Tanyusha
Ingushechka, it means that the tool cost you 408 rubles. After all, I buy in the store because it’s next to work, and I just don’t have time to go somewhere to pick it up.
14anna08
have you tried it already? sorry if I missed it.
Ingushechka
Quote: 14anna08

have you tried it already? sorry if I missed it.
Yes, I literally appreciated it today). Before that, I only washed with Finish powder. Of the obvious advantages - the absence of a sharp smell of chemistry, after opening the dishwasher, and the consumption is less than the powder. Today I almost completely loaded my PMM (I have a Bosch for 10 sets), and poured 10 grams. gel. Everything was laundered on the 45-65 program. I was especially interested in the result of the pan after boiling milk - washed it! Now I want to put the pot today after boiling the broth. The finish did not wash clean for me, always the rim of the boiled broth remained, I had to wash it manually later. Let's see if the gel can handle this? Unsubscribe later
Grypana
Quote: giraffe

The salt did not stick together, but pouring it in, in comparison with the previous ones, is somehow not a fountain, you pour it in, but it dissolves and dissolves, and the water comes out. I thought the whole pack would go into the tank.

In the instructions for my PMM it was written - first pour salt, and then add water. Here is all the salt, all 1.5 kg of Somat, and they entered, and then I poured some water there. I think it makes more sense.

Giraffe
Well, this is when you do everything for the first time, and I already have some kind of water in the tank. I fell asleep a little more than half of the pack, when the light comes on I will fill up the rest
Ingushechka
All! All pots are tested All washed with gel So my verdict - like it!
Aunt Besya
Where is the gel poured into? In the powder compartment?
Ingushechka
Yes, I poured there. Maybe, of course, some cars have specials. compartment for liquid detergent, but in mine it is one - for everything
Grypana
My PMM has 2 compartments for powder or gel. One is for preliminaries. washing, the second for the main cycle. I just thought, why did the Somat gel have holes on bottle 2 - probably so that it could be poured into these compartments at the same time? And approximately how much gel should be poured for one main cycle?
Ingushechka
For 9-10 sets of dishes, I pour 10 ml. There is a dispenser on the lid.
Lariskin
Girls who have ELECTROLUX machines, please help a novice dishwasher)))) Please tell me (or send me to the address where to read) what is the approximate volume of the rinse aid container? I either poured too much of it, or I have problems in the dispenser, or ..: lol: I poured it in the wrong place (I joke, of course, there, up to the MAX mark) But after the wash cycle - all the bottom is in the peeen. Rinse aid FINISH, and powder. And the dispenser is at "1". Our water is very soft, salt is not needed) THIS IS BLIIIN!
Creamy
Don't worry, everything is fine with you! After some washing programs, this happens to many PMMs. Obviously, therefore, the manufacturer recommends opening the PMM no earlier than half an hour after the end of the wash. During this time, all foam bubbles are deflated.
Ingushechka
And I have such a question for the happy owners of the PMM - did anyone really measure the water consumption for one wash? Yesterday I decided to check (after I filled out receipts for payment of water). The instructions say 9 liters for one wash cycle (though without specifying which one). So, yesterday I loaded the car, set the eco mode to 50 degrees and half load. In the end, it took 17 !! liters of water. None of the household did not use water at that time, everyone was already asleep). From this I conclude that PMM does not save water for sure))).
And how with whom?
Giraffe
Even with a full load on the eco-program, it does not take more than 10 liters.
Ingushechka
So I have a special one)) I'm certainly shocked by such numbers, to be honest. And what kind of PMM do you have, Giraffe?
Lisss's
girls, I had an old cupronickel spoon very beautiful, I always washed it in PMM. Soap Domolom - everything was ok, it did not darken. but I bought Finish (just for the sake of the container, the old one broke) and it darkened ... sorry ...
Oira
Quote: Lisss's

girls, I had an old cupronickel spoon very beautiful, I always washed it in PMM. Soap Domolom - everything was ok, it did not darken. but I bought Finish (just for the sake of the container, the old one broke) and it turned dark ... sorry ...
Soda is rubbed off, but for a long time, in general cupronickel often darkens from other means.
Oira
Quote: Ingushechka

So I have a special one)) I'm certainly shocked by such numbers, to be honest. And what kind of PMM do you have, Giraffe?
I am certainly not a giraffe, but it takes me 9-11 liters depending on the PM mode "bosch"
You have very large numbers, measured in several cars (saved with girlfriends)
julifera
Quote: Ingushechka

In the end, it took 17 !! liters of water. From this I conclude that PMM does not save water for sure))).
And how with whom?

