarantee, although I didn't think about buying this case. But you can have fun by checking with the seller.


Added Monday 25 Jul 2016 00:48 AM

The basis is this.
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It seems specifically for the box.

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