I didn’t measure it, I’ll have to try it, but even if 17 liters were consumed, then if this entire load was washed by hand, it would take more than 17 - definitely. So in any way savings.
Ingushechka
Of course, I will experiment one more time (otherwise it’s somehow offensive - everyone is normal, but I don’t), but I really started to drain more water than I washed with my hands before, I see it on the counter
Tanyusha
Ingushechka, can you have a problem with the meter?
Jefry
Quote: Ingushechka

Of course, I will experiment one more time (otherwise it’s somehow offensive - everyone is normal, but I don’t have), but I really started to drain more water than I washed with my hands before, I see it on the counter
And don't the cranks flow anywhere? Or a toilet tank? The machine draws about three liters of water at a time. Usually she does this three times, on the longest programs - four. Where did the five liters of water go?
Yes, and wash so many dishes with your hands - we have three times more water going down the drain. And the water is heated to me by a boiler, which at the same time "eats" three times more of much more expensive electricity. About the cost of the preserved nerve cells from "bliiiin, another frying pan !!!" I am silent at all.
Giraffe
Quote: Ingushechka

So I have a special one)) I'm certainly shocked by such numbers, to be honest. And what kind of PMM do you have, Giraffe?

I have Hotpoint Ariston LSF 723
Giraffe
Quote: Jefry

About the cost of the preserved nerve cells from "bliiiin, another frying pan !!!" I am silent at all.

This is yes! And also, this is free time for your loved ones. Somehow on New Year's Eve, they asked to make a decoration for the region. The traffic police, so during the time the PMM was washing the dishes, I was earning money.
Ingushechka
Quote: Jefry

And don't the cranks flow anywhere? Or a toilet tank? The machine draws up about three liters of water at a time. Usually she does this three times, on the longest programs - four. Where did the five liters of water go?
Yes, and wash so many dishes with your hands - we have three times more water going down the drain. And the water is heated to me by the boiler, which at the same time "eats" three times more of much more expensive electricity. About the cost of the preserved nerve cells from "bliiiin, another frying pan !!!" I am silent at all.

No, nothing flows anywhere - we made a major overhaul in the kitchen and bathroom two months ago. So leaks are excluded. And about the "preserved nerve cells" - I absolutely agree
Creamy
Counters are often buggy. At our city forum, some meticulous tests were carried out. We collected ten 3-liter cans, that is, 30 liters, and the meter showed 47 liters. After that, many on the forum began to check their counters, and almost every third counter showed more than the actual one, and for some by 30-40%. PMM will not take more than it should be.
Sens
Quote: Creamy

Counters are often buggy. At our city forum, some meticulous tests were carried out. We collected ten 3-liter cans, that is, 30 liters, and the meter showed 47 liters. After that, many on the forum began to check their counters, and almost every third counter showed more than the actual one, and for some by 30-40%. PMM will not take more than it should be.

and what counter did you end up with? recommend!
Creamy
I did not delve into the question of which models and types of meters are "honest", since I do not have meters and I pay the tariff.And I'm not going to put them, if only under the gun (: secret: I have a large aquarium and in the winter garden Benjamin palms and ficuses 2 m 60 cm high, so I justify my tariff. that's what it will do... I don’t believe I’ll get savings. And I will twitch with the counter) I know that there is a site for plumbers, there probably this issue has been studied.
Rina
I bought a new powder for PMM. Usually I use Domol, it suits me perfectly. But then I fell for "environmental friendliness, safety and high efficiency." In general, I bought Sodasan
Choosing a dishwasher

I have been using it for a week now and I spit further than I see. The thinnest coating of fat remains on the dishes, which has to be washed by hand.
Taia
Quote: Creamy

I did not delve into the question of which models and types of meters are "honest", since I do not have meters and I pay the tariff. And I'm not going to put them, if only under the gun (: secret: I have a large aquarium and in the winter garden Benjamin palms and ficuses 2 m 60 cm high, so I justify my tariff. that's what it will do... I don’t believe I’ll get savings. And I will twitch with the counter) I know that there is a site for plumbers, there probably this issue has been studied.


You just don't know yet how to twist your hands with the installation of a water meter. 1 common water meter is installed on the house in the basement, and then the number of cubes used is divided by the number of residents registered in this house. And it turns out that you pay for those whose taps are flowing, where the pipes are flowing, whose tenants are not registered live in a camp, and so on. My son, who lives alone in his 1-room apartment, does not run any household at all, pays for water 2 times more than me, living alone with my husband, we have installed meters. And I use a lot of water because I cook a lot, wash, clean and so on. and I don't know how to save water at all.
And when one common water meter is installed in the house, I think the neighbors will hurry up: who, why, and how, and in what quantities.
Creamy
So far, we have just the opposite, people who have meters pay extra for the difference between their readings and the total brownie in proportion to the number of tenants who have meters in their apartment. The city forum is constantly on the hot topic "How to get rid of the counter?" It's really a shame to pay more than the counters show. The daughter has counters, the counters show that the tariff is twice too high, but taking into account the fact that almost the same amount is added to the meter readings, the savings lose their meaning. So the phrase "That's what it will do"relevant if you don't have to worry about every drop you spill.
Kobeika
Quote: Rina

I bought a new powder for PMM. Usually I use Domol, it suits me perfectly. But then I fell for "environmental friendliness, safety and high efficiency." In general, I bought Sodasan
I have been using it for a week now and I spit further than I see. The thinnest bloom of fat remains on the dishes, which has to be washed by hand.

The same story, only after another two weeks of use, a white coating began to appear on the dishes, which was washed with difficulty More than half of the package remained, but I switched to Domol gel
Rina
from there .. when I put salt into the car, I must run it idle at full speed. Otherwise, such a raid will be the first couple of times. And with this sodasan, too, at first I thought it was because of the salt. But this plaque formed on the dishes if the dishes were not very greasy. And if the dishes were from under something noticeably greasy, then a thin layer of fat would cover all the “washed” dishes put in the machine.
Rita
Yes, uzhzhzh ... Not all ecological means, unfortunately, are good. I was also "lucky" to buy a bad one.
Aunt Besya
I just bought this for trial .. though I have not experienced it yet
Dishwasher Powder LION Crystal Charm contains an active ingredient that removes limescale and food traces from the surface of dishes. The dishes shine like new!

Suitable for washing aluminum dishes and utensils.
Effective in any dishwasher washing mode.
Removes unpleasant odors and stubborn dirt from the inside of the dishwasher, leaving a pleasant citrus scent.

Choosing a dishwasher
Ingushechka
Aunt Basya, if it's not a secret, where did you buy such a powder and at what price? I use PMM gel from this company, but I would also like to try the powder.
mowgli
thanks for the tip, are you still using this company? how much is this tool enough?
Aunt Besya
Yes, I just received a package the other day, I haven't had time to try anything yet. I took on a sample a couple of washing gels, a couple of cleaning products in the kitchen, a couple for cleaning the bathroom, here's a powder and a melamine sponge for the dishwasher. I haven’t had such a sponge before, so I tried it today. And the rest is waiting in the wings. It's just that there are already launched products from other manufacturers ..
They send by cash on delivery, but with the initial order, a prepayment of 500 rubles is simple, and then they send it that way. Cake praised a lot of products ..
Lenny
Yes, eco products are all weak. Sodosan tablets do the job better, but still not ice.
Tanyusha
Aunt Basia, why didn't you take the dishwasher gel for the sample?
Aunt Besya
Tan, you will laugh, I can't figure out where to pour it?
Cvetaal
Aunt Besya, pour the gel in the same place where you pour the powder or put the tablet
Julia V
Hurray, something was brought to our village besides Finish powder. Namely gels Somat and Finish. I bought Somat, tried it yesterday, washed everything well.
Aunt Besya
So I have these wounded places Where the pill is not to be poured at all, there are only holes
Sens
Quote: Aunt Besya

So I have these wounded places Where the pill is not to be poured at all, there are only holes
can you take a picture of how it works?
Aunt Besya
This is for the pill 🔗

And this is for the powder and rinse aid 🔗
Sens
clear. Thank you.
the gel is poured into the powder compartment.
avgusta24
Oh, me and the village, it turns out I have the same Boshik as Aunt Basi, but there was no instruction in Russian for him. Well, I put the pill in the powder compartment and did not know that I was doing something wrong ... But in our PMM, salt and rinse aid can be adjusted? I have everything at the factory settings so far.
Sens
why don't you find instructions for your PMM in Russian on the Internet?
enter the PMM model and the word "instruction" in the search box
avgusta24
They bought the car in February, they were looking for it in the internet, it was not. Other users replied that the model is new, there is no translation of the instructions yet. Surprising as it may seem, the store has a product, but no translation of the instructions. We must try to search again now, maybe it has already appeared.

